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#currently listening to my dad lie to someone (a lawyer?) about how much he makes#bc he’s still trying to claim money from my mom’s ICBC settlement#just told her ‘I make ten thousand a year maaaaybe twenty thousand now that I’m back in the lower mainland & working more’#meanwhile I know full well he made over 40k last year and is set to make close to 50k this year#which yes isn’t a whole lot be he’s also ‘retired’ and getting his pension payments#and even without that he’s making a hell of a lot more than my mom’s 800 a month disability#I fucking hate how two faced he turns about money#to his friends he brags about how much money he makes#and even brags to me when it suits him#and the rest of the time to me my mom and the lawyers he’s constantly saying he barely has enough to live on#meanwhile he’s out spending between 40-80 dollars every night out on food and beer#and when I say every night I mean EVERY NIGHT#hah just heard the person (his lawyer?) call him out on ‘misquoting’ his income#my dad does not sound happy he’s pretending to be surprised/confused#he just fucking made an argument that my mom ‘still used the washing machine and bathroom here’#like?? yes?? she does because it’s STILL HALF HER HOUSE#and I live here and she is my MOTHER she is fucking allowed to visit me you dick!!!#I love my dad but I fucking hate whoever this person is who he becomes when money is involved#ALSO i found out that when i paid my last three months for rent and payed extra (i wanted to help contribute more bc i was in a place where#I could afford to at that point) I paid it to my dad for the first time and HE DIDNT TELL MY MOTHER ABOUT THE EXTRA I ADDED#my rent is supposed to be split evenly between them bc they both own half the house#and he just fucking kept the extra. didn’t tell me and didn’t tell my mom. I am LIVID#this is why i had been paying it directly to my mom up until this most recent payment#clearly changing that was a mistake#personal
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How to Get Medicaid for Nursing Home Care Without Going Broke
Medicaid is actually a loan from the government, Heiser says.
Well-off people can easily go broke paying for sky-high nursing home care: First they deplete their own funds and then, eventually needing Medicaid, spend down nearly all the rest of their assets to qualify for that government program designed for low-income individuals.
The way to avoid this terrible situation is to put in place a Medicaid asset-protection plan early on. One powerful solution is to buy a single-premium immediate annuity, says attorney K. Gabriel Heiser, an elder care Medicaid expert, in an interview with ThinkAdvisor.
For 25 years, Heiser focused exclusively on elder law, and estate and Medicaid planning. He is author of “How to Protect Your Family’s Assets from Devastating Nursing Home Costs: Medicaid Secrets” (Phylius Press 2017-11th updated edition).
Sixty percent to 70% of nursing home patients are on Medicaid, says Heiser.
In determining eligibility, Medicaid differentiates sharply between “assets” and “income.” The potential Medicaid recipient is permitted to have only $2,000 in assets, though they can still receive certain income under certain circumstances.
In the interview, Heiser discusses a number of techniques — all of them legal — to shelter or reduce assets to qualify for nursing-home Medicaid.
One of the best, he says, is a so-called Medicaid-Friendly annuity, which essentially converts “countable” assets into income, which is exempt.
The average cost of nursing home care is $92,000 a year and much higher in New York and Hawaii, among other states. The average stay is two-and-a-half to three years. Care for a person with Alzheimer’s disease in a locked unit can come to more than $450,000 annually and is typically for a period of at least five years, Heiser says.
Though Medicaid wasn’t created for middle-class people “to pass their money on to their children at taxpayers’ expense,” Heiser writes, he reasons that it makes sense and isn’t unethical to “avail yourself of the laws” in order to minimize expenditures on nursing home care and indeed “pass those savings on to your children.”
Most folks make the mistake of waiting too long to plan for asset protection, says Heiser. They should begin at the first sign that their spouse, parent or sibling likely will need nursing home care.
Heiser was formerly chair of the estate planning committee of the Massachusetts Bar Association and an adjunct professor of the College for Financial Planning at David Lipscomb University. A professional version of his book, “Medicaid Planning: From A to Z,” is directed at attorneys, financial advisors and CPAs.
ThinkAdvisor recently spoke with the semi-retired Heiser, 68, on the phone from home in San Miguel Allende, Mexico. He revealed some of his Medicaid secrets and how they can help clients shelter their assets. Here are highlights:
THINKADVISOR: What’s critical to know about Medicaid?
GABRIEL HEISER: To qualify, you can’t have more than $2,000 in Medicaid-countable assets. So if you have cash in the bank or any other assets that aren’t on the exempt list, they’ll count toward the $2,000. That’s not a very high amount — but the point of Medicaid is that it’s supposed to cover the poor.
You write that hiding money and not reporting an asset on a Medicaid application is fraud.
Yes, fraud against the government. You’ll be disqualified for Medicaid, and there are also criminal penalties.
What about having income?
You can still qualify if you have, say, pension income. But there’s a cap of $2,205 a month for Medicaid recipients. However, some states have a rule that if your income is over that figure, you can direct your Social Security or pension into a trust — a Miller Trust, also known as a Qualified Income Trust. The trustee pays the money to the nursing home, and Medicaid pays the difference. Typically, the bills are going to be more than $2,000 a month. So even though you have income over the cap, you can still qualify by setting up that trust.
Suppose the “community spouse” — wife or husband of a Medicaid applicant or recipient — is living at home and earning income?
Those earnings are always completely separate, and there’s no cap. As of July 1, 2017, the minimum income that the community spouse is permitted to own [Minimum Monthly Maintenance Needs Allowance] is $2,030. If the community spouse has less than that, she or he can get some income from [their spouse] in the nursing home. Say the wife is living on Social Security of $1,000 a month. She’d be entitled to another $1,030 — or more — from her spouse’s income.
You write that Medicaid is actually a loan from the government.
Yes, and when the recipient dies, the state can come after the person’s estate to repay it. A lot of states never used to enforce that, but then the government clamped down.
How can you plan to avoid Medicaid’s going after your house?
If you’re married and your spouse lives in the home, the house is exempt no matter what the value. One technique for a single person would be to own their home jointly with another family member. You can get a “ladybird deed” that says upon my death, the house passes automatically to so-and-so. A number of states allow that. It’s terrible if someone doesn’t avail themselves of that because it’s just the price of a deed.
So a single person should take special precautions.
Right. Sometimes, if you didn’t do advance planning, the state will force the survivors to sell the house and repay the nursing home bill. Then if anything is left, it will go to the family members.
What if a couple has a joint investment account?
They should transfer all the assets to the name of the community spouse.
Suppose they have assets of, say, half a million dollars in the account?
They should get help from an elder law attorney. Sometimes there isn’t much you can do, and you just have to spend it down. Typically the elder law expert would recommend some combination of gifting and a Medicaid Planning annuity, and possibly an irrevocable trust. You can wait out the five-year lookback period for gifting and pay privately until the five years are up.
What if you do nothing?
That’s the worst thing because you’ll wind up spending all the money on the nursing home. They cost about $100,000 a year, and the average stay is two-and-a-half to three years. So you’d quickly go through that $500,000.
What about returns the investment account could be generating? Won’t those be counted?
That’s OK because starting 30 days after a spouse enters the nursing home, federal law says that the assets of the community spouse no longer count. So even if they won the lottery, it doesn’t matter. The good news is that once the individual qualifies, Medicaid doesn’t look at the community spouse’s assets again.
Please talk about an irrevocable trust and the Medicaid Planning annuity you mentioned.
The best idea would be to put excess money into an irrevocable trust five years in advance. The next best thing would be to make a gift into the trust with part of the money, which is counted as a gift and is therefore subject to a five-year lookback period. The other part of the money would perhaps go into a Medicaid Planning annuity, also known as a Medicaid-Friendly annuity. That turns an asset into an income source.
Tell me more about the Medicaid Planning annuity.
It’s an irrevocable immediate annuity that pays a fixed amount every month. The government says it will be counted as income, not an asset. So if you put $100,000 into this annuity, you’re making it “disappear” by turning it into a source of income.
Who gets the monthly payment?
The nursing home. Typically, the annuity won’t pay the whole bill, and Medicaid will pick up the difference; whereas if you kept the $100,000, you’d have to spend it down till it’s gone and then apply for Medicaid.
Is the Medicaid annuity subject to the five-year lookback period?
No. That’s the beauty of it. It’s not considered a gift. You’re just converting something from the countable side to the non-countable side. It works best for a married couple because you make it payable to the community spouse. Depending on how long the person in the home lives, you can still come out ahead by using this annuity.
You write about converting an IRA into a Medicaid annuity.
That’s a very good option. Depending on the state, an IRA could be considered cash and therefore would be a countable asset. You don’t have to withdraw the money from the IRA — you can convert to an immediate annuity within the IRA and get paid a monthly fixed amount.
You say that long-term care insurance is a good idea. But that’s expensive. When is it appropriate to get such a policy?
It’s quite cheap if you buy it in your 40s or 50s. But if you’re in your 70s, it might be $5,000 or $6,000 a year. It still might be worth doing if you have the cash because it will protect your assets. I would definitely look into it. It could make sense, depending on the person’s age and factors such as a family history of Alzheimer’s.
Is setting up a “burial account” to prepay the Medicaid recipient’s funeral and burial expenses a good idea?
Yes. Depending on the state, you can sometimes put in $8,000 or $10,000, though there’s a cap. This should be an irrevocable transfer specifically for funeral and burial. I would recommend it. You might as well pay for this now because after you’ve spent all your money, if the person on Medicaid dies a year later, where’s the money for the funeral and burial going to come from?
If a married couple has a joint savings account, can the community spouse withdraw some of that money and put it in a separate account?
Yes. It’s always a good idea to separate any joint accounts and put as much as possible in the name of the community spouse. Some states say the first $120,900 is permitted to be kept by the community spouse; other states say you have to divide by two; and half will be attributed to the community spouse, the other half to the spouse in the nursing home. But that doesn’t count a house they may own, a car or other personal property.
What if they have more than $120,900?
They have to do some planning. It would be almost like a single person with too much money in their name figuring out what to do with it.
You write that one way of spending down assets is for an adult child to charge their parent for caregiving.
That’s a good technique because it will quickly reduce the assets in the parent’s name. Some states will allow the child to get paid in advance based on the parent’s life expectancy, how much time the child is putting in, what they’re doing for them and so on.
What’s another way to shelter assets?
If there’s a disabled child living in the house, you can transfer the house from the parents’ name to the child’s name; and it’s not considered a gift. Or you can transfer it into an irrevocable trust for the benefit of the disabled child.
What if you transfer your home to the name of a child that’s not living in the house and disabled?
Generally, that’s a mistake. People think the state won’t come back and take it later. But Medicaid expects its loan to be repaid. If you transfer the house to your kid’s name, it disqualifies you from getting Medicaid for five years because of the five-year lookback period for gifts as a way to transfer assets.
If the community spouse receives an inheritance, they shouldn’t refuse it or give it away, you write. Should they just spend it down, then?
They should accept it and then use a technique such as “half-a-loaf,” where they give away half the money and with the other half purchase, say, a Medicaid annuity.
Suppose the person in the nursing home gets an inheritance?
They’ll be disqualified from Medicaid until they’re back down to the $2,000 limit.
What if the community spouse dies before the death of the nursing home spouse?
They have to make sure their will doesn’t leave everything to the nursing home spouse. It should go into a special trust for their benefit. If you leave it outright, it’s the same as their having cash or getting an inheritance.
What if the community spouse doesn’t own a house but rents an apartment instead?
One idea is for them to move in with their adult child and put their name on the deed. That way, they can convert some of the money sitting in the bank account into interest in a house, which is exempt.
Can military veterans receive any special Medicaid consideration in the scenarios we’ve discussed?
Veterans should definitely look into whether they qualify for the veteran administration’s Aid and Attendance Pension Benefit because in some cases, they can even have assisted living paid for. The disability doesn’t have to be from a service-related injury. With Aid and Attendance, [the requirement] is that they need the care at this point in time.
What’s the error mistake people make regarding Medicaid?
Not planning soon enough — putting off the inevitable and then they’re thrown into having to do emergency planning. When you start seeing a parent or spouse going downhill, you should try to do some planning. The best planning is done five years in advance because of the lookback period for gifts as a way to transfer assets.
—  Related on ThinkAdvisor:
Top 15 Cheapest States for Long-Term Care: 2016
Top 15 Most Expensive States for Long-Term Care: 2016
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Can You Save Too Much in Your 401(k)?
When people meet a doctor at a party, they ask about a pain or a rash.
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When they meet a financial professional, they’ll try to get a stock tip.
I won’t go there. But if the person seems genuinely interested, I’ll ask, “Is your portfolio diversified?”
Usually the answer is yes; they’ll say they have stocks, bonds and mutual funds.
And I’ll say, “I mean are you tax diversified?” Most people haven’t put much thought into that, because they haven’t thought about what the taxes will be when they start to withdraw their retirement funds. So we talk about tax-deferred accounts (such as 401(k), traditional IRA or 403(b) accounts); taxable (brokerage-type) accounts; tax-free accounts (Roth 401(k) or Roth IRA); and other after-tax investments.
People tend to stick with the conversation when I tell them that one of the biggest mistakes I see investors make is overfunding their tax-deferred retirement accounts.
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A Pervasive Problem
A large percentage of the people I meet with – probably 80% to 90% – have almost all of their money in a 401(k), traditional IRA or some type of qualified retirement account. Why? Because it’s easy, and that’s what they’ve always read or been told to do.
Any article about retirement over the last 20 to 30 years wants savers to believe a 401(k), with its before-tax automatic payroll withdrawals, is the best thing going, because it will help set them up for retirement. And it’s managed to suck a lot of individuals in on that premise. Most of the stories are only discussing the tax savings today and tax-deferred growth. But they aren’t discussing the exit strategy from these plans.
Unfortunately, what consumers don’t realize is how that money is going to be taxed when they add in the rest of their retirement income – Social Security and a pension, if they have one. They may think their tax brackets will be lower in retirement because their incomes will be lower then. The reality is that most people don’t want to see their incomes dramatically drop when they retire.
Also, many will not have the itemized deductions that helped them in the past to reduce their tax bills. Further, Uncle Sam wants his money, and he knows how to get it. Retirement accounts have what’s known as the 70½ rule, where there is a required minimum distribution (RMD) for all accounts. It is a specified percentage that has to be taken out, whether the funds are needed or not. Also, this percentage increases as the person gets older, because it’s based on life expectancy.
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The Result, in Dollars and Cents
That means I see things like the client who is paying $268 a month this year for her Medicare Part B premiums, which is double the standard premium of $134 a month. Because her modified adjusted gross income (which includes all taxable income plus one-half of her Social Security income) is above $107,000, she must pay a “high-income surcharge.” That’s another $1,600 a year that, in my opinion, is just another tax.
More often, I hear from people who decide to take money out of a retirement account to pay for some end-of-the-year splurge – maybe a new car or a Christmas cruise for the family. What’s the harm, they tell themselves. We’re over 59½, so there’s no extra penalty, right?
Except they’re already taking regular monthly income distributions that are taxable, plus this lump-sum distribution. And they’re getting Social Security payments – of which up to 85% could also be taxable – and possibly a pension or additional income. Many times that results in additional taxes due, because when you add up ALL of the taxable income for the year, they haven’t paid enough taxes on ALL of their income. If that’s the only or main asset you have for income, big purchases, vacations, home repair, etc., every dollar of your distributions will be subject to ordinary income taxation.
What You Can Do
What can you do to lessen the blow?
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There is no one-size-fits-all strategy, but one thing you might consider is what I refer to as filling the top of your bracket.
Let’s say you’re married and you’re in the 25% tax bracket with an adjusted gross income of $130,000. But that bracket actually goes up to $153,100. Would it make sense to convert $20,000 from an IRA/401(k)/403(b), etc. to a Roth IRA now, pay the tax now, and then get that deferred growth and have it tax-fee when you decide to withdraw it? Maybe not all $20,000, but it’s something to look at each year in the fourth quarter.
If you’re still working, you should only be funding your 401(k) up to your company match, and then, if your company offers a true Roth 401(k), divert the rest of the money you’re saving into that account. If you qualify for a Roth, it’s a great thing. Or just pay tax on the money and put it into a regular investment account, so you can take advantage of long-term capital gains.
This is why it pays, literally, to have a financial professional who takes a holistic approach to your portfolio. Someone who looks only at where your money is invested isn’t going to give you the whole picture. You need a professional who also will take care of your hard-earned savings with a sound tax strategy.
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Kim Franke-Folstad contributed to this article.
Matt Hausman is the founder and president of Old Security Trust Corp. and Old Security Group, a Registered Investment Advisory Firm. Matt is an Investment Adviser Representative with Old Security Group and a licensed insurance professional.
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