Something about Saint and breaking cycles
Personal interpretations and headcanons under the cut
I'm really not that big of a fan of Saint lorewise, purely because i feel like their story goes agaisn't what i believed to be the point of Rain World's story, or at least one of them, which is that life will continue to exist and evolve no matter how hard you try to erase it, that even though many creatures had gone extinct due to the snow storms, many others had adapted to the cold and were thriving, civilisations fall and rise, life goes on.
Because of that i am not really the biggest fan of the theory that Saint's goal is to ascend every living being so a new era can start anew, personally i see it as the opposite, a creature given the power that the Ancients and iterators so dearly wished they had is at the end of the day, nothing but an animal, and will continue to exist as an animal for the rest of it's existence.
Saint is not a saviour, nor are they a god, they're a slugcat, a creature, one that is not immune to instinct, it sees ascension as nothing but as a way to defend itself, it's not doing it for a sense of duty, it only does what it needs to further it's survival.
I think that's also one of the reasons why the ending of their campaign annoys me, mostly the fact that there is no other option but go to Rubicon, when in reality i think the most tragically beautiful thing would be for Saint to live it's life, for all of the Ancient's efforts to go in vain, for the Triple Affirmative to be lost to the wind.
Something about breaking cycles, but not the ones your creators made you to break.
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this is so messy but here’s my interpretation of how cycles, reincarnation and death works in Rainworld
So the first thing to note is that I think it’s super.. timeline-y. Which is always a pain but whatever.
So generally, if you don’t die you progress through time pretty linearly, each cycle being a single day. However, if you do die, in your perception you wake back up at the start of the day alongside everything else. But really you’ve hopped sideways in time, to a new timeline starting at your death. In the perceptions of everything from the timeline you died in, you’re gone for GOOD, never to be seen again.
Also, though it may feel like a long time if you keep dying, the upward progression of time is actually consistent across all timelines. You can’t “lag behind” other timelines, just move horizontally away from them.
If you die of a more “permanent” cause, like disease or old age, this again works differently. You can’t just wake up in a new timeline, because you’d still be afflicted with the thing that killed you, so instead you fully leave your old life and reincarnate as a new being carrying the same soul. This can occasionally resync the cycles of beings that were alive together at some point, but one died before the other.
Ascension is when every alternate version of yourself, across every single timeline, bundles into a single point and gets cut off at once. The Ultimate Termination of the self. This is how I explain that part in the void sea where a ton of clones start swimming with you.
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Hello? Are you there? Are you coming home?
Spearmaster who took a wrong turn and accidentally ended up in the void sea while trying to get home to suns haunts me. I like to think they would realize the mistake and try to swim out but.. once you go down, you aren't really allowed back up.
Heavily inspired by the fact that I think that worm is evil and Laurie Anderson's: O Superman
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