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tenebraevesper · 1 year
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Not So Different (Sonic and Shadow’s Interactions With Metal Sonic)
After listening to Sonic_Speed’s podcast regarding Sonic the Hedgehog IDW, in particular Issue #12: The Cost of The Battle For Angel Island, I came to a little realization. Apparently, both Sonic and Shadow tried to convince Metal Sonic to defect from Eggman and live his own life at some point.
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You’ll see what I mean, but first - a recap.
After his defeat as Master Overlord, Metal Sonic is beaten up. Sonic has Tails fix him (weapons deactivated, obviously) and they wake Metal Sonic up.
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Metal Sonic attempts to attack Sonic, but he’s not in any shape to fight. Sonic then tells Metal how the fight is over, and with Eggman gone, Metal can now live his life on his own; be his own person, or robot. He isn’t asking him to be best friends, but he wants to call a truce and co-exist peacefully.
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Metal Sonic is taken aback, stares at Sonic for a moment, then just slaps his hand away and rushes out, his answer being a clear “No”. I had been talking about this, but to keep it short, Sonic sees Metal as a person, not just a weapon of destruction and he really wants Metal to live his life without being Eggman’s enforcer.
This isn’t the first time someone tried to give a chance to Metal Sonic, as Shadow did the same way before:
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This takes place in Sonic Universe Issue #1: Living Weapons, with Shadow referencing the events that took place during Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie) Issue #195: Hedgehog Havoc (Part 1) and Issue #196: Hedgehog Havoc (Part 2), as well as Sonic X, Issue #40: The End.
During their tussle, they end up in the Sol Dimension, Blaze’s world, with Shadow trying to talk to Metal Sonic. He calls him a thinking machine, a living weapon, just like himself, but he believes that there is more to Metal Sonic and that he shouldn’t let Doctor Eggman use him.
Metal Sonic’s response to this is to kick him on the head and hoping he’d drown. Once again, the answer is a clear “No”. Honestly, I really love the parallels here, and this little conversation even continues later on.
In Sonic IDW, Sonic once again addresses Metal Sonic in Issue #26: All Or Nothing (Part 1):
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At this point, the Metal Virus has consumed the whole world, and Sonic and his friends (and Eggman and Metal) are on Angel Island, trying to find a way to save it. Sonic is frustrated at Metal Sonic for not following his advice to abandon Eggman. He saw him as someone similar to Omega and Gemerl, and it irks him that Metal just had to go back to Eggman.
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Eggman overhears this conversation and tells Sonic that, no matter what he did, Metal was programmed to seek battle and conquest, so Metal wouldn’t have taken Sonic’s advice no matter what, even if Eggman wasn’t around to restore Metal Sonic.
Meanwhile, in Sonic Universe, Shadow has met Blaze and Marine, getting himself involved in another battle with Metal Sonic:
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He once again tries to appeal to Metal Sonic, saying how it doesn’t have to be this way and believes that Metal was just being led astray by Eggman. He wants Metal to put behind his past as a weapon and help Shadow save the world.
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Metal responds that, just like Shadow’s function is to protect his world, Metal Sonic’s function is to serve Eggman and nothing is going to change that, which is why he will destroy Shadow.
I think it’s really fascinating that at some point, both Shadow and Sonic tried to take the same approach in convincing Metal Sonic to do good instead of follow Eggman’s orders. Both fail, but it’s the thought that counts.
Also, before you go telling me how I shouldn’t be comparing Archie!Shadow and IDW!Sonic since it’s two different continuities, note that they’re both written by the same writer, Ian Flynn, and Archie!Shadow is basically 06!Shadow before Sega started to get stricter with their mandates.
So, yeah, both have failed in their attempts to redeem Metal Sonic, but amazingly, they actually manage to convince a different Eggman robot to turn their life around:
Shadow with Omega in Sonic Universe Issue #3: Old Soldiers...
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...and Sonic with Mecha Sonic in the Scrapnik Island Miniseries Issue #4: Scrapnik Island (Part 4).
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Honestly, it is quite fascinating. I guess Sonic and Shadow are not so different after all.
#Sonic the Hedgehog Analyzer (Masterlist)
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I will never stop talking about this issue. This is the one that got me to be like "Holy shit, I wanna keep an eye on this character"
This is what started getting me wanting to do a character analysis on her
As I'm binge reading for final notes on her character I cannot stress enough how much the story can portray grief and breakdowns.
Just- ugh good job those who made this issue I cannot stress how much this one is in my top 5
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You know around the end of season 2 I just let my head run with situations about Sonic, despite knowing Nine is his enemy now, still not letting him come to any harm at the hands of anyone from the shatterverse, and I thought I was stretching it too far, that there was noooo way the show would do something like that.
But lo and behold exactly that happened and I've been losing it since whenever thinking abt it!!
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Just, the last episode in particular.
Back where it all began Sonic and Nine, fighting in the workshop, Sonic on the defensive, Nine on the offensive. But this time he was way less composed, attacks wild and running on pure instinct and blind rage. He's fed up with Sonic to the point he doesn't even bother with acknowledging the other noticed the palm trees, he doesn't realize that sonic finaly undertsnds. It's simply too late for that, Nine doesn't care anymore, he just wants him to fucking shut up, to stop spouting lies, to stop trying to trick him into compliance. Because that's all Sonic's been doing up until this point really(from Nine's pov anyway), trick and betray him, beat him, and then feign softness just to repeat the cycle again, sowly chipping at his sanity. And there's only so much of that a literal child can take. (Yea I just get fucking run over by a truck when this realization hits. That's a god damn KID going mad with the powers of gods)
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Then their fight gets rudely interuppted by a wall exploding and in comes everyone ever, lead by Shadow resident vibchecker of twin tailed foxes the hedgehog.
They want to hurt him, oh boy its written all over their faces, and Nine definitely finds that scene painfully familiar.
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Hes has been caught off guard, cornered and outnumbered, exhausted from the constant usage of the prism and also from the emotional strain Sonic kept putting him through.
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Than he's made aware of how much damage he's actually caused during his rampage and all fight immiditely leaves him, because there's nothing left to fight for. He destroyed it all, he lost.
Nine's alone, defensless, with no way to escape and at the mercy of people who hate him. Something he lived through way too many times, not even that many years ago.
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Except unlike all those times in the past, Sonic was there to defend and protect him. He brought Nine back down to earth and gave him one last chance, even after no one else would.
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Despite everything Nine did, despite how angry and desperate Sonic got, he always held out hope for Nine, always stepped in when someone pushed the fight on the fox way too much(looking at you Renegade). Because he was the only other person that knew and cared about what Nine went through, because he finnaly understood the core motivation behind Nine's actions, and because he wanted to set things right between them once and for all.
Looking like Tails or not, cosmic truth or not, that's a child that needed to be shown love above all else, that much Sonic knew and held by.
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myymi · 4 months
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i want to talk about the paradox prism for a minute because it's really interesting to me
[everything below is purely speculation / headcanon - please don't mistake it for canon. beware of spoilers for sonic prime part 3]
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similar to the master/chaos emeralds, the paradox prism has a level a sentience. not anywhere close to the same level as the emeralds, but there's still something there
the chaos emeralds tend to set up a line of dominos to cause a future event (ex; sonic taking tails under his wing and learning to become more responsible from it)
the paradox prism doesn't do anything close to that, but it does share something with the master emerald; it holds memories
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the prism was able to create more versions of the people it saw based on the emotions it saw them project (tails, knuckles, amy, rouge, and eggman)
the different shards / shatterspaces are made up from other major events. whether from this timeline or another is different for each shatterspace
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new yoke was created from the group's frustration with sonic + an ending where eggman's almost won (i believe this could be pulled from the events of forces, considering the enforcers)
i think the reason new yoke is the only shatterspace to have a version of eggman is because it's the only one that makes sense to have one
it's pretty well known by now that eggman will need a helping hand if he wants any chance at taking over the world
the only thing better than an evil genius is five evil geniuses, right?
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the new yoke group are, as i said, everyone's frustration
nine is frustrated with his past. reminiscing about his tormentors brings him more anger than pain, and living in solitude definitely does not help
rebel and knux are frustrated by the loss of their home (and the egg council in general). having watched their home be destroyed was more heartbreaking than anything at first, it eventually grew to an anger that spurred them on to fix it
rusty is frustrated with those who disobey/fight against the council, but her anger eventually ends up directed towards the council for the way they used her.
i could go more in depth about the new yoke group, but this post is gonna be long enough as is wefoefwof
the shard being red could simply be because that's the color that represents anger, but i'd like to think that-going back to forces-it was a bit influenced by the phantom ruby/infinite as well
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no place is formed by the underlying sadness + a devastating event that permanently changed the world (chaos' rampage)
im not connecting no place to chaos because of the fact it's flooded, im connecting it because of the way the stories parallelled
chaos' rampage begun when pachacamac attempted to steal and harness the power of the chaos emeralds for his own gain
dread seeks out the 'devil's ligthouse' solely to prove he is a legend, nearly killing his original crew trying to do so
both protagonists of these stories are selfish and caused destruction for their own gain
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dread's, well, dread comes from his failure of proving himself to be the most feared pirate to ever live.
him failing to collect the shard caused him to believe that he truly wasn't a good pirate, leaving him to spiral into a life of cowardice.
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the rest of the pirates' dread comes from their longing to be actual pirates.
because of his failure and cowardice, dread now leads a peaceful crew. they don't do any 'pirating', which leaves much to be desired
they enjoy the parties and all, but their true fun comes from being pirates, which dread deprives them of
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boscage maze comes from the protectiveness surging between everyone + a world where harmony between enemies is possible to achieve (possibly comes from a timeline where eggman simply doesnt exist, leaving mobius to grow peacefully)
boscage is the shatterspace with the most life. it's full of all kinds of plants because nobody there is destroying it (intentionally, anyways)
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thorn rose is protective over birdie and the green. she does what she can to protect both, even if it means hurting people she once called friends
keeping the jungle and birdie safe is her #1 priority, and nothing will ever change that (that's not to say something else can't join them in being her priority)
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the scavengers are protective over their belongings and, no matter how strangely they show it, each other
gnarly was nervous when sonic touched his house, immediately turning aggressive to make sure he wouldn't damage it
instead of hiding the berry, prim showed it to the others for a chance they could all share it
instead of running off on his own, mangey let the scavengers follow him as he sniffed out the berry (+ him fetching the one that fell off the treetops, showing it off to the group)
hangry allows mangey to crawl around him, which we can assume means it happens a lot off screen as well
they stick together and cover each other's backs, no matter how hard the fight gets
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while we don't know what this shatterspace was before it turned into the grim, it's pretty safe to assume that it was apocalyptic
who or whatever used to live here is long gone. the only thing standing are the purple crystal things.
my guess is it's a timeline where eggman won. he won, and the world died out because he ruined the ecosystem from building so many machines.
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while purple is usually associated with royalty or mystery, it's also associated with power, ambition, peace, and independence
whatever happened to the world before the grim, it's very probable that it was out of high ambition with a need for more power. eventually, the world found its peace and is now independent
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ghost hill is the blueprint. the time before sonic & co. make their mark on the world. a blank canvas.
maybe a timeline where they don't get a chance to make their mark on the world
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yellow is a very light, energetic color. the feeling of happiness at the chance to create something new and fun.
ghost hill and the grim don't have much in terms of characters and design, but i think the colors of their respective shards give us plenty of information about them
the paradox prism is nothing like the chaos emeralds, but is also just like them at the same time. it's powered by pure chaos with no sort of indication on how it was created or why it has the powers it does
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i wonder if eggman knew what the prism was exactly or if he only knew that it was powerful
did he know breaking it would cause the world to shatter? did he know how may memories it holds? how many lifetimes it's lived?
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i also wonder if the prism knew sonic would shatter it, and that it was already preparing the shatterspaces; hence why it glows brighter
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maybe it understood that sonic is a hands-on learner. maybe it knew he needed to experience the lessons first hand, needed them to-quite literally-slap him in the face
maybe it knew they all had their own flaws that they needed to be aware of. maybe it lived through the timeline where sonic never shattered the prism.
maybe the prism planned to be shattered by someone so it could share its memories. maybe there was some sort of pull that told sonic it needed to be shattered.
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the-sky-queen · 5 months
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One thing I love is how complicated Shadow’s relationship with Gerald was. This man brought Shadow into the world. He gave him life. They spent quite a lot of time together. Gerald trusted Shadow enough to leave him with the responsibility to save the Earth from the Black Arms. He put everything he had into Shadow.
But then you take a step back. Gerald also had to experiment on Shadow a lot. A lot of Shadow’s Ark trauma probably stems from Gerald, not just Maria’s death. When Gerald lost his mind, all sympathy for Shadow went out the window. Gerald manipulated Shadow’s memories to serve his own purposes of revenge. Shadow became just a tool to him. This had a massive impact on Shadow.
I see Shadow as constantly warring with himself over what he thinks of Gerald. Does he hate him? Does he forgive him? Shadow doesn't even know, and I love that. There's no clean cut answer.
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000marie198 · 2 months
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Sonic is the most morally ambiguous character in the Sonic franchise
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oddogoblino · 9 months
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Sonic Prime Theory
(TLDR at the bottom)
Prime Sonic isn't usually a hugger or rude and never was before the events in the show, he's just so stressed and trying to cope with what he's done that he's mentally trying to replicate how his friends behave to somewhat pretend they're still around. He hugs Nine because Tails would hug him sometimes. When he split up somewhat with the prism, he wasn't becoming different Sonics, he was mimicking how he views his friends. He's not a hugger and usually would hate hugs, but he can't help but resort to this after seeing different versions of his friends but not the real deals anywhere. He hugs Shadow because that's the only piece of his friends he has left and he's just been tossed around from many of his friends who werent...them.
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Without his real friends, he feels like he's missing something and it's unbearable to him and he hasn't addressed it yet. He's projecting, he's joking around, he's getting easily agitated (and thus quick to ruder remarks), he's shaking and struggling to breathe, and he's trying to ground himself by becoming what he feels his friends are like to try and make things feel more normal. But he's not them. He'll never be them, because he only knows his pov of them and doesn't think like them, so it's not working for him and just making him slip up more. Shadow is the only one who can ground him here as one of the pieces to sonic's sense of reality and he can't even be in constant contact with him, he can't always talk to him while in the other worlds like he could with Nine for a good portion of S2.
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Sonic is trying his best to keep being the Sonic he usually was, the one many know him to be, but he can't even catch a second to process what he's going through and he's snapping a little because the shatterspace was made practically adapted to his mind, including what hurts him most deep down. Like cmon, it can't be a coincidence that he is afraid of/hates water and then we get an entire world where it's all water and everything he loved about his home is submerged where his distaste of water won't let him reach. The shatterspace trying to do exactly what Sonic did to the paradox prism, shattering/breaking him.
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TLDR: Sonic isn't taking how different each variant of his friends are to his og friends very well, so to cope, he's subconsciously mimicking their og behaviors (like being more affectionate) to try and fill that void/sense that something is missing as he goes along in the show. Getting rude/more reckless bc he's freaking out.
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icearts · 2 months
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The True Ending of Shadow the Hedgehog was so meaningful, especially the Eggman dialogue where he tells Shadow the truth and calls him the Ultimate Lifeform. Eggman just got done watching one of the last recordings his grandfather made before he lost everything and went insane, and it was him revealing the truth to Shadow as a potential last resort to prevent the destruction from the earth (back when he still loved the planet). Eggman saw this and wanted to uphold that legacy by using what he thought may be his last words to tell the truth to Shadow as well. That's some strong writing, despite it being buried under layers of bad reputation for the game.
Plus Knuckles continuously trying to reassure Shadow to keel fighting and to not worry about them is a solid moment for him, as Shadow is taking on the duty as a guardian and he knows that priorities are important there.
Rouge also had a moment after the fight where she says she hopes Shadow's okay (last time he went Super, he literally died) and Amy is certain he's fine. This is also a good Amy moment because her hunches are never wrong. The girl can practically predict the future and I'm guessing she could also detect some of his energy releasing the super form safe inside the Ark.
Shadow the Hedgehog had good final writing. All the characters had small, shining moments that doesn't seem like much from an outside perspective, but those little dialogue lines in the Final Story are exactly how I can see Ian Flynn choosing to characterize everyone from now on.
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pocketscribbs · 9 months
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art style check:
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he got scrunklier
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tenebraevesper · 2 months
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Isekai'd As My Past Self (Sonic the Hedgehog AU Story)
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Being a fan of Isekai Anime (currently watching Villainess Level 99: I May Be the Hidden Boss but I'm Not the Demon Lord), I think it was inevitable for me to come up with a story like this.
However, before I start with the actual premise of the story, I first want to explain the setting though. This story is based on the trope of the main character dying or getting executed in some way, only to reincarnate as their past self (think along the lines of 7th Time Loop: The Villainess Enjoys A Carefree Life Married To Her Worst Enemy!), but with the caveat of having all of their future self's memories.
In this case, the story's starting point would be Archie Sonic's Mobius: 25 Year Later and Mobius: 30 Years Later storyline, with the main characters featured being King Sonic and King Shadow - or rather, their past selves before the events that led into 25YL/30YL took place. Silver would also be a major character in this due to his time-travelling shenanigans.
Before I dive into the plot properly, I will leave a warning here. If you read my previous analysis in regards to this storyline, King Shadow (The Altered Future & The Altered Character) & King Shadow (The Alternate Story), you would know that I don't like 25YL/30YL at all and therefore, I'm planning on not only deconstruct it, but completely destroy it in this AU story.
So, if you are a fan of the 25YL/30YL, the King Sonic storyline or the Sonally pairing, I'm recommending you to NOT read this AU story. If you do read it regardless of my warnings, don't come crying into the comments about how much you hate it. There is a reason I have warned you at the start and I'm not pulling any punches with this one.
With that said, let's dive into this story, and if you are curious about the additional text, it is the translated lyrics of the opening song of Villaines Level 99, titled LOVE or HATE?, which I was listening to while writing the story (the links lead to the TV Version and Full Version respectively). Honestly, if this were an anime, I'd probably use that song as it's theme song.
The Future
For example, if I let my hair sway a little
Will the voice I hear be LOVE or HATE?
Do whatever you like, no matter what they say
I won't stop walking
The story starts out sometime after the Sonic Universe Issue #5-#8. Take note, Mobius: X Years Later is, going by Pre-SGW canon, a possible ''What if'' future, not the canon future of Pre-SGW canon, which means that the events leading up to it were probably different than what we saw in later parts of Pre-SGW, but the timeline itself would probably similar enough.
The main focus would be on King Sonic, who is actually quite unhappy and bored with his life as the King of Light Mobius, thinking back to his past adventures and longing for the freedom he had, which is basically the core aspect of his character.
Before anyone starts arguing about why Sonic would be unhappy with his current life, take note that he actually expressed unhappiness in canon, specifically saying how he is not fit to be King, with Sally outright dismissing his feelings on the matter. Admittedly, this was also written by Ken Penders, who has no clue how Sonic works as a character and despite raising an interesting character point, quickly drops it like a hot potato.
Still, it is the one line I 100% agree with - Sonic is not fit to be a King.
This is why this AU story exists, as I want to dive in further into Sonic's thoughts on being a King. There would even be one event where another villain appears and King Sonic springs into action, only for Sally to literally stop him in his tracks, pointing out how he has other people that can handle this (this being a callback to a similar argument they had in Issue #134, where Sally basically told Sonic that he shouldn't throw himself in danger, especially since he's her consort and that they have other people fighting for them, meaning Sonic should stay by her side and rule with her - with Sonic refusing).
This is a similar case, with the addition of Sally telling him how he's the King and that he needs to think of his family and his people, how he can't go fighting like this since he's not anymore in his prime, and so on. All of which are valid points, but go against Sonic's core character.
King Sonic would obviously want to do the smart thing and keep Sally happy, but at the same time, wonders if it's really selfish that he also wants to be free from all of his duties as the King and go back to his adventuring lifestyle. Whether he wants to admit it or not, he has come to regret becoming King in the first place, but now that he made his choice, he cannot escape it.
As King Sonic thinks about this, he learns that King Shadow is back once again to cause chaos and, with other characters being conveniently absent, he goes to confront him despite Sally's wishes. King Sonic learns that King Shadow is on the search of some Mystical McGuffin Crystal (placeholder name, think of it like the Paradox Prism from Sonic Prime) that would help him once again to assert his rule over Light Mobius (as he tried to do with Tikhaos previously).
The two end up in a battle, with the Fake King Shadow sneering at King Sonic for not standing up to him and wondering where Sonic's fighting spirit had gone. This is the last straw for King Sonic and he tackles Fake King Shadow into the Paradox Crystal (not very imaginative, but hey, better than the actual placeholder name), causing it to shatter and the two getting engulfed in a bright light before everything around them turns dark.
The Past
Unstoppable news
They'll forget it tomorrow
Today is better than yesterday
Believing leads to a big victory
Sonic awakens suddenly, standing on a stage surrounded by the royal family and the people of the Acorn Kingdom. He is in a daze, wondering what had happened, with the first thing he notices is that he is much younger, being a teenager once again, and wonders if his battle with King Shadow and the whole Light Mobius future was just a dream.
He is then suddenly addressed by Sally, who asks him to finally make their engagement official to the public, but Sonic, still confused and baffled, and unable to comprehend what had just happened, just utters the following:
''No... I need... Shadow.''
He then leaps off the stage and quickly runs off to find the Faker and get the answer in regards to what had happened.
He eventually finds Shadow, who is equally baffled by what had just happened, although he managed to get an understanding of the situation faster than Sonic, and the two get into another fight, just to take out their frustrations on each other.
During the battle, they come to the conclusion that they somehow time-traveled back into the past, awakening as their younger selves right before the events that would set up the Light Mobius story had happened. In this past, they had just a major victory against Dr. Eggman and, as part of the celebration, Sonic and Sally, who had just made up and started dating again, wanted to make their engagement once again official - at least until Sonic ran off to find Shadow.
In other words, while one could argue that they pulled a Silver, this isn't a situation where they can just change the past and travel back to their own future. Instead, they got the opportunity to relive their past while also having the memories of their future selves. In other words, they are free to do whatever they want with the knowledge they have.
As they process this realization, Sonic accuses Shadow of becoming a tyrant again, and Shadow responds how the only reason he had done that was because even after Dr. Eggman was gone, other villains attempted to take over his place as the Big Bad and Shadow was the one who dealt with them to ensure peace. Had he gone too far in his mission? He did, but he felt that there was no other option for him left. There was power vacuum and he filled it by becoming a tyrant.
Sonic also realizes that, with him being back in the past as his younger self, he also got his own wish granted. He is not King Sonic anymore and he could easily go back to the adventuring he always wanted, enjoying the second chance, the freedom he had been granted. At the same time, he feels guilty because this would mean that the future he knows might not exist anymore, and it is through his own fault, even if he doesn't know the details.
Therefore, Sonic's main inner conflict here would be that he is torn between his desire for freedom and the duty he had towards the Acorn Kingdom as the future King, while Shadow's inner conflict would be his desire to protect the world through any means necessary and whether he should temper his more violent and cruel tendencies.
To make things more complicated, they are suddenly joined by Silver, who came from his own future to inform them about a looming danger that is threatening to tear up reality, with Sonic and Shadow realizing that they're responsible for this and have to work together now to fix their mistake.
This would be the main premise of the story.
The Present
Sync with the rhythm
I want to be swaying
But the outsiders are noisy
Noise canceling
As the story resumes, further details are revealed about Sonic and Shadow's current situation and the true nature of the shattered Paradox Crystal.
Through Silver's investigation, they learn that he Paradox Crystal was a powerful artifact that had the power of bending time and space by granting the user their innermost desires. This explains why Sonic and Shadow have returned back to the past as their younger selves, as Sonic's desire was to have his freedom back, while Shadow's desire was to have the power to protect the world in his own way. Not only that, but the shattering of the Crystal had also tampered with Sonic's own Chaos Energy, putting him in a similar state of agelessness as Shadow, which would allow Sonic to always remain in his prime so he could protect people and keep the world safe.
The three hedgehogs also learn that, before Sonic and Shadow, there was a different Entity that sought out the Paradox Crystal, but got trapped inside it and the Crystal getting shattered released it, which resulted in the Entity gaining the power to slowly fracture reality. To fix this mess, Sonic and Shadow would need to find the pieces of the Crystal that have scattered across the world like the Dragon Balls and bring them together. The reason why it is them who have to do this is, aside from personal responsibility, they're the ones among very few people who can actually detect and handle the Crystal's power and presence.
Sonic is excited to go on this adventure, only to get startled by a furious Sally calling for him and promptly hiding behind Shadow, as he doesn't want to confront Sally's wrath, yet. Shadow, in response, just rolls his eyes, while Silver is confused about what is going on. Basically, by Sonic saying ''No'' and running off earlier, Sally believed that she got shot down again and wants to give him a ''What the hell, dude?!'' speech about Sonic not caring about her feelings or even thinking about the situation for that matter.
Sonic attempts to explain himself, but is interrupted by Shadow, who tells Sally that reality is in danger and that's why Sonic ran off. This way, he also stops Sonic from accidentally revealing that he has memories of his future self, later explaining to Sonic that he doesn't really trust Sally with using any of that information. He points out that, while she can be proactive, when he started his tyrannical rule, she literally did nothing to undermine him, meaning that she still lacks some of decisiveness on her part.
Sally figures that, if things are that bad, then they should call the Freedom Fighters for help, although she would also have to discuss the matter with the Council of Acorn, as per the current rules, they cannot really act without getting the Council's approval.
Sonic, having enough of the Acorn Kingdom's politics and bureaucracy, decides to set out on his own, with only Shadow as his companion. He refuses to be anymore under the control of the government, be it the King or the Council, making the decision to work on his own.
He is here to protect them, not to be controlled by them, and if they don't like it, he can leave. He can do more good for the world if he doesn't have to wait to be told what he is supposed to do.
While there would be people protesting against this decision, Sonic and Shadow are already off on their adventure, traveling all over the world for the Crystal Shards Sonic Unleashed-style.
They would also face several opponents who would want the Crystal Shards for themselves, like Dr. Eggman, Ixis Naugus and Geoffrey St. John, and Scourge and the Destructix (perhaps even meeting Anti-Shadow and Anti-Silver if they have to travel to Moebius).
Oh, and one more thing - the engagement with Sally is off.
The Freedom Of Choice
For example, if I trace my finger a little
Will your choice be LOVE or HATE?
Do whatever you like, make your cheeks turn red
And spitting, boy
As I had mentioned before, the main inner conflict for Sonic would be the choice he would make in shaping his own future.
The expectations from people in-universe, as well as the reader, would obviously be that Sonic follows all the steps that leads up to the Light Mobius future (e.g. marrying Sally and becoming King), as that is the selfless thing to do, something that is expected from the main hero. Set right what was done wrong and follow the path to the anticipated happy ending.
But, is that really the ending that would make Sonic happy? This is a question Shadow would ask Sonic, wondering if he would really be happy to stay at one place, figuratively shackled to the duties of a King and abandoning who he is at his core.
In this story, Sonic would ultimately refuse to give up his freedom.
He will admit that, in the previous timeline, he did it to make Sally happy, but not himself. As a matter of fact, that was something everyone expected him to do, as they were the power couple and all that stuff, and he tried not to look back on the ''What If''. For him, there was no ''What if''.
However, now that he got a second chance, he decides to be selfish and do something for himself, especially when he experiences this sense of freedom once again by travelling all over the world, meeting new people and go on adventures.
The future itself is regarded as a huge ''What If''. Sonic has already experienced a future where he is the King and he wasn't happy about it. The question is, should he continue sacrificing his own happiness for the sake of others or actually be a bit selfish for his own sake? He doesn't even know how he ended up back as his younger self, so is he even allowed to change the present and the future? Would he be the villain because of that?
After all, it is not as if he would immediately return to the supposedly set Light Mobius future even if he fixed the Paradox Crystal. He was brought back to relive his past as he sees fit and he will be stuck in his teenage body with no way to jump into the future. So, either he can live through the whole experience again or just choose a different path.
Sonic would instead use the memories of his future self to help people, preventing any bad event flags from being triggered and protecting the world his own way. These changes in the present would obviously lead to the Light Mobius future not even being a possibility by default, allowing Sonic to live without regret.
Nevertheless, it won't be an easy choice to make and Sonic would keep doubting himself, which is why he would benefit from Shadow's presence.
Speaking of which...
The reason Shadow became a tyrant in the former timeline was to protect the world, ultimately losing himself in the process and feeding into his own delusions. When he returns to the past, he would still be in the mindset that he needs to protect the world by conquering it and eliminating any opposition. Sonic insists that he would be there to stop him, as he knows what Shadow is capable of.
Suddenly, Shadow gets furious, snapping at Sonic because the latter never saw just how bad it got before Shadow took over as a tyrant. As stated before, there was a power vacuum when Dr. Eggman died, leading to many other villains trying to take over, which basically made this whole situation a world-wide Game of Thrones. Shadow had to take over, because if he didn't, things could've ended up much worse.
Shadow also admits that he understands that everyone hated him, but he had to choose the ''ends justify the means'' option because he felt that there was nothing else left. Sonic, having gained a better understanding of Shadow's motives, would stop their fight and make an offer instead. He would tell Shadow that they could protect the world together as a team, especially since they have knowledge of the future and can use that to their advantage. Shadow would accept his offer.
The part that follows would focus on Sonic and Shadow's adventures across the world, where they would from time to time be aided by their friends, but ultimately, the story would be about them working together and developing a strong bond.
Now, that bond can be purely platonic... but if you are in any way familiar with my blog, you should already know that this would spiral into a Sonadow story.
If you don't like the ship or aren't a shipper yourself, you are free to skip the next part and resume at LOVE or HATE Story.
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Sonic & Shadow - The Ultimate Duo
Differences in hobbies, differences in peace of mind
Even if I confuse you
My path is shaped by
Just LOVE or HATE
I'm certain that some don't like where this is going. Why should I write down such a story if one of its conclusions is a non-canonical ship? Well, if you still think the same, then you seriously should have skipped this part.
I had stated before that the story focuses on the concept of freedom and what it means to Sonic, and in this case, this choice would split off into three different paths. The first path would be following the set story, leading into the Light Mobius Future, aka the one this story will avoid. The second path follows a simple adventure plot, albeit going against the beliefs and expectations of the reader, with everyone gaining a happy, but platonic ending, which is where non-shippers should've stopped their read.
The natural conclusion would be that the third path follows the Sonadow Ending.
As stated above, in this path, Sonic would ultimately choose freedom over duty, which would make him ending up with Sally impossible. If he marries her, he becomes King and the Light Mobius future happens, which he wants to avoid in this life. So, distancing himself from any romantic relationships that would result in him being tied down, without him having any say in it, would be the next logical step.
If Sally questions Sonic about their engagement, he would tell her something along the lines of having thought about their future together, and he cannot see it happening anymore. He knows that a future with Sally means a future without freedom, and he knows that, the way he is now, they're incompatible.
Yeah, Sally (and the Sonally shippers) wouldn't be happy about that. After all, their relationship works on the idea of ''Opposites Attract'', which is probably one of reasons why people find it appealing. No offense to those who like the ship, but the issue that I personally see here is that ''Opposites Attract'' cannot work if the two sides are too opposing to attract each other.
In other words, Pre-SGW!Sally is too devoted to her kingdom and people and has stated time and time again that she prefers to settle down once this whole deal with Eggman is over.
Sonic does not work like that.
Sure, maybe Pre-SGW!Archie!Sonic would work, but I'm certain that by now, you have noticed that I'm writing Sonic's character with his Game!Self's characteristics in mind (and some helpful suggestions from Ian Flynn in regards to how he would approach Sonic being in a relationship).
First and foremost, Sonic is free as the wind. He would not settle in one place, even if he would visit it just to see his friends. He would keep travelling. He is not fit to be King (or even a father for that matter, even if he would try his best). His strengths lie in being an adventurer and he wants to fully embrace this side of him over the course of the story.
It has been a repeated statement in the shipping community that if you want to pair Sonic up with someone, this person should be a character who wouldn't warp who Sonic is at his core, but be able to keep up with him and accept his lifestyle. I have seen a debate about Sonamy, and while I find the ship cute and agree that Amy is someone who works hard to be recognized by Sonic, she too would be someone who'd prefer to settle down rather than always be on the move.
This brings me to the only person who not only recognizes Sonic's adventurous spirit and desire for freedom, but has immense respect for him, is capable of not only keeping up with Sonic, but even get ahead of him, and even if they argue, it is clear that both have the same goal in mind, even if their methods differ.
Look, I was never interested in shipping, so if you want me to like a certain pairing, you need to really convince me that it works and that the characters have chemistry and a charm to them.
Sonadow does have that chemistry and charm that makes me go ''Yeah, these two actually work together well.''
As for Sonic and Shadow, this adventure would definitely explore just how well they click together. To note, both Sonally and Sonadow are a case of ''opposites attract'', but with Sonally, they're just too different to work properly, especially when one is chained to duty and the other desires freedom.
Meanwhile, Sonic and Shadow are literally two different sides of the same coin, both never really settling anywhere and driven by their desire to protect their world, even if their methods differ. Both easily balance each other out and even them arguing, or just talking for that matter, sounds like them flirting more often than not. The only thing that needs to be added to their existing relationship is them becoming more vulnerable and open around each other, as it doesn't change what they already have or who they already are.
By spending so much time with each other, they would eventually realize that they have something going on and decide whether they'll fully embrace it or not, especially given their initial reservations about being in a relationship.
Sonic doesn't want to be tied down by anyone or anything and fears that he might lose his freedom again, while Shadow would be anxious about getting this close to someone again due to his own fear of losing someone important to him.
However, considering who the person is they're attracted to, they would realize that there really isn't anything to fear. Shadow would not take Sonic's freedom away from him, and Sonic basically has Main Character Syndrome, so there is no chance that he would die easily, at least not without a fight, something Shadow is well aware of by now.
Not too sure about how their friends would react to them being together, although I'm certain that they would be supportive.
Well, most of them.
LOVE or HATE Story
I did not intend to go this much into detail with this AU Story (which I came up with in a day, mind you), but once I started writing down the idea, I couldn't stop. Sure, there is probably more to write, but I would then have to start the story properly to add even more details of events and interactions.
While I'm somewhat interested in writing this out, I know well that this would end up in a very long story, and I already have other projects I'm working on, so this will remain as just as an idea.
I am open to discussing this story and what else can be explored and I'm eager to hear your opinion on it. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
I simply wanted to put this out in the public to hear other people's thoughts on it. If you love the story, than I'm glad to hear it. If you hate the story, well... *shrugs* I had warned you that I'm not pulling any punches.
I'm curious about your response!
#Sonic the Hedgehog Analyzer (Masterlist)
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sonic-adventure-3 · 1 year
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“he roller skates!” “they’re air shoes.” is designed to kill me specifically because firstly that’s so fucking funny and the presentation and the line delivery is fucking amazing and also secondly shadow’s shoes are originally based on inline skates NOT roller skates (well technically inlines are a kind of roller skate but in a broader context “roller skates” are almost exclusively used to refer to quad skates. inlines have their wheels in a line, quads are quadragled) and his animation is 100% based on quad skating in prime BUT SHADOW IS AN INLINE SKATER ORIGINALLY HIS SHOES ARE BASED ON INLINE SKATES SA2 WOULD NOT EXIST WITHOUT INLINE SKATING I CARE IMMENSELY ABOUT THIS
#NOT EVEN JOKING ABOUT THE LAST BIT#THE GRINDING MECHANIC OF SA2 AND SOAP SHOES ARE BASED ON INLINE SKATES#PLUS ​THE CULTURAL CONTEXT OF THE TIME OF ITS DEVELOPMENT WOULDVE JUST BEEN CATCHING THE TAIL END OF THE ERA OF AGGRESSIVE INLINE SKATES#skateboarding but inline skating as well are crucial components to what sonic’s very personality and the tone/aesthetic of sonic adventure#also inline skating way way faster than quad skating#genuinely genuinely i’m not mad i’m not mad i’m not mad#prime is great this bit is great the animation of prime and shadow in prime is great shadow is great#i’m not even angry!! it’s such a good bit!!! it’s animated well! roller skates are more well known today!!!#BUT HAVE THEY CONSIDERED THAT I CARE IMMENSELY ABOUT SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG AND INLINE SKATES AND SHADOW ON INLINE SKATES?!? NO!!!#his animation in sa2 and heroes and shth is based on inline skating also#his animation in 06 is quad based but it also sucks complete ass so it doesn’t exist to me#most other skating animations of his are mid and i haven’t analyzed them enough to tell#theres a large grace area i give cause i don’t expect animations to be 100% accurate to real movements#plus the air shoes while based on inlines are their own thing and i think it’s nice when they embrace that#BUT FUCK QUAD SKATES#i don’t hate quad skates inlines are just cooler by an order of magnitude to me and them being the default makes me sad :(#rambles#prime#action sport posting#<- yeah. thats a tag. it will be used more in the future
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c4n1d43cup1d · 9 months
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shadow i drew to practice coloring normal colors + version w extra effect layers that u can barely tell are there
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sonicmusicmusings · 5 months
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Truly, it was only a matter of time before I came around to take a look at these insane boss battle tracks from Frontiers. Let's listen!
I really was not prepared to hear this when I came into this myself. Even listening back to this to review, I have a huge smile on my face. My first thought was "oh man, this fucking rules!" Kellin Quinn has some serious vocal chops and range, from gentle in the intro and outro, to the screams in the bridge breakdowns, to the absolute soaring vocals in the chorus. The minor 2nds are prominent for that dense, closed feeling in the verses, as well as the chunky comping as well. Where there's tension, there's release, as the chorus really opens up--vocal padding, the long melody notes, the more familiar bVI-bVII-Im sound to emphasize the power and triumph of the fight it goes along with. Not to mention the double bass pedal action and the shredding guitar...truly, this has it all!
This combined with the spectacle of the Super Sonic in these fights is nearly unmatched. I'm positive this is going to be a young/new Sonic fan's "Live and Learn" or "Open Your Heart" moment for the impression it leaves. It sure left one one me!
"I'm what you get when the stars collide, now face it, you're just an enemy..."
Requests are open!
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lymooniee · 3 months
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An analysis of the White Jungle scene in Sonic Adventure 2 (idk it's one of my fave moments and I can't shut up about it):
Before I really dive right into the scene of White Jungle, I think it's important to also address one prior scene that I'll add more onto later on as I explain. Sa2 is a game filled with layers because it was SEGA's last game on the dreamcast. They wanted to leave a major impact with this game due to that reason, from characterizations, music, game play and so on so forth. Team Darks story is imo more developed than the heroes, but that isn't to say that the heroes storyline isn't amazing or as good as the dark. I think it's just that SEGA had two new characters to use and with this being one of the first (and pretty much only) times we can actually use Eggman and see his side of things, they likely had a clean slate to adapt with.
When Shadow appears atop of Radical Highway's bridge, he has sudden flashbacks of Maria. It's when she's asking him to fulfill her promise, but it cuts out before it finishes. He believes her wish is to bring about revenge amongst humanity. As he does peer down amongst the police cars who are part of the military force, those who likely work under the government. He says "how pathetic," This line will be important for later on but we get the idea that he sees little value in the government and the lives of those who partake with any organization due to his trauma related with G.U.N on the ARK.
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Now I'll begin discussing on White Jungle and the impact it had when it comes to Shadow as a character. As Shadow is exploring the island after he sets the bomb timer for Eggmans plan, Rouge sends a message over to Shadow stating how she cannot call herself a treasurehunter anymore (this being after she was a little cocky saying she could get it done in 5 minutes) as she is trapped in a locked safe due to being caught by the Flying Dog.
This moment brought about flashbacks to Shadow as he paused or became frozen in time, and was the start to what I'd consider as him having an internal (silent) panic attack. Technology wasn't as advanced at the time when the game came out, making it sometimes difficult to always see what was expressed on the characters' models. but I'll try my best to express what characterizes him having a silent panic attack.
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His flashbacks going back and forth between Rouge helplessly on the floor, to the bomb he set up, and then to Maria. His gaze going back and forth as he panics thinking about Rouge and how she's alone without help waiting for her demise. This reminds him all too much of his flashbacks with Maria. How she wasn't able to get the help she needed. I've been reading the script as well on the wiki fanpage, I think it can help further prove my point of him having a ptsd panic attack and confirm what his thoughts were trying to convey.
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The fact he is correlating the helplessness between Maria and Rouge, is beautiful writing when it comes to his characterization and how it affects him with his ptsd. He shortly after goes, "ah... shoot! That troublemaker!"
This is because of him being frustrated and fearful of what may happen to Rouge, someone he clearly cares for as a teammate even if he doesn't fully understand why. He's frustrated that she's now in a dangerous situation and how he doesn't have much time to save her, and feeling that this would be at his hands (as he also feels guilty for not saving Maria) because it was a bomb he set up. His internal conflict between revenge but also seeking to help someone he cares for is why I further believe he is having that panic attack here as well.
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"Rythym and Balance" is one of my favourite Shadow theme songs stage wise. Jun Senoue is a musical genius when it comes to writing songs for SEGA, I could endlessly gush over him (or Hideki Naganuma) for hours on when it comes to the way they write their songs. But I digress...
"Oh yeah, hurry to the unexplored island. I don't mind steep slopes or any obstacles"
"I'm not scared at all, but are you scared of something?"
This gets somewhat repetitive in his song on this stage which is totally on purpose as his songs are supposed to sound inorganic and industrial. However, when you break it down the more organic this song becomes imo. This is due to how with each repetitive line, the more it sounds like his panic is consuming him, he's doing everything he can to keep his head calm and reassured. He's not wanting his panic to take over, but it very much is. He needs to make it over these obstacles to save Rouge, he doesn't want to fail anyone else he cares about again. He sees her as a teammate (to a degree at least) so hes rushing, trying to convince himself that he isn't scared. But then asks if "you're" scared, which in my opinion refers to himself and his internal conflict. He's talking to himself, because he knows he's scared to lose someone he's close too all over again and be seen as a failure. Another interpretation is this being Maria, he's thinking of her trying to ask her questions while he's in his head having flashbacks.
"And I don't wanna hear you"
This lyric in of itself, is him referring to Maria as he has flashbacks. It could also refer to Rouge as well. He's trying his best to remove that imagery he had of Rouge and Maria from earlier when it comes to the connection between how they both were helplessly laying on the floor to their inevitable deaths.
"Shadow, don't make me upset"
Again, he's referring to Maria and/or Rouge. He's repeating both of these lines, especially the "I don't wanna hear you." This again emphasizes how he is in a clear state of panic. This is why I refer to him having a panic attack. He is trying hard to be confident, but he doesn't know how to keep his composure while his mind races with thoughts of his past.
Later on, Shadow has a flashback with Maria looking out at the window, him struggling with his memories and what they all could mean to him. Confused as to why he felt empathetic for Rouge and her situation and why he felt the need to save her. One of my all-time favourite quotes from the game being,
"Maria... I just don't know anything anymore. I often wonder why I was created? What my purpose is for being here."
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Rouge comes in asking him why he's so melancholy and also points out how unlike it was for him to save her. She hasn't seen an empathetic side before for Shadow, so of course she's gonna have a lot of confusion. And despite him playing it off as if he was saving her only for the chaos emeralds to carry out his plan of revenge. Rouge quickly notes, "That's not the whole story, is it?"
Okok now to tie into why the pathetic line is important, when Shadow confronts Rouge before she's about to steal the chaos emeralds for herself, he is shown to have a more upset tone. David Humphrey usually plays Shadow with a calm and soft, almost monotonous tone. To hear him give Shadow a different tone is just really good voice acting when it comes to this confrontation. Shadow has every right to be upset when realizing Rouge was a government spy, calling her a "pathetic creature" out of his frustration. Rouge is someone he trusts/ trusted and to find out how he's been betrayed by her to someone who works with the government. Someone he risked his life for, even though Maria died by the very hands of the government organization known as G.U.N. Of course, he'd feel angered. Also correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that her working with the president also would mean she was working alongside G.U.N too since the whole point of her spying was to find out more on Shadow.
Anyways I found that to be an interesting and integral part because it once again emphasizes his struggles with expressing his empathy and understanding others' intentions. Rouge someone he trusts or, at the very least, was beginning to trust somehow, which makes him question his morals and purpose even more. Not only that, but even with her question to Shadow whether or not he was truly the first and real Shadow, this only makes him wonder more about his identity as a creation, and does not help with this struggle of his. Even if he truly does want to believe in what he knows of himself when it comes to who he is.
Anyway, I hope reading about a fictional hedgehog in this much depth was at least interesting. It was fun for me to write this tbh I love being able to express how White Jungle was such a significant scene for Shadow's character in helping the viewers realize he isn't a villain and is more so misunderstood. It helps to show his empathy and how he values those he cares about or peace in general. I love to how it brings out so much of the other scenes as well, due to it being such a key component to his character. Gahh, it's just so good
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snowlyx · 1 month
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A lil thought
so uh y’know how uh Sonic has tan arms (not including Movie and Boom). The only other hedgehog in the current franchise to have skin colored arms is Amy (female). Silver and Shadow (male hedgehogs) have arms that match their fur.
So it got me wondering, is the skin arms a female only trait?
Ik female hedgehogs in forces don’t have skin arms but that could be Sega being lazy.
So what I’m saying is
Trans Sonic?
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000marie198 · 8 months
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Since Sonic doesn’t like fighting Tails, I wonder how Prime season 3 is going to go. While Nine isn’t Tails, they do look similar and Nine is still a Counterpart. Plus, throughout the first 2 seasons, Sonic has shown to want the characters to befriend their counterparts even when they are mad at Him.
Let him cry. Let the child shed tears, he is hurting. He had been on the verge of having a breakdown ever since Avoid the Void. His voice cracked at several points. He cares about Nine way too much to even try battling him.
I don't know how season 3 will go but I expect Sonic won't be able to attack Nine even after all of that
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