can't decide which version of this book cover i wanna use for fic i'm thinking of writing

THEY ARE SO INSUFFERABLE AND HORRIFIC AND AWFUL BUT SO AMAZING AND DORKY AND THIS PART IS SO UNFAIRLY FUNNY AND CUTE AND WHOLESOME-- PLEASE, PLEASE HAVE MORE SCREENTIME IN S2. PLEASE LET THEM TAKE OVER THE SHOW. I KNOW THEY'RE HORRIBLE PEOPLE BUT I NEED MORE OF THE VEES.

And the most important scene of them all (to me):

First of all, how is Vox doing that. Second, you just know that these two douchebags are going to bang so hard with Alastor getting his ass kicked replaying in the background after this. I hate them so much.

I have a love/hate relationship with Valentino's design.

IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS???

Alastor not only revealed his source of power but the fact that he DID make a deal with someone and he wants out of it!

He wants to get into heaven! The way he sang that final song! He made a deal, wants out of it, and to be redeemed!

He says he's there to watch people fail for his entertainment. NO! He's there to watch them fail so he knows what NOT to do! He wants to get into heaven and most likely to see his mom! As confirmed that his mom was good and most likely got into heaven.

HE JUST WANTS TO BE GOOD!

I was casually re-eatching Hazbin Hotel and I SAW SOMETHING I CANNOT UNSEE

Look at them.

The cheeky bastards.

I cannot be the only one that didn't notice this the first time watching.

I specifically looked for a picture with Biaggi to paste it over his face.

No context, only bad memes.

So I can imagine this; Alastor having a universal TV remote just to mess with Vox at random times.

Vox would be doing something, be in a meeting, hanging out with the other Vee’s and his TV head is suddenly flipping channels and he can’t figure out who’s doing it.

Valentino can’t figure it out who’s doing it.

Velvette can’t figure out who’s doing it.

No one can figure out who’s doing it.

Except for Alastor.

He will be pressing random buttons just to mess with him and laughing at the colorful words that Vox will be saying about the channel flipping.

This was meant to be a short little joke style theory but it turned into a character analysis so the before cut is the main interesting point and the rest you can read if you want my take on Vox as a whole, and what I personally would do with him nest season.

The reason why Vox hates the past so much is because he has so many regrets/ kind of hates himself for getting into the situation he's in where every waking moment is either dealing with his public image, dealing with Vals tantrum/manipulative bs (Yes I think Vox is being manipulated by Val I believe in the "Val can secrete a date r*pe drug type substance in his saliva") OR endlessly trying to make power grabs to "prove himself". The other overlords DO NOT like this man, I reckon that upsets him more than he lets on (my theory as to why he sent Velvett to that meeting instead) .

Vox focuses on "upgrading" because facing his past and where he fucked up is his literal worst nightmare. It just so happens that part of his past that he regrets (Alastor, whether you think it was a failed romantic proposal or not it CLEARLY had a big affect) is somebody who embodies the past.

He moves away from past technology to move away from Alastor. He constantly upgrades himself/ his products because looking into his past is not something he wants to do.

Of course, that only worked for 7 years, now Al is back he's FORCED to face at least some of where he fucked up which is why when we see him, despite being an overlord, he looks incredibly pathetic. It's not that his power level is so much below Alastor, (though that could be a factor) but he's facing his worst nightmare every time the deer fucker shows up.

Alastor pisses him off sure, but what really gets him so twitchy and almost paranoid is what Alastor represents, his past.

This isnt trying to defend Vox or whatever but I do think that he's the least objectively evil out of the Vees. To me he's a "doesn't want to be evil he just wants recognition and oops, now you've got it through bad means" kind of guy who's been teamed up with a sleezy manipulative asshole who doesn't seem to have any motivation other than just enjoying being a creep. And Velvette, who while we haven't seen anything super bad yet, she clearly endorses Val (the love potion advert) and is also more abrasive than Vox.

Its even more so shown in the finale when Vox is super exited about something (it's Alastor dying, but still) and the other two are just completely uninterested until it benefits them.

I've seen some people saying that Vox and Val are the main and Velvette is the one that's off to the side out of the three but despite doing, whatever you want to call THAT in the finale with Val, Vox is more obviously the one who doesn't line up with the other two as well.

Vox probably wished he'd pursued a deal with Alastor rather than the Vees because then he'd get what he wants, to be recognised and respected. Even though Al does mostly command through fear there is respect for him among those who are more powerful than him, all save Lucifer of course. Vox on the other hand has basically no respect from anyone who he doesn't mind control, Velvette treats him like Val control and Val is CLEARLY using similar tactics that he would on one of his 'employees' on Vox. (Acting super whiny/ guilt to get what he wants, pushing his buttons to get a reaction after his initial outburst didn't piss Vox off enough, THE RED SALIVA). While the annoyance between the three seems to be just petty bullshit I'm certain that, at least on a subconscious level that Vox knows that if he hadn't got in with them that he'd be better off. VoxTech certainly seems the most lucrative out of what the three control. And the other two wouldn't exist if it warned for the tech HE supplies. (Vox is the real backbone of the Vees). This man clearly SO DESPERATELY wants attention and to be adored. Rather than hating him like I do with Val, it makes me pity him. And THATS the centre of all this, he is pitiful and so has MORE room for character development.

Its fully possible that he blames himself for fucking up whatever proposition he had for Alastor when in reality, Al is just an ass but Vox can't see that

Of course this is just my interpretation, but it'd make S2 where the Vees are confirmed to be a bigger focus much more interesting if Vox also gets this internal dilemma/ self doubt.

They could still feasibly swing in either direction of characyer development and I'd consider it well written and thats what makes him so interesting to me. He has so much potential for both good and for evil, also for general annoyance and comedy.

If it were up to me I'd do the megamind route of FINALLY letting the character win against their enemy, only to end up pissed off about it because the person they pinned all their problems on wasn't actually the cause of them, then swing in a completely different direction because this is hell and the feel good stories are reserved for characters who believe in therapy. Maybe a song where Vox prevails, only to then later reprise in a version where he loses his sense of self a little, maybe finally realises how little the other two care after he finally bests Alastor in something but it doesn't matter because he "didn't get any new territory or souls" or something along those lines. A second song could be Vox actually coming into his own more with a song all about him, nobody singing over or with him. It doesn't even have to redeem his character it would just be singling him out as Vox, not one of the Vees.

This ramble was brought to you by the powers of procrastination. Congrats on actually reading all that shit. (And lmk if you'd add anything in your opinion?) =3.

I found one of Valentino's artworks in the corner of the screen when Vox and Val are singing and throwing the knife at the pic of Alastor

why the hell does he kinda have my art style

that's scary

and the way it says "I'm da bes" lmao

@thestupidmeanone / sc

"What are you supposed t'be? Some weird fuckin' kaleidoscope?" She snorted in amusement after slipping her phone back into her pocket.

Ah yes the new mean girls looks great

me when valentino:

♡ ♡ ♡

I said more Vees, and I meant more Vees

I'm experimenting a lot with this one, so who knows if it will look anything like this when I'm actually done with it, but have a WIP:

They're celebrating Velvette's first fashion show (Yes, she dressed the boys, ofc ofc - they've got to rep their girl)

I'm trying to figure out where to draw the line (har-har lol) between lineart and lineless rendering. I think I really like the face/body being rendered mostly under the lineart (maybe????) and the clothes above the lineart???? Who tf knows but I"m playing around with lots of settings in Clip Studio and yeah, my layers are mostly unnamed rn, that's why I'm only working on Velvette atm haha I'm experimenting too much to label everything tbh *sigh*

Also pls appreciate her skirt, I'm very proud of myself - I didn't know I had it (plaid, ruffled tiers) in me. XD

"Alastor may very likely be a wendigo."

Wow. Cool! I had a strong feeling he was. That makes him a thousand times scarier.

"That means Vivzie clearly is racist bc it's cultural appropriation."

Uuuuuuuugh!!

Girl, the wendigo HAS been a pop culture figure for years, if not decades. It is a fact it's not limited to Algonquian or First Nations anymore since ages. Vivzie is very, very, very, very, very very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very FAR from being the first to put a wendigo in a fictional work and far from being the last. Because it is a fucking POP CULTURE figure.

So how the fuck is it suddenly "appropriation"? And how the fuck can you call s/o racist with that one thing (Alastor being a wendigo)?

Also, that may not be the socialist or leftist usual line, (you may call me a fascist or a racist too if that makes you feel so good to be paranoid and see racism everywhere) but I think that "cultural appropriation" concept is pure bullshit:

Cultures, even very different cultures always have crossed paths, blended in and mixed with each other, learned and picked legends from each other. The way it happens isn't always right or just or even logical, it's just natural and human. It's how humans function! In North America and everywhere else in the world!

Or do you mean every people should stay away from their neighbor and never have any interaction with a people different from them? Or any interest in learning new things? If I had followed that mindset, I would be ignorant as fuck AND actually and fully racist. Because racism comes when you don't know shit about people different from you, does it not?

Rather, see that so-called "cultural appropriation" as a opportunity for non-Native American people to learn more about Native American cultures. Or is cultural diversity "cultural appropriation" too??

And bitch, if Vivziepop really was racist against Native Americans, do really think she would have used one of their most popular legends to create her most popular and charismatic villain? Also, if she had no idea what a wendigo is, I may have agreed with you, but she clearly knows what a wendigo is, she educated herself on the subject!

Unlike you, who NEVER educated yourself about her!

And I can't believe I've just explained all that while it's all fucking OBVIOUS and commonly known! How old are you? Five? (tho I bet there are five-years-olds who're more educated and thoughtful than you)

If you're a minor, you shouldn't even watch Hazbin Hotel in the first place.