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freetobeeyouandme · 1 year

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A My Little Pony Hypothesis

Wrinkle in Time posting reminding me I never actually posted my own My Little Pony hypothesis because I meant to post it as part of a larger analysis of dragons in ST and then never did. lol. Anyway, I think the thing they're referencing with WiT may be one of the kids in that book letting himself be caught by the hivemind to locate their father and then getting left behind during the rescue mission, forcing the protagonist to come back and save him with the power of love. And the MLP references in the show actually also suggest (and therefore support) this version of events.

So in the MLP episode "Escape from Midnight Castle" the ponies are attacked by the evil centaur Tirek who also kidnaps four ponies to turn them into dragons to pull his chariot so he can subjugate the whole world with his Rainbow of Darkness. His plans are stalled because one of the kidnapped ponies is too small and he can't turn it. Meanwhile the protagonist ponies go to find the Rainbow of Light and then go to Tirek's castle to free their friends. While infiltrating the castle Applejack is captured and turned into a dragon. The ponies manage to stop Tirek last minute by overtaking the Rainbow of Darkness with the Rainbow of Light, which also turns everyone back into what they were. And all the ponies lived happily ever after.

So what's that got to do with Stranger Things? Well, Dustin explicity mentions the episode in S3 when he’s arguing with Erica about her status as a nerd, because Erica is into MLP and since that has nerdy stuff like castles and dragons she is a nerd. Erica then embraces that identity, gets into DnD, and names her character after Applejack. Who then ends up defeating Vecna in the S4 game...which made me wonder whether the MLP reference is actually important foreshadowing -- and who then is represented by Applejack. Personally I think Will is most likely, because while “getting turned into a dragon” does fit Max in S4 I think Max is actually the too small pony from the initial four that get kidnapped: Vecna’s first attempt to kill her didn’t work and even the second one isn’t quite complete, he just separated her consciousness from her body by the looks of it.

This is also why I think it’ll be Will. At the end of S4 we see El trying to find Max to get her to wake up, but she can’t find her. That’s not gonna change by her trying harder in S5, so I think if they want to go find Max they need to go into Vecna/The Mindflayer’s head and find her there (and i think that may be one of the priorities in the first half of S5 because of the heavy Star Wars parallels we got elsewhere). And the only person who was part of it before is Will, so I think she’ll end up piggybacking in through his mind. Plus that would let Will’s promise of “fix it together” from 4.01 come true. It also resembles the way the ponies infiltrate the castle in MLP AND Charles Wallace letting IT control him so he can find his father. In both WiT and MLP this rescue mission doesn’t quite go the way it was intended. Applejack gets kidnapped and turned into a dragon and Charles Wallace is left behind as part of the hivemind while the other kids get out with their father. Both of them are later saved by their friends, Charles Wallace explicitly with love, and Applejack with a very thin metaphor for it.

These themes are obviously also present in Stranger Things and people have already pointed out this similarity (and this potential plot) in relation to WiT, but I think it’s interesting to note that the DnD game which clearly foreshadows the events of S5 also references a piece of media that also has this type of plot. I also think the whole love vs. hate/anger thematic also points to Will because the topic of (romantic) love is important for his character arc in a way that it isn’t for others. El also wants love but her’s is familial and tbh with the return of Hopper I think her S5 arc will be taking the love she knows she has and turning it on Vecna. Will on the other hand is wanting, and I think vulnerable on that level -- but also a formidable foe once he realizes he can have everything he wants. Which is also a great way of involving their personal arcs and the love triangle in the supernatural plot.

Tl, dR: I think the theory that the writers posting about WiT means Will is gonna help El find Max and then get stuck in the hivemind, needing to be rescued with (Mike’s) love are very likely because the show references an episode of MLP multiple times, including in the foreshadowing of the DnD game, in which that exact plot also happens. And I’m very excited about it because I have been turning this idea over in my head for weeks now and I love it.

#Stranger Things #Stranger Things Theories #ST theories #ST theory #Stranger Things theory #byler #<- because target audience #will byers

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katy-kt-katie · 1 year

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Part of a Collection of one-shot fics focused on the S5 Episode, "The End"

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This one-shot occurs at 41 minutes in episode, when Scully is finishing a phone call with Skinner while at Mulder's apartment.

Scully hung up the phone and turned to see a weary Mulder laying on his couch.

“Any news on Diana?” he mumbled.

Scully sighed, “They have her on maximum pressers, but she’s barely maintaining her pressure.”

“What did Skinner have to say?” Mulder asked, too exhausted to even open his eyes.

“There are talks going on right now about reassignment.”

Mulder turned and looked at Scully, “For who?”

“Both of us,” she peered back sadly. Their eyes locked onto one another's, exchanging a multitude of emotions in just a look; annoyance and frustration, care and concern.

Scully looked away, “These talks included instructions from the Justice Department to close down the X Files.”

He rolled his eyes and looked away, “This was all strategized, every move. I just couldn’t see it. It was all of a plan.”

“Mulder, whatever you may believe,” she sighed, “This time, they may have won.”

He set his jaw, appearing speechless.

She left her chair to come sit by him on the floor in front of the couch, tears in her eyes. She grabbed his hand and squeezed.

“Scully, come here,” Mulder raised his arm, motioning for her to climb onto the couch with him.

They had taken to holding each other occasionally over the years when cases or events were particularly stressful. The first time was after Scully was confined by Donnie Pfaster. Mulder held her in his arms until she fell asleep that night, then returned to his own motel room.

It happened again, after her sister and his father died. They held each other through tears until they were both too tired to think anymore. Mulder slept on her couch.

When she had cancer, Mulder would visit her late at night, climb in next to her and hold her while she slept. Scully didn’t know how often he came, but she caught him a few times and his presence both emboldened her and made her even more distraught about seemingly impending death.

The comforting never moved past basic physical pressure and touch. It never turned sexual, and it never resulted in them sleeping overnight together. Nonetheless, it seemed to soothe them both tremendously as the darkness continually attempted to overtake them.

Accepting Mulder’s offer, Scully climbed onto the couch and allowed him to spoon her, without hesitation. She sighed, feeling comforted but still concerned.

“What are we going to do?” she asked him.

“I don’t know,” he whispered into her ear, nuzzling his stubble into her neck.

“I’m so sorry about Diana. I know they are doing everything they can to save her,” she hesitated, then continued. “Mulder, how well do you know her?”

“Diana?” he asked.

She nodded, then shifted onto her back so that she could see his face, his arm still draped over her waist and hip.

“She was here when I found the X Files. She has a strong belief and interest in the unexplained.”

He paused, but she could tell he wasn’t finished talking. She looked into his eyes and patiently waited for him to collect his thoughts.

“We were together. It was getting serious; I loved her. Then she was reassigned and barely said goodbye.”

Her eyes shot wide open and she gasped. “Mulder, I had no idea. I am so sorry.” So, Diana is his long-lost love , she thought.

“It’s okay Scully, it was a long time ago,” he sighed and cleared his throat. “But I certainly didn’t expect to see her again and be working with her on a case.”

“I’m praying for her,” she smiled at him and stroked his bicep, reassuring him.

“Mulder, I have to admit something,” she closed her eyes trying to find her words.

She opened her eyes to find him patiently waiting for her confession.

“I was at the psychiatric hospital yesterday. I came up to tell you about Gibson’s scans and I saw you two holding hands. I was confused. I know your personal life isn’t my business. But she showed up and is interested in you and the X Files and I just…I couldn’t figure out where I belonged.”

Mulder nodded at her, she could tell he was listening.

“I sort of panicked. I called you and asked you to meet me at the office,” her eyes shutting again, no longer able to look at him, feeling insecure after her confession.

Scully took a deep breath and continued, “I’m sorry I wasn’t honest with you. I just felt emotional and confused. Like she was trying to take away my partner and my work.”

Mulder nodded again and she felt him squeeze her tighter to his chest. “Scully, I’m sorry you felt that way. Diana is not going to replace you as my partner. The work is better having you as a catalyst to the science and the truth. I will always fight for us to be assigned to the X Files, together.”

Scully smiled affectionately. “Thank you.” She sighed. “You know how important to me our work and our partnership is, don’t you?”

“I think so,” he smiled.

“It’s the most important thing in my life, Mulder.”

He smiled at her, then kissed her forehead.

Physical contact with Mulder always calmed Scully’s nerves. She relaxed, allowing herself to bathe in the feel of his strong arms.

She shifted a bit realizing he probably was wishing it was Diana instead of her. With a romance in his life, things would have to change somewhat. Another woman may not understand how much they’d been through and how close they were as a result; even a fellow agent.

“Mulder, I hope she recovers so that you can have a chance at being together again. I saw the way you looked at her in the hospital. You deserve to be happy.”

Scully turned back to a spooning position, so he didn’t have to watch her process the complicated emotions of dealing with your best friend suddenly being back in a serious relationship.

She felt Mulder's cheek rest against her temple and his mouth just above her ear.

“Scully, I care for Diana,” he whispered and nuzzled in closer, “but I’m here with you.”

“You are here with me,” she whispered back. “Do you want me to take you to the hospital to see her?”

“No Scully. You don’t understand,” he started to slowly stroke her forearm and paused. “I want to be here with you.”

Scully took a deep breath and turned back to him, to see his eyes. Mulder smiled sweetly at her and continued.

“When you saw Diana holding my hand, you said it made you emotional. Can I ask you one question about that and plead with you to be honest?” his hand stroked her jawline once, gently, giving her goosebumps.

Scully stared at him and felt nervous and overwhelmed by his intense sincerity, “Okay,” she replied.

“It is possible you were jealous?” He sighed and she saw him shut his eyes, but continued, “You saw a woman with me, in what appeared to be a romantic situation. Is it at all possible that you didn’t want another woman to be touching me like that? Maybe even that you hoped it was you instead?”

Mulder’s eyes stayed closed as he waited for her to respond.

She closed her eyes and played the situation back in her mind, her feelings when she returned to her car, imagining Mulder and Diana together; how it made her feel.

Scully knew the answer; it was absolute overwhelming jealousy. She knew she had very regular thoughts and feelings about Mulder that were not platonic, but she had become adept over the years at pushing them far away into the corners of her brain, never allowing herself to think too much about it.

She did wish it were her that had a romantic past with him, and a romantic future .

But why was Mulder asking her to be honest about this? Wasn’t it too late? She had suppressed her feelings for too long and now this long-lost love was back in his life. She felt tears fill her eyes.

“Scully, look at me please. Tell me the truth; were you jealous?”

She turned, now facing him and tucked her head into his chest, suddenly embarrassed, “Yes. But Mulder, why are you making me admit this to you when you are interested in her?”

“Scully, I'm not interested in her.”

“You’re not?” she spoke into his chest, still too apprehensive to look at him.

Mulder gently tugged on her chin, forcing her to look at him again, “Scully, I’m interested in you,” he smiled at her. “The fact that you were jealous thinking about me with Diana…are you interested in me too?”

Scully couldn’t find words, but softly nodded and smiled. Mulder gently stroked her jaw again before leaning forward and kissing her. His lips felt like pillows; soft and warm. He pulled back slightly and she found him studying her; checking for her consent.

“Please,” was all Scully managed to get out, in a soft whisper, so he kissed her again, now pushing his tongue into her mouth. She moaned and met Mulder’s tongue with hers.

She pulled away slightly, dragging her teeth over his plump lower lip. Mulder groaned in reply. She felt her arousal taking over and shifted a leg between his trying to relieve a bit of the building pressure.

“God, Scully. There is no one else. There hasn’t been for years. I want you,” Mulder confessed while his lips grazed hers.

Mulder ran his hand down her torso slowly, but the slow pace was becoming problematic as her need was starting to overwhelm her. She pulled her sweater off and removed her bra too. He took off his t-shirt. Mulder held her tightly for a moment and the feel of his hard chest against her naked breasts resulted in fresh arousal in her panties.

Mulder grinned at her before shifting down her body and momentarily resting his face in her cleavage. He sighed and after a second or two, he started to suckle and flick her nipple. God he was good with his mouth. The sensation of his tongue on her created a mirrored sensation in her clit; he might as well have been touching it too the way it was throbbing.

Scully was panting now, heart racing, almost hyperventilating.

“Are you okay, Scully?” he asked, concerned.

“Mulder I…I pushed my feelings for you away for so long, I didn’t realize how strong they were. I’m a bit overwhelmed. I want you so much.”

He smiled broadly and stroked her hair, “We can take it slowly if you want, Scully.”

She giggled and looked at him, her body trembling with anticipation, “No, I want you now, Mulder. I’m just…I never thought,” she sighed. “It’s been a hard day,” her eyes filled with tears again, “but I’m so happy right here, right now.”

Mulder returned his attention to her body, gently flicking one nipple with his tongue while his hand reached for the zipper on the side of her skirt, “May I?”

“Yes,” she grinned. Scully shifted her hips to make it easier for him. He zipped it down, tossed her skirt to the floor and she felt his hand palm her Mons and squeeze it gently.

She panted heavily and removed her pantyhose. He stood to remove his pants and boxers.

“Mulder, oh my God,” she squealed.

“What?” he chuckled.

“You are huge,” Scully whispered, even though no one else was in his apartment.

I made him blush, she thought. He shrugged before crawling back onto the couch behind her, pulling her back into his spoon.

He nuzzled into her neck again affectionately, “Scully, you are so beautiful. I dream about you like this; wanting me to touch you, your body pressed against mine.”

She was overcome with arousal. She could feel him fully stiff behind her. She shifted her leg on top of his to allow him access to her. “Mulder, I want you,” she said, twisting her neck slightly so that her lips could find his for a kiss.

She felt him tilt his hips a bit, and then he entered her.

“Oh my God,” Scully exclaimed. The sensation of him inside of her was astounding; his size resulting in all the nerves inside of her feeling friction simultaneously.

And then there was the effect Mulder was having on the rest of her body. From this position, it felt like he had completely taken her over; his face was back to nuzzling her neck. His hand below her was reaching up to fondle her nipples while his other hand clutched around her body, reaching into her patch of curls. His erection was inside of her as his legs entangled with hers. He was in complete control of her.

“Mmmm…” was all Scully could get out. This wasn’t frenzied or boring like when she’d had sex before… years ago ...he was methodical. He was in control.

His proximity was electric, the friction inside intense and his finger working on her clit felt so good . “Mulder, I’m so close. Please don’t stop.”

“I won’t stop honey,” Mulder whispered into the shell of her ear.

After a few more moments her orgasm was upon her. “Baby, I’m going to come,” she moaned breathily.

Mulder continued touching her in all the right places as her orgasm stretched on seemingly indefinitely. She’d never had an orgasm last this long or feel this intense.

His pace quickened and she realized he was climaxing too, he pushed into her hard, panting into her ear, giving her chills on top of the after effects of her massive orgasm.

She felt his whole body stiffen and then relax as he finished. His head laid back in the crook of her neck and he sighed peacefully.

“My God, Scully, tell me that wasn’t perfect.”

“Mulder…I’m speechless,” she giggled.

He pushed back a few tendrils of hair from her forehead and smiled as he finally pulled out of her. She shifted to her back to look at him.

“Scully, don’t keep your feelings from me anymore, okay? Let me be with you. Let me know what you need.”

“Okay,” Scully said, sighing and smiling in response to the warm emotion on his face.

He squeezed her tightly against him, “I like that you called me baby,” he teased.

“Mulder! I’m so embarrassed…so sorry,” she sighed.

“Not embarrassing. So cute, let me be your baby.”

She smiled, then sighed obviously in thought again. “Mulder, what if we get reassigned? What if they close the X Files?”

He closed his eyes and exhaled.

“I still have you. And I still have myself,” he winked.

She remembered a few years ago, when he'd said something similar when they had been reassigned temporarily. She smiled at him and pecked the tip of his nose.

“We have us, Scully,” he said.

“Us,” she smiled and closed her eyes as he kissed her forehead. She turned back around, reclaiming her spot in his spoon. He pulled down his Navajo blanket to cover them and they fell asleep. Content to rest in the arms of each other and push their worries to tomorrow.

#today in fic #the x files #dana scully #fox mulder #the end x files episode #diana fowley #one shot #first time #first kiss

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lucidpantone · 3 years

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Do you think wtfock will try and find a way to make amends for what little the have done to progress Moyo? It's not out of the question for them since they have repurposed characters on a few occasions.

similar anon: They took the piss out of Moyo. I hope Moyo and Robbe are assigned to a group project with Yasmina so Moyo can show peaks of another side of his personality in a way that can be enjoyed. Doing this won't take away from the original storyline, but it will give Moyo/Noa some respect on his name and if it's smartly done it will be a positive addition. Meanwhile Kato can be around, but, like luka, with even less screentime.

similar anon: Do you think wtfock will touch on the awful messaging presented in their resolve to the hit and run incident?

similar anon: What do we know about Moyo's life in cannon aside from his mom has bipolar, he has a younger brother, his father is absent? And he lives in the more humble side of town? Is there anything more substantial that was discussed or shown in a clip?

Disclaimer: This is super long its about Moyo but covers the grey remake characters. For wtfock to redeem Moyo they would have to write their ass off. Is it possible to write that subplot in the most muted tone to not overtake s5 big plots? Yes, but wtfock does not have the chops to execute that much depth they would need to leverage their social media similar to how we know Josh has pretty staunch abandonment issues in druck from the words he uses to express himself to Nora in text. We can see how his father absences has effected him profoundly and how he is pretty clingy and always jumps to Nora is breaking up with him as a 1st option. Wtfock would have to do something similar to that and they just dont have it in them.

From what I understand s4 was written by Bram and it was written not to long after s3. Remember when Bram had that weird good bye tweet or something like that for wtfock its was before corona that waste meant to be it for him and wtfock but ovi the world mind melted and he had a hand in s4 but he did not write the busy work I hear he only wrote large pivotal scene so probably the dance battle, the self harm scene and the crash scene but from what i get he didnt write the lead up to those scenes so when they happen they seem oddly place versus what brought us to that moment. Moyo is probably one of my fav grey characters in the skamverse up there with Arthur, Lola, Ismail and what I feel like Lucas in SkamNL would have been like. These characters can be unforgiving and vicious at times they have a pretty dark strike in them. They can railroad peoples feelings when they push the self destruct mode and they just typhoon. Anyone around them was just in their way in that moment it wasnt necessarily personal. Moyo does this a lot to Robbe and Aaron he is in a bad mood well watch out cuz he may use either one as a punching bag in that moment(all of them do this) and then later probably apologize because he gets it wasnt their fault. He is highly impulsive and emotional oh and his tongue forget about it (remind u of any1? Arthur maybe?). He’ll tell you to “fuck off”, “he doesn’t need you”, “your stupid” (who else does this? Lola and probably Ismail). Also all these characters give me survivor vibes meaning they well justify shitty actions to survive Moyo and the car scene he didnt care about the other person he cared about his Mother because I gather he is a deeply loyal person to people he loves anyone else they just exist and sometimes they are collateral damage (I think Lucas skamnl had these traits concerning his loyalty to Kes and Isa just being in the way) and Moyo has a temper but can also be a really loving person, funny, caring and empathetic towards causes he understands like Sander’s BP. Arthur and Lola are exactly the same. Fly off the handle one minute and then be insanely vulnerable the next (I suspect Ismail is going to have this trait too). I got a anon awhile back saying it would be powerful as fuck if the bench scene happened between yasmina and Moyo(or yasmina,moyo and robbe) and I was like I would be floored that would be so beautiful to me it would need to be something like that and like I said wtfock does not have the capacity to write something that deep and nuanced. All I can hope for is he dumps Kato and maybe dates Keisha hahah. I am keeping my expectations low. I know who am dealing with.

#lucidpantone anons #Lola~Arthur~Moyo~Ismail~Lucas NL #You arent meant to love these characters they are meant to challenge the concept of good and bad people

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twdmusicboxmystery · 5 years

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Mailbag Fan Question and Oh the Possibilities!

Okay, this came out the week before the finale aired but I never got around to posting about it. There’s the obvious suspicious stuff, which I’ll point out, but doing research on the details, I also found some interesting connections.

So part of the Mailbag Fan Question post for the finale was, “What happened to the remaining hospital staff at Grady Memorial?”

Let's appreciate the fact that I don't think this came from a TD-er. It probably came from someone in the GA, which means we’re not the only ones who’ve noticed the oddity of Grady being left standing and what to know what’s up.

Why include this in the fan mailbag right before the finale? Obviously we didn’t see Grady in the finale or anything about it. So why put this here? They get thousands of fan questions and generally only include the ones that are asked the most or are super relevant to the upcoming episode. And of course thy don’t reveal any spoilers. So again, why have this question?

You could argue it’s to remind us of Grady's unfinished story line. Between this and all the suspicious tweets the Grady actors have written over the years, it’s obvious Grady will become relevant again at some point. That alone doesn’t prove we’re right about Beth being alive, but let’s be real. She was the ONLY character that had a meaningful arc at Grady. The ONLY one privy to all the things going on there or who learned anything meaningful from it. If Grady is going to become relevant again, then Beth is going to become relevant again.

But again, why give us a Grady Update now? Again, the actors have tweeted things out over all the seasons, so why is AMC choosing this moment, this finale to post this?

Obviously we can’t say for sure, but I think it’s just more proof of how close she is. They post this before a finale that had Alone parallels, a blond walker who got an icicle in the eye, Christmas themes, and Daryl staring at Beth’s picture. Not at all what I would call a coincidence. I’m thinking more and more that we’ll see her early in S10 (kinda like we saw Morgan early in S5). I think all of this points to that. While we may have a long hiatus ahead of us, I think we’ll see Beth in the next handful of episodes which, in the scope of the show, really isn’t far away at all.

Now let’s look at the answers. First, let me credit those in my group who hashed all this out for us. They include @frangipanilove, @bethgreeneprevails, @thegloriouscollectorlady, and @wdway. This is a collection of their thoughts and mine.

First of all, it says that the Grady people perform an apocalyptic musical. Do you really think “music” is a coincidence? Even putting Beth aside, the last episode the Grady staff were in is called Coda, which is a musical term. But we can't really put aside Beth because she was the songbird on the show. The only one who literally sang.

They also say the musical is called Mammalton. I would've known that reference but luckily other people in my group did. It's a play on the show, Hamilton which is a famous off-Broadway musical. More on that in a minute.

Then it says Mammalton is the story of mammals taking over and forming their own democracy following the collapse of society. That strikes me as pretty much exactly what was happening at Grady. Society collapsed and this group of people was trying to create a new society on all their own. Of course, it was extremely flawed and not much of a democracy, but still. So perhaps this is a way of saying that Grady is still standing, and that maybe it created a better society after TF family left. Hmm. Wonder who could be leading that.

I also had the thought that it might be a play on the word, Slabtown. Even though Mammalton is a play on the name, Hamilton, it sounds a little like “Mammaltown.” In a way, that might give some insight in the title, Slabtown. If the “town” part simply represents a particular society, then Slabtown signified that this society bread only death, rather than hope, and was a subtle clue to Beth’s fate in 5x08.

Then there's the songs that are mentioned. "Stay Alive," "The Dead Commandments," and "The Gory of Tonight (reprise)." These, too, are plays on titles of songs from the musical Hamilton. The songs from the play are called, “Stay Alive,” “The Ten Duel Commandments,” and “The Story of Tonight.”

Come on now. Stay Alive? Can we get any more obvious than that? The Dead Commandments. Obviously, it's a biblical reference to the Ten Commandments, but remember that we saw pictures of baby Moses and the burning bush on Father Gabriel's wall in Strangers. You know, right before we saw Beth on the Grady story line?

And it strikes me as a progression. Moses was separated from his true people and family as a baby. The same thing happened to Beth back in S5. She became separated from TF. Now we have reference to the Ten Commandments. Moses didn’t bring the Ten Commandments to his people until years later (*ahem* time jump *ahem*) after he’d reunited with his real family. So seeing Baby Moses pictures in 5x02 foreshadowed Beth’s separation from TF, and Ten Commandments referenced before the finale may foreshadow…her return.

The Story of Tonight has less obvious ties to TD, but the “gory” part is obviously a general TWD theme. I did look into what the song is about and it’s about revolution and fighting for what you believe in, even when it’s not by far the easiest thing to do. So it works well with TWD.

So this “Grady Update” would be super suspicious just with what I’ve said so far, right? But naturally, there’s more. As I looked into the musical Hamilton, something else occurred to me. Another connection between this and something else AMC put out this season.

They’ve used two real paintings as part of their promotion this season. There’s this Thanksgiving picture, and then this Crossing of the Delaware picture. In both cases, they superimposed TWD characters onto the faces in the picture. I’m going to reference the Crossing the Delaware picture today.

Our group has discussed it back and forth quite a bit and tried to read TD stuff into it. We’ve been moderately successful. But reading through the plot of Hamilton, the musical, I made a huge connection.

So, a little background for those who aren’t familiar. This painting depicts a famous event during the American Revolution, when George Washington crossed the Delaware River (an extremely dangerous crossing) on Christmas Eve and surprised his enemies at dawn. It was a major victory because they took the enemy's camp while the enemy were still asleep and half drunk on Christmas wine and were able to completely overtake the camp without a single loss of American life. I think a few of the enemy were killed, but not many. It's a very famous story.

In my group, we found this interesting anyway because of the Christmas references here, the river (water) and of course the founding fathers suggest DC. And of course in the finale, TF did cross a river, albeit a frozen one.

So what does this have to do with this mailbag fan question?

Well, the plot of the musical Hamilton is basically about Alexander Hamilton. It's a play that tells the story of his life through true historical events and the eyes of other founding fathers, who are all part of the play. I connected it to the painting of George Washington, because during the famous Crossing of the Delaware, Alexander Hamilton was Washington's aid-de-camp, which means he was Washington’s right-hand man.

So this reference to the musical Hamilton and the picture of George Washington crossing the Delaware on Christmas Eve are connected.

Reading through the plot of Hamilton in more detail, there’s a few suspicious things. Rick’s face is the one on George Washington’s in the picture, right? Well, if Hamilton was Washington’s right hand man, who does Hamilton represent in this analogy? You’d think it would be Daryl because Daryl has always been Rick’s right hand guy. In short, it’s not. Hamilton is Beth. Let me explain why.

1. Hamilton isn’t actually present in the famous painting. Most of the others in the boat with Washington don’t represent real historical figures. They’re more like composites of people involved in the American Revolution in some way. Many of them have varied cultural clothing to represent different countries and factions who took part. So Hamilton, though he was there historically, is not actually represented in this famous painting. (Beth is not there with TF right now.) Plus, Daryl’s face is on another character in the boat, (the one near the front) which specifically is NOT Hamilton, so Daryl can’t be Hamilton.

2. Reading through the synopsis of the play, there’s a whole section about a man named Charles Lee who is granted a command by George Washington, but turns out to be a terrible field commander. After Washington fires him, Lee goes on a tirade against Washington, claiming that he’s an unfit leader. Hamilton wants to challenge this man on Washington's behalf, but things get complicated. I was just thinking that sounds an awful lot like what happened at Grady with Dawn and Capt. Hansen. Unfit leaders, challenges, duels? Major parallels there.

3. When Hamilton dies near the end of the play, he’s shot in a duel. He ends up in musket duel with someone he truly doesn’t want to kill. So when they turn and fire at one another, he misses on purpose (kinda like Beth stabbing Dawn when she must have know that wouldn’t kill her) and is in turn shot himself (just like Beth.) Interestingly, the final musical number in the play is called, “Who lives, who dies, Who Tells Your Story.”

In short, I think it’s safe to say that Beth = Hamilton in this scenario, which makes even more sense because Hamilton was used to answer a question about Grady. If the musical is about Hamilton’s lives and battles, then applied to Grady, it pretty much has to mean Hamilton = Beth.

So the short of this is that both these things—the Grady Update and the Crossing of the Delaware picture—point to Beth’s imminent return.

The long of it is that this has me spinning in tons of directions. It’s all just conjecture and head canons and predictions I have absolutely no way of verifying right now, but I can’t help myself. Given that Hamilton is Washington’s right hand man (Rick in the picture) and that I’ve always compared the Dawn/Hanson dynamic to a Beth/Rick dynamic (details HERE) and the fact that Grady was practically part of Rick’s hallucination right before he disappeared…

And then there’s THIS POST I made a million years ago about how this shot from Coda shows that Rick, Daryl and Beth will be on similar leadership levels…

I’m just thinking more and more that it makes sense that Rick and Beth will end up in the same place. That would make all their parallels make perfect sense. And while I 100% think she’ll be a leader in her own right, wouldn’t it be super cool if she met up with Rick and sort of stepped into Daryl’s shoes as Rick’s right hand person for a while? That would REALLY put her and Daryl on the same level, wouldn’t it?

Not to mention…Legs? Beth? Red Machete? Rick? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Okay, okay. Again, this is all conjecture and my imagination is running away with me. Just wanted to point all this out because I think they’ve give us some heavy foreshadowing here and even if I’m not interpreting it entirely correctly, it’s super-important for S10. Thoughts?

#beth greene #beth greene lives #beth is alive #beth is coming #td theory #td theories #team delusional #team defiance #beth is almost here #bethyl

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Within the Wires Season Ranker

Just finished s5 of WtW and wanted to rank the seasons since they are so different. I also want to say I love this show beyond belief and think its excellent all around.

Season 2

Season 3

Season 5 (may over take s3 when i re-listen)

Season 1

Season 4

Explained Feelings Below the Cut

Season 2: Honestly one of my fave peices of audio drama ever. The format of an audio guide for a visual medium, on paper does not work but somehow im transported to a gallery setting and then further transported further onto an island off the coast of Cornwall. This season manages to capture a dystopian, love story murder mystery but in such a classy way. Rima Te Wiata also just really sells the admiration and grief so well. It also works almost so well as a stand alone

Season 3: This one really focuses on character and interconnectivity for me. Michael is just a really compelling asshole boss who like despite recognizing all his shortcomings continues to stumble along in some weird confidence. Also due to the setting we get a deep look at the inner machinations of the society. So far I think it has the most connective tissue to the whole show. It makes it fun to spot the references but hold it back from shining alone.

Season 5: Its new and shiny and I just finished it. I like the reverse time line, getting to see all the things Indra missed in retrospect. I like the little extra bits with gwen but other than the last one, I don't feel it adds much. Indrid is a lovable romantic oaf and even as we see her arc backwards, it some how doesn't feel spoiled. I think this season might overtake my love of season 3 in time. Plus it could also work as a standalone.

Season 1: I’ve never been a huge fan of season 1. Primarily b/c when i first started it when it was first being released it was on the heals of WTNV and Alice, both of which favor a more direct narrative over WTW’s more immersive nature. I think it really starts picking up with 4 once you have a better idea about the characters settings and stakes but E1 and E2s focus on vaguely off relaxation tapes gave me a poor initial impression. My opinion has softened overtime but due to my intial experience with it, i find it hard to recommended to non podcast ppl and i wish i could so i could get them into season 2!

Season 4: The biggest things against this season for me I think is the Freya and the season Arc. Freya kind of sucks even if she makes a great cult leader. Also the arc of this season is a little flat. It’s never clear to me if the mission of integrating the cradle or defending the cradle is super clear and the ending is ambiguous. This has the reverse issue of s1. This front half is good the second half is just ok for me. I think maybe it’s b/c freya is just traveling all over and not connected to the regulars goings on of the cradle outside of a few lines. Its harder to get what’s at stake. The highlight of this season for me is the story of the farmers and the 2 women.

Like I said I just adore this show and its a regular re-listen. I cant wait for S6 and more work from J&J. This may be the first time I go in on something as a patron.

Let me know what you think of the season. I would love to hear it.

#Within the wires #wtw #nightvale presents #podcastin #Starrysays

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