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Hi! Do you have an HQ Scan of the Aminta Deborah Dutcher 2000 UK tour pic? It’s one of my favs!
I have two Aminta photos of Deborah Dutcher, and one is tiny. But here ya go!
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First lair photos from the 1st UK Tour. These are from 1998 and should feature Scott Davies and Zoe Curlett.
#these may have been shared before?#i think there's another boat one from a different angle of them#very clear#scott davies#zoe curlett#poto uk tour#The Phantom of the Opera
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PHANTOM “PHAN” THEORY
These thoughts have been on my mind for a long time now and now I’d like to share a Theory I have had with all of you
Just to be clear this is merely a Theory I came up with a while back. There is no 100% Confirmation that any of this is true, but there is nothing that is denying it either
So Please take what you are about to read with a grain of salt and remember that you are more than welcome to agree or disagree with what you are about to read
With that out of the way, Let’s talk about the Cast for the 2021 Phantom of the Opera West End Revival
Specifically The Role of “The Phantom”
When the 2020 UK & Ireland Tour of Phantom of the Opera was announced, I was very excited for this cast. However, myself and many others couldn’t help but notice an interesting bit included in the announcement:
[Please note: Killian Donnelly will play the role of ‘The Phantom’ in Leicester, Manchester, Dublin and Birmingham. Casting for the role of ‘The Phantom’ from Edinburgh onwards will be announced in due course]
This means that after these stops Killian was going to leave the Phantom Tour and we would be getting a new Principle Phantom
But, who would that be?
I think it was going to be someone already within the Touring Cast
Specifically, one of the Understudies
The Phantom UK Tour had Two Understudies for ‘The Phantom’
James Gant (Auctioneer) who was 1st Cover Phantom
Brad Barnley (Hairdresser) who was 2nd Cover Phantom
However, it should be noted that in addition to understudying ‘The Phantom,’ Brad Barnley was also 2nd Cover ‘Raoul’ so he covers not just one but two roles
James Gant on the other hand only covered ‘The Phantom’
Which means, If they needed a Temporary Principle OR a New Principle Phantom, they could promote James Gant to that position
However, I’m sure many of you are asking, “What about James’ original track as ‘The Auctioneer?’
Something that I’ve noticed about the “Auctioneer” track, mostly recently in the Current London Production is how the “Auctioneer” track seems to be interchangeable among the other performers in the company
Whenever James Gant is unable to perform the “Auctioneer” track, one of the swings will cover Gant’s part in the ensemble while the actual “Auctioneer” part of Gant’s track will usually be covered by James Hume before assuming his normal track as Monsieur Reyer
If Gant and/or Hume are unable to perform, either one of the Swings will cover the full track or the role will be split between “Auctioneer” and Ensemble
In some extreme cases, they’ll have someone who doesn’t even cover the “Auctioneer” track like Michael Robert-Lowe who one day randomly played the Auctioneer before assuming his normal track as ‘Joseph Buquet’
Therefore, promoting James Gant to Principle Phantom would not hinder the Production that much
However, I’m sure you have noticed that means The Phantom Tour would now only have ONE understudy for ‘The Phantom
…….or would they?
When the understudies were revealed for the UK & Ireland Tour, I was shown that James Hume (Monsieur Reyer) would be an Understudy for Monsieur Andre but, not an Understudy for The Phantom
I was a little disappointed in this cause I thought James Hume would be a great Phantom
However, when the Tour Company replaced the London Company at Her Majesty’s (which I’m still a bit upset about, but whatever) James Hume in addition to being an Understudy for Monsieur Andre was revealed to also be an Understudy for The Phantom
Something interesting to note however, is that James Hume is actually 3rd Cover for The Phantom. James Gant & Ashley Stillburn are 1st and 2nd Cover respectively
I mention this because Hume is the ONLY person in the Cast to be a 3rd Cover for a role. Everyone else is either 1st or 2nd Cover
Credit to @phantomtrader19 for the Cast Program Picture
Why would they have a 3rd Cover for one of the roles, but not for any other role in the London Production?
I think it’s because of what they had planned for the 2020 UK & Ireland Tour
When Killian Donnelly was planned to leave the Tour, James Gant would have been promoted from 1st Cover Phantom to the Principle Phantom. James Hume, in addition to being 1st Cover Andre, would have been the New 1st Cover Phantom for the Tour since he tends to be the one that fills in for Gant as the Auctioneer. Brad Barnley most likely would have stayed as 2nd Cover for The Phantom/Raoul
That is what I think was the plan for the Tour since the beginning, However due to Covid-19, Things DRASTICALLY changed so, when The Phantom Tour Cast replaced the London Cast (which again, I’m still a bit upset about), they decided to just make James Hume a Phantom Understudy along with James Gant & Ashley Stillburn
As for what Killian Donnelly was planning on doing when he left the Tour
I have a Theory
#Phantom of the Opera#theory#killian donnelly#james gant#brad barnley#james hume#ashley stillburn#michael robert lowe#phantom uk tour#poto uk tour#phantom west end#phantom london#poto west end#poto london#poto west end revival#The Phantom of the Opera
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Okay so when are we getting a UK & Ireland phantom tour??? 🤔
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Ian Mowat as (First Cover) Monsieur Firmin
from the 2020 UK & Ireland Tour of The Phantom of the Opera
Photos From Instagram
#ian mowat#understudy#adam linstead#francesca ellis#Phantom of the Opera#uk tour#monsieur andre#monsieur firmin#madame giry#POTO UK Tour#understudy love#poto uk & ireland tour
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Some gareth that didn't appear in Tumblr！ha！snooky！！（Most of them are phantom of the opera）
And some Twitter.❤️
#phantom of the opera#gareth snook#musicals#gilles andre#Charlie and the Chocolate Factory#catcf musical 2023#catcf uk tour#poto#musical
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Killian Donnelly, Holly Anne hull, & rhys Whitefield west end
Rhys last bows with Holly, and as the uk tour trio
#cast change#killian donnelly#holly anne hull#rhys whitfield#uk tour#phantom london#poto west end revival#phantom west end#backstage
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I know Mackintosh wanted a cheap production to travel with but couldn't they keep at least the original blockings in the POTO Restaged Tour? It's just choreography, how it was going to cost more? And who directed that cringefest?? Even high school productions aren't that bad. I'm still enraged about christine slapping Raoul, because wtf??
Because Cameron Mackintosh did not just want a cheap production that travels easily, he wanted a cheap production where he would not have to pay royalties to the original creatives, Hal Prince, Maria Bjornson, Gillian Lynne, and so on. One of the big costs of putting on the original is the licensing: paying to use the original direction, costumes, choreography, and so on, because even if the creatives are not directly involved in that specific production, it is still using their ideas to make the show a success, and they deserve to be paid in part for doing that. So to answer your question, no, it's really not "just choreography", it is a large part of the cost, and if you want a cheaper production, that is a thing you have to cut (by changing it).
Of course, as people who were around back then might know, the restaged tour was not entirely popular with fans or even some critics, and so a compromise of sorts was made, where a production was created that sticks as closely to the original as it can but deviates just enough that they don't have to pay royalties to, at the very least, Hal Prince, the original director. And that's how we got the modified UK tour that ran so briefly in 2020 and the reopened London production / London revival (which, yes, is legally considered a whole new production).
As for the person who directed the restaging, it was Laurence Connor, who has directed, among other things, the Les Miserables restaging as well as the Les Miserables and The Phantom of the Opera 25th anniversary concerts. And if you're curious, the person who directed the modified UK tour / London revival is Seth Sklar-Heyn, who also served as a producer and associate director in the restaged tours. So if you watch the London revival (or the reopened Broadway production) and noticed some similarities in blocking between that and the restaging, well, that's probably why.
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I notice POTO Vienna doesn't have an alternate Christine, do you think Lisanne Veeneman will do all the shows unless sick or on holiday?
the restaged productions (and many other productions over the last 5-7 years) seem to not give as much attention to the alternate Christine as much. in the three, soon to be four productions of the laurence connor nightmare direction, the only alternate to get an official stage photo was olivia brereton in the restaged uk tour.
some of the us tour alternate/understudies (more on that later) had some side of the stage performance pictures taken by matthew murphy, but those were never printed in the brochure or put on posters. and i don't remember anything of bridget costello either in australia.
meanwhile, broadway, west end, and old us tour alternates usually had a few stage photos taken and at least one of them included in the brochure and a poster outside the theatre.
the restaged US tour christines also had weird schedules, at one point no one could publicly post or answer questions about when they were going on, sometimes there was a "first cover/second cover" situation where one got preference over the other, I remember reading stuff from one of the understudies "[the principal] just takes off any two shows she likes and I do them, any shows I miss or additional shows the principal takes off are covered by the other understudy" (i think i'm paraphrasing celia hottenstein when katie travis was principal but i don't fully remember). and then some time (a couple of years/cast changes) later, suddenly there wasn't as much rhyme or reason to it and both were considered "understudies" with no alternate.
and of course the restaged tour "alterstudies" all perform in the ensemble when not playing christine, as opposed to previous replica productions such as broadway and old us tours, which for the most part have the christine alternate do 1-3 shows a week with a generally set schedule and having the day off when not performing and no additional role besides christine. plus there's 1-2 understudies with a regular ensemble track or swing role.
the vienna revival lists 2 cover christines performing regularly as "princesses", leonie kappmeyer and lillian maandag, but no indication that one is "christine at certain performances" or "first cover". i doubt lisanne clémence veeneman will do 8 shows a week, but i'm not sure how they will arrange who covers her off shows and what dates the 2 covers will perform. at first i wondered if leonie kappmeyer was first cover because she is listed first on the website cast list, with lillian maandag the next person listed, but then i realized the ensemble is listed in alphabetical order by last name, and it's just coincidence that leonie and lillian are next to each other. i guess we'll find out
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Dave Willetts as the Phantom (West End 1987-1991, UK Tour 1993)
Cast change 1987, Dave Willetts taking over the role from Michael Crawford (photo by Marcus Tylor)
Same
With Michael Ball and Claire Moore, West End
With Lisa Hull, UK Tour
With Lisa Hull, UK Tour
As Red Death, West End or UK Tour
At the organ, UK Tour
With Lisa Hull, UK Tour
Mirror scene, West End or UK Tour
MOTN, West End or UK Tour
#phantom of the opera#dave willetts#claire moore#michael ball#lisa hull#so similar to michael crawford at times#poto west end#poto uk tour
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Zoe Curlett, UK Tour.
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Musical asks: 5, 11, 14, 15!
thank you for the ask!!
5.Did you see any live musicals this year? What did you think of them?
No. I thought about seeing Rebecca London many many times, briefly considered seeing Hamilton (UK tour), and stood outside the Theater des Westens. This coming year I might see Bonnie and Clyde.
11 Did you watch any movie musicals this year, and what did you think of them?
I don't remember! Or rather we watch a lot as a family but I don't remember if any were new, or have strong feelings.
14. If you use Spotify, were any musical theatre songs on your wrapped?
MANY, in the top 10 of my 2023 wrapped: 1) AIAOY Poto 4) Sirens (Reprise) Jane Eyre 5) Sieh zum Mond Doktor Schiwago 6) So gut wie sie Jane Eyre Gmunden 7) Heaven can Wait Booh 8) What part of my body hurts the most Booh 10) Der Prinz ist fort Mozart
And just because I want to here are the musical related albums I listen to most of off Spotify: Steve Barton Encores, Mozart! 1999, Beauty and the Beast Vienna, Musical Gala mit Biss 1998, Steve Barton Memorial Concert, Aspects of Love Broadway.
15. Infodump to me about a musical!
I'm going to reblog this when I have something to infodump on! Head empty since you sent the ask unfortunately, and its been a while.
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Hello - I saw an ask about Mackintosh and you asked if someone knew anything about him and John Owen-Jones. I think the anon was referring to him not inviting JOJ and Rebecca Caine for a Les Mis celebration and not casting JOJ for neither Les Mis 25 and POTO 25. He also blacklisted Rebecca Caine. Imo JOJ deserved and should have played the phantom in the RAH concert. I think he only cast JOJ for the POTO Restaged Tour because otherwise no one would go see that rubbish production. I also think it was blatant sexism of his part not casting Rebecca Caine and Frances Ruffelle for the 10th anniversary concert of Les Mis when he did cast the three original male leads.
Sorry for the rant.
Um, I knew about the beef between Rebecca Caine and CamMack but she does show up in Les Mis celebrations, mainly because it would be a bit weird to not invite her? Look no further than the 20th anniversary celebration. As for the 10th anniversary, the lady playing Cosette was Judy Kuhn, who was in the original cast for the Broadway production and is a an amazing performer in her own right, while Lea Salonga was a rising star at the time and they probably went for her in order to also attract the audience that were fans of her through Miss Saigon. They made an effort for the 10th anniversary concert to have people from various productions in it - Colm Wilkinson and Michael Ball were from West End, Judy Kuhn, Lea Salonga and Michael Maguire were from Broadway, Philip Quast from Australia (and not one of the original three male leads, that was Roger Allam), and so on. So I'm not sure what you mean by "blatant sexism". There's also the fact that both Rebecca Caine and Frances Ruffelle were on tour for other projects, so maybe they felt like doing that instead of doing Les Mis all over again.
And you can think JOJ "deserved" to be in the Les Mis 25th anniversary concert or the POTO 25th anniversary concert all you want, don't get me wrong (I would have preferred him to Ramin myself tbh), but maybe he wasn't in the Les Mis concert given he was in the UK tour at the time (so, you know, busy), and maybe he wasn't in in the RAH concert because he was in the West End production of POTO (so, again, busy). While we're at it, why was it Sierra Boggess instead of Sofia Escobar? Why was it Hadley Fraser instead of Killian Donnelly? And the list goes on.
As for the restaged tour, I'm not a fan of it by any means, but I think it's not about trapping poor JOJ into having to perform it, but more about CamMack casting people who had already played the roles and who were generally well-liked by the audience - not just JOJ, but also Earl Carpenter, Katie Hall, Simon Bailey. The idea when you're having a supposedly revamped tour is to attract people to come and see it, and putting in well-known names usually helps with the box office, right? You know it's not usually a sign that the product will be bad, right? Josh Groban was stunt casting for The Great Comet of 1812 but that doesn't mean that producers thought the product was going to be bad and that Groban was going to be the only thing attracting audiences, ya know. A big help? Yeah. But not a sign that they didn't trust the product at all.
Side note, and I apologize in advance if I'm mistaken, but if you're one of those people who's been constantly sending asks to other POTO blogs about JOJ, for the love of God, please leave me alone. I'm not going to gift stuff with JOJ and especially not with all the badgering going on.
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Tim Morgan as the Auctioneer
From the Phantom of the Opera UK Tour (1994 Manchester)
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my idea of fun distraction is browsing old musical forums and getting mad. 'i don't like when someone tampers with an iconic original, be it a revamped tour or a cheap polish non-replica!' now i won't say anything about any touring productions in the uk/us, cammack's greed is of no secret to anyone. but why would you get so up in the arms about cheap non-replicas. if you live in london and can afford to go see the original, good on you. nobody's forcing you to travel to eastern europe to watch cheap productions which are literally the only way the local populace can experience them. often, these productions will have just as much, if not more, energy and sincerity as seasoned originals. if your show doesn't work without the spectacle, then it's weak. weirdly enough, poto, which the remark was originally about, is not, to my surprise, one of those, and can in fact shine in a non-replica. also non-replicas are just fun.
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