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The Brilliance Of Top Gun Maverick's Secret Villain
The Brilliance Of Top Gun Maverick’s Secret Villain
Top Gun Maverick was one of the biggest box office success stories of 2022, dominating the box office for months on end. However, some people brought up the interesting fact that there is no named bad guy in the film. There isn’t a specific country the Navy is fighting against, only that they need to get rid of an illegal facility. But Nate believes that’s because the movie is about something,…
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One time Maverick lost the only family he had and the one time he didn’t.
#top gun#top gun maverick#pete maverick mitchell#nick goose bradshaw#bradley rooster bradshaw#forsty gif#im in my villain era
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slider + mav angst wip
Maverick’s face falls with Slider’s heart, right down to the dusty compacted dirt floor of the shed. He shouldn’t have said that. He should not have said that.
“Mav I-”
“I know.” He speaks so softly he can barely make the words out. “God, Slider. I fucking know. You think you’re the first person to tell me that? Get in line.”
#y'all i'm sorry but slider is the 'villain' in this fic (he knows what he's done wrong he feels really abd about it)#pete maverick mitchell#top gun 1986#ron slider kerner#blazingstar29 fic
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“I am guiltless. She ran, I pursued.”
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#disney!daggers#fern creates#moodboard#moodboard series#top gun maverick#top gun 1986#the hunchback of notre dame#tom iceman kazansky#judge claude frollo#Judge Frollo!Ice#yes#I know that Val is religious#I am not poking fun at that at all#there are just very few male disney villains
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in top gun meta hell rn. what the fuck am i doing in top gun meta hell. i don't think i'm supposed to be thinking so hard about this movie. it's not designed for this.
#me debating the agency of Ice's character rn#“can Ice's character truly exist outside of maverick” technically yes.. but plot wise.. no.#me about ice:#“If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it does it make a sound?”#thinking about ice's “motives” like he's a fucking bond villain or something#my drafts are just full of half written ice essays about his “agency”#somewhere in my notebook it says “if mav left the navy ice would turn to ash”#my room is probably the messiest its been in two years and i'm sitting here trying to verbalize why Ice's career seemed so hinged on mav#TOP GUN META HELL!#top gun#iceman#tom iceman kazansky#maverick#stopthatfool goes crazy and explodes#seriously. im gonna explode.#sorry needed to get this out of my system
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Work In Progress Wednesday
So technically this is part of a bigger story featuring Hangman (shocking I know- he's the only one I ever write lol) as Maverick's son who is pushed aside in Pete's efforts to win back the love of Rooster... BUT I thought this was a fun little emotional moment between Bradley and Mav. Enjoy
"Bradley wait please" Maverick begged, and Jake watched as his father finally managed to catch the other man by the arm. "Please, I just- I just wanted to say a few things before you go."
Rooster narrowed his eyes but complied, though he did shake his arm out of his Captain's grip, "what is it?"
Maverick struggled to compose himself for a moment, clearly surprised to be given this opportunity, no doubt expecting his usually aggressively angry godson to have shoved him away. "I'm sorry to do this now, I know this isn't the best moment but I can't- I need to get this out" he explained thinking about how uncertain a future chance might be. "I need you to know that everything I did, it wasn't because I didn't believe in you."
The taller man paused for a moment, eyes assessing before he cleared his throat, "Then why-" Bradley pressed, "-did you do it? Why did you pull my papers?"
"I had to" Captain Mitchell shook his head, "You- it wasn't that the Navy was too good for you, but you were- you are- too good for the Navy. You don’t deserve to be used as their pawn, you’re worth so much more than that, your life is worth so much more than that. I know I shouldn’t have pulled your papers, I know I set you back those years but you are still here, the top of the top, the best of the best, because of your talent and your skills. Even with me trying to hold you back” he inhaled emotionally, “you are still where you belong, in the sky, like your father.”
"Mav" the brunette swallowed roughly, "this doesn't fix-"
"I know it doesn't" Pete cut in, "and I understand that. I just need you to hear it now. I believe in you, I always have, I always will. I love you Bradley and I need you to come home okay? Don't think up there. Don't hesitate. Don't doubt yourself. You belong out there. Don't think, just do."
Bradley’s face crumbled for a minute, emotion clear on his face. He offered the man in front of him a nod before he sniffled back a sob, “I- I just wanted to make you proud-"
"And you have" his godfather confirmed gently, "I am so proud of you Baby Goose, I always have been. And these past few weeks, getting to fly with you, it's been the greatest honor of my life."
"Flying with you has always been my dream-"
Maverick gave a watery smile, "mine too kid."
So what do we think?
#top gun maverick#bradley rooster bradshaw#pete maverick mitchell#top gun: maverick#all the feels#family angst#I still think Bradley was the villain for all the horrible things he said to Maverick and the others#not okay Rooster#rooster fanfic#jake hangman seresin
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I love your interpretation of Mav and Ice. I love how realistic they both feel because well, they're white men in the Navy starting in the 80s. What it does make me wonder about Carole? I know you don't write for her but your analysis of Top Gun itself just made me wonder about her. Like whether she was a traditional military wife or just kinda met Goose and fell into it. Did Goose's death and the period between his death and her's change anything? Did it make her more skeptical of the military because of the cause of Goose's death or was her asking Mav to not let Bradley fly purely out of her hurt for Goose's death and not a moral/political thing also. PS. I read your Slider fic and absolutely adored it
well… i think any attempt to flesh out Carole’s character is gonna be completely based on conjecture, because we’re not given more than “slightly naive Christian woman who doesn’t always say exactly the right thing.”
But I think it’s helpful to remember where she fits into the narrative at large, and why: Carole Bradshaw is the villain of the Top Gun franchise. Top Gun is her villain origin story.
The rhetorical purpose of the top gun franchise is: to make money, obv, AND to get people to join the navy. (to what extent it’s successful at achieving that latter goal is the topic of a different post… im certainly not the first to say it’s pretty easy to find an antimilitary reading of TG.) but if top gun is aiming to portray the navy as someplace you want to be, and someplace where you have to earn a spot to be (as I keep repeating over the last couple weeks, it’s all about honor), then Carole Bradshaw becomes the villain of the recruiting story of Top Gun: Maverick, because she (momentarily) prevented her son from joining the navy with the honor he thought he deserved, and she is to blame for the emotional through line of the entire movie. Thank God! we don’t have to blame maverick for fucking up and preventing Bradley from achieving his Dream Of Working As A US Military Contractor! we can blame his dead mom instead, so that maverick is still a good guy whom we, a moderately-conservative pro-navy target audience (🤑), can still root for & pay money to see.
so yeah narratively speaking she’s just a scapegoat. She has no agency in the story whatsoever, she’s only an object to receive blame. any backstory/reasoning/character we invent for her doesn’t really matter. It doesn’t really matter WHY she does it—whether she hates the military or not, narratively speaking we have to blame her just the same either way—it just matters that she does it. and then she has to immediately die so she can’t explain herself and maverick has to self-sacrificially take the blame. Because otherwise the plot of TGM wouldn’t happen, which would not achieve the rhetorical goals of making a bunch of money and getting kids to sign up for the navy.
#always a treat to remember that the target audience of tgm is republican dads of teenage boys#i only watched top gun bc i (teenager) was forced to by my formerly republican dad#i saw ur Carole post & i actually think she was fridged.#in case you couldn’t tell i am a little pissed about it.#very rarely are side characters just characters. everyone (paramount pictures and me included) has an axe to grind.#thanks for the ask glad you liked slider! It’s my favorite thing I’ve written for the fandom so im glad#top gun maverick#top gun#carole bradshaw#asks#pete maverick mitchell#* pissed about the fridging not about your post. i liked your post#she is killed not to strengthen the emotional throughline of the story but#solely to further TGM’s pro-navy pro-recruitment agenda and absolve the male MC of guilt.#that is the purpose of her death & her character at large in the franchise#sooooooo imo it doesn’t really matter what her outlook is/was#she’s the villain#and also part of joining the navy/having family members in the AFUSA is accepting the risk. esp if ur husband is an aviator there is so#much risk involved independent of enemies etc. people die flying all the fuckin time. she would’ve had to accept that#the fact that she doesn’t accept that is what makes her an anti patriotic villain etc etc#and remember she TOLD maverick GOOSE would’ve accepted the risk ‘he would’ve flown anyway’#again she is incredibly out of character in TGM (as is Mav) re: papers pulling & its all to serve this rhetorical goal
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au in which Mav doesn't know the origins of Goose's callsign, Merlin is more than happy to provide all in details over a drink, Nick wants to be shallowed by the ground and a particular tall brunette man is looking at them from the other side of the bar but Mav prefers his blond friend blond, who's drinking the same vodka since he noticed them.
#mother goose original villain story#actually is pretty funny#merlin always doing everyone's work#au: different first meeting#au: '86 but no dadt or whatever the usa military was doing back in the days#mav sees the tol blond from the other side of the bar and minemineminemineminemine bc he's one of the seagulls from finding nemo#(au: slider&goose are married and mav knows nick is married but not to whom until slider doesn't do something reallg smooth like callin'-#-him baby in the middle of a discussion or kissing him good luck before a hop or slider introducing himself after merlin's story/-#-finishing it for him and then introducing mav to ice)#goose x slider#future icemav#sam merlin wells#pete maverick mitchell#nick goose bradshaw#ron slider kerner#tom iceman kazansky (mentioned)#pre top gun (1986)#top gun (1986)
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[image description: a comparison of luke skywalker in 'the last jedi' to maverick mitchell in 'top gun: maverick'. under a picture of luke, there is a list of traits that read:
old luke:
old and grumpy
nothing like the real luke
gives up on the jedi
ridiculed
refuses to train rey
sad and pathetic
won't fight
dies for nohing
under a picture of maverick, there is a list of traits that read:
old maverick:
older and wiser
same core character
still believes in top gun
respected
trains new pilots
jaded but inspiring
fights despite the odds
puts his life on the line
end id.]
listen i hate rian johnson and the last jedi as much as the next guy but this post Just Ain't It
#top gun: maverick#the last jedi#first of all if you're gonna talk shit about tlj don't compare apples to oranges to prove your point#mav and luke are completely different characters with completely different motivations#'ridiculed' by whom?? exactly?? if anything mav is the one ridiculed he's literally thrown out of the bar by his own students#and cyclone makes a point of saying he wouldn't piss on mav if he was on fire#whereas luke is respected and feared by Everyone in the galaxy#'sad and pathetic' i hate what rian did with luke's history with kylo too but like can you blame luke for being sad??#and how is he pathetic exactly??#'still believes in top gun' what the fuck does this even mean#mav believes in himself and his wingman and his kids Not in the system#'won't fight' luke very much did fight tho?? that was a thing that happened??#he literally astral projected and fought the first order at the cost of his own life??#(yes that was a stupid way for luke to go out but you can't say he didn't fight.)#second of all if you're gonna criticize rian and tlj Do It Right#talk about him completely sidelining all the characters of color in favor of making the white fascist villain more sympathetic#or rey's entire personality narrowing down to 'kylo can be saved!!' literally five canon minutes after kylo killed han#and then tried to kill finn (for which rey almost killed kylo)#or rose teaching finn (a former stormtrooper) about the cruelty of the first order like he didn't know Full Well firsthand??#or the fact that rian was so invested in telling His Story he tossed everything jj gave him in the trash#even tho it threw a wrench into the narrative and everyone's characterizations and thereby fubar'd the sequel trilogy#also you mean to tell me the man who was so kind and forgave darth vader would've been tempted to kill his own nephew (even for a second)?#I Don't Think So#good characterization shat on because rian and kathy kennedy wanted to make kylo the byronic tragic hero or whatever#which is why it's so shocking that rian wrote knives out and glass onion. apparently he Can give characters of color depth.#he just didn't want to for john boyega and kelly marie tran and oscar isaac.#which. again. is why he's on my eternal shitlist.#my stuff#anti rian johnson#tlj critical
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Villainous Theory: Dr Flug and GoldHeart Foreshadowing and Lore in Codigo Guajolote (Code Turkey)
Initially I thought that Flug's favorite show: Codigo Guajaloto was the Villainous version of Top Gun or Top Gun Maverick. But rewatching Episode 4 again, there might have been some possible foreshadowing and lore.
The gist I got from the show was that is basically about Micias, call-sign Turkey, (the guy covering his head with a turkey-mask) who was a loose cannon pilot, his girlfriend died, everyone blames him. He lost his arm and his plane crashed and there was a war which turns out to be a dream.
But looking back I think that Micias might symbolise Flug. I mean he is a loose canon (which can be used to describe to a villain) pilot, covering his face with a headgear. Sounds kinda familiar right?
So I think most of the foreshadowing and lore will point to Flug’s past, current events, and possible future prediction of what will happen in the show.
Micias has no arm (V.I.R.U.S Spoilers)
In the same episode, it is shown that Airlock's right arm is robotic or it could refer to her detaching her robotic arm, thinking that being lost in space is better than to be in the same room as these Crazy Villains.
He crashes his plane (V.I.R.U.S Spoilers)
This is a reference to Flug crashing his plane in Black Hat Mannor.
She’s gone because of you!
This might imply that Flug blames himself or thinks this that it was somehow his fault that Cecelia left Black Hat Academy.
(This was before he found out the truth that she stole his Thesis to become a hero.)
Or the grey-haired guy might represent GoldHeart facing off Flug in a future confrontation after Flug put a wrench in his plans by indirectly sending Miss Heed to jail. (Will explain more in below posts.)
Everyone blames Micias for the death of his girlfriend (V.I.R.U.S Spoilers)
This is a possible foreshadowing for Episode 6, that the media indirectly blames Flug for Miss Heed's arrest.
You’re a stray bullet, Turkey!
An angry GoldHeart confronting Flug with Villainy. Giving his hero speeches.
You can see in the "She's gone because of you" post shows the turkey-guy looking bored of the grey-haired guy. So that's what Flug's reaction probably is. 😂
The 10-year war turned out to be a dream (V.I.R.U.S Spoilers)
This one is a bit complicated.
Initially, I thought the 10-year war part was about Flug’s 10 years working in Black Hat Organization fighting against Heroes.
According to Flug's Research Book and Dem's Diary Flug mentioned that he can't remember when exactly he worked for Black Hat and estimated his working time as around 8 - 10 years. (Source)
[Google Translation of Source]
I have been working as the chief scientist of the Black Hat Organization for approximately 8-10 years.
But…
This does not explain the dream part. So I came up with another theory.
My theory for the 10-year war is that before Flug joined Black Hat Organisation, Flug had a Arch-Nemesis conflict with GoldHeart that has been going on for 10-years. (Flug might be a few years older than the show actually says because of the cryo-bed freezing his age, will explain this in another theory)
The dream I believe means that Flug and GoldHeart's relationship is different from the Flug's dream in Episode 1.
Let us look back at Flug's Interpretation of GoldHeart in his Dream vs Real GoldHeart:
The Dream!GoldHeart seems to taunt Flug calling him a failure and saying he will never succeed no matter what he tries.
When I first saw that, I imagined that the Real GoldHeart would be extremely angry and boiling with rage that Flug, his Arch-Nemesis succeeded in putting a wrench in his plans to end Villainy forever, in Episode 6.
But, the Real GoldHeart just disappointed and frustrated. Like, he's annoyed but it's not that big of a deal…
From Flug's Research Book and Dem's Diary it was mentioned that Flug believes that hatred between the 2 parties is mutual. So in Flug's dream GoldHeart appears to hate Flug, because from Flug’s POV, he believes that GoldHeart truly hates him. But that might not be the case as shown in Real GoldHeart’s POV.
There also some other examples that their relationship is much more complicated as shoewn in Flug’s POV, like Flug’s reaction to seeing GoldHeart on television or when Flug reminiscent about their past as he goes through his stuff, Flug’s reaction of possibly facing off GoldHeart as shown in Episode 4 and Episode 6 respectively. (I might make another post about this, I ran out off space to add photos, haha)
So, I believe that their relationship is much more complicated and more layers that what appears in Flug's dream.
Villainous Show Headcanon
As mentioned earlier, I believe that the Turkey-Mask guy, Micias, represents Flug and grey-haired guy represents GoldHeart.
In the future, as Flug continues to interfere with GoldHeart's plan to end Villainy forever, GoldHeart will retaliate by coming up with a plan using the heroes in order to stop Flug.
My theory is that everytime Flug and the gang is hired by a client to do their Hero Extermination Service, GoldHeart will use strategic and tactical methods, involving the Heroes or whatever resources that he has, in order to capture Flug.
Flug in return will try to counter and predict GoldHeart's moves and retaliate with his own plan, and GoldHeart will do the same. And so on…
As shown in one scene in Codigo Guajolote, it's like similar to a game of chess...
#villainous#dr flug#goldheart#villanos#villainous headcanons#villainous theory#top gun#top gun maverick#cecilia amanda kelly#dr kenning flugslys#herbert leth#flug#gold heart
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Hangman angst
I want to headcanon that Hangman is the one who gets left behind by Rooster and that everyone assumes he's the one at fault. Imagine the rumors ruining his image and that any good deed he does people will not think of him even if he or someone else ( Coyote) tells them.
Hangman grabs some beer for his squad mates, and he places the tray on the table and walks off to get himself a drink. When he comes back everyone's drinking one of the beers and they all think someone paid for them when he walked off and bought them. Or another time he offers people's rides, but they always think it's because he wants something from them later. Helping a teammate with their paperwork, they get insulted thinking he is insulting their intelligence.
Whatever the deed is they think he has some motive and eventually he stops trying to be helpful or nice to his squad. Then later the daggers come and slowly things start to go the same way until they acknowledge that Hangman is doing good deeds just because he can.
#Pre top gun maverick#Hangman's old squad or random teammates#hangman#top gun maverick#Dagger Squad#Hangman being the villain while he's not#People assuming that it's always Hangman's fault or he's the bad guy in every situation#Trying to make this angsty
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The Top Gun: Maverick creative team going ridiculously out of their way not to name the enemy whose nuclear enrichment site the Dagger team blows up at any point during the movie is so funny because like...it's Iran. It's very clearly Iran. It's barely even masked; anyone who even knows a tiny bit about international politics would pick up on it. They spent the whole movie doing everything in their power to avoid naming names while simultaneously screaming "okay but it's them!"
#top gun#top gun maverick#the original top gun had some actual villain ambiguity (it could reasonably be north korea china or russia)#but not maverick asdfghjkl
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Thinking about how the first one to call Maverick, 'Mav, after Goose died was Slider.
He talks to a lot of people, but Slider was the first!
#i have a lot of feelings about it#i think that's why i can't accept a post canon villain slider#the way he hugs maverick at the end#listen that man likes mav#to me there is no way he could let go of the fact this man saved him and his best friend#slider kerner#maverick mitchell#top gun 1986#i don't mean this is a shippy way but you can tag it as such
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finally saw top gun: maverick. not sure if i liked it so i think i should watch it 8 more times to be sure
#but! i have been thinking about it for 5 days straight#first of all. glen powell has never been in a bad movie#second of all. i was a longtime miles teller hotness denier but i'm big enough to admit when i'm wrong#also saw the original again (all timer)#and the biggest takeaway is that ice is never wrong#point out one moment where that man is incorrect#he's not the villain and he's not even an asshole he's right!!! iceman was right#top gun#top gun: maverick
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Y’all get out of this persons inbox. People are allowed to have opinions that don’t align with yours. There’s absolutely no excuse to treat someone like this because you don’t agree with them.
Thank you!!
If I kept count there is sooooo many amazing people on here! Let’s keep posting pictures, gifs and fan fics. People please tag me in your stories! I want to read them!
#top gun maverick#no time for hate anymore#why did I let myself get upset?#I’ll be your villain sure#i’m a bad person
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so i bought the outsiders on dvd (and the entire heartstopper core series but that’s a story for another day), and im so excited right? i stalk it on the app and im so ready to get it. only to find out the digital code expired on the 31 🙃
#the outsiders#this is not okay#digital code#this is my villain origin story#this and when movies anywhere took my top gun and top gun maverick codes and didn’t give me the digital movies and their customer service#was shit
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