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veliseraptor · 1 year

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Crime and Punishment in Mo Dao Zu Shi

So I've finally finished the essay I've been threatening to write for more than a year. A hearty thank you to @paradife-loft for early editing eyes and a coherence check, and @neuxue for further editing as well as last minute bonus translation.

First of all, a big ol’ disclaimer: I am working from a translated text where I do not have access to the original language. That generates a gap where potentially a great deal can be lost or altered in translation; hence, I’m going to avoid as much as possible attempting to do a close reading or lean too hard on language or word choice in my assessment of the novel, speaking in broader strokes.

Additionally, I am coming at this from a perspective where I am predisposed to feel sympathy for villains/antagonists in a story, and I recognize that potentially creates a bias in my assessment. That being said, I think it’s a fair reading at the very least, if not an authoritative one. This essay will include spoilers for the entirety of the Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation (MDZS) novel, as well as The Untamed (CQL), and minor spoilers in footnotes and a brief additional section for MXTX's other novels.

I will be touching on CQL in an appendix at the end, though to a lesser degree because analyzing visual media is less of my strong point. Nonetheless I think it is relevant that, despite the alteration of story details to arguably make the morality of the story more black/white, certain thematic resonances remain.

All that being said, my point here is: MXTX (Mo Xiang Tong Xiu) as an author, and MDZS in particular, is at best skeptical of punitive justice; to put it more bluntly, the concept of characters “getting what they deserve” is, if not directly repudiated, then certainly not the point. To put it even more bluntly, MDZS doesn’t want to punish its villains, it just kills them, which (importantly) isn’t the same thing.

[READ THE REST, IT'S LONG AND HEAVILY FOOTNOTED]

#mdzs #the untamed #i'm actually moderately proud of this one! that doesn't happen often #making me go 'hmm maybe i should go back to more essay writing'#that's the devil talking #sometimes i write things #lise does meta #the sad queer cultivators show

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myheartismadeofstars · 10 months

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Anyone want to be MXTX novel buddies with me? 🥺

I want to talk about the Blorbos from my Books!

SVSSS is probably my favourite one but I am fixating on TGCF currently (annoying because I don't have any HOB books except for the first one, maybe I'll go buy a couple this month. Even if I wanted to read it online the only translations are extremely bad... which I totally understand, because why not support the author! But I don't always have the money to buy them, I've read the others though!)

My Ships:

SV: Bingqiu, Binggeyuan, Bing2qiu (poly with bingge), Moshang, Qijiu, NingFan

MDZS: Wangxian, WangNingXian, SangCheng, QinYao (but not as siblings), NieQing, Xuanli, XueQing, songxiao

TGCF: based on what I have read, spoilers (sought out on my own) and fanfics: Hualian, Fengqing, Quanyin, and Pei Su x Ban Yue. (Since I know how popular it is, I should mention it: I don't ship B. e. e. f. l. e. a. f. i understand why someone might, but I prefer them as tragic friends. I can't see SQX forgiving HX in canon. I can see HX realizing that he missed SQX and wanted to be friends again, but it's too late. Even in an AU I've been concocting, I don't see them romantically. At MOST I could see them as Platonic Soulmates, similar to the way I see Mu Qing and Xie Lian.)

#tgcf #hualian #wangxian #tian guan ci fu #heaven's official blessing #mdzs #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #scum villian self saving system #svsss #Bingqiu #moshang #Fengqing #mxtx #mxtx novels #i would love to have friends who want to talk about mxtx novels

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arlinxen · 6 months

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mdzs volume 1 thoughts & opinions

[first read] [spoilers]

Review (Spoilers)

Wei Wuxian pointed at himself with a wide, happy grin. “What about this one?”

“Mine,” Lan Wangji answered.

I've read tgcf and loved tgcf so my friends told me I had to read mdzs so here we are.

I went into this mostly blind, minus trigger warnings from my friends. Based on the way I've heard Wei Wuxian described, I was pleasantly surprised. I actually didn't think I would even like this series, but I do. So that's good.

I'm fairly positive this book can solve most of my issues.

I did also read the poorly translated version which sucked, but I don't want to hold that against the series because it isn't MXTX's fault

The writing style isn't traditional which I admire. I really don't like the writing style of most books on booktok because it's all copy and paste (which sucks because I read 50+ books a year) not to mention the books I edit for authors.

I enjoy the pacing of this series a lot more than tgcf. It took all the small pieces of tgcf to come together but with mdzs I can draw conclusions very quickly on what is happening rather than feeling like some of this might not be relevant. I like the fast pace feel.

Favorite Character: Wei Wuxian. I don't think I really need to explain this one.

Least Favorite Character: Jiang Cheng.

Favorite Moment: Lan Wangji dragging Wei Wuxian back to the cloud recess. It was humorous to read as he said "drag him in later". Notable mentions is drunk Lan Wangji though.

Kindle Highlights:

This one hurt me. I couldn’t help but highlight it 😭

I found this funny when i read it.

who’s gonna tell him 😭

I don’t think I need to explain this one.

me personally, Wei Wuxian, i want him to carry me.

i thought this was cute 🥺

Final Review

5 stars!

Out of the 5 books on my 5 star book list for 2023, I would consider mdzs #1 on the list. Definitely worth the read.

anyways ty for coming to my review of just volume 1 :)

#grandmaster of demonic cultivation #mdzs #mo dao zu shi

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kamreadsandrecs · 1 month

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Title: Stars of Chaos/Sha Po Lang, Vol. 1

Author: priest

Genre/s: danmei, steampunk, historical, alternate history

Content/Trigger Warning/s: murder, violence, deafness, blindness

Summary (from publisher's website): The discovery of violet gold, a vital fuel for steam-powered machines, propelled the empire of Great Liang into an age of prosperity. But for Chang Geng, a young man raised on the impoverished northern border, the concerns of the empire are as distant as the stars above.

When raiders from the north attack Chang Geng’s small village, he discovers that the life he knows is a lie. His mother, his teacher, and even his godfather whom he trusted more than any other, Shen Shiliu, are not what they seem. As enemy nations close in, Chang Geng follows his godfather to the heart of the imperial capital, where a greater fate lies in store for him.

Buy Here: https://sevenseasentertainment.com/books/stars-of-chaos-sha-po-lang-novel-vol-1/

Spoiler-Free Review: Oh, but this was so GOOD! This book reads as a LOT more complex than what I remember of MDZS. For one, the worldbuilding is MUCH more thorough than the world of MDZS, which had enough details in it to build a sense of what it’s like in the reader’s head, but certainly not to the same detail as this book. While it’s set in a fictional China, this book goes beyond China’s borders to show its connection to fictional versions of Central Asia, Europe, and Japan.

And in line with that expansion of the world, the plot and the themes expand as well. While this volume contains elements of mystery and court intrigue, the main bulk of the plot (in this volume anyway) is centered on the resource called violet gold (which reads like a stand-in for crude oil) and the ways Great Liang has attempted to secure its supply of the resource. Those methods include soft and hard controls of the market, but notably, it includes colonial subjugation of a region where the resource is most abundant. That latter bit makes for some interesting thoughts if one is a reader for whom such a theme is of interest, especially given how one character in particular states that, if it were up to them, they would go on a colonial-expansionist project in order to ensure the safety and stability of Great Liang.

While all of those are weighty and complex topics, this series is still firmly in the danmei genre, as shown by the relationship between Gu Yun and Chang Geng, whose relationship is a bit more nuanced and complex in its portrayal than that between Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian. There are plenty of silly moments, of course, and more than a few times I facepalmed (in a good way) at their dynamic, but while it’s clear that they are the main romantic couple of this series, their relationship is not as clear-cut as the main couple in MDSZ.

Overall, this was an excellent read: a step up in terms of style, narrative, and thematic concerns compared to MDZS, while still remaining within the ambit danmei as a genre. I am not entirely sure if this difference is a result of the authors’ specific skills and styles, or if it is a result of their respective translators, but regardless, this volume certainly shows that priest is entirely capable of doing some very good worldbuilding while weaving a complex plot, as well as working with equally complex themes. I will definitely be keeping an eye out for the next volume, as well as for priest’s other works, because I think that her writing might just be the kind I really enjoy.

Rating: five silk darts

#book review #book reviews #stars of chaos #sha po lang #priest #danmei #historical #alternate history #steampunk #books

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thegreymoon · 2 months

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I'm going to start MDZS properly tonight, after years and years. I tried for the first time back in the midst of The Untamed hype (which was my first successfully watched c-drama and my introduction to danmei) but that fan translation was just one giant nope. I'm not expecting anything new or exciting from this book at this point. I did watch the drama after all, skimmed through the fan translation, read bits and pieces of it out of order and at random over the years, and have been through ALL the fandom wank and shipping wars. But I still feel guilty for never having fully read it, so here we are 😔

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Well, that's horrible.

Being stabbed by Jiang Cheng sounds easier.

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Eat the rich, etc.

This gross bully can't even do his smashing himself, he must send servants to do it for him. If there ever was a worthy candidate for being swallowed by an evil curse, he is it.

I feel like Mo Xuanyu would have been great friends with Mo Ran. Wei Wuxian probably would be too. Mistreated orphans, unite!

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I haven't been the biggest fan of 7seas art in these books so far but this one, I like 🖤

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LMAO, aww, baby is offended people think he was a malicious ghost 🖤

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Crying 🤣🤣

"Decent" and "honest" wandering ghost 🤣🤣

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LMAO, he's so bad at this "malicious ghost" business 🤣🤣

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Oh, yes, he would have been such good friends with Mo Ran 🤣🤣

They even like the same type of men 🤣🤣

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Going into this book with all the spoilers is a special kind of fun. You get to catch stuff like this:

Just knowing what he went through in the Jiang family, the gratitude he felt he owed to Jiang Fengmian, how restricted and restrained he was by them, the constant not to be an embarrassment to them.

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LMFAO

Don't worry, baby, you'll marry the best 😊

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Reading this is coming along so slowly. Who told me to read three books at once? 😭

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Their souls returned??

I never realized this was what was happening. I thought he was just animating the corpses. IDK how I feel about that. The dead should rest in peace. Summoning souls to do your dirty bidding is going too far.

#mdzs #volume 1

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wangxianficfinder · 2 years

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Fanwork Research & Reference Guides Compilation

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All in the Wangxian Family by tungstenpincenez (G, 19k, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides, family tree, Comic-Con, Humor, tutorial, Chinese names, chinese honorifics, warning: mental illness discussion)

Writers Guide: The Guqin by ThisIsWhereTheMagicHappens (Not Rated, 1k, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides, Writers, guqin, chinese instrument, Meta, non-fiction)

How Mo Dao Zu Shi Uses Classical Chinese Literature and Ideas in Character- and World-Building by yakuzakuma (G, 5k, Reviews, Meta, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides)

Working Guide to almost every single mxtx character by Nightfeather18 (M, 1k, all the characters, every single one, help guide, Spoilers, my horrible sense of humor)

On Character's Ages by thewickling (Diviana) (G, 5k, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides, Meta, Nonfiction, Cross-posted on Dreamwidth)

On Qishan Indocrination's Duration by thewickling (Diviana) for pumpkinpaix (G, 1k, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides, Módào Zǔshī History, Qíshān Wēn Indoctrination,Timelines)

A Compiled List of Known Lan Clan Rules by Unforth (Not Rated, 2k, Meta, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides, Nonfiction, Cross-Posted on Tumblr, Podfic by dangercupcake)

A Writer's Unofficial Guide to Chinese Naming by FireflyPie (G, 2k, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides, Chinese Language, no knowledge of the MXTX novels strictly required)

List of Differences Between Modao Zushi and CQL/The Untamed by Unforth (Not Rated, 3k, Meta, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides, Nonfiction, Cross-Posted on Tumblr)

The Untamed / MDZS, resources link post, stuff I needed as a writer by AteanaLenn (G, 1k, Meta, Metafiction, resources, linkdrop, Nonfiction, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides)

Chinese naming basics for fanfiction writers by miqqumi (Not Rated, 937, Meta, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides)

MDZS Timeline by thewickling (Diviana) (G, 22k, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides, Meta, Nonfiction, Módào Zǔshī History)

Grandmaster of Demonic Timeline by chrisemrys (G, 2k, timeline, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides)

MDZS Audio Drama Episode Guide by pumpkinpaix (Not Rated, 5k, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides)

Mo Dao Zu Shi Writer Reference: Novel Chapter Summaries by threerings (Not Rated, 2k, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides, Podfic by dangercupcake)

Reference for Modao Zushi Writers: Chinese terms by chaoticjoy (G, 3k, WIP, Meta, Fanwork Research & Reference Guides)

MDZS History Context for Dummies by enbysaurus_rex (Not Rated, 14k, WIP, Meta, Analysis, Historical Accuracy, Historical Metaphors)

Ghostbusting Economics: The Great Cultivator Labor Shortage by GhostySword (G, 3k, Meta, Economics, Worldbuilding, Crack, Though honestly it's not that wild and pretty well supported by the text)

RL Cultivation 101 by Gina3 (T, 2k, Meta, cultivation, Taoism)

Fanwork Research & Reference Guides tag on AO3

WangXiantics: The (unofficial) Untamed Episode Guide by Trensu (T, 116k) although it’s a reaction work, it also serves as a list of episode summaries highlighting key moments.

dyingstar14's (unofficial) guide to writing ancient china by dyingstar14 (Not Rated, 6k, WIP, Ancient China, Ancient History, non-fiction, information, Units of Time, Hair, Units of Distance, Education)

meta and translation masterpost by @songfeng-shuiyue

The Reading of Sorrow (and other works) by Tavina (T, 10k, WIP, Meta, Worldbuilding, Yuan Dynasty (1271-1368 CE), Essays, Research, Historical References, Historical Accuracy, Chinese Mythology & Folklore, Yuan Dynasty Paintings and Painters, Future Fic, Appendixes, Music) historical research underlying the fic but I'm not in charge of sorrow (so please don't ask me when) with abundant book recs.

Who Knew the Truth About the Wen Remnants? by Karmiya (T, 8k, Meta, Essay)

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Google Docs

transcripts and translations for the entirety of The Untamed (Spreadsheets)

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Maps of MDZS

Tumblr post by mondengel

Twitter thread by @/wangxianling

Twitter thread by @/bosbiee

Tumblr post by lalunaticscribe

Stunted, Starving Juvenility - Addendum by TomatenMark

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#wangxianficfinder #Fanwork Research & Reference Guides #compilation post #Fanwork Research & Reference Guides Compilation post #mdzs #the untamed #mo dao zu shi #wangxian fic recs #Wangxian Fic Rec #The Untamed #wangxian #MDZS #wangxianficfinder compilation post

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tonhalszendvics · 5 months

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I follow some ppl who went nuts for She Who Became the Sun, and since it's the best kind of advertisement for me, I obviously read it, and was baffled. So good. Can recommend.

I tend to read actual published books mostly in my native language since, y'know, I'm pretty sure the translator speaks the og language better than me. Turns out this book is a duology and everyone and their mother already read book 2 and I'm here with book 1, which was released in 2023.

However. Someone thought that they should just use the Hungarian transcript for the names, which is kinda okay for me, since I don't speak Chinese at all and had to beg for a pronunciation chart for MDZS (but in my mind I still said those names as they were written. Let's not talk about it.) My Chinese speaking friend almost cried blood when she saw the names.

Long story short, it took me a while to decipher that people are talking about those books in detail, bc Ouyang is the only one who I was able to recognise from those posts. Esen? Who's that? Oh, you mean Jeszün, aaaaa

Here I am, avoiding spoilers like bullets in the Matrix with the power of language barrier

#for that two english speaking ones who might read this post until this point #i am so honoured #i love you #also most of hungarian words actually written as they are pronounced #so it's obvious that for different writing systems you use write it as you hear it method #why learn a transcript when you can just. write it like that.#i said that and cringe every time i see Ucsiha Szaszuke #the problem with chinese transcript is that they have like a ton of ch and ch-ish sound #you bet all of them are written as cs in hungarian #mongolian names are easier #she who became the sun #the radiant emperor #after i actually put my hands on book two i'll look up how you write Hszü Ta's name

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jgydidnothingwrong · 7 months

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20 Questions Writer Meme

Tagged by @mostlikelytofangirl. Thank you for the tag. Everyone feel free to do it!!?

How many works do you have on AO3?

56, but some are Spanish versions of my own fics

What's your total AO3 word count?

429,526

What fandoms do you write for?

Currently? SVSSS and mdzs. I wrote for KHR too and whatever I, like, get ideas for??

What are your top 5 fics by kudos?

"Come inside of my heart"

A light fic about Luo Binghe traveling between words by mistake and ending on Shen Yuan's room. My current baby.

"Euphoria"

Toji/Gojo. Straight up porn. XD.

"Sunset kiss"

Zosan, a really fluffy story about their first kiss, modern au (you know, that comercial au)

"Together again"

Another zosan fluff.

(is funny but the difference in kudos is so big between the first and the others. Also, I kinda don't remember why I write 😅)

"Dream a little dream of me"

This is an angsty fic about a Binghe who didn't come out of the Abyss. Includes a little cannibalism. Bingqiu, not exactly good end (i also think I needs heavily editing), but I like the concept very much.

Spoiler: Binghe traps himself in a dream.

Do you respond to comments? Why or why not?

I try to answer every one, even if I take a while to do it.

What is a fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?

I have one fanfic on ff.net about the bad future in Katekyo Hitman Reborn, so that one. And maybe "Dream a little dream on me", but honestly, that's a question of perspective. Binghe was happy. Lol.

What's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?

Most of what I write is happy ending 😅

Do you get hate on fics?

No, and I hope it will stay that way

Do you write smut? If so, what kind?

Yes. Idk what kind, just smut lol

Do you write crossovers? What's the craziest one you've written?

I wrote an SVSSS/mdzs and my baby "Greed, horror and love" that's basically an svss and mdzs characters in the Bloodchild from Octavia Butler universe. Aka, the alien au.

Have you ever had a fic stolen?

Not that I know off

Have you ever had a fic translated?

Yes, Euphoria has a translation to russian. I usually translate them myself to Spanish/English

Have you ever co-written a fic before?

Not really

What's your all-time favorite ship?

Dino Cavallone and Hibari Kyoya and Sam and Dean Winchester, the level of obsession I have for those two ships!! (I think bingqiu and xiyao are starting to became my new obsessions tho)

What's a wip that you want to finish, but doubt you ever will?

I have so many, but I will love to finish some wip about Shen Jiu recovering his body post canon. Is all very traumatic for SJ, and for SY too, because well, his husband is in love with *that* body, so.

What are your writing strenghts?

Do i have those? I doubt it. My only strength is being conscious that I want to write, so I will.

What are your writing weaknesses?

I forgot to store my ideas and my memory is not good and I don't really like to describe clothes.

Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language for a fic?

I don't do it.

Favorite fic you've ever written?

I like Silk Cage. I was so depressed after finishing mdzs and this was my vent fic, so... I helped me deal with my feelings over Jin GuangYao. I wrote that being sad and mad and even more sad. So it's important to me.

#SVSSS #Mdzs #Xiyao #bingqiu #jin guangyao #Writer meme #My fic #Zosan

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gekidasa · 7 months

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20 questions for fic writers

Thank you for tagging me, @jaimebluesq!

1. How many works do you have on AO3? 50!

2. What's your total AO3 word count? 133,410

3. What fandoms do you write for? MDZS, fairly exclusively right now. Aside from that: Cardcaptor Sakura is the fandom I first wrote fanfic for. I’ve written some X/TB, Tenipuri, Kamen Rider, some others. But to be honest, in most fandoms I don’t write much, if at all.

4. What are your top 5 fics by kudos?

And I will stay with you / And you will keep me close, which I just call the Sangcheng Roommates AU. This has stalled for reasons, but I do want to finish it. It’s a fun concept.

When a secret isn’t really secret, a Touya/Yuki fic! It’s actually just Yukito and Fujitaka talking about Yukito and Touya’s relationship, Touya is barely in it 😂

Heart-opening flow, my sangcheng yoga au, the first sangcheng fic I ever wrote.

The Half-Eaten Peach Longs to be Filled with Cream. Okay, I love this one. It’s sangcheng, and it’s porn.

Stay, also sangcheng. Modern au, first time they have sex. Technically it has the same rating as number 4, but it’s nowhere near as filthy.

5. Do you respond to comments? Why or why not? Yes, I try to, because while I write fic for me, the reason I share it is in the hope of getting to have conversations with others that like the characters and ship as much as I do.

6. What is a fic you wrote with the angstiest ending? I mean, I don’t really do angst, but I suppose Yaguruma’s Hell because it’s Yaguruma thinking about how he’ll take Kageyama away and they’ll be together, and that’s just before, well. Spoilers for Yaguruma and Kageyama’s story in Kamen Rider Kabuto. It doesn’t actually go into the ending, it relies on you knowing what happens.

7. What's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending? I really don’t know. I mostly write fluff, and most of them have happy endings.

8. Do you get hate on fics? I never have. I feel like mostly you don’t get hate if you don’t write for particularly popular ships in popular fandoms. Although, if I’d gotten into MDZS just 6 months or so earlier, I might have gotten hate by the infamous troll that went around harassing sangcheng fans.

9. Do you write smut? If so, what kind? Sure do! And well… I suppose you could say I often write FLUFFY smut, because it’s about characters that have strong feelings about each other, but I’d also like to think I write fairly dirty smutty (but not particularly kinky). Probably the best example of what I mean is Hold the doors, which is a nielan fic about Lan Xichen giving his neighbor that he just met, Nie Mingjue, a blowjob. It has been described as both filthy and soft.

10. Do you write crossovers? What's the craziest one you've written? Nope, not my thing, as a writer or reader.

11. Have you ever had a fic stolen? Not that I know of.

12. Have you ever had a fic translated? Nope.

13. Have you ever co-written a fic before? Also nope.

14. What's your all-time favorite ship? Probably Touya/Yukito, because it’s about than the ship itself for me at this point. They’re what got me into CLAMP, and also what got me into shipping, and I made a fansite for them that was the first site I made of any kind and that is still online. They’re the reason I learned to code.

Or sangcheng. It maybe recency bias, but they've certainly gotten me to produce more fic than any other ship.

15. What's a wip you want to finish, but doubt you ever will? Isolated Incidents, a fic about Touya and Yukito kissing. It would have been fine if I had just made it a one shot about their first kiss, but instead I decided that it would have MORE, and that I'd explore the evolution of their relationship through different kisses. It was a good idea at the time, I'd just gotten actively back into CLAMP fandom, had recoded the Touya/Yukito shrine in modern HTML and CSS, and was rewatching Cardcaptor Sakura and writting short little fics for them again. But then December 2020 came, and I decided to read MDZS... and that pretty much took over my fandom life. There's MDZS fics I haven't worked on in quite a while, but since I'm still actively in this fandom, they aren't in "probably won't finish" territory.

16. What are your writing strengths? I think I write amusing stories, and I’m not embarrassed to write smut. Also, I think I tend to have fairly defined voices for characters.

17. What are your writing weaknesses? Consistency in the sense of sticking with writing a thing. Actual plot. Those go hand in hand. It’s very hard for me to write long fics for those reasons. I often have IDEAS for fics I really like, and I might sort of… loosely plot them out, but in no way enough to actually write most of them.

18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language for a fic? Unless you actually KNOW something of the language, just avoid it. You’ll probably make a fool of yourself otherwise.

19. First fandom you wrote for? Cardcaptor Sakura, Touya/Yukito.

20. Favorite fic you've written? I don’t have a favorite. Unsatisfying, I know.

Not tagging anyone,

Changed my mind! Tagging @mulberrylotus @telperintal @angie-s-g @revesdelimonade

Anyone else do it if you want to!

#meme #about fanfic

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very-poorly-drawn-tgcf · 1 month

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Hello! I am not skilled enough to do a full fancomic of the entirety of tgcf (backgrounds and fight scenes scare me) so I will start with this instead. Aka a poorly drawn recap of the books. I can't guarantee regular updates but ya know. I can try.

This will be following the plot as told by the books (the released official english translation books, so not the revised version. If you know where to find a translation of the revised let me know)! So I'll follow through the narration of that rather than the donghua or any other adaptations. It's meant to be light-hearted but as this story gets heavy as shit, I will add cw tags as necessary.

UPDATE: I have access to the revised edition or rather the notable changes in it and will try to incorporate as possible!

Please keep in mind this was done with already having read all the books and merely re-reading them for this. So spoilers lol.

This was inspired by other such blogs on this site! Please go check them out! <3

Know others like this that aren't on the list? Let me know and I'll update the list!

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incarnadinedreams · 1 year

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So I finally finished reading TGCF! (The main novel, I haven't gotten to the extras yet). I watched the first season of the donghua ages ago (right after I watched what was available of the MDZS donghua at the time and before I read the MDZS novel), then started reading TGCF as the first volumes of the official English versions were releasing and fell off.

My original plan was to "catch up" through book 5 and just keep up with the official releases. As soon as I finished book 5 I immediately abandoned that plan and went straight to the fan translations (whatever, I'll still be buying the officials as they release so I don't feel too guilty about it).

Anyway, I am feeling..... surprisingly normal about this book? I enjoyed it and had fun reading it and so far have not felt any inklings of obsessive derangement over it.

(Extremely long and rambling first impressions/thoughts after a single quick read below the cut, probably not that interesting. May contain major spoilers, and sorta comparing it to MDZS and specifically JC a bit just because the comparisons get pushed a lot because of the overlap in the fandoms)

Anyway, as a Jiang Cheng Enjoyer I've fairly often seen people say things like 'you should just read TGCF, Mu Qing is actually what JC stans wish Jiang Cheng was' or 'Mu Qing is Jiang Cheng but done right' and I just....... kinda don't see it?

Anyway... Is it just me? Am I stupid and missing something?

I mean, there are some obvious parallels and MXTX very clearly has a pattern/dynamic/formula she likes with the 'best friend side characters' slot, re-used some similar surface-level descriptions for Mu Qing that had been applied to Jiang Cheng (bad-tempered, sarcastic, unlikable, good looking, etc). So I'm definitely not saying people are totally wrong for seeing a connection there.

But they didn't actually feel all that similar to me beyond a handful of traits? And not only because of the tragic lack of jilfy purple electro-whip.

I think part of the problem is that Mu Qing suffered from a serious case of "tell, don't show" in his portrayal... in the text we're being told by other characters that he's so unlikable or has such a nasty personality or is so untrustworthy... but then rarely or never actually says or does anything "on camera" to show that?

Like, this isn't "he has done nothing wrong!" in the "I shall protect this precious blorbo of my heart" way, it's in the "ummmmmm... he has actually... not done anything wrong in this situation...? And I am confused as to why these characters are reacting to him in a way that is so wildly out of proportion to what has actually happened?"

As much as I love Jiang Cheng, he does at least actually say some mean things "on screen" in the novel to earn that bad-tempered sharp-tongued characterization. I might personally think he was perfectly justified in saying about 98% of them and being pissed as hell, but at least he actually does the being angry and bitter and verbal lashing out that he's characterized with. (Though I think he actually does a lot less of it than people seem to think, as most of the time he's just being pretty normal actually. But there are some scenes at least.) Of course, conversely, Wei Wuxian does also do many more actually bad things to balance it out too and make JC's on-screen anger/reactions make a lot more sense.

But Mu Qing on the other hand... a few snippy comments and some eye rolling? Everything else always ends up being someone else baselessly accusing him based on some accidental circumstances that got cleared up with reasonable explanations. His involvement in the whole turf war over the meditation place was mostly him showing up after the rest of them had already made up their minds and he was trying to de-escalate the situation without losing the job he was using to support his mother with or creating more problems.

The only kinda bad things I think he does (be okay with the idea of using the Human Face Disease against the Yong'an people to stop it from spreading in the Xianle capital city) is one of the few things that nobody actually has any issue with him for! You could argue that it was bad to get Hua Cheng kicked out of the army... but also he was 14 and there are no actual details given and tbh that kid was kinda creepy from an outside perspective (even if I liked him)...

To be honest I'd seen a few people making vague comments about his "betrayal" in the past so I knew it was coming, but "I'm gonna go take care of my mom instead of doing these former rich fuck's laundry" was so deeply underwhelming on the betrayal scale I was like "wait, that's it?"

I mean there was not even a siege involved...? Not a single declaration of hatred? Not even a little bit of threatened torture?

Anyway, I was already still feeling some kind of way about that royal laundry situation when I got to the scene in Mt Tonglu where Mu Qing is all "I was in awe of you, you're a better person than me and I wanted to be your friend" while Xie Lian is like "um well you'd spit in someone's cup but you wouldn't poison it so I don't want you to die I guess."

I just felt sort of vaguely put off by the whole exchange and the sense of a total lack of reciprocity from Xie Lian. His whole vibe is "well I don't dislike you enough to let you die, and saving people is my thing in general so, y'know, here I am saving you."

Because what made the whole dynamic work in MDZS was how (even if the characters didn't necessarily know it about the other) they just cared about each other so much, to an absolutely unhinged degree, and that felt missing here. So even though WWX has some of the same vibe of negative or resentful opinions of JC at points, it hits different because they're laid on the backdrop of an utterly unhinged sacrifice specifically and uniquely for Jiang Cheng (which, unknown to WWX, was needed because of a more standard in type but but still unhinged sacrifice of his own that was specifically and uniquely for WWX)

I don't necessarily mind that specific relationship being different or less intense in TGCF (in fact I prefer that it's not just a copy-paste of the same characters going by different names with a bit more polish, the way some people made it sound like it would be), but the way that specific scene played out given the backdrop of how MQ keeps getting treated throughout the rest of the story just felt icky to me. Idk.

A lot of the way the characters interacted with each other just felt like the action and reactions were a little mismatched or something? Something about the behaviors involved didn't ring as painfully, horribly, clearly true to me as they did in so many MDZS scenes.

Anyway I did enjoy both Mu Qing and Feng Xin as characters, I'll definitely be indulging in some FengQing content (recs/links welcome if anyone actually read this far lol), just specifically their relationship with Xie Lian did not inspire in me even a teensy fraction of the depths of absolute feral obsession that the Yunmeng Shuangjie relationship does. It... just did not resonate that way with me. If I had to speculate (in a wild and baseless fashion, source: my ass), I think that toning down the intensity might have even been intentional on the author's part this go around.

Anyway a lot of that was mostly because the expectation of a strong parallel and deep reaction to the Xianle trio's relationship was pre-planted in my mind, and such expectations are generally always doomed to fall short anyway.

As far as the rest of the novel, like I said - it was generally quite enjoyable, I had fun reading it, I'm certainly not trying to trash it! I'd say I actually overall enjoyed the HuaLian relationship developing in the novel itself more than WangXian, in terms of how the flirting was executed. Like "what if you had an extremely dangerous and fervently obsessed stalker, but also make it cute". I don't dislike WangXian, but for me their relationship was just a fun side-plot and not what I really cared about or kept reading for. I did find the Hong-er and lantern ghost flashback scenes quite touching and sweet.

The first ~200 chapters (by the web novel serialization chapter numbers) I'd say were generally constructed better than MDZS, so I see where people say there was a bit of a level up there. The last ~40ish chapters the pacing felt kind of off to me, like there was just too much crammed in and MXTX just wanted it to be over and done with.

The 'uncovering secrets of an ancient lost empire/kingdom' type of plot is my absolute jam, my favoritest trope of all time, I actually loved the concepts there. It was like a two-for-one, since we got the learn about the fall of Xianle which scratched that itch a little bit, and then the full-on mystery aspect with Wuyong. I wish there had been more time spent on the mystery/uncovering information about Wuyong aspect of the plot rather than the answers coming relatively quickly.

Unsurprisingly in addition to Feng Xin and Mu Qing, I was a huge fan of Yushi Huang, Ling Wen, Shi Qingxuan, He Xuan, Lang Qianqiu (his adorable golden retriever energy is irresistible when combined with a Tragic Backstory), Guzi, Yin Yu, Quan Yizhen

Surprise favs were Pei Ming (I'd only seen through the donghua S1 so I kinda had him categorized in my mind as the offscreen God of Fuckboys, but ended up liking him an unreasonable amount) and Qi Rong

Anyway I had all of these thoughts while I was reading then felt a bit guilty about them when I read the postscript because I am the person she was afraid of coming over to read TGCF after MDZS :x

#rambling about tgcf #and specifically some thoughts I had about the comparisons I've seen floating around between jiang cheng and mu qing #not particularly well thought out or anything

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piosplayhouse · 2 years

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Is there anything particularly triggering in SVSSS? I've been putting it off for awhile and finally have time to read it.

I will admit, there's kind of a lot of content that could be triggering in sv, and it's something that it gets a fair amount of criticism for; however, I'd argue that mdzs and tgcf probably have near equal amounts of tws attached to them, so if you already read those I think you'd have minimal things to look out for. However, it's definitely a personal thing for you to decide, so I'll list all of the ones that I can think of with minimal spoilers!!

If I forgot anything that my followers would like to add, feel free to add to notes or send an ask! : -) And of course, just to reiterate, if any of these warnings feel like too much to you, or if you have specific things you want to ask about/clarification, feel free to send another ask or reply and I'll do my best!

TW List:

Student x Teacher Relationship - not represented as grooming in the slightest onscreen, and characters both have equal power dynamics when they get together, but ik the concept can be triggering anyway! However there is also

Mentions/Accusations of Grooming - is not actually committed within the story and confirmed false for the character they're laid against

Age Gap - very loosely between the main couple, directly shown once between extremely minor characters during one scene and criticized the whole time

Graphic Torture Scenes (Dismemberment)

Child Abuse

Child Death

Internalized Homophobia

Transphobia - themes in the first arc can be read as transphobic, but it's short and up to interpretation. A transphobic slur is used once in the official Seven Seas translation of volume 4 in the second extra, on page 70 (print edition).

Mentions of Sexualization of Underage Girls - sv heavily critiques this

Dubcon/Noncon* - the one explicit sexual scene regarding this only occurs in one chapter, is nonromanticized, and is fully skippable. There are some other non/dubious consensual scenes with regards to things like kissing and blood drinking.

Mentions/Accusations of Necrophilia - is not actually committed in the story, to the point of being deliberately disproved throughout the extra chapters. However, it is a common discussion topic amongst side characters during some key scenes.

Suicidal Actions/Self Harm

Attempted Forced Abortion/Miscarriage - mentioned once offhandedly in reference to an (in-universe) book character, touched on in the form of a flashback/backstory of a character late into the narrative (book 4).

Ummm there's probably some more I don't remember off the top of my head, but again if you have anything specific you're looking for, feel free to ask and I'll check!! Again keep yourself safe, and if any of this seems like too much to you, don't feel pressured to read it at all! ^^ Hope you have a good day and end up enjoying your free time no matter how you spend it!

Deaging - present only in the "Return to Childhood" extra in book 4

Racism - explicitly in canon against demons, including the main character; implicitly in the meta against North/Central Asians, of which demons are arguably coded as. Demon culture is shown to be noticeably more violent than human culture, which rings similar to harmful Chinese stereotypes of Central Asian peoples.

#svsss #trigger warnings

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Multifandom Silliness: Who's the Lan Wangji in this Series/Ship?

if you don't know your Mo Dao Zu Shi (or its sanitised, webseries adaption CQL/"The Untamed"), allow me to briefly introduce him for the purposes of this Silliness:

LAN WANGJI (courtesy name)

gained the title "Hanguang-jun" during a war, in reference to his "bringing hope wherever the chaos is" AKA being The Cavalry to even the most desperate of fights. the title roughly translates to "Light-bearing Lord" and additionally refers to the brightness/strength of his [sword glare] & his white robes.

had been Gay Pining for decades by the start of MDZS: his white robes now a symbol of grief, acting much like a war widow.

the "gay" part was not public knowledge but LWJ is VERY HOMOSEXUAL.

BUFF (& pretty): LWJZ is buff as all heck, nvm what his Pretty Boy reputation might say. he regularly does one-handed pushups, often while writing with that other hand. MUSCLES.

he is a famously talented musician: he uses this to not only destroy evil but also further his Gay Agenda, composing a love song when he was 15.

Poetic License: LWJ relays his observations & opinions very concisely and poetically, signalling his high intelligence & artistry. this is something lost in translation to english, where being concise is interpreted as being somewhat rude & socially awkward.

is VERY petty, if you have the background context to realise his beautiful words are often veiled insults.

"Equals": is Gay for one Wei Wuxian, someone both infamously evil & famously selfless. WWX is unanimously understood as being a genius: their first meeting involved a moonlit duel where both found in the other their "true equal" in every sense, martial & intellectual.

a romantic & an idealist, one who became Jaded but who eventually found his faith restored via...

spoilers: LWJ & WWX end up happily gay married and are very public in their affections.

NOW THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, let's figure out who Else is the "Hanguang-jun" of their respective Stories!

KINGDOM HEARTS: Riku

"Hanguang-jun": not-so much in the earlier titles of KH but, overall & ESPECIALLY as the series goes on, Riku's Strength is depicted as a literal, blinding Light. he also has white/silver hair.

Gay Pining: while not outright stated, context established Riku as 1) Gay and 2) PINING. it's literally a Plot Point (sometimes even THE plot).

BUFF (& pretty): Riku is just that much older than KH's protagonist, Sora, to ensure Riku is considered Tall, Strong & Handsome. the "pretty" part comes from being an Anime boy.

PETTY: before he felt secure & at peace with his Gay Pining, Riku had A Whole Villain Arc because of an Assumed Love Triangle that was not in his favour. he has technically outrgrown this now but it WAS a big enough deal in the overall plot fo be something he Can Never Live Down.

"Equals": the subject of his Gay Pining is thematically paired with Riku at every opportunity. they fight in-synch, their hearts beat in tune, they are sources for each other's Strength.

while never seen singing or playing instruments, DDD features Riku finding & manifesting his "heart song": it doesn't become "music" until Sora does the same on his side of the dream. the song their hearts make together? the leitmotif of KH as a whole: "Dearly Beloved".

Poetic License: Riku prefers action to words but most of KH's theme songs are from HIS POV. another instance of his relaying great depth with few words? Chain of Memories has 2 poems, one to end each "Side" of its story: Riku's poem is VERY WOW.

Riku is, if the above had not made it glaringly apparent, at heart a romantic: he believes in True Love, in legends about paopu fruit & forever, in sacrificing yourself for who you love. this, uh, kind of blew up in his face upon hitting the "edgelord" phase of puberty: fairy tales are about princes and princeSSES, not knights. Riku's idealism made him susceptible to manipulation as those ideals were put into question.

Riku does not currently believe he can have his own Happily Ever After: he has, instead, resolved to ensure that his Dearly Beloved has HIS (even if it's not with Him).

A Song of Ice & Fire: Brienne

"Hanguang-jun": Brienne is considered the embodiment of all a knight should be... were it not for her being female. she "goes where the chaos is" (the Riverlands, where the War of the Five Kings has left the land lawless & fraught with danger) and saves the helpless. in one of Jamie's dreams, Brienne bears a literal sword of light and so turns his nightmare into [an unrealized crush] sign of Hope. she bears a very shiny Valryian Steel sword named "Oathkeeper".

Gay Pining: while Brienne is female & her love interests male, her FIRST love was a gay man & her SECOND love is VERY QUEERCODED. she pines and she pines in a very "it will never be, he'd never feel the same because of who i am, i am devoted even as he knows it not" manner that is Very Gay Pining-esque.

BUFF (& pretty): Brienne is a giant of a woman & triumphed over older, more experienced men in a tournament melee. SHE HAS ALL OF THE MUSCLES. she is not, however, considered "pretty" and her nickname of "Brienne the Beauty" is meant as a cruelty. Jamie Lannister, however, has Accidentally Swooned over Brienne at least thrice (in the books, doing more than just "swooning" in That Dragon Show).

when Jamie is fevered and delirious at being Unhanded, he finds comfort in Brienne singing to him: it's unknown whether her singing was any GOOD but it makes sense that she'd secretly enjoy music (& that this interest was never encouraged in her childhood).

while she is not an eloquent speaker, Brienne is a romantic & an idealist: she has had moments of profound insight. only moments, however: she's never received the kind of privileged education that LWJ had.

"Equals": Jamie Lannister, undeniably.

...ASOIAF is not kind to idealists & unlikely to give ANYONE a "Happily Ever After". that's what Fandom is for: many a "fix-fic" has been written in response to That Dragon Show, and artists have made truly beautiful images showing Brienne with her dreams realised.

Genshin Impact: Diluc?

"Hanguang-jun": Diluc is very deliberately designed in homage to Batman, the Dark Knight... but his Pyro Vision inevitably results in his brightening the night, where he chases chaos & saves others from great peril.

BUFF (& pretty): while Genshin Impact limits its muscular models to NPCs & enemies, Diluc is ALLEGEDLY "buff" and should be so following the logic of his being 1) a former knight and 2) an active claymore wielder. Genshin, as a very anime-game, makes ALL its playable characters pretty: Diluc's 5-star skin "upgraded" his hair to REALLY push that point home, enabling him to reach Peak Pretty Boy.

Diluc, as a fancy rich boy, PROBABLY knows how to play at least 1 musical instrument: Mondstadt's patron god IS an Orpheus Expie, after all. his various VAs have certainly put their musical talents to use, in fancovers or in other series they've worked in.

eloquent & concise: this varies from dub to dub but the Vibe remains, if only for his Blatant Batman Invoking.

just like LWJ, Diluc is a romantic & an idealist who has grown jaded over time.

Gay Pining? the ENG dub, as all english dubs seem to do, translated Diluc's Very Queercoded Word for what one Cavalry Captain Kaeya once was for him into... "adopted brother". in CHINESE, however, similar if not identical words used to describe LWJ & WWX in relation to each other: their vibe is more "Bitter Exes" than the "Mourning Widower" type of Gay Pining exhibited by the others in this list.

Genshin's story is ongoing, Diluc's home region has had its main story on Hold so as to return with Greatet impact. hopefully Diluc won't end up like EITHER of his Creative Inspirations (Batmab & Murata Himeko) when Genshin's main story returns to Monsdtadt & Diluc.

Voltron Legendary Defender: Shiro or Keith?

"Hanguang-jun": as the Leader of Voltron, Shiro brought hope to the universe. he may have piloted the Black Lion but the grey in his hair Sure Did Foreshadow his hair going wholly white (& his ultimately piloting a "white" lion-esque ship for humanity). Keith is ever connected with darkness: he is Shiro's successor in all things but ever walks in his shadow (very much deliberately).

Gay Pining: Shiro is the character "canonically" gay but it's KEITH who exhibits all the Trademarked Characteristics. Keith has a Dark Phase about his gay pining. Keith accepts his gay pining during his attempt to redeem himself. Keith resolves to ensure his beloved's happiness, often at the expense of his own. Keith spends the entirety of Voltron (epilogue included, ouch) screaming "i am a gay widower whose love died unrealised & now i fight about it".

so it turns out that deep space astronaut training &intergalactic warfare don't give you much time to showcase any musical talent you may or may not have.

Poetic License: as leaders, both have their moments of profound, concise wisdom. Keith is angstier about it though.

"Equals": Keith & Shiro start out on UNequal footing but, during the series itself, Shiro attempts to make Keith his successor for his (believed) inevitable demise: Keith spends his time metaphorically kicking and screaming that NO DYING ALLOWED, the two eventually compromising by BOTH of them taking up leadership roles. all the space/time shenanigans ALSO, incidentally, enable Keith to pull a "not a little kid anymore" on Shiro, cementing their new status as "equals" (again, forget S8).

Buff & Pretty: as anime boys, both Keith & Shiro are Pretty. as an astronaut-turned-supersoldier, Shiro starts out BUFF. post-Space Whale family reunion trip, Keith becomes "buffier "but remains very much in Pretty Boy territory.

Romantic Idealists: Shiro was his academy's Poster Boy for a REASON. Keith screamed of "i am angsty because everything i've dreamed of has died" but seems at least 25% returned from the side of cynicism by the end of Voltron (in s7 because, as above, There Is No S8).

#hanguang jun #crossfandom parallels #character meta #mdzs meta #kh meta #asoiaf meta #genshin impact meta #gay pining as a shared character motif #riku is the light #brienne & jamie are lightbringer?#oh gods asoiaf was set in the KH universe all along #sora is never allowed to see westeros #diluc & kaeya are not brothers #fellas is it gay to duel in the moonlight while referencing literature with each other #the animus #all of these characters seem to have gone through the heroine journey framework #funny how intersectionality works #wangxian #soriku #oathkeepers #kaeluc #sheith #character studies #this got long and i can still think of additiomal examples #both in terms of shared characteristics & additional fandom equivalents #but i've burnt out on some of those fandoms with easier parallels & this post got longer than intended as is

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captainkirkk · 1 year

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A rec for you! If you're a fan of SVSS in particular, 2ha aka Husky and His White Cat Shizun is a chinese novel that's very similar. Spoiler free plot is essentially evil emperor is reborn back to his disciple self & learns not everything is as it seems & his teacher isn't actual terrible like he thought etc. Teacher is one of those characters with no self-esteem & a soft heart and main is very big simp. fan translation is only 1/2 done but offical translations by the same company as mdzs & tgcf

Oh man, I've seen the 2ha fandom floating around online but I never read the novel since it looks so angsty. I AM planning on watching the live action drama though if/when it comes out

#ask #anon

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web-novel-polls · 8 months

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[Link to submissions]

This would allow divine items and weapons, such as Taerang (a divine relic from LCF that turns into a gun), into the tournament. There wasn't a specific reason I made it cultivation weapons specifically - I just forgot most people aren't weird about weapons like me, and it might be a bit niche for just cultivation weapons. The submission deadline will likely be extended regardless, and if there's a clear winner to this poll, I may not wait till it's done.

Submissions & Dealer's Choice under the cut

(CW: suggestive language, spoilers)

Submissions

Xuan Su - Yue Qingyuan’s sword (SVSSS)

No propaganda submitted

Xuan Su is Yue Qingyuan’s iconic sword that is only drawn twice after he suffers from a qi deviation bonding his life force to Xuan Su.

Zheng Yang - Luo Binghe’s sword (SVSSS)

Submission: Something about a childhood sword that was broken, then preserved, then restored, and in the end was the one that remained, instead of the more powerful one that brought only misery.

Potential Dealer's Choice

(Submit these to make sure they make it in & add propaganda!)

2ha / the Husky and His White Cat Shizun

Jiangui / Ah! What the Hell

“There is only one person in this world who can open Ever-Yearning. This person is extremely important in your life; you must love this person dearly, and this person must also love you in return, and be wholly devoted to you.” - Ji Baihua regarding the Ever-Yearning box containing Jiangui

Mo Ran’s Holy weapon in his second life, Jiangui - which translates to “Ah! What the hell” due to Mo Ran accidentally exclaiming this when opening the Ever-Yearning box.

Bu’gui [“No Return”] / Guilai [“To Return”]

“No Return… Affairs of the past upon vermillion bridge in emerald green; Another year goes but still you do not return.” - Chapter 81

Bu’gui was Mo Ran’s sword in the original timeline that he received by bringing a plum blossom branch to an old dragon named Wangyue. He had Chu Wanning seal it until he could think of a name for it, and it was only named “No Return” after Chu Wanning’s death.

In the second lifetime, he received Jiangui instead, but Bu’gui appeared once more at Xuanyuan Pavilion and was auctioned off to the Rufeng Sect for 5 million; this time it was referred to as Guilai or “To Return.”

CWN - Tianwen, Jiu’ge, Huaisha (undecided)

Longcheng / Dragon City - Xue Meng’s sword

Since Xue Meng could not receive a holy weapon from Jincheng Lake, he used Longcheng, a high-quality scimitar from Taxue Palace. From what I remember, Mo Ran gifted him the Wangshu Crystal from the Carp Essence that was requested by Song Qiutong to help him cultivate/add to his sword, making it something similar to a “heavenly weapon.”

Xue Zhengyong’s fan

While this fan is never named, Xue Zhengyong’s fan is well-known due to the writing on it - “Xue is beautiful” (which faces others) and “others are ugly” (which faces him). It really is iconic

“Xue is beautiful, others are ugly.” - Chapter 31

MDZS

Suibian

Suibian is Wei Wuxian’s sword that sealed itself after his death. Its name translates to “Whatever” due to Wei Wuxian’s inability to think of a suitable name and telling Jiang Fengmian to name it “whatever.” This is, in my opinion, the funniest thing Jiang Fengmian has ever done in his life

Bichen

Yes, this is the sword Wei Wuxian stuck up his ass in the Incense Burner Extra. It’s also Lan Wangji’s main weapon that was included in the iconic “Lan Wangji calling Wei Wuxian his scene” where Wei Wuxian believes he’s pointing toward Bichen (Chapter 31). It’s a legend, and I would be doing a disservice to Jin Guangyao (who Bichen defeated in the first round of the Danmei Character Tournament) if I did not include it.

#cultivation weapon tournament #administrative polls #my polls #a submission for another tournament thanked me for all the 'work' I put into these tournaments which is very very sweet #& it does require work but this would be my absolute dream job tbh lol. I love being a freak about weapons & the thematic implications #the zheng yang submitter understands imo

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