#there's been so much shit in this fandom recently
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https://x.com/CorenLaVolpe/status/1787971755027612092
As much as a Greek enjoyed the Hades game having people literally taking for granted the designs of the gods as legit is problematic.
No Hermes isn't Asian coded. He's Greek like every God. Literally what does the word Greek next to Greek gods mean to them? An accessory? Give me a break
I got a few asks like this, so I will try to answer them here. This is the post the asks are referring to, and this is the post that started the whole discussion afaik:
This is a whole phenomenon that has lasted for decades in the US, first with USians presenting the gods as North Europeans and now as "everything but" North Europeans to combat the previous racist trend. However, they are still completely tone-deaf, self-absorbed, and privileged because while they do this "correction" they're ignoring actual Greeks, and Greek depictions (and depictions of Greek gods in various areas in the past). Westerners might not be aware of this, because they don't know how badly the Greeks have been treated by powerful countries in the past (including their US, thank you for the Junta and our recent fighters' deaths, honey) but the protests about the gods' design are anti-colonialist.
I want you to imagine this trend with whatever pantheon you want from Africa, Asia, South America etc. Imagine that for centuries they are presented as super White North Europeans by certain powerful nations. Now the same nation who did this racist shit in the past comes around and does more racist shit, by NOT presenting these ancient gods as their people view/viewed them but they present them as everything BUT the appearance they had in all their depictions by the locals. All the while NEVER listening to what the people of this culture tell them, all the while comparing the locals to these gods and finding them uglier and savage. Why would this be acceptable? And why are people so comfortable to forget their cultural sensitivities when it comes to Greece?
(I am aware the US racism also expanded to other pantheons but it didn't happen in this exact way so all I'm asking is to walk in our shoes for a bit, to experience a different flavour of colonialism)
This blog stands for absolute equality and it's heavily anti-racist and anti-fascist, with various resources and support links for minorities in Greece. Everyone is welcome here. This blog believes that if you are of Chinese, Pakistani, Nigerian, Roma descent in Greece you must have the same rights as everybody else and the way you look is not "lesser" than anybody else. I just ask people to consider - especially if you are an immigrant - how you, your parents, your grandparents would feel when seeing your important cultural figures treated like this by the US.
As you have understood by now, changing the depiction is not suddenly okay when the Greek gods now have the palest skin with blue eyes and blond hair. No, that's still racist, and Greeks have been repeatedly told that they are lesser for not looking like the beauty ideals these northern countries projected onto our gods.
Asking for accurate god depictions is a matter of wanting your culture to be treated like.... not a prop, for once. Everyone is free to interact and relate with the Greek culture but when you take the Greek culture and its depictions out of the equation, then the whole thing becomes "playing with dolls", and a fandom (as is the case already for the US).
The Greek gods have been used by Westerners in the past to promote White supremacy, and today they are used by Westerners to combat it; but it still happens in the most divorced sense from the Greek culture. USians are still sooo hesitant to REALLY look at another culture that they'd rather lose common sense (aka, depict gods as the locals see them for millennia) than not white-knight for their fellow Westerners. It's actually infuriating that progressives in the US still miss the mark when it comes to combating US neo-colonialism, and whatever elements left in their culture from colonizing European countries.
And how can we tell the Greek gods are used as props in this US political climate? Simple. They themselves will tell you "It's okay to depict those gods however you like because 1. They can transform 2. They have been worshipped by people of different appearances 3. Greeks can have more than one appearance 4. They are not real. " Then, you tell them "Then why don't you depict Chinese, Indian, Nigerian pantheons whoever you like today? These pantheons all have the above four conditions apply. (No. 4 depending on your beliefs)" And when you strip those first layers, they tell you the actual root cause: "But Chinese, Indian and Nigerian people are still oppressed. Plus, non-white people need to see themselves in media, so here is the chance!"
So, they admit that their only guide for how disrespectful they will be to one's heritage figures is actually the oppression status of that minority (just!) in the US. (Which shows they still don't give a shit about Greeks, cause otherwise they'd still know that Greeks still face bigotry in the US for how they look, how their names are, their customs) . To POC in the US: The moment your oppressors believe your oppression is gone, expect your pop culture to forget (again) all respect for your ancient gods and treat them like cool "new" products for their capitalist game.
And the above discussion paints the Greek culture and Greek figures as a culture-less empty slate, that can be made to represent every person in the whole world. It's US culture, even! But Greek culture is hideous actually, and the Greeks are racist brutes who get in our hair the whole time. Fuck the Greek people and their ancestors' depictions. Greek mythology is a product of no culture, actually, and we can treat the gods like self-inserts in our favorite fanfic. And this is totally not a colonialist mindset! Greeks are not robbed and genocided anymore, and we gave them "white" status in our country a few decades ago (but these ethnic hairy people are still not the same as us, obviously!), and the strings we pull to control Greece are not visible anymore to our own people, so we're good 😊
And, just to be clear: Greek gods are ethnically Greek, as every other [insert cultural descriptor] gods are from that certain culture. The Greek people consider themselves literal progeny of those gods. The first Greeks were born of the gods. Even today we call ourselves Hellenes because one of the first Greeks, the man Hellen, who was born of the gods. If the Greek gods don't express Greek cultural norms, and POVs, and ways of thinking about the world, and are not part of Greek history, what the hell are part of?? Cantonese culture? Do they represent Scandinavian ancient values perhaps....? Do they follow the philosophy of a First Nations tribe?? (This is more a matter of culture, not appearance since various people can be part of a culture. However, it needs to be said, because Westerners are willfully blind to common sense at this point.)
See this video from a Greek Canadian on Greek gods being ethnically Greek
To address one last thing: One person said "why didn't you say anything about how the gods were designed in the first game?" Well, I had made a post about it but some told me "noo they didn't change their race, they just have different colors like green, blue, pink, dark brown, and grey for an artistic touch". I was like "whatever, nobody knows, I have a life to live" so I deleted that post and didn't dwell too much on it. But the anti-colonialist message was the same as in this post, so that's another chance to highlight it.
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Thanks for the support in the inbox LMAO happy to know most people like my art
Kinda numb to the fact that antis use my art as something negative in my years of being on the twt fandom for 4 years I’ve been mass qrted gotten death threats gotten people telling me to quit art and that I should never hold a pencil ever again been used as a “if i had to see it you have to too” meme and I’m sure people still circulate my art once in a while to mock me for how I draw Dream. I’ve had people write hate essays about me in asks and antis pretending to be fandom people pretending to help me just to berate me and mock me and accuse me of horrid shit in dms just for my artstyle and much more 💀
These were kinda why I’ve been always so insecure and unsure and had low confidence in my art for the longest of time but I kinda just realized that people will find a way to shit on anything no matter how wholesome and happy I draw and I just kinda accepted that recently. If they insist on seeing my art as the work of satan so be it let them live their miserable excuse of a life y’know why should it bother me
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Not to get in my feels on main, but the way I was just looking through all the @nestaarcheronweek content (because I have so many delicious fics to catch up on) and saw just how much Nesta content there was this week??? Y'all... There were almost 200 posts
Almost 👏 200 👏 posts!
Almost 200 amazing fics and gorgeous art and dope-ass mood boards and everything in between! And that shit is fucking BEAUTIFUL and I'm actually so emotional about it 😭
I know that single character weeks don't tend to hit the way ship/couple appreciation weeks do, and I know Nesta is a "controversial" character in this fandom (we've all seen the hate and "hot takes"), so to see this? I am in awe. Genuine awe.
And I want to kiss every single person who participated in some shape or form this week! Seriously. Let me love you!!!!
Also, everyone better go flood @moodymelanist's inbox with love for running the week as flawlessly as always! 🩵 And extra special shout-out to @melphss and @podemechamardek for running the Instagram!
#there's been so much shit in this fandom recently#and seeing this kind of positivity#and like good fandom shit#it's fucking beautiful#and a breath of fresh air#let's do more of this#and less of the other BS#but really#I love each and every one of you#nestaweek2024#nesta archeron
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pumpkin carving :^)
#dude we are SO back#i keep drawing dca content holy shit i missed these guys#also i love drawing sun with his rays spinning#its pretty much the only reaction he has to anything#he's very excitable in his defense#my art#security breach#sun fnaf#fnaf sun#sundrop#sundrop fnaf#charlie daydreamers#sun x y/n#the daycare attendant#dca fandom#also i really like how ive been drawing sun recently#i finally figured out how to draw him from 3/4 view
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Ngl I kinda forgot how much I like drawing. I never really share my art so i hope y’all don’t mind the sketchdump!
@stealingyourbones i didn’t realize you graffitied my sketchbook with Philly until now u cretin
#superboy#kon el#connor kent#ninjago zane#Shazam#Billy batson#booster gold#michael jon carter#bart allen#impulse#sorry that the quality is shit. my camera is sorta fucked lmao#using 80s womens fashion poses for Kon btw is soso fun#highly would reccomend#Kon’s hair is a lil fucky but eh that’s what I get for not sketching it first and just going for it#and doing booster in classic pinup poses is so much fun#photobashing 40s pinups with modern bodybuilding poses#bones art#and since twins friend recently got me into ninjago I’m having a Blast figuring out my designs for the dudes in it#with zero fandom interference bc I don’t want to get spoilers til I finish watching the show#so drawing zane as an anatomical model has been very fun#I’ve completely changed his design already but this is my dc blog and I doubt y’all want to see my ninjago fanart lmao
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childhood comfort anime about plastic spinning tops from 2016 out here curing my art block🫶🏼
#just decided on whim to indulge in a 50 episode show about plastic tops just for the childhood nostalgia#hello beyburst fandom it's been five fucking years how many seasons are we at#i stopped watching after turbo🤡👌#anyway. can i just say i'm literally in love with all the charcater designs? like that shit slaps so hard#shu is so <3333 he has never had a bad outfit design#i personally love him in turbo bc he had the suit and the coat and he was growing his hair out and it was kinda fine😳#but yeah i just recently finished s1 and i'm starting on evolution soon#wakiya is still my favorite to date i love the snarky rich blond bitches#also valt and shu? otp 🫶#i forgot how much i hated lui like this bitch tried to gouge shu's eye out on national tv what a bastard how do ppl like him😭😭#carrot twig ass hoe#shu could flick you and you'd splat on the wall like a fly#anyway love the whole family dynamic that goes on in s1 which is why it's my favorite season:)#everyone's just a nice happy found family in japan#evolution was okay too ig but shu was missing the whole time and everyone left home so :/#idk s1 just hits different#beyblade burst#beyburst#beyblade burst shu#shu kurenai#beyblade fanart#beyblade fandom#lotus draws
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ngl i love the naruto fic trend of 'kakashi goes back in time and has to try to fix everything'
#it's so common but also 90% of those fics i've read have been SUPER good#i've seen so many different slight variations on this too#naruto#i really enjoy a hokage-era kakashi because he's the most put together and likely to actually fuck shit up and not worry as much about being#like. suspicious.#an early naruto kakashi might have more time being lost in his memories when surrounded by everyone he lost#i've seen ones where kakashi goes back alone. where he and obito both go. where some of the kids go with him#read one that killed me recently where a post-series hokage kakashi switches places entirely with his younger self#(though what his younger self is experiencing in the future is told entierly through him suddenly remembering things that never happened#as if they were long ago#and witnessing this altering of time and memory. kakashi in the past elects to not tell his team anything about the future#even when minato asks him directly#he takes it as torture and doesn't break.#i read one once where kakashi went back to his child body but the sharingan came with him#i've read one where in his attempt to fix things he gets himself kidnapped in rin's stead and becomes host to sanbi#i've never seen this trend be as common in any fandom as it is with naruto#i guess cause kakashi's past is a series of horrible events that. wouldn't you like the chance to fix them
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Years have passed since I've given up on tianshan being developed properly without mo constantly being made fun of by the narrative. I've still checked on 19 days from time to time. Then the fucking kiss happens. Then last fucking update. Feeling like a clown. I've been there since the beginning reading tons of fanfics and even making fanart which I only do for things I'm obsessed with. I suppose I never really gave up on the ship itself. It's just constantly seeing people in comments of chapters making light of how Tian treated Mo. How everyone acted like that's normal and ok and nothing should change. So I believed them and thought that that's how it is and that's author's intention and the way I saw this ship won't be canon. And then it fucking became canon. Still hate all these people in the comments though they're fucking annoying
#I'm talking about russian fandom#I wasn't even aware there was a big english speaking fandom until recently tbh#I still believe that TianShan started out as a toxic ship with huge power imbalance btw#and yeah I still shipped it cos I thought their relationship ship will develop and they (mostly Tian)#will change their behaviour#and I was fucking right#I love fictional relationships like this cos that's how human being are especially two teenage boys with unresolved trauma#of course their relationship will be unhealthy they don't know shit#there is no such thing as a perfect victim and I hate this concept so much#so stories about hurt people that hurt people and then they grow and learn how to deal with their emotional and other problems have always#been dear to me#tianshan#19 days
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With all the new Anakin and Ahsoka posts I’m seeing, I’m also seeing more and more Obi-wan post and ig here’s my hot take of the day: fandom has absolutely made me hate Obi-wan. I honestly didn’t think much of him in the movies but the more I interact with fandom, and the prequels fandom in specific, the more I hate fanon interpretation of him which leaks into the canon portrayal and it’s gotten to the point where any time i even see his name I’m scoffing out loud and rolling my eyes
#idk how to fully describe it but I saw a post recently that was about anakin’s idolization of obi-wan and it gave me such an uncomfortable#feeling I had to close the app cause yeah maybe it’s been a while since I’ve seen anything past tpm but I never once got that impression#like ik this is very much a me problem but people need to calm tf down about obi-wan#like he’s really not that great of a character sorry not sorry#anything that makes him compelling is in the eu and eu isn’t canon#for fandoms as large as Star Wars is I hold to the general rule (that I bend at my discretion) that if it’s not stated in canon ie#the movies then it isn’t real and in the movies obi-wan is kind of a shit character#not whatever weird mix of messiah/poor mew mew fandom has turned him into#generally obi-wan in the fanon works I’ve interacted with is treated as like#the main character and everything that anakin does/feels/is gets so that it’s all about obi-wan and how it effect’s him#and I don’t know how to filter it so I’m still seeing all the anakin-focused prequel fic I want without him having to share the narrative
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I was feeling sad before, but then the image of fluffy blond Yoosung hair in my brain suddenly made my heart feel warm.
#on a different note#i didn't realize suggesting that Yoosung wasn't a violent yandere was such a hot take#i wanna hug yoosung so much#sad feels#That man probably uses shit like 2 in one shampoo and conditioner. but if i had my hands on him.. his hair. id make him use better shampoo#and conditioner than i use on myself#i don't have money. but if i did i wouldn't mind spoiling him like a sugar baby. lol#my data suggests that most people in the tumblr mysme fandom do not like analytical posts. noted. i hope all that research I've been doing#won't garner the same pittiful interest my most recent one did. lol#it was frustrating trying to make that .gif banner because photoshop kept crashing. orz#GET IN THE TUB ILL WASH YOUR HAIR MYSELF!!
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casual reminder that you don’t have to justify why you do or do not ship two fictional characters together and if anyone asks you to explain yourself you can just not
#idk why this has been bugging me so much recently#I’m not built for ship wars#i’m too old for this shit#😂😂😂#fandom life#train thoughts
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aaaaaa i wna writeee
#🌙.rambles#there's so many things in my notes of like#ideas and aesthetics#i do write from time to them but god it's been ages since i#since i've last wrote smth with a proper storyline hhhh#just some bittersweet lines from time to time that i think of ? that relate to things/charas i love or my own feelings#damn bro my writing is such a mess and it reflects how i am myself#sigh but i think what's been holding me back for a while now is#idk what charas/fandoms to write for ? idm if i write and don't get much notes but i don't even know who to write for#recently i've been more in contact w my own reality which is nice bcs i typically feel distanced from the rest of the world#nah even now i always feel that sense of loneliness and distance lingering in the back of my head#but oh angst shit aside i've found it harder to#hmm no i still love fictional charas but idk bro i'm sick of dreaming i want it to be reality#sigh i really want to fall in love irl#but i'm not in any rush. i'm my own priority. it would be nice though if i find love without even looking for it#aaaa i keep on dumping my emotions on tumblr tags smh. habit i suppose#my selfish desire is romance :< i want my own story someday#but i guess i'm afraid.#but i genuinely am fine with shouldering all this pain. someday perhaps it'll be my time to... to idk but yes#helping has always been among my top passions after all !#and that also includes myself...#if i could just wish that#nahh#thinking abt it n at least the things i love like ffxiv and gbf put into words#the things i'm still hesitant to outright say
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why have these last years fucking sucked ass
#slimey-vents#trigger warning below hi did you drink water today and eat something i hope u did ur so cool and amazing pls get some rest gives u a cookie#please scroll past if uninterested i also dont want u to feel obligated like u have to read n listen to me vent and ramble on abt dumb shit#like 2020 - 2024 . have just been ass .#we're not even halfway into 2024 and it already is just#garbage . like its fucking horrible#i dont see how this year could get . any worse ?? but i wouldnt want to get my hopes up on that itll get better ?#like god what has been happening .#covid came up technoblade got cancer and passed away israel's continuing their mass genocide#and a lot of things have happened in my personal life . such as my mother passing away .#and . its just been so fucking hard ??#i wish i had lasting hope in humanity . but tbh i dont think its ever gonna get any better and that really fucks w me#ive been having suicidal thoughts and ive just been in a very shitty mental state recently#like social media#is honestly the only thing i have to live on#i have honestly boring friends n all my friends dont go to my school . my gf doesnt even go to my school#ive had to switch schools after having a fun time and doing a lot better . the only thing that im holding on by a thread to is social media#all my friends . my fandoms . etc . i talk to through my phone and through here#im so glad to have met everybody that i have on here#im sorry this is getting really long ive started going on a ramble but i just want everyone to know that i love yall /p#i appreciate everybody so much . all my moots and my close friends that ive made not only here but irl as well#and everybody that ive talked to throughout the time we've known each other . i really just want to think that everything will get better#everybody that ive met through my years of social media and school have really changed my life . and idk what i wouldve done#having never met any of them . especially my moots on here that ive grown close to#its just been stressful . but ive strived to get through it all . despite how hard it is#and how desperately i just want to let go from everything#but ending one thing doesnt end any pain it just gives it on to someone else#and i know that im way too pussy to end anything anyways .#but on another note .#please remember that you are amazing . talented . strong . and i appreciate and ily so much . /p
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WHA
Thank you guys so much for fucking over 100 followers on this little baby man art blog??? Omg ???? Auwjahwhch I don't know how to respond?? Ig just a callout that HEY I'm open for requests in asks for what the draw that including anything I've ever drawn before
#clue clears throat#holy SHIT#the requests thing does include lil pootis btw ive been seeing most of my recent followers pile in from just that specific fandom#but yeah its almost 4 in the morning i cant do much but say THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH OH MY GOD#ive had this blog for maybe a year now jesus
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.w.
#ramble#i just wanna gush somewhere#that im getting so much seratonin boost cuz a ship ive recently come back to has been gettnig#new fanfic updates EVERY D A Y#AND IM LIKE HELLLLLLLLL YEAH LETS GOOOOOO#thank you fanfic wrtiers#literally the BACKBONE of fandom#when i see a fic thats got 10000+ words#*smashes face into desk and snorts that shit like cocaine*#yes this is about tf2#LMAOO
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As funny as it would be for there to be another sans vs reigen standoff, I Do think it'd be really funny if we got Cecil to go all the way. Especially since, in my opinion, he stands the test of time and has come all the way around to the new brand of sexyman.
Like, yes, he was, in WTNV's early days, given the twink treatment. Dapper style, youthful features, etc. But he was never like that canonically.
He dresses horrifically (affectionate), he's canonically an older man even in the podcast's beginning, and he is and never has been a twink (he is neither thin, nor fat. Implying at thinnest, straight-sized, and at biggest, mid-sized).
Obviously this doesn't change the fandom's sexymanification of him, but it does lead him to fit more nicely into the sexyman that the aging tumblr userbase has recently developed:
The Babygirl.
Listen. Apart from the above, he can't cook for shit, he's petty, he's written Jaws slash fic and had his intern beta read it, he is CANONICALLY a dilf, he grows his own weed, he loves his husband So Goddamn Much, he won't shut up about how much he carnally desires said husband, he mentions his kinks on the fucking air, AND HE EVEN HAS A FUCKING TUMBLR.
I think he fits the bill for the pathetic older queer man that tumblr has grown so very Normal about. He is so very powerful. And after ten years of being this way I think he should be allowed to go all the way to the top. I think he's earned it.
Sure, if he doesn't stand a chance in the final four, I'll accept sans vs reigen. But if it gets close enough, say, above 40%.... Maybe we could push to go all the way. For the bit. For one of the original sexymen of tumblr history. For our dear gay uncle, Cecil Gershwin Palmer. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
#ramblings with major#welcome to night vale#wtnv#cecil palmer#cecilsweep#I JUST THINK HE COULD DO IT#HE'S BEEN DOING PRETTY WELL SO FAR WHAT IF HE WENT ALL THE WAY#ill go for sans v reigen but i want to submit my thoughts for the bit#cursing
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