something that drives me crazy is that in the winchesters at the end of the pilot dean says hes picking the music and a song that was iN THE SAME EPISODE was Walkin’ After Midnight by Patsy Cline and well 1) dean listens to patsy cline in this day and age? gay but 2) this song is literally about a lover who goes out walking at night because shes missing her lover and walking reminds her of him and hes presumably away from her and she is walking and hopinG SHE WILL FIND HIM
crazy thing about this song is that this played as mary was walking away from john right after they fought a demon and THEN . AS a demon possessed Ada. its fitting in that if youre looking at the songs meaning to be the singer is searching for someone who is away from them its a perfect parallel for how mary and john are both looking for their fathers but also theres this weird foreshadowing about how john after marys death was so hellbent on finding her killer and theres something sour in that song playing when shes walking away from him after they met for The Second Time Ever when you know theyre gonna fall in love
but also my take on how this ties into dean is that he picks the music and he picked this song for a reason and not just because it fit for john and mary . i like to think its because he listened to it and related to it in that he might still be searching for cas post 15x18
this could entirely be me trying desperately for destiel crumbs but ive learned its fine to be unhinged and desperate when it comes to supernatural so
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Hello Everyone I am so late to The Winchesters! Pilot 1x01
“They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.
But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another’s throats.
Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don’t have any kids yourself”
Philip Larkin (1971)
I had some VPN issues, here on Normal Island... Yes, British sarcasm - at this point only our humour sustains us, as we descend yet further into a mixture of political farce and fascism.
Anyway, that means I am super late to the zombie long-tail of Supernatural and have only just watched episodes 1-4 of The Winchesters, which, it turns out, is Scooby-Doo meets Stranger Things?!?!
Probably like a lot of you, the SPN ending broke my heart so much I wasn’t sure I could get back in, but Robbie Thompson deserves a hearing, right? So here goes...
There is a place for alien insect invasions... Doctor Who, Starship Troopers, District 9... On the other hand, despite their somewhat chittering ridiculousness, the presence of the Akrida (that’s actually the word for “crickets” in Greek) as a sign of Chuck’s multiverse, tell us implicitly what Voice-Over Dean tells us explicitly:
“Now I know this story might sound familiar, but I’m going to put the pieces together in a way that just might surprise you”...
Are this John and Mary our John and Mary, or, from a slightly sideways universe, where some things are similar and some different? There were no drawings of cricket-aliens in John’s diary in Universe One...
Of course, what that means (thanks Robbie) is that the SPN ending is just one (shitty) universe ending, and here is Narrator-Dean, alive and well, in a universe where MASSIVE CRICKETS drown out 15x20 Carry On ....
Mary and John bump into each other outside a movie theatre (this is how John told his sons they met, in Universe One Supernatural). But, although they share take-out coffee, a little later, which tracks with Universe One, there is no conversation about a shared love for Led Zep... (not yet, anyway).
The movies showing at the time of the Mary-John encounter are:
Deliverance (1972)
THX1138 (1971)
Klute (1971)
These films are concerned with: 1) survivalism, brutality, male rape, secrets; 2) a dystopian future where the populace is mind-controlled; 3) Crime, prostitution, sexual abuse, avoidance of intimacy
And Robbie T has made sure to include a Vonnegut reference for us too - this sign appears as John and Mary are about to discover the Men of Letters bunker together:
Slaughterhouse 5 is about someone, Billy, who is (like John) suffering from war-induced PTSD. Billy is an unreliable narrator, and the story is told in non-linear fashion. So, this is a neon sign (literally) to go deeper than the Scooby-Doo surface of The Winchesters.
Slaughterhouse 5 of course, also contains aliens, the Tralfamadorians, who experience time in four dimensions, meaning past, present and future are not linear for them.
So, let’s say a prayer that the Mary, John, Carlos and Lata Scooby gang takes us on a story journey worth following...
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So I finally watched the first episode of the Winchesters
And I liked it. I liked it a lot.
I haven't been on here much nor on Twitter in forever because of reasons (writing do I even know her) so I haven't really been spoiled on... anything lol besides the insane notion that Jensen got rights and wanted to do a prequel like two seconds after the finale ended, so when I finally decided to watch it... I liked it.
I wasn't really that surprised that I would like it... Jensen is in the seat and he loves Dean so much, and with Robbie being involved. I had more hope than doubt.
How I missed Dean's voice when I heard his narration. He will never leave me and it was so thrilling to hear it in a "new" context. Dean's never looked better.
Meg, I already love her as Mary. She definitely captured Mary's spunk. And I love how Mary is just spilling things lol to John after they meet in the cemetery. A nice contrast to how Dean and Sam didn't.
I like how they make John nuanced (I mean he is and although I really don't like John as a character at all in Spn) he is just that. I don't doubt that he thinks he loves his children but he has got serious issues and was abusive. You can still claim to love your children and hurt them. And 90% of Spn was related to daddy issues ; ) But it's refreshing to see a nice side to John, a more softer and vulnerable side. Ofc he has been affected by his time in Vietnam but he is still young and hopeful.
John as they enter the MoL crypt: Paranormal freemasons. xD Sure are, John.
All the references to Dean and Supernatural <3 just makes my heart happy.
As they are sitting in the car and John has a flashback to Vietnam and watching his friend die. "No ghosts in the car", Mary says yet John is haunted by the ghosts of his past. And isn't that a thread that will keep being interwoven in the trauma tapestry that will be Dean and Sam's life.
Lmao, I dk who Carlos is but I love him. He just showed up and killed it xD I was captivated as soon as he entered the screen. And he's bi! Bless.
When John asks what she wants to do with her life. Mary: Idk, I just wanna live long enough to find out. Ouch.
John's mom wanted to protect him and do anything for him when he was born and said to John one day when you have kids you'll understand. Already there is so much about missing fathers, John wondering where his dad is, and Mary thinking about Samuel and children searching for answers.
Saving people hunting things....
Things are the same, things are the same, repeated and cyclical but not. A spiral that expands.
I also hope that the imagery of Dean writing in the journal and narrating this story (in a sense his story) has wider implications. As a Chuck won truther and Heaven denier I really hope so. But time will tell. Onwards to episode 2!
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