How a Female Pippin Affects the Story: a Queer Ramble
Pippin is one of my favorite musicals, and I’ve been thinking a lot lately about what it would mean for the show if Pippin was a woman. In many ways, the story wouldn’t change it all. It’s about a person trying to find their purpose in life, guided by a performance troupe which is clearly a metaphor for mental illness. But, there are some changes.
With a female Pippin, the story is about a closeted lesbian going through an identity crisis, explores gender roles, discovers her sexuality, finds love, gets a cottagecore girlfriend, learns to accept herself, and fights internalized homophobia.
Let’s go bit by bit through the story, pointing out how things would change.
The Leading Player welcomes the audience to the story of Pippin, the firstborn child of Charlemagne, wanting you to cast aside all previous misconceptions. We meet Pippin, who has just finished university, “where [her] father had sent [her] to study, so that [she] may embark upon [her] life with a maximum of choices and possibilities.” (Feminist icon King Charlemagne??)
Pippin tells the faculty that she’s grateful for her newfound knowledge, but what she’s looking for can’t be found in books. She doesn’t know what she’s looking for, but it’s going to be something completely fullfilling. This is a very relatable experiences when you’re deeply closeted. You don’t know what you want, but you know that something’s missing.
For Corner of the Sky, I would keep the lyrics masculine. “So many men seem destined to settle for something small, but I won’t rest until I know I’ll have it all.” Although Pippin is a woman, she compares herself to men. Men have the freedom to dream, to be independent, and she wants that. But still, she’s going to do so much more than them.
Pippin tells her father she wants to be a soldier, again aligning herself with masculinity. We see after that Pippin isn’t a violent person and isn’t meant for battle, but doesn’t realize it yet. She thinks this will be fullfilling. It is a common queer experience to try to shove yourself into one box, thinking that is how you’re supposed to present. This Pippin thinks, “In order to prove that I’m unique, I should present myself in a masculine way by participating in war.” But of course, there is no right or wrong way to be a lesbian. A hobby or interest or trait doesn’t mean you’re gay or trans.
Pippin realizes she’s not a soldier. Her grandma Berthe tells her to find live in the moment and enjoy the simple things. This is when Pippin discovers.... women. I’m not gonna paste all of the lyrics (here is a link!) but the gist of the song With You is that Pippin is telling each girl, “You’ve awakened me, and I want to be with you” but the joke is that while he’s singing this beautiful earnest song, he’s hopping from girl to girl. However, even if you keep in that joke, a female Pippin is basically saying, “Oh, this is what I’ve been feeling. I’m a lesbian. Something has awakened in me and I want to explore these feelings.” (Cue the epic orgy scene!)
However, having all of this sex without love leaves Pippin feeling “empty and vacant” (obviously not everyone needs romantic love to be fulfilled but this is just one story ok). She’s had this sexual awakening but still hasn’t found love yet. So she starts a revolution, kills her father, and becomes queen, as one does of course.
Onto Act 2!
Pippin realizes she isn’t very good at being a queen, but TLP tells her that she’s on the right track. She’s discovered by Catherine, a widowed farmhand. TLP is concerned that Catherine is actually attracted to Pippin. Catherine says, “[She] put [her] hand on my face! They don’t usually do that.” At this point we know that this isn’t the first time TLP has told the story of Pippin, but this is the first girl Pippin. And this is the first time Catherine has fallen in actual love with one of the Pippins. Yeah, lots of lesbian implications there.
Catherine and Pippin begin a relationship and it’s very adorable. But then when Catherine asks Pippin to sit at the head of the table, Pippin freaks out. Even though this is what she wants, to live this simple life with Catherine and her son, a part of her is telling her it’s “wrong.” But of course, it isn’t wrong, but her internalized homophobia is telling her otherwise. So she leaves, and Catherine stops the show for a second so she add a new song, I Guess I’ll Miss the Man Girl.
“I guess I'll miss the girl
She's gone now, in a whirl
Her face was far from fine
But still I'll miss her face
And wonder if she's missing mine
Some days she wouldn't say
A pleasant word all day
Some days she'd scowl and curse
But there were other days
When she was really even worse
Some men are heroes
Some men outshine the sun
Some men are simple, good men
This girl wasn't one
And I won't miss her moods
Her gloomy solitudes
Her blunt abrasive style
But please don't get me wrong
She was the best to come along
In a long, long while.”
That’s gay!
TLP and the troupe tell her that the only fulfilling thing will be to to light herself on fire and “become one with the flame.” Basically, they’re telling her to kill herself. She almost goes through with it, but she says there has to be something more than death. Catherine and Theo come back on and stand by her. Now Pippin has found her purpose. To be with a woman, to have a family together, to live a beautiful quiet life.
The three are stripped of their costumes. The lights and music are out. There’s no more mystique. But this is what Pippin and Catherine want. To be their authentic selves, even if it doesn’t look glamarous or as beautiful as people wanted them to be. They’re not putting on a false performance for anybody anymore.
They walk off, but Theo stays on, singing the reprise of Corner of the Sky, with the queer implications of “I don’t know who I am.” Theo is a young queer kid. But of course, TLP and the troupe enter, implying the internalized homophobia, depression, and suicidal thoughts that are so pervasive within the queer community. Blackout.
So what have we learned today, kids?
Pippin is an allegory for queerness and self acceptance
Pippin and Catherine are cottagecore lesbians raising their gay son
ummm be yourself or something
On a serious note: I just wanted to take a moment to say, if you’re a closeted queer person: you are perfect just the way you are. And I know it’s hard. Believe me, I know. But even when it feels like the entire world is against you, please know that you’re not alone. You are under no obligation to come out until you feel ready to do so. But right now, there is a whole community of people who will welcome you with open arms.
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Hey y’all, my friend Logan was banned by his mom from using tumblr so I’m posting some incorrect quotes they made:
A: where do you get another duck?
B: we don't. It's just a good actor. Do you really think I get a new duck and kill it every night?
A: I didn't know ducks could act!
B: this one can
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A: Do you want to watch a musical?? Play in traffic?? I mean, you can do whatever you want now.
B: I want to chop my fucking tits off.
A: B, I only have five dollars.
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A: they thought I was the spawn of Satan
B: oh no, that's me
A: they incorrectly thought i was the spawn of Satan
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A: I’d be straight for Jesus *processes*
A: *jumps out of a window*
Literally everyone: WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS
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A: Why are you like this
B: it’s the religious trauma :)
Beat
B: OH DO YOU HAVE IT TOO
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Backup drummer Steve and lead singer Eddie swap places during a televised interview perfomance after theyre told theyre not allowed to actually play live.
Instead, they're supposed to fake playing while a backtrack plays, and in revenge for this bs Corroded Coffin decides to make it obvious theyre not actually playing ( a la the time the band Muse did this exact thing cause that's where I got this from lmao)
They're scheduled to interview the frontman after, and while Eddie tells Steve the ruse will end at this point, he actually walks off stage with Jeff and Grant and leaves Steve to flail his way through the interview.
Which he does, but in revenge Steve gives increasingly ridiculous answers and lore about the other members of the band.
The fans love it. The fact Steve's not even the regular drummer (which is Gareth) becomes a massive in-joke. People regularly quote some of Steve's more unhinged answers and show up with t shirts with Steve's face on it and regularly demand he "sing."
(Muse did this swap as well, for anyone wondering, though obviously it was the actual drummer giving the interview and I'm sure he knew ahead of time LOL)
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I’m just spinning q!bbh in my mind rn I’ve got theories and analysis and bits of it are a stretch and it is rambly and long so it’s going under a cut but here we go XD
Everything he’s done since the eggs were taken has been so incredibly deliberate and he developed this plan when he was in the depths of the greatest despair. According to what he told Baghera today, he developed this plan before the anger stream when he lava cast the presidential office as that was part of the plan to draw out the workers.
So Bad blatantly lying and gaslighting and just being incredibly suspicious to everyone today feels deliberate. It feels like he’s intentionally burning these bridges. The whole gun debacle is a great example of this. I saw a post that suspected bbh took Ron to test Baghera and her loyalty to him by doing something he knows she’d disapprove of and while I don’t think that’s why he took Ron, I defiantly think that’s part of it.
The whole gun thing I feel is Bad’s test for Forever. Bad has lied to his face and changed the story so many times that even when Bad tells him the truth Forever doesn’t care. I think Bad is intentionally pushing Forever just like he is Baghera. He’s pushing him to see what it would take for Forever to cut ties. It’s brutal and is actively hurting Forever just like how Baghera was hurt learning what Bad had done to Ron.
Bad feels no guilt for what he’s done to Ron. All he cares about is what others would think of his actions. He knows what he’s doing is “wrong” but he doesn’t care. Such black and white morality is beneath him. He’s doing what he thinks is necessary.
And that includes his own self destruction. He is testing all of these relationships knowing full well that he might destroy them. He knows Baghera is so much more moral than him and has such a higher value of life so he intentionally showed her something that would shatter her perception of him. Bad knows that trust is very important to forever so he intentionally lies and gaslights him knowing full well that Forever may never trust him again.
Bad created this plan when he was at his lowest point. On an average day, Bad’s value of his own life is nonexistent. He designed a plan to uncover how the federation spies on them knowing full well that it could turn everyone against him. That sure sounds familiar doesn’t it? Bad’s proposed this exact same plan under different circumstances(“joining” the feds to make them worse so everyone revolts against them inspired by his building inspector bit”). He doesn’t care about himself and is willing to throw himself to the wolves and make everyone hate him if it means defeating the federation and getting their children back. Previously, bad never went through with the plan because he wasn’t as desperate but now… during the depths of his grief after the kids were stolen, there was nothing holding him back from complete self annihilation.
I think Tubbo discovering/catching on to bbh’s kidnapping put a hitch in Bad’s plans because now his tests for others are being influenced by an outside variable he can’t control, that’s why he spent the whole day doing damage control. He’s trying to spin the story in such a way that he’s still somewhat in control of the situation. He knows that the cats out of the bag. Everyone is going to suspect him now so what does he do? He spends the day making himself even more suspicious. He admitted to torturing foolish in the past. He admitted to imprisoning forever during the happy pills arc. He admitted to planning on abducting a player in the future. He’s making himself look so much more guilty.
Everything he does is with intent. What could be the intent here? He’s told several people that he wants to be arrested so he has access to the federation prisons/facilities. He’s told several people that he is capable of kidnapping/torturing someone. He denies he’s guilty of Ron’s disappearance while simultaneously making himself look guilty. Is he trying to push the federation? To see if they actually will arrest him? All fingers point to bbh and the federation knows this - they basically say so in the journals Tubbo found. But they continue doing nothing. The workers are warned to stay away from him at all costs but… why wouldn’t they just arrest him? They’ve done so to others for less. That’s the question I want Tubbo to be asking. He’s smart enough to realize there’s something off here. Yes bad has a guy in his basement but why hasn’t the federation done anything about it?
Maybe that’s Bad’s test for Tubbo. Bad knows Tubbo is fiercely intelligent and that he can’t bullshit has way past him so he gave Tubbo so much. Yes there was a lot of bullshit but Bad intentionally gave Tubbo more ammunition against him. Is that Bad’s test? If Tubbo finds proof that Bad has Ron in his basement and the federation continues not to act, will that clear Tubbo of suspicion in his eyes? Tubbo knows the worker Bad is trying to find, is Bad giving Tubbo a chance to unknowingly prove himself by uncovering Bad’s secret? “Has anyone ever told you your too smart for your own good, Tubbo?” It sounded like a threat but it could have been an invitation.
Fred has become an incredibly important npc and I have a feeling he is the key to unlocking the mysteries of the eggs and the great evil. I’m pretty sure he’s the one in the radio transmission that talks about why the eggs disappeared and Ron said he overheard Fred talking about the evil. Fred knows so much more than he lets on and one way or another, the players are gonna find out.
I’m also fascinated by Bad’s conversation with Bagi about Boo. Only after Bagi confessed to telling Forever about the secret did Bad put in his clipboard that she passed the test. We’ll how did she pass the test? She told someone about his secret. We’ll, she came clean about it. She told someone she thought was Bad’s best friend then admitted it. She wasn’t trying to go behind his back and thus was trustworthy. However, as the day went on and Bagi learned about Ron, this changed. Her perception of Bad changed and Bad updated his notes about her in response. She went from trustworthy to sometimes trustworthy to be careful what you tell her. She still passed the test but the level of trust dropped dramatically - which is so fascinating.
At the end of it, I think… through all of this, Bad is gonna burn all his bridges in order to find the eggs and destroy the federation. He’s accepted that at this point. He was so dismissive of Baghera’s concerns for Ron and Bad and almost felt like he was placating her, just telling her what she wanted to hear. If Baghera interferes with Ron, I don’t think Bad will accept that and he would sacrifice their relationship to continue his plans. If anything, I could see him releasing Ron into Baghera’s hands only to capture Fred in his place - and this time he wouldn’t tell a soul.
Just the sudden switch in attitude when everyone triggered his radar was palpable. “Get out of my house or die” he was so furious that this test had been interrupted but he masked it while with baghera. When Bad went flying into the hall of grim shouting at everyone to get out and attacking them mercilessly, you could feel the rage (part of that was the lore secrets being accidentally revealed but still) the entire visit with Ron was a performance for both Ron and Baghera and I feel so bad for Baghera because she’s in an impossible position.
She wants to be there for Bad she wants to support him but this… this is so far beyond what she is willing to excuse from him. This has crossed so many lines but there isn’t any turning back. She doesn’t want to lose Bad either through breaking his trust or being taken by the federation but at the same time she can’t stand by and do nothing. She needs to help him. Unfortunately, that means it’s highly likely Bad will end up immolating their friendship if she pushes too hard.
And just the way Bad acts around Ron is so fascinating. It’s all a performance. The large furnished home. The fridge full of food. The fish. The weird attachment Bad shows - almost a reverse Stockholm syndrome - while simultaneously talking over/for Ron in such a dehumanizing way. It’s so fascinating in the moments when the mask falls away. When Bad was watching Baghera talk to Ron - idk if it was just me - but I felt like Bad was a hawk observing it’s prey. He plays up the sugary sweetness and dependence but he still feels like a tiger prowling the bars of his cage eyeing the snacks on the other side. It’s the way he moves and what he choosss to look at during these scenes idk bbh’s body language is insane and I could devote an entire essay to analyzing it
Like Bad’s stream title before he started stream, there are only two sides. Either ur with him or against him and the only thing he values is finding the eggs and tearing down the federation. He doesn’t care if everyone grows to hate him. He doesn’t care if he grows to hate himself. There are no lines he won’t cross. It’s all worth it. It’s all inevitable.
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