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queen-of-the-queers · 2 years
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So. I received an anonymous message today with a link to a post made by a Bughead shipper (who I won't be naming), which listed all of the reasons they hate Tabitha. I thought we could all have a read, shall we? I don't usually do posts like this but this just makes my blood boil.
Number one.
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Firstly, Pop's is her diner. Her grandpa put her in charge and she legally owns it, so she had every right to say that! Also, I think it's a perfectly reasonable request of hers to ask him to not use up valuable space in her establishment to just sit, use the free wifi and order coffee without paying for it. Aside from that she didn't know him. She didn't know his history with the diner, who he was or what his deal could be. I seriously wonder, what would you do if you owned a restaurant and a random, sad looking guy walked in and sat there all day, not buying anything?
Tabitha also didn't treat him badly. She made a few very fair requests, then ended up covering for him with debt collectors and offering him a job, simply because she sensed he needed it. If that doesn't scream "good person" I don't know what does.
Number two.
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Need I remind you that Tabitha said no initially regarding the shrooms, and was very kind about setting boundaries with Jughead? She communicated in a mature, adult way and I think she should be commended for that.
Furthermore, the only reason she agreed to watch him while tripping was because he already went ahead and bought the mushrooms, and she likely figured he'd be safer doing them with her watching over him than alone. And if you think for a second that his pretending to date him in the Jessica situation was weird or creepy, you clearly haven't watched the same scene I have. Jughead's face screams discomfort. Think of it as the Riverdale equivalent of pretending to be in a relationship with your friend at a bar, so a persistent person they aren't interested in stops asking for a hookup?
Number three:
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This wasn't Tabitha's fault, or a reason to hate her?
Betty was the one who handed over the manuscript, and while it wasn't her fault either (both of them had been drugged, give them a break), to demonise Tabitha for explaining this to Jughead is ridiculous!
Number four.
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Ok, firstly, to imply that Tabitha somehow coerced Jughead into wanting to become sober is absolutely ridiculous? I won't talk too deeply about alcoholism here because as somebody who has never experienced it/known someone who has, that really isn't my place. But I will say, it is clear that Jughead deeply wanted to become sober. He was miserable, and really not living his best life. And as with most mental health issues, it's very hard to recover alone. He is so lucky to have somebody like Tabitha there for him, who can encourage him to attend his meetings, let him know that she cares and be a confidant. You said it yourself- she helped him in the end.
As for the thing about Tabitha calling him out for having alcohol on his breath... She did it in such a kind and understanding way, a way that encouraged him to open up to her and agree to take further steps in his recovery. I think he really needed that little push. I say this from personal experience, having someone close to you gently call you out on something going on in your life can really help you to understand it better yourself.
Also, how is putting your hand on somebody else's immediately flirting? I do that to my friends all the time, as a gesture of comfort, to show that I'm there for them and feel that we have a strong relationship. Although we now know how Jabitha have progressed, this was something that could very much have been interpreted platonically.
Finally, that night Tabitha went to Betty's house to check on her, for both Betty's and Jughead's sakes, and walked around a dangerous highway with her all night, in order to keep her safe. If that isn't immensely kind of her, I don't know what is.
Number five.
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Do you understand how a relationship/friendship works? Both people actually have to support and be there for each other.
I'm so glad we got this moment, of Jughead showing up for Tabitha in a way that emphasised how mutual the trust between them is. He can be vulnerable with her, and her with him.
Being an alcoholic wasn't and will never be Jughead's whole personality. Are you saying, that because he has an addiction, he can't go out for dinner with somebody who has been incredibly kind to him, for one night? Sure, that makes a lot of sense. What's so different about him supporting her through this one, hard meal, to her being there for him for weeks on end? Huh?
Let's also not forget the fact that it was Jughead who asked Tabitha out. And since it was his garage, he was probably the one who invited her there too. You know what? I don't think the issue here has anything to do with Tabitha, or Jughead's wellbeing. I just think that maybe you can't stand the idea of seeing Jughead with anyone but Betty. Did I get it right?
Number six.
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I'm so confused, I can't see whether this person does or doesn't like/care about Jughead. One minute it's all "why would you ask an alcoholic to move in with you, that's doomed" and then next it's "he needs to heal, my poor little friend".
Anybody who really cares about Jughead's wellbeing would understand how loving, supportive and kind Tabitha has been to him, and see the trust that has formed between them.
As for the point about them having only had one date, keep in mind that they have known each other for a year now, and have shared regular shifts at Pop's. Despite not having had many formal dates, the bond is there. Though this isn't about Jabitha as a ship, it's about Tabitha as a person.
Closing statement.
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You know what? I'm tired. The only part of this statement I'm going to talk directly about is the section where it says "again... we know NOTHING about you. What are you really running from Ms Tate?"
Maybe instead of judging the fact that we know very little about Tabitha as a character, we could all take a moment to consider why that is. And maybe to think about other characters, for example, Toni, also don't get much backstory either. I'm not going to make this about race (because as a white person, I really don't think I'm educated enough to make intelligent comments about this), but it certainly seems as though this issue comes into play with the Riverdale writing. Just a thought.
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So there you guys have it. Six, nonsensical reasons for hating Tabitha Tate.
And you know what I think? I don't think this is specifically about Tabitha at all. No, I think that this OP can't stand the idea of their lovely Jughead being with anybody apart from a certain blonde- we've seen it already with Toni- whoever the character is, if they get in the way of Bughead, they're hated (and the fact that both of these occasions feature love interests who are women of colour adds a whole other layer to this problem that I won't be going into right now).
Overall I'm so happy we have Tabitha on this show and that Erinn is a member of the cast. They are both beloved by me, and so many others throughout the fandom. I encourage everyone who sees this post to show both the character and actor some love. Erinn's really earned it, having to deal with nonsense like this.
And OP.. keep my wife's name out of your f*****g mouth.
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jackets1213 · 1 year
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Riverdale Season 5 Jughead Jones Brown Shearling Jacket
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theclassymike · 11 days
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Cole Sprouse in Riverdale 5x10.
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staliasjeronica · 7 months
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Jeronica Gifs From Each Episode - Season Five (Part 1)
EP 1
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Okay um I’ve since deleted all of the episodes because I had no space on my laptop to do anything (I could barely open up premiere pro and photoshop and the gifs wouldn’t finish) so I guess I’ll just post this since it’s the last I had </3
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bireggiemantle · 1 year
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hartwinorlose · 7 months
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obsessed with the idea that in riverdale the hotel chain being Five Seasons instead of Four Seasons means there is canonically a fifth, forbidden season of the year in their universe
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lovecanbesostrange · 1 year
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Riverdale is the worst. And I adore it.
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The well-known lesbian classic The Cost of Pepper. Be still my heart.
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daisythornes · 8 months
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momentarily breaking my hiatus JUST to ask if archie and jughead ever kissed now that riverdale is over
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lesbaurinkos · 3 months
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I cant believe there’s another phannie here that also went to riverdale high
MY BRETHREN...... of course the original phannies that went to riverdale high are dan and phil themselves #neverforget
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riverdale-retread · 4 months
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I am forever sad that Archie lost his father so early, I really am. But I wish someone - his useless mother, his brute of an uncle, even the damn judge - would have taken just a bit of time to notice that Archie Andrews, who was tried and served time for a murder he didn't commit, thinks that going to prison for a hit and run that Jeffrey DID commit is going to 'ruin' his life. Oh Archie, I also didn't realize you felt ruined.
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riverdale is about CYCLES you are TRAPPED guys you dont understand it's like AGH!!!!! you are doomed forever because you are in the story and you are your parents and the cycle cannot end!!
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queen-of-the-queers · 2 years
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The constant dilemma of wanting female friendships, but also shipping the characters together whenever one is explored.
*Sigh*
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arsenicpanda · 2 years
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I genuinely can't wait to watch Kevin and Cheryl try to pass as straight when they are both so incapable of it. I will win when they awkwardly serve as each other's beards by """dating""". They never kiss; he puts the world's stiffest arm around her shoulder; they give each other most awkwardly delivered compliments; they have fakest, most public dates with a black void where sexual chemistry should be; they barely tolerate each other and are white knuckling their way through this. People believe they're dating because it's not like they'd fake that, but also every one is surprised by it and they keep waiting for the inevitable breakup.
Well, almost everyone.
"I think they make a great and totally believable couple, idk why the rest of you were surprised by it, this has been coming for years" - Moose, Toni, Jughead, and literally no one else ever
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opheliaintherushes · 9 months
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Ahahahaha, I knew there was something familiar about last night's episode. Oh, Riverdale, never met a storyline from The O.C. you didn't like.
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re last reblog back when i was watching pretty little liars i remember thinking that part of the fun of the show was that while the girls had their flaws and moral failings, none of them were ever that big a deal, and the tone of the show was never “these girls have invited this nightmare upon themselves by being Flawed” but rather “isn’t it terrible and unjust that the villain constantly exploits these moments of completely ordinary and understandable human weakness?” the show constantly affirmed, even through their occasionally astonishingly bad decision making and even after a bunch of them had like killed people, the essential core Goodness of the characters, and above that the fundamental strength of their bond to each other. i did think that something about it felt almost a nineteenth century melodrama - look at the spectacle of these poor decent girls beset at every turn by increasingly perverse Horrors! see how the strength of their hearts cracks but ultimately never breaks under the strain! anyway. dracula is basically that. and it’s great. and someone should put it on TV.
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nolivingsoul · 1 year
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if 7x12/7x13 aren't the last episodes in the 50s I'm afraid roberto will surpass ryan murphy in my shit list because you can't, after choosing to not wrap everyone's story in s6, spend so much time of your last season ever in a time where your characters don't remember who they are. ten episodes was my limit and they're filming 7x11 now 😵‍💫 it's not something satisfying to watch as a viewer, and especially after mistreating the bad deviant lesbian ship 🤪 like they PLAN to reunite them?? they PLAN to give them an happy ending so???? and throwing some random issues in their relationship during the last two seasons knowing damn well they need an on screen resolution, conversations and to be shown in an adult functional relationship for enough time while choosing to not give them that payback is a choice. it should be obvious but roberto doesn't give a fuck about dykes so. could've been fun had season 6 was used to tell a story tho but it wasn't the case so here we are
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