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Why is this event in World of Thedas vol. 1's timeline worded like this...
"A violent uprising?" Really? This makes it seem like it was the mages who escalated things, when it was the templars who attacked their perfectly peaceful meeting!
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why does this look SO bad???? HELP?????
#this is from wotv1 and im fucking wheezing like??? i guess from afar it doesnt look too weird but i zoomed in and it's just like.#very clearly pasted together from the most random of things. with a little guy pointing a sword in the middle fsr???#like. none of this is drawn??? i think??? it's real images just badly pasted over each other and it's SENDING ME???#am i insane???#tbd
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Hey do you remember where you read that the crows act as antiva’s military bc world building wise that doesn’t make a lot of sense but thedas world building is a house of cards I’m going to blow on
A very fair question. I could have sworn it was somewhere in Zevran's dialogue tree but a quick skim didn't provide the confirmation, and you'd think that'd be something worth mentioning when you ask him about the Crows. Next, i checked WoTv1 and found there were i think i got the idea of that
So they aren't really 1:1 a military substitute (esp given how they seem just as likely to kill as they are to kill for royalty), but this implies to me that in the scope of international conflict, they sort of assume that role
#askbox#prohalla#dragon age#last flight has some scenes set in antiva but i genuinely don't remember how much they touch on the antivan military there#which even if they did it was set 400+ years before present day
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ik gauche is an actual french word and weekes probably just thought solas would think it’s funny when they chose that for his alias in tn, but i found this in wotv1, and it’s another interesting layer. in the end, solas is himself a foreigner to orlais and reveals his face to charter, a commoner
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Ameridan mentions in one of his memories that he had a spirit companion. But WoTv1 says that modern Dalish elves avoid interacting with spirits.
I’m wondering if something changed between the time of the Dales independence and current period for the Dalish, or if Ameridan went against common practice.
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Running Commentary: The Masked Empire Ch 13 & 14
TL;DR: Gaspard finds Mihris still alive, and they agree to work together to catch up to Celene's party, with Mihris desiring revenge against Michel. Briala decides Celene isn't to blame for the genocide she committed, If You Really Think About It™. Weekes is a blood quantum supporter, apparently.
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Well folks, we're 5 chapters + an epilogue away from finishing this shit, and I kinda wanna try to burn my way through the rest of it while I have the drive to do so. My goal is to do at least one chapter each night. We'll see how that goes lol.
Anyway, let's get to it...
Celene, Briala, Michel, and Felassan find the nearest eluvian in an ancient elven burial chamber, but decide to get some rest before venturing into it.
Something of note: I wonder if the pools described here are of the same nature as the vir'abelasan? Celene assumes they are bathing tubs, but describes an uneasy feeling about them: "Whether it was the runes etched into the metal or the hard angles and corners, something in the shape of it said that this was not meant for her." It's nothing important though, as the pool is empty. Just a thought.
Meanwhile, Gaspard is on Celene's trail, though he is slowed by the sylvans with the help of his employed apostate, Lienne. Remache is nervous about working with the mage, but Gaspard eases his fears by promising to kill Lienne if necessary.
Eventually they come to the Dalish camp, or rather, what's left of it. All the elves have been killed, save for one: Mihris. Mihris explains what happened to the camp, and also that she made a deal with Imshael to be able to track down Michel, who she wants to kill in revenge for the destruction of her clan.
I think it's interesting that Mihris blames Michel for the death of her clan, and not Imshael. Because she does not see the demon as capable of full sentience, perhaps? It could be interpreted as insight on Dalish perspectives on spirits/demons, if this is what Mihris was taught. Comparing it to what is written about Dalish beliefs in spirits in WoTv1, it does add up.
Don't get me wrong, I think Michel absolutely shares responsibility, because he was the one that freed the demon--just like if someone were to assist in a murder, you'd still hold them accountable for that assistance--but ultimately the deaths were at Imshael's hand.
The next morning, Briala reflects on Celene's mass murder, and has fully accepted that she is to blame more than Celene, because... *checks notes* right, because she wasn't there to stop Celene from doing it.
What had happened at Halamshiral was a still-painful ache, but the elves had rebelled. Celene had done what she had to do. Had Briala been there, she might have been able to turn Celene to a different course, but Briala herself was the one who had left.
Jesus fucking christ, Weekes. Like, I'm all for fucked up relationships if they are fully intentional and acknowledged to be just that, because juicy drama and all... but this does not feel like such a case. Especially when taking the fact that the player can actually put these two back together in DA:I and they are celebrated as a happy couple. And so all it does is gives me the creepy crawlies, reading this.
Anyway. Celene's magic ruby unlocks the eluvian, and they venture forth. Immediately, it's described that for elves, the Crossroads (though it's not called that in this book) feels like a wonderfully magical place that loves their very presence, while humans find it revolting and fatiguing. Felassan explains that this is because the land was made for elves, which Celene... and Michel... aren't.
Excen't Michel IS an elf. At least, just as much an elf as he is human! So basically Weekes just stumbled ass first into a fucking blood quantum argument, considering that elves are a metaphor for Indigenous peoples, in support of the idea that you are somehow less of a person if you are mixed.
ANYWAY. Felassan takes the opportunity of he and Briala being able to travel much faster through the Crossroads to plant the seed that Celene will not honour the deal she made to free the elves. Briala at this point still defends Celene, though. While Felassan and Briala talk, so do Celene and Michel. Michel asks if Briala can truly be trusted to follow Celene's needs.
“This wretched place makes my eyes ache, Majesty, but for her, it is the dream of elven greatness come to life. Do you expect her to come out of this land and put her servant’s mask back on?”
“I do.” Celene spoke with confidence, but she squinted up ahead all the same to where Briala and Felassan walked far ahead. “Bria has helped me play the Game for years, Michel. I doubt that an enchanted path will change that.”
This scene to me is the first sign that Celene does not, in fact, have the heart to keep her promise to Briala, because at the end of the day, because she doesn't think she'll have to. She believes that no matter what, Briala will always be there to serve her.
Discussions come to a halt when the group face walking corpses. Michel takes the lead, and is able to defeat them, but by the time he does so, Gaspard's party has caught up to them. A fight ensues, but with all the magical casting from Mihris and Felassan, more walking corpses awake.
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lore wise do you think it makes sense for a human family (the Amells) to have naturally silvery white hair? my canon Warden is an Amell and i gave her the white hair and purple eyes (yes after the Targaryens/Valaryians but she's not like Dany or anything i just love the look for magical characters lol). The purple eyes i can explain because magic can appear in the form of changing eye color but in the Dragon Age series (games, i haven't read the books or comics) i don't think we see any human characters with white hair that aren't elderly (unless you count Celene which i've always thought she was more blonde). i thought of making the Amells secretly elf-blooded to explain it but i'm not really comfortable using mixed-race people just to justify a plot point in my own fanon. and i know it's a fantasy game so it doesn't have to "make sense" but i'm talking in the DA lore
Re: Hair - My mother's hair was naturally so blonde it was white and people used to assume she bleached it, (before it permanently darkened after pregnancy). People can have white hair IRL.
Re: Eyes - Canonically speaking, magic manifestation can change a character's eye colour, (per WoTv1) and there are characters who canonically have violet eyes (i.e. Felassan in The Masked Empire).
Re: Both - I mean, it's your character and at the end of the day it's a magical fantasy where you can imagine your character looking however you want, you know?
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Do you know how the dalish feel about people bonded with spirits (like Anders or Wynne)
Typically Dalish do not trust spirits, per WoTv1.
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Orzammar: We can’t just disregard the caste system, or society will collapse!
Kal-Sharok:
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Forward of World of Thedas vol 1 by David Gaider, on the birth of Dragon Age.
#dragon age#wotv1#yes the chantry is just fantasy christianity#no fans have not made that up#as if it wasn't obvious anyway lol???
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so we know warden-commander is the highest rank a grey warden can have but what are some ranks below that?
Warden-Commander is not actually the highest rank; that would be the First Warden, stationed in Weisshaupt. World of Thedas vol 1 has a section for the Grey Warden hierarchy (pg 152):
1. First WardenThe official head of the Order lives at Weisshaupt. Since the extinction of griffons, communication has deteriorated between the First Warden and other Wardens scattered across Thedas. Because of this, the First Warden is now seen as more of a political leader or even a figurehead. Military command tends to fall to the ranking Warden-Commander in any given region.
2. High ConstableUntil the loss of the griffons, the High Constable was the Wardens’ aerial commander and second in command to the First Warden. In recent years, the High Constable has become the public face of Warden leadership in Weisshaupt, leading recruitment in the Anderfels and acting as ambassador to the nation’s high king.
3. Chamberlain of the GreyThe senior archivist of the Warden Order at Weisshaupt, the Chamberlain of the Grey is also responsible for maintaining correspondence among the Warden-Commanders at the behest of the First Warden. The Chamberlain technically outranks all Warden Commanders, though they would likely be lost leading an army.
4. Warden-CommanderFormally called Commander of the Grey, a Warden-Commander is the leader of the Order in any one region of Thedas. Diminishing lines of communication to Weisshaupt means most Warden-Commanders answer to no one and run their branch of the Order as they see fit. They must still send word of their progress to the Chamberlain at Weisshaupt annually. The First Warden maintains the right to summon any or all Warden-Commanders to Weisshaupt when necessary.
5. Warden-ConstableFormally called Constable of the Grey, the Warden-Constable is the second in command under a Warden-Commander. A constable will act as field commander and take charge when the Warden-Commander is called away for political or recruiting responsibilities.
6. Senior WardenThis is a formal title given to veteran Wardens deserving of special privilege. In some areas, such as Orlais, this title is known as Warden-Lieutenant. A Senior Warden may command a group of Wardens or embark on missions of particular importance. If a Warden-Constable is in command, they will likely take a Senior Warden as a second.
7. WardenThe rank-and-file Warden stake this simple title, though on paper they are called Warden-Ensigns. Members of the Order must undergo the Joining to become a true Warden.
8. Warden-RecruitAny person accepted into the Wardens who has not yet taken the Joining is officially considered a Warden-Recruit. They are given a rank for committing to the Order, not easy considering it means giving up your family and country for a life of service fighting monsters. Many recruits do not survive the Joining, and their names are collected at the archives in Weisshaupt in honour of their sacrifice.
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Remember when I mentioned getting some higher resolution images from WoTv1? Well uh does someone wanna tell me what the FUCK these things are and what they have to do with Andraste?
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“Mages aren’t born with the ability to use magic. The talent usually surfaces around puberty, and never reveals itself in quite the same way. Signs may be as subtle as spontaneously changing eye colour or extreme as accidentally starting a fire.”
Sharing this little tidbit because you can give your mage fantasy eye colours and it’s entirely canon, friends. Felassan does not have to be alone with his magic-y purple eyes, or Morrigan with her yellow.
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Kirkwall alienage from World of Thedas Vol 1
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Is it ever said where humans actually came from? I looked it up online, but nothing told me anything. Like humans are pretty plain and boring to play in The dad, but I'm legit curious as hell.
I’d be happy to try and explain! Human history is more interesting than you may think, (but I will agree that they’re the least appealing playable race to me, too.)
So, just like our world, there is the human race, and then within the human race are different racial/ethnic backgrounds. To quote from WoTv1 (which is where all this is from):
“The differences between the races of Thedas go far deeper than the point of elven ears or the squat stature of the dwarves. What’s more, distinct, sometimes opposing cultures thrive within each race’s ranks, only adding to political and religious friction. The only thing all people in Thedas seem to have in common is the continent they call home.”
Now, the human race is just as foreign to Thedas as the Qunari; the only difference is they arrived a long time ago.
The first people to arrive in Thedas were the Neromenians from the North, (the same as the Qunari). And as you know, when the humans arrived there was lots of tension between them and the elves (and dwarves underground) already living there, until eventually they slaughtered and enslaved them all… Where have I heard that before… Hmm… Anyway, the Neromenians were split up into Qarinus, Tevinter, and Barindur people, which is also where the place names we know come from. Tevinter ended up swallowing Qarinus, and wiping Barindur off the map, but people native to the lands can still trace their ancestry back to the first tribes/settlements.
Coming from the South we have the Alamarri, the people from what is now Ferelden. As to why they came, legend claims they were fleeing a “shadow goddess.” Like the Neromenians, there are various Alamarri pepoles; the Clayne, Chasind, and Avvar people. It was the Clayne who formed what we know as Ferelden, but the Chasind and the Avvar said, “Um thanks but no thanks,” and refused to join the formation of the country. Both tribes to this day live in isolated communities, the Avvar settling in the mountains, and the Chasind in the Korcari Wilds. And while the Clayne have evolved and dispersed greatly as a culture, the Chasind and Avvar hold onto a lot of their ancient customs and beliefs.
What is now Orlais was originally settled by the Ciriane, but it’s unclear where they came from. (Or any of the rest of the mentioned tribes.) The Ciriane have changed as a people so much that WoTv1 says the ancient cultures have basically disappeared. The only thing that’s stayed the same is their antagonistic relationship with the Alamarri. (Orlais vs Ferelden.)
Nevarra was home to two major tribes; the Inghirsh and the Planasene. Unfortunately the Inghirsh were almost completely wiped out by the Neromenians, to the point of “wandering tribes of no more than ten people.” Survivors mixed in with the Ciriane and Planasene peoples. The Planasene are who most modern Nevarrans claim ancestry from.
The Anderfels was of course originally part of Tevinter, and as such many people there can claim the same Neromenian roots. But not all. The Anderfels was first home to the Orth people. It’s unclear where the Orth came from, or really much about them at all… Kind of disappointing, considering from what we do know they sound pretty cool. Like the Avvar and Chasind in the South, many Orth people still live and practice their traditional ways in The Wandering Hills. There’s also the Voshai, humans led by dwarves who came from across the Volca Sea, trading spices for lyirum. The traders mysteriously disappeared for a while, and returned permanently after a “massive cataclysm” in their homeland.
The people native to Rivain have only ever been referred to as Rivaini, which leads me to believe that is the name for their ancestry.
Antiva is unfortunately a mystery.
So, to apply some ancestry to a few notable characters…
Dorian → likely Qarinus
Isabela → Rivaini
Alistair → Clayne (his ancestor is Calenhad nonetheless)
Cassandra → likely Planasene
Leliana → likely Ciriane
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Ferelden art, World of Thedas Vol 1 & 2
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