@suncaptor ​birthday event: day three | lucifer + vessels [insp]

Hail to the King, baby.

how do you think lucifer knew about pop culture and such? like even in season 5 when he was the original version of himself the writers hadn’t ruined yet, he uses a lot of slang and modern idioms. and i guess we could just say bad writing lol but what’s your opinion?

hiii hi lucifer's s5 pop culture references are one of my favorite dialogue writing choices of the show tbh! the tl;dr is that i think lucifer did a lot of digging around in nick's mind while he was hanging out in nick's body, but i'll like, show my work and stuff also lol

so, in 5.01, before lucifer has a physical vessel and is appearing in nick's dreams, there are no pop culture references in sarah!lucifer's speech, and very little slang. the same is true when lucifer speaks to azazel through the sacrificed nun in the flashback in 4.22.

the pop culture references start after lucifer has taken nick as a vessel and has full access to everything in nick's mind and body, not just whatever can be accessed through dreams. he also starts moving more casually and fluidly, with little gestural quirks that imo have a similar effect to the pop culture references: communicating with humans in human-oriented ways that humans will easily understand and that will make him more relatable to them (not necessarily more likable, but maybe less alien, at least)

so, i think the pop culture refs are picked up from his vessels' memories and thoughts! he got in there, he got total, internal access to nick's memories and his body's habits and his speech patterns and stuff, and starting using those materials in his own communication styles. and then maybe also picked some up through exposure once he had the basics down, after he'd been out of the cage for a while

speculatively, i'd guess this was part of why nick was appealing to lucifer as a vessel: from what we see of nick, we know that what he wears looks like he has a job that has him in work boots (so, probably not white collar, and probably therefore has a vernacular more similar to sam and dean's than someone who would be spending his days in a corporate office, for example) and has pretty standard spn-core ways of speaking. having nick as a vessel puts lucifer more in sam's world visually, in speech, and in movement style more than other possible vessels would. he probably knows a lot of the same pop culture sam does, and he probably talks the way people sam is comfortable and familiar with talk — so, if lucifer learns to talk like a human from nick, lucifer also will come across as a familiar, relatable type of person to sam (didn't work too well but like, A for effort). idk if lucifer would have known enough about human class structures etc to be able to identify nick as the right kind of human to learn human culture from in order to talk to sam, so disregard if that seems too circular...but imo it's smart from the writers/costumers/etc, even if it didn't factor into lucifer's choice at all

(all of this makes different angels' characterization really interesting, i think, because some of them do a lot of human-ifying of themselves like this, while others don't. does castiel not do it much for the sake of jimmy's mind/memory privacy, or because he just doesn't care very much about seeming human? what's up with uriel and michael using pop culture referneces but not much human body language? like i know it's largely inconsistency in writing and acting choices for different characters but just assuming it's actually character-based reasons, i love it. and imo it implies that lucifer is very curious about humanity, even though he wants to get rid of them, and is good with rhetoric in that he understands the value of speaking to people in a way that feels familiar (he sucks at rhetoric in some other ways lol, but he was doing a good job on that, at least))

i just think it would have been sexy if nick looked more like sam’s brother then dean did

Me: i can fix him 🥺

Him: literally Lucifer

sometimes your ex will come back and be all over you like 'uhhh I'm avenging your murder by serial killing' when he literally left you for Satan and the only reason he's talking to you is he wants to get back together with him, boys are so exhausting

Mary haters will say she overreacted to Nick being burned alive despite little known fact that Mary Winchester actually once burned alive.

A couple of Supernatural Headcanons I came up with recently

Nick and Kelly are twins (I know Nick has a kinda confirmed last name, but I think he took his wife's last name).

Dean lightly bit baby Sam's arm a lot because of Cuteness Aggression™️.

Adam listened to Animals by Nickelback on repeat when it first came out (in an AU where he grew up with Sam and Dean, it annoyed the shit out of the two of them. Dean especially).

In an AU where Adam grew up with Sam and Dean, he (Adam) and Matt (that one kid from "Bugs") kissed at the end of the episode, and Matt gave Adam one of his pet spiders. (This isn’t that recent. I've had it for a while.)

• Heya, here is a draw that I made of Lucifer and his wings, wonderful wings by the way!

- appreciate ~

I know ppl don’t like Nick but really thinking like- someone uses your body to inflict such immense pain on others and they are irreparable changed to react negatively to your form and you had no control over it maybe you don’t even remember and you have nothing and you probably feel empty like something is missing so you reach out for company only to have the only other person who gets you (and can never really) shrink from your hand.

Nick Supernatural?? in MY soup?

Your love is my drug

rating: T words: 2,987 relationships: Adam & Nick, Adam/Nick (pre-relationship) other tags: Ambiguous Relationships, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Post-Season/Series 05, Hurt/Comfort, Sharing a Bed, Trauma, Recovery, Angst, Trans Character, Trans Male Character, Agender Character, Gender Dysphoria, Trans Adam Milligan, Self-Harm, Adam giving slightly clumsy and mean-to-himself descriptions of his own experiences, trans author, deliberate self-triggering about gender issues, Misgendering status: complete

summary:

Every day, his body feels less and less like the kid’s body that got eaten alive. Every day, he looks less and less like the kid an archangel rode to the apocalypse.

Maybe it’s okay that he doesn’t give a shit that he doesn’t look like that kid anymore.

Maybe it’s okay if he’s relieved he doesn’t, even. (Post-season 5 AU in which Nick lives and Adam gets pulled out of the cage when Castiel comes to get Sam.)

are you shitting me

nick woke lucifer up in the empty and this is the only way they could portray him

freddy-fazbear-ass looking motherfucker

dude has remnant all up in his business, probably emerging from under the pizzaplex with a damn fazwatch

Nick & Lucifer, and what if the summoning from the empty ritual worked all the way?

It comes in waves, Lucifer. The cold all encompassing grief that makes up the archangel; hurtling out of formless black and filling the small room with a light so brilliant Nick can feel his eyes burning (and he’s grateful, so grateful, that Lucifer would allow him that).

“Yes,” he says, and that cold coalesces and fills him to the bursting and finally, finally he’s at home again; finally he’s where he belongs, finally he has a purpose again.

This didn't fit with my previous post but uhm. Wtf was that side plot with Lucifer's vessel in season 14? Who the hell ever gave a shit about Nick? Was that honestly the best villain they could come up with as a catalyst?