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Babe??? you've never has the delight of figuring out the wolf-goat-cabbage transportation???? May I please be the one to share the fun with you?

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Riddle:

A peasant (or literally any type of Some Guy(gn)) has to cross the river in a boat with their 3 possessions: an wolf, an goat, and a head of cabbage. The problem is, the peasant is the only one who can row the boat, the boat only fits one other object or creature, so the peasant only can row one of the possessions over at a time. Another thing is, the wolf cannot be left alone with the goat lest one eats the other, and for the same reason the goat cannot be left alone on a shore with the cabbage.

In what order, in least possible moves, should the transfer be done from one shore to another? 🤨

I'm afraid to disappoint you when I reveal that I'm shit at riddles xD and the only solution I can think of is, like, getting the goat across first, then putting the wolf in the boat, and having the guy stick the cabbage between his knees or something. Because cabbages aren't that big, surely!

But I also feel like that's cheating, or the wrong solution, so I'd love to know the actual answer

parts: 1, 2, 3, ...

mit mystery hunt 2024 writeup 3: text adventure

so the puzzles in the rest of the earlygame weren't bad, but the next thing that i remember being a really strong highlight was past them. our team unlocked the midgame on saturday afternoon, and after solving a handful of puzzles from it, the Hell, Missouri round unlocked. tons of people wrote about this round being a standout for them and now it's my turn!

i'll discuss the puzzle text adventure from that round in particular. you're not likely to solve this puzzle without understanding the round gimmick, so although the task would be gargantuan, you could try it yourself here: https://mythstoryhunt.world/puzzles/text-adventure (if you get a 404, click "Public Access" and then come back and try this link again).

spoilers for the entire hell, missouri round follow.

so basically, the puzzle is a text adventure containing six classic riddle-type puzzles, but changed in a way that makes them impossible, including:

The river crossing puzzle with the wolf/goat/cabbage but there's an extra vegetable

The 5-ring tower of hanoi puzzle but you only have 20 moves

The bridge crossing puzzle with four people who walk at different speeds and one flashlight, but you get 1 less minute

The fuse burning puzzle but you have to measure 85 seconds instead of 45

so that's wild. it wasn't immediately obvious to us what to do...

...until we're looking at this other puzzle in the round called "chemistry", and we extract "STEAL SCEPTER" from it.

one of the subpuzzles does have a scepter in it. it has some word manipulation spells with stupid names like "ieditedit" which are supposed to be used on the word MUU written on a scroll (it's a thing don't ask). yeah, turns out you can steal it. yoink

so that ieditedit spell takes a word and doubles it minus its first letter, eg "scepter" becomes "sceptercepter", "gödel" becomes "gödelödel", and,

it turns out you can use this on a box labeled "alfa" in one of the subpuzzles to create alfalfa, which is a third vegetable you can bring into the bridge crossing puzzle. but crucially, the alfalfa doesn't need to make it out alive, so you can give it to the goat and ensure it doesn't eat the other two vegetables. easy solve from there!

the things we had to do for the rest of the subpuzzles were also cool and funny, although they were on slightly different lines:

to solve the tower of hanoi puzzle, you have to find more poles to put the discs on. it turns out that chopin and copernicus count as poles (they're polish) and you can have them hold discs for you. incredible gag honestly

the bridge puzzle and the fuse puzzle cheese each other: the fuses serve as extra light sources for the bridge crossing, and crossing the bridge serves as an extra timing mechanism to get 85 seconds.

that scepter puzzle? you have to cast ieditedit over and over and crash the game lmao right ok

but the best moment was definitely the path to the river crossing puzzle. finding that sequence was an amazing moment of gradual discovery for me, having to combine so many elements from so many places. pieces like that are the reason this round was so cool in general.

okay, so i should mention the round in general. the way it worked is that every pair of puzzles had a unique answer, found by bringing some info from one puzzle into another puzzle to extract it. so answers from this round filled the upper half of a matrix:

so it was super interesting! my overarching thoughts on this round in no particular order are:

the connectedness of everything incentivized going for 100%, since we had to touch all of the puzzles in order to solve any one puzzle. this we eventually did, which was very gratifying

on the other hand, it took us a very long time to fully solve any one puzzle - we had 5/6 on multiple puzzles for quite a while

i liked that it was asymmetric - one puzzle (matchmaker) was always the supplier of the info, another puzzle (blanks) was always the receiver of the info, and others were somewhere in between, and i found the variety of that very interesting

the mechanic of the meta was super understandable also, i managed to zero in on the idea pretty quickly without getting stuck, which made for a smooth experience

it wasn't all smooth though - there was stuff on the chemistry puzzle that no one on the team could figure out because this topic tends to be pretty difficult to research. we were stuck trying to find the word CARBONYL for a very long time

it seemed like on the most competitive teams, the unlock timing of this round would have landed directly in my sleeping hours. as such, i'm really happy that i hunted on a slower team so that i had a chance to dig deep into this round. got the most out of it

as i understand, this round was the brainchild of one primary author (devjoe!), so mad props to them for making such a well-knit collection of super neat ideas. it made for a really good mitmh midgame, about as good as i could ask for.

I love riddles like the Cabbage-Goat-Wolf problem or the 5L & 3L bucket problem because they seem kinda hard at first, but then you think about it and realize for every step there's only one operation that mutates the state w/o regressing it. Then you get to feel smart for solving it, even though you didn't actually have do any real problem-solving.

that's interesting. I've always known that riddle as, a wolf, a goat and the cabbages

two things : 1) i know the wolf goat cabbage riddle!! god hes adorable

2) dude, its gotham. he said hes coming back, he will be.

Feels like there should be SPN versions of the "wolf, goat and cabbage" river crossing riddles.

Here’s a riddle: A farmer goes to market and buys a wolf, a sheep and a cabbage. On his way home, he has to cross a river by boat from one side to the other. The boat can carry only the farmer and one other thing – the wolf, the goat or the cabbage, so the farmer will need to make a few trips to boat all three over to the other side. During the boating, he will always have to leave two things on their own on the banks of the river. For obvious reasons, the wolf cannot be left alone with the goat – he will devour it. The goat cannot be left with the cabbage, because she will eat it. How then, can the farmer transfer all three to the other side of the river, leaving them all intact?

You have no idea how well the last two lines describe this blog.

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“... So, you can’t leave the goat and the cabbage alone or the goat will eat the cabbage-” Ed rambled, smiling despite the ever growing suspicion in the pit of his stomach that the smirking, glance-sharing gaggle of Men in Blue didn’t really want to hear his riddle at all, and were simply seeing if they could get him to recite it again. He cleared his throat, pushing his glasses up his nose, instinct re-assessing the situation, even as he kept talking. “But if you leave the goat alone with the wolf, it’ll eat the goat-” He knew he was fairly tall, but two out of three of these goons with badges were just as tall and twice as wide. “But you can only take one thing across the river at a time-”

“How small is this boat?” Officer Jenkins smirked and the others all laughed. 

It was Dougherty who’s expression said this wasn’t about puzzling anecdotes. “See? This is why he’s the Riddle Man, right?”

Ed waited several heartbeats, shifting slightly toward the door toward the safety of his lab, “Well, I suppose if you give up...”

“No, no, I want to figure it out,” Dougherty tapped the wall. “But while I’m mulling, there’s something else I’ve been puzzled over- why, even after I told you to leave her alone, you keep bothering poor Kristen.”

Ed opened his mouth and closed it again, “I didn’t think I was bothering-”

A fist landed hard with a dull, startling thud against the wall beside him. “I’ll let you work that one out, Riddle Man. Put that one together.”

“P-put what together? I m-mean, obviously you’re threatening me, but I ah- um. You need to actually state specifics, I mean, we all have jobs to do, which- uh- means that sometimes-”

“Listen, Buddy,” The tone of his voice was cheery, friendly, oddly enough, “I don’t care who you get to middle man, I don’t want to see you setting foot in that Annex, you got me?”

I'm only 65% of the way through book 2, but I remember that riddle from school. If I remember correctly the answer is that since the wolf & goat can both swim, you tie them behind the boat, take the cabbage in the boat with you, and kind of drag them along behind you. Wolf is too busy swimming to eat the goat, goat can't get at the cabbage while it's swimming, all of you arrive on the other shore safely.

Actually it’s an iterative process. You take the rabbit over, leave it. Come back for the cabbage, swap with the rabbit. Swap the rabbit and the wolf, take the wolf and deposit him beside the cabbage, go back for the rabbit.

River Crossing IQ Logic Puzzles & Fun Brain Games

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In this fun and challenging game, you will find a complete collection of all known river crossing logic problems, plus some completely new riddles that you will not find anywhere else. If you want brain teasers to improve your IQ while you have fun, you’ve come to the right place. Chances are that you’ve heard about the ancient river crossing riddles, but do you know them all? You may have heard about the farmer who must take a wolf, a goat, and some cabbage across a river, or a version featuring a fox, a goose, and a bag of beans. Maybe you know the problem of the three missionaries and three cannibals, or the “jealous husbands” variation. Those are the classic river crossing puzzles. They are popular and well known, and they are all included in this game, along with many more new levels involving chess pieces, a farmer with cows and special levels designed only for geniuses. River crossing problems date back to at least the ninth century, may be before the chess was invented, with the earliest known examples occurring in the Latin manuscript Propositiones ad Acuendos Juvenes (“Problems to Sharpen the Young”). River crossing puzzles and their many variants represent ways of dressing up relatively straightforward mathematical problems. They invite attempts at a solution that range from trial and error to extensive mathematical analysis. These puzzles are frequently used in job interviews. They are also taught to children in schools along with chess to boost their IQs and improve their critical thinking, mathematical problem-solving, and strategy development. Your goal in every level is to move all of the characters across the river while observing certain rules and restrictions. Once you have completed a level, you will receive one star for level completion. You can obtain an additional star if you finish the level in the minimum number of moves, and another if you finish the level in a set time that varies from level to level. Try your best, work as quickly as you can, and keep your number of moves low to earn more stars. Your total number of stars will help you access more advanced levels. If you like playing chess and solving logic puzzles, then you are all set for new challenges. But unlike chess, you can play this game alone and have a lot of fun. Download the game now and unlock your brain’s abilities! Improvements and Bug Fixes

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You know what would be funny... a goat enemy that dropped cabbages.

Or a wolf enemy but we got a lot of those.

Like that old riddle about how to get a wolf, a cabbage, and a goat across a river

the cabbage/goat/wolf riddle but its your mutuals