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Rhaenyra getting more shit for staying on Dragonstone instead of in King's Landing to play the political game or whatever than Viserys gets for recalling Otto as Hand, thus pretty much handing power to the faction he knows to be his heir's political opponents and metaphorically shooting Rhaenyra in the political kneecaps, is one of the most Takes in a fandom full of Takes
#like if you're gonna point to rhaenyra fucking up on that one you ought to point to viserys too#could she have done more to shore up her claim? sure. could viserys have done more to shore up her claim? hell fucking yeah#sorry but showing up on his literal last day wasn't enough#he should have made *her* the hand after lyonel's death#the fact that he didn't and instead recalled otto is the dumbest most insane decision taken by anyone in the show so far#and the one thing that most contributed to creating the conditions for the aegon/rhaenyra face-off to happen#also like if we're talking optics how do you think it looks like to the court & co that instead of HIS ACTUAL HEIR#he chose otto?? it looks like he doesn't trust his heir to rule is what it looks like#and also!! it's a pattern with viserys. he keeps rhaenyra as cupbearer after naming her heir. he puts alicent on the small council for some#reason even as she's going around in hightower loyalties green. which is even more ?? when you remember the firing otto scene#ep6 shows alicent ordering rhaenyra around shooting her down etc. viserys doesn't even try to fight on the helaena/jace proposal#with otto back as hand even if she'd been in kl rhaenyra would have been in a shit position#and the optics wouldn't have been good either everyone would have seen power was on the otto&alicent side not the heir's#again: could she have fought harder? sure. did viserys create the conditions for her to be sidelined in the first place? duh fucking duh#house of the dragon#westerosi politics
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Contemplating whether or not I should just buy all of the glee albums on iTunes for my flights to and from Australia-
#is it going to be a lot of money? yes#do I pretty much only listen to glee covers and the occasional musical? also yes#and planes do not have Wi-Fi (at least economy class don’t-)#and considering we are going on a seven hour boat trip complete with a dinner party under the new year fireworks in Sydney#i cannot complain about economy class flights#(this sounds so Sebastian of me I promise I’m not a snob-)#i am going to download my fave glee episodes on Disney+ too#but like they won’t have the full songs#and what about songs like ‘into the groove’? it’s such a vibe but I refuse to download the puppet episode#i will be downloading all of Sebastian’s episodes despite the fact he’s barely in ‘love love love’#i will sit through Kl*ine’s proposal for him#ughhh stay tuned I’m gonna go look up how much it’ll be
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I know people have this fantasy that Helaena would marry some Stark, Tully or Tyrell but a fantasy is truly what it is.
If she married Aegon or not, Helaena was never going anywhere. She claimed one of the biggest dragons in the world as a child, a female dragon who has laid eggs. Her only choices were always going to be one of her brothers or her nephews HAD THEY NOT been bastards. Or maybe it would have been a Hightower cousin, or one of Corlys Velaryon’s nephews but whoever her husband was, he was never going to be the Warden of anything or the Lord of his own castle. Helaena was never going to leave Kingslanding.
Alicent may have wanted her daughter close to her to protect her because of Helaena’s nature and because of her own experiences as a child bride but Viserys (who doesn’t know Helaena or give a damn about her personally) was definitely not marrying Helaena out to someone powerful and putting more trueborn obstacles in Rhaenyra’s way when he already had 3 trueborn Valyrian looking sons who would marry someday.
Targaryen daughters may marry out for a generation but their child is expected to marry back in. Daella was married into house Arryn but Aemma was married back in. Also to note that Daella was a second wife and her husband already had heirs, Visarra had she not died would have been married to a Lord who had already married several times and had already had heirs. Their sons would hold no lands, raise no armies full of vassal houses of their own. Rhaenys’s mother married into House Targaryen and Rhaenys married into house Velaryon and gave house Velaryon 2 more dragon riders in addition to herself. Thats why bringing her line back into the family was an important issue for the Targaryens. Helaena- a Dragon rider who could be fertile as her mother in her early years- would’ve given a non Valyrian house Valyrian blood and more potential Dragon riders.
Say Helaena marries an inheriting son of some Lord Paramount. Let’s give her 2 future Dragon riders and possibly a third as Maelor was too young when he was murdered at Rhaenyra’s request. This is 4 Dragons to whichever house she married into. These 4 dragons have an entire army behind them. They have legitimacy. What if her husband and father in law decide that the throne should be her son’s (like Rhaenys attempted to secure it on behalf of Laenor at the Great council) because Rhaenyra committed treason, sons are bastards and by law they can’t inherit anything (it’s high time we acknowledge that Rhaenyra, Laenor, Harwin, Viserys and Corlys were all breaking the law or complicit in the breaking of it.)
Team Black would hate Helaena Lady of house Stark/Tyrell/Tully/Lannister/Martell with a husband and a supportive extended family to back her because she would always choose her family over Rhaenyra’s like she does in canon.
So people need to stop blaming Alicent for this and realize that Helaena’s options were very limited and remember that in this world it’s normally a Father’s job to organize their daughter’s betrothals. HOTD seems to have thrown this piece of Lore out of the window in favor of trying to make Alicent look like a villain and for stupid scenes like Rhaenyra proposing the betrothal of the twins to their Grandmother instead of their father that she’s married to and lives with.
Literally this.
I never understood why it was so difficult for people to understand why Alicent decided to marry Helaena to Aegon. It always made sense to me personally. There are two main reasons to this:
a) Helaena is a very vulnerable girl, more vulnerable than anyone. By marrying her to Aegon, Alicent keeps her close to herself, in KL, where no one could hurt her.
b) Helaena as a dragonrider is very valuable. If she marries to some remote lord and then they pledge allegiance to Rhaenyra for whatever reason, TG is fucked and they lose a dragon. They need Dreamfyre if they want to win this war.
Helaena also couldn’t marry Jace or any other of Rhaenyra’s bastards, for a very simple reason. They are literally bastards and everyone knows it, and she would’ve become a hostage during the Dance. Also, the realm most likely would never accept Jace as a king, because no matter how kind and nice he is, he is still a bastard and that would cause a lot for problems.
#house of the dragon#hotd#pro team green#team green#anti team black#anti team black stans#helaena targaryen
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I also believe Littlefinger was never in love with Catelyn. He is as you say is acting out a fantasy and that fantasy is young Cat, the girl with whom he grew up and wanted to marry but not the actual woman i.e Catelyn who is married to Ned. The show murked this emotion from Baelish's POV when they had him propose marriage to Cat in second season whereas in the books Cat and Petyr never cross paths after she departs from KL. I don't think he had any intention of wanting Catelyn back and probably has realised that ship has sailed after she is married to Ned with five children which is why the "fantasy enactment" angle is truer for him and his relationship with Sansa. In fact he asked for her hand in marriage just after she becomes a political hostage. Catelyn is still alive at this time of the plot and nothing about the Red Wedding has taken motion.
I agree.
Edmure had called on him as well, but Petyr had sent him away. Her brother had acted as Brandon's squire at the duel, and Littlefinger would not forgive that.
(AGOT, Catelyn VII)
Why on earth would Littlefinger forgive Catelyn, then? She gave Brandon her favor for that duel, never visited him while he was recovering, and she never replied (or even read) the letter he had sent her after Brandon's death. She moved on as if he didn't matter - because he didn't matter.
Littlefinger is taking his vengeance on the entirety of Houses Tully and Stark, and Catelyn is part of both. He destroys her family, reacts not at all to her death. He has not loved Catelyn in a long time. He probably never really did. She was always part of a fantasy of belonging in a world he was only visiting as a ward. His "love" is as twisted as Lysa's.
His desire to reenact his childhood love fantasy with Sansa (like Tyrion does with Shae over Tysha, like Ygritte does with Jon over that kid who failed to steal her, really, like Jorah does with Dany over Lynesse...) exists alongside his vengeance plan, potentially influences it in the details. It will certainly prove his downfall. But it's not fuelled by love for Catelyn. Only by the hurt feelings of the past.
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It's funny when these people pretend to like book! Rhaenyra, and when they explain why they like her, they basically describe her in the same way that people who hate her do.
También es irónico cómo estas personas se llaman a sí mismas "equipo de mujeres malvadas" y luego lloran y vilipendian a Rhaenyra porque no quería estar en una fiesta de cumpleaños donde le iban a faltar el respeto, y luego dicen que estaba siendo mala con un niño, del que ni siquiera ha hecho una broma inofensiva. ¿Se supone que debo creer que te gustan personajes como Cersei cuando ni siquiera soportas a un adolescente con razones justificables para estar enojado?
Yeah I've got manyyyy issues with people like op. Like you said, the way they describe Rhaenyra is...telling. As is how they describe Alicent.
First of all: op claims that Alicent tried to "mend the relationship" between Rhaenyra and Aegon. That's just false. Alicent proposed Viserys marry Aegon to Rhaenyra, in an attempt to get Aegon closer to the throne. Which is partially why Viserys refused to approve the match.
Op is engaging in a lot of speculation, like the claim that "Daemon manipulated Rhaenyra" into hating her siblings. There's literally no evidence that Rhaenyra hates her siblings prior to Luke's murder. Is she close to them? Not her brothers, no, but she did have some kind of relationship with Helaena, as is implied by her calling her "my sweet sister, Helaena."
I'm not going to go into how op sees Daemon, but I will say, how they view him and Rhaenyra is basically just how Hess does. Rhaenyra isn't allowed to form her own opinions on her family, negative or otherwise, and Daemon is an evil monster.
I will agree with op that Rhaenyra isn't a good person, however, that's the only time. The things op accuses Rhaenyra of are...really not true other than the fact that she fed Vaemond to Syrax.
They accuse her of "offering her brothers for Laenor...she hosted a lavish feast in a starving city, she was a woman and let the men do the fighting."
Let's unpack that. The quote op is referring to concerning Laenor is:
"My half-brothers would be more to his taste," [Rhaenyra] told the king.
Fire & Blood: Heirs of the Dragon - A Question of Succession
This is taken out of context in the worst possible way by op. Rhaenyra is arguing with her father about marrying Laenor, trying to convince him not to force her to marry him. She's referencing the fact that Laenor is gay, she's in no way "offering" her brothers to him. This is an intentional choice to interpret Rhaenyra's choices as they're written in the worst possible light.
Op continues this with a very tired argument many Rhaenyra antis use: that Rhaenyra feasted in KL. The only evidence of this happening is from Septon Eustace. A man who wasn't even in KL, was noted by the writers of F&B to be unreliable due to his hatred of Rhaenyra, and who literally crowned Aegon. So, using critical thinking, we can infere that the idea that Rhaenyra feasted in KL is extremely unlikely.
As for the fighting, yes Rhaenyra didn't fight. That was due to the fact that she had no training and was recovering from a traumatic miscarriage. Normally I wouldn't point this out as an issue, but op groups it in with Rhaenyra's "flaws". Somehow, Rhaenyra not fighting in battles is a mark against her as a person. Again, intentionally a bad faith interpretation.
No, I agree with op that HOTD's changes to Rhaenyra are shitty, but the reasons are just very off. For example:
I agree with parts of this, but I do want to point out a few things. Such as, why are they calling out Arya fans? Like what does that have to do with anything? I'm sure it's because Arya is a non-conforming woman, which op isn't a fan of, considering their seeming obsession with femininity. It shows how op's personal biases are influencing their view of both the show and the book.
I'm right there with you anon on the their spiel about Aegon's birthday. Rhaenyra was being disrespected and undermined by everyone after the birth of her brother. Is it any wonder that she wasn't excited to go to an event where everyone was expecting her to be disinherited? Op literally was just saying how they loved Rhaenyra "hating" her siblings lmao.
Op also complains about the white hart incident, as well as Aegon's prophecy. This is very much a revealing complaint. They said they hate Rhaenyra being made into the "protagonist" of the show. This is interesting since Rhaenyra is the protagonist of the Dance in the book too. She's morally gray, but it's still a fact; the greens are the antagonists and the blacks are the protagonists. The white hart was confirmation of Rhaenyra being the true heir, something which is also true in the book. I don't understand how that fact being affirmed is wrong.
As for Aegon's prophecy, this is something almost every single Rhaenyra anti has complained about. This is something GRRM himself told the showrunners he wanted, which some people complain is a retcon. It's not, the books aren't done yet, this is GRRM giving us new information about his unfinished work. It also confirmed how off the rails D&D's ending is according to what GRRM has planned for the books.
Anyway, op also really hates daemyra, another thing that's very much book accurate. Op purposefully chooses to ignore any textual evidence that daemyra was more than a political alliance, but they have a history of picking and choosing canon.
I very much agree with you anon about how shallow op's love of Cersei seems to be. They strike me as the kind of person who refuses to see the grayness GRRM is known for. After all, they are frothing at the mouth at the idea of Rhaenyra being a complex character, so I somehow doubt that they can appreciate Cersei's complexity.
#rhaenyra targaryen#house of the dragon#asoiaf#team black#anti hotd#to be clear#i hate the changes to rhaenyra in the show too#anti rhaenyra antis#daemyra
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List of HotD Inconsistencies:
(This list will be Continuously Added the more I realize where there is an inconsistency)
Daemon saying to Rhaenyra that he left her bc she "was a child" in episode 7 -- he was the one who said to Viserys to marry them for the sake of the House and that he wanted her, the only thing he asked Viserys in spite of all he wanted; he also said she was not a girl anymore (she's past Westerosi marriageable age and older than 18); Laena is younger than Rhaenyra in the show, yet Daemon married her not long after he left KL, assuming so since we have another time jump after episode 5; Rhaenys and Corlys had a larger age gap than either Daemyra or Aemma x Viserys/Viserys x Alicent and Corlys would have been attracted and talking to Rhaenys for a while before they married for her to be so adamant about marrying him when she was 16....yet the show changes all that
Alicent is adamant in saving Rhaenyra despite having tried to essentially get her and her kids killed or exiled for 10 years
Daemon himself had to claim Caraxes, he didn't bond with him when he was a baby or small child, yet he doesn't know how to comfort his daughter Rhaena about the same "issue" that is actually not an issue at all
a possible relationship with Criston Cole is framed and shit as if it were the most romantic and healthy relationship Rhaenyra could have had aside from the one with Harwin (who still is messing around with a person way younger than him who he had been attracted to since before she hit 18) -> the music and the actors' playfulness of episode 4, the hopefulness of Criston's proposal unpaired with any indication of what a delusion he's drawn up of who she is despite living and talking with her for years...and the Daemon is supposed to be framed as one of the moral villains and antagonists and worst persons in Rhaenyra's personal circle
[pt.2 of the one above] the show not taking advantage of Criston Cole witnessing the white stag approach Rhaenyra and thus (for him, at least, with his devotion to Andal beliefs and customs) show us how he reacts to the sign legitimizing Rhaenyra...and then deciding to abandon her -> making it seem as if a relationship between them would in any way be healthier than one with Daemon -> really, just presenting this whole idea that this is a good relationship and making their separation sem more Rhaenyra's fault than actually Criston's!
Rhaenyra knowing that the greens are plotting against her for years to install Aegon, having proposed to Daemon explicitly saying she needed him for her upcoming conflict with he greens, and then calling it "Daemon's war" and not wanting Daemon to shore up their defenses not immediately imprisoning Otto Hightower to have him right where she can keep him
Rhaenyra flip-flopping between showing strength to Otto or Daemon....then crying over a torn out page from a person who tried to kill/banish her and her sons
Rhaenyra being in any way affected by Alicent's page when she told Alicent before Alicent is essentially the biggest hypocrite AND Alicent has been trying to get her and her kids either killed or banished forever -> the page was specifically about Nymeria who would become the founder of the current House of Martell and remade the entire Dornish culture through her conquests and marriage to the then Martell Andal-only lord, aka, one of ASoiaF's women who was completely assured of her autonomous right to rule and responsible for a literal cultural reset that only benefited both herself as well as those she conquered for generation into current time, ahem genderless primogeniture....Alicent is trying to usurp Rhaenyra based on the "only males can rule" bullshit....you can't make this stuff up
Rhaenys absolutely knowing (or should know) that the greens could and would imprison or kill any of her grandkids, herself, and Corlys....yet allowing them to live in episode 9
Aemond supposedly being the son who "reads all the philosophies and prepared himself for leadership to protect his home and family"...then making the bright decision in antagonizing an envoy under someone else's home and killing him after chasing him down for more than 5 minutes tops -> Even if it weren't a decision, that would be even worse! If he knew he didn't have control over a dragon, AND didn't want to kill Luke, just to scare him (for 5 mins?)...why chase him down at all?! He's been riding Vhagar for years, so he either should have been way better at getting her to obey him OR he would have known that he couldn't control her all that well and avoid letting his emotions get the better of him. He would have known the risks, yet took them anyway! Then we have to assume that he actually wanted Luke dead and sought it out. That he did have control over Vhagar! Otherwise, we fall back again on him just being a dumbass, bc again, he said he studied to become better, have more emotional control, be more strategic, and smarter...but then pulls this? What a mess!
Criston Cole managing to get out of execution or imprisonment simply because Alicent said so, when he killed a man under Viserys' roof and that same man essentially having had guests rights...(digressing from the topic of inconsistencies and plotholes, this does not happen in the book -- Cole killed Joffrey during a tourney match, which both show and book audiences know are highly dangerous, so the point there was that Cole could get away with it on account of it being an already dangerous sport/event that is socially sanctioned; the book's telling of how Cole killed Joffrey makes more sense and has more potential to be emotionally more charged with helplessness)
*the Targs somehow not having an ounce of darker skin or kinkier/curlier hair despite making the Velaryon the exclusively black house and Viserys/Daemon/Rhaenys have 2 female Velaryon ancestors*
Rhaenyra showing a desire for vengeance for Luke but not Visenya, who died before Luke and who she lost while trying to hurry up and respond to the green threat herself without Daemon "interfering" (AND her calling the council at all, in the book, for the fact that she lost Visenya and the greens took her throne...again, going back to how she knows the greens want it)
episode 3, in the daytime Daemon (relatively way less armored than before) charges through the field without getting a single arrow to the head but in the 2nd episode (nighttime) an arrow pierces what looks to be his chest or shoulder while he is in full armor and on the mobile Caraxes. The entire thing, while entertaining and shocking, still makes about as much sense as Rhaenys bursting through the floor of the Dragonpit; my man should have become a porcupine with specific choreography matches with the specific set pieces and props locations they decided to go with
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"I'm tired of Sansa being rescued.." Question, when has she been rescued? Littlefinger's "rescue" was a false one. Sure, he smuggled her out of KL, but it was completely self-serving to further his own ambitions. The Vale is just another prison for her, and now he's roped her in even further via Lysa's murder. The Tyrells weren't trying to rescue her through their marriage proposal to Willas. That offer was self-serving. Tyrion stood up for her a few times, but he never rescued her. The Hound offered to get her out of KL, but he was drunk, verbally cruel to her, and also had no plan nor any idea on where he would take her.
Also, there's nothing wrong with needing rescue. Once, twice, thrice, a hundred times.
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Milly: Rhaenyra comes to the conclusion that she wants power, she’s the crown, she cannot give it up and my last scene, when she sees Alicent’s complete disgust with herself, she understands that she will need to fight with her for power.
Emma: huh? I have a scene where Rhaenyra roars at her father’s bedside and says that she doesn’t want to be with this burden, and in general she then promises Alicent to return on the dragon to KL.
Emily: the wedding was the point of no return, Rhaenyra didn’t care about Alicent's feelings and lied to her, swearing on her mother's grave. Because of Rhaenyra, Otto is deprived of his position as Hand and Alicent enters into a fight with Rhaenyra.
Olivia: huh? Alicent, after her son’s deprived of an eye, cries that she cut her friend and acted dishonestly towards her, and then shouted at the council that she would send everyone to the wall if she ever heard a proposal to kill Rhaenyra again.
#hotd#houseofthedragon#rhaenyra targaryen#alicent hightower#milly alcock#emma darcy#emily carey#olivia cooke
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Kleine–Levin syndrome (KLS) is a rare neurological disorder characterized by persistent episodic hypersomnia accompanied by cognitive and behavioral changes. These changes may include disinhibition, sometimes manifested through hypersexuality, hyperphagia or emotional lability, and other symptoms, such as derealization. Patients generally experience recurrent episodes of the condition for more than a decade, which may return at a later age. Individual episodes generally last more than a week, sometimes lasting for months. Patients commonly have about 20 episodes over about a decade. Several months may elapse between episodes.
The onset of the condition usually follows a viral infection (72% of patients); several different viruses have been observed to trigger KLS.[2] It is generally only diagnosed after similar conditions have been excluded; MRI, CT scans, lumbar puncture, and toxicology tests are used to rule out other possibilities. The syndrome's mechanism is not known, but the thalamus is thought to possibly play a role. SPECT has shown thalamic hypoperfusion in patients during episodes.
KLS is very rare, occurring at a rate of 1 in 500,000, which limits research into genetic factors.[2] The condition primarily affects teenagers (81% of reported patients), with a bias towards males (68-72% of cases), though females can also be affected, and the age of onset varies.[2] There is no known cure, and there is little evidence supporting drug treatment. Lithium has been reported to have limited effects in case reports, decreasing the length of episodes and duration between them in some patients.[3] Stimulants have been shown to promote wakefulness during episodes, but they do not counteract cognitive symptoms or decrease the duration of episodes.
Patients with Kleine–Levin syndrome (KLS) experience recurring episodes of prolonged sleep (hypersomnia).[5] In most cases, patients sleep 15 to 21 hours a day during episodes.[6] Excessive appetite (hyperphagia) and unusual cravings are present in half to two thirds of cases.[6][7][8] About half of patients, mainly male patients, experience dramatically increased sexual urges (hypersexuality).[9][7] Several other symptoms usually accompany the syndrome, including marked changes in mood and cognitive ability.[5]Derealization and severe apathy are present in at least 80 percent of cases.[10] About one third of patients experience hallucinations or delusions.[7] Depression and anxiety occur less commonly; one study found them in about 25 percent of patients.[10] Individuals usually cannot remember what happened during episodes.[6] Repetitive behaviors and headaches are commonly reported.[7] Some patients act very childlike during episodes,[11] and communication skills and coordination sometimes worsen.[6]
The first time a patient experiences KLS, it usually occurs along with symptoms that are similar to those of the flu or encephalitis. In at least 75 percent of cases, symptoms occur after an airway infection or a fever. Viruses observed before the development of the condition include Epstein–Barr virus, varicella zoster virus, herpes zoster virus, influenza A virus subtypes, and adenovirus. Several days after symptoms first occur, patients become very tired.[9] In cases that occur after an infection, KLS usually starts within three to five days for teenagers and fewer for children.[16] In other cases, alcohol consumption, head injury, or international travel precede symptoms.[9][14] Lifestyle habits, such as stress, alcohol abuse and lack of sleep and stress, have also been proposed as possible triggers.[5] First episodes of KLS are preceded by a clear event in about 90 percent of cases.[8] Recurrences generally do not have clear triggers; only about 15 percent have a precipitating event.[17]
Population-based studies of KLS have not been performed. Its prevalence is about 1 to 2 cases per million people,[8] although recent studies conducted by a French research team point to a higher number of 3 per million people.[25] It occurs most frequently among Jews in the US and Israel. First-degree relatives of people who have the syndrome are much more likely than the general population to have it, although only in about one percent of cases do family members contract it. About 68 to 72 percents of patients are male. Patients with the syndrome are more likely than the general population to have genetic disorders, and about a third of people with the syndrome encountered some form of birth difficulty.[26] In a study of 186 older patients, about ten percent had preexisting psychiatric issues.[6] One study found that about ten percent of patients had a neurological condition before KLS developed.[8] The condition does not appear to occur most frequently in one season.[11]
??? extremely strange disorder.
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Hi ! Sorry to bother but I wanted to ask you ,what are your thoughts on Otto and Alicent relationship and how would you have it developed in season 2?
Have a good day/night !
Hi!
Oh that's complicated.
Based on the fact that Aegon will dismiss him, I believe they will be in bad terms.
We had that deleted dialog about otto using Alicent and proposing a marriage in her name, so maybe he will do it again, or even displease them in a general manner.
Otto acts on his on ways most of the time, maybe he will do something that will be prejudicial to their side as a whole, and it will deteriorate their relationship more. He can also do something Aegon as a King (and father) wouldn't approve, like suggest sending the twins and maelor away, proposing a marriage between Jaehaera and the son of someone else to secure support, comment over the death of Jaehaerys coldly like: if Maelor was the one killed it would have been better...
I believe Alicent will finally have enough of him and won't put up with him anymore, so their relationship will really sour - but he's still ambitious father and grandfather, he will still support his grandson, even not in the best terms.
Reflecting on their relationship as a whole, he got it coming. Alicent tried many times to be a good daughter, to support his decisions, but he never sympathized with her grievances or tried to make it better. He won't have a daughter to take of him now that he is old and we all can understand that, he wasn't a great parent. If there was another King, or if Rhaenyra was a prince, he would also do everything to make Alicent marry in and put his line in the throne, no matter her age, or what she wants, as long as he is winning.
And I kind of can understand him, he is a second son, he has nothing to his name, he lives depending on the favor of others. It's natural to want something more. His execution over was terrible, but I believe his initial motivation was acceptable. Otto and Alicent were alone in the Keep and only had each other once Mrs. Otto Hightower died, and she clearly had a huge influence on them both. When he left KL Alicent was alone and she clearly would want her father back. As they got back together, Alicent eventually matured, learn the things she must do to survive, but she wouldn't do the same things her father did to her children - and if she did, she clearly would have her grievances and would try to explain her reasons to her children.
I also think he had a hand in sending Daeron away.
In the end, he is never the one trying to redeem himself and actively recognizing his errors. Alicent have no obligation to go after him and keep trying to mend their relationship, as she did many times in the past.
Anyway, I tried to imagine if it was my father doing it. I would have a hard time trying to forgive and keep up with him in my life. But this is another time and another moral, so she's doing what a dutiful daughter would do. Once again, bound by duty.
Hoping to hear your thoughts about it! Have a good night/day!
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since crosby cares so much about his image it’ll be interesting to see how he navigates post-retirement cuz ive seen a few gossip/rumour pages outside of tumblr also that say kathy is a placeholder for him and sid uses NDAs/takes their phones before hookups and cheating rumours etc
cuz it’ll be so obvious if he leaves her for a younger woman lol he already gets teased wondering why he hasn’t married her after 10 yrs, he keeps denying being engaged and he has zero commitment towards her
at least jagr has somewhat straight forward relationship, older man younger woman, she’s 29 no one is surprised about that but with sidney it’ll look quite bad since a lot of people think he’s been dating KL since he was 20 never proposed no marriage no kids. it’ll be fun to see how people talk about that cuz everyone sees he’s good with children and he’s claimed he wants kids of his own
He built his image in order to get the best advertising contracts. It is paradoxical that he is losing this source of income precisely because of his too blurred reputation. I also wonder what strategy he will choose when he finishes his career and when his father, agent and Mario no longer have no influence
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@riana-one My answer got too big to fit the comments section, but here it is.
I asked you what did Rheagar do to his wife and children, and you said:
"Nationally humiliating his pregnant wife."
You are saying that Rhaegar "showing favor to/sleeping with" Lyanna while being married caused Elia to be seen or talked about as if she is not good enough but literally no one ever describes Elia as being lesser than Lyanna on account of what happened, no one describes Elia negatively at all. Elia is not remembered in any way unfavorably to her image, honor or worth.
I know cheating is a thorny subject and people have their own feelings about it but there is no textual proof that Elia might have felt humiliated or hurt by whatever happened between R/L.
You're assigning these feelings onto her, it's just your personal opinion of how you think she should feel. Call it a theory, a headcanon or whatever, still; we don't know what she felt, and the noble society of Westeros did not bolster any ill rumors about her after her death. So where is the public humiliation?
Furthermore, to propose a headcanon of my own versus yours; I think there is the slight possibility that Elia had her own secret lover on the side and that comes from a quote by Varys:
Varys gave him a shrewd look. "My little birds tell me that Princess Elia cried a . . . certain name . . . when they came for her."
Next you said:
"Disappearing after kicking off a major war while leaving his wife and children unprotected and in the reach of Aerys."
I think you choosing to talk about Aerys fits exactly on my original post's point, after all Aerys wasn't the one to rape and kill Elia. Who was it again? Have we forgotten already?
Elia was by Aerys's reach the moment she moved into the Red Keep, but that is besides the point, the guy was terrible, but he didn't kill her.
Aerys actually needed Elia alive to use her to control the dornish as seen in this Jaime's pov:
He (Aerys) had finally realized that Robert was no mere outlaw lord to be crushed at whim, but the greatest threat House Targaryen had faced since Daemon Blackfyre. The king reminded Lewyn Martell gracelessly that he held Elia and sent him to take command of the ten thousand Dornishmen coming up the kingsroad. Jon Darry and Barristan Selmy rode to Stoney Sept to rally what they could of griffins' men, and Prince Rhaegar returned from the south and persuaded his father to swallow his pride and summon my father. But no raven returned from Casterly Rock, and that made the king even more afraid.
Also in the quote above, we see that Rhaegar did came back from wherever he disappeared to (as you put it) in the south to hold back the rebellion. If he talked to his wife in this time, how and about what they might have talked, unfortunately we don't know. There is not much evidence of anything, but to conclude Elia was left all alone with no information about anything by her husband is a bit too much. Or are you saying Elia would avoid/ignore Rhaegar just out of spite or anger when he is the guy she depends on for her security and that of her children? Take Ned and Catelyn's marriage for an example.
Lastly I disagree again when you say "Rhaegar kicked off a major war", that's a reach because it wasn't just one action that kicked off the war, but a series of events mixed with Aerys declining sanity being well-known throughout Westeros at that point.
The Prince disappearing with the daughter of the Warden of North did cause tension with the northern Lord, but then Aerys killing said Lord and his son was what crushed any chance of peaceful relations.
By then each lord picks their reason to stand for war, but the truth is that this moment was long coming and the lords of Westeros were waiting for the slight show of vulnerability by the Targaryen king to take over KL.
My point still stands: people will rather complain about Rhaegar for cheating on Elia than point out Tywin and Gregor's involvement in her murder.
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Greetings! I was reading some of your wonderful posts and got a question. Does Cregan's agreement with Jace even make any sense? Cregan really agreed to fight for the Blacks because *checks notes* an obvious bastard proposes to give his heir the hand of his daughter, the very same one who's nowhere near conceived and may not come to exist if Jace only has sons, not to mention that Jace isn't even married to start trying to produce her. It's wobbly in the very best, but then, are there many cases where the support Team Black gets is completely reasonable?
Hi, Melody! 🍋 Overall, I think there are many contradictions with the Northern pact, some of which you've already pointed out. For some reason, GRRM was set from the start on the Starks supporting Rhaenyra and he had to go back in the story to manufacture reasons for that support. Was he successful? It's a matter of debate.
Out of all of Rhaenyra's allies, bar her direct bannermen, the Starks supporting her makes some degree of sense, but only if the Pact of Ice and Fire is real, because, as shoddy as it is, at least they get something out of it. Cregan gets a sister for a Queen (supposedly, if Jace married Sara Snow), which comes with a lot of direct access to the throne and the political influence it entails, and also a princess as a wife for his son, ensuring the same kind of bond to the throne for the next generation.
Now, I don't think this is a foolproof pact, but it must be the best GRRM was able to come up with for a story that spans a few chapters in Fire and Blood, so more like a novella, not really even novel-length. There's that to consider, too. The amount of effort isn't going to be the same like in the main serieas.
To come back to the Pact, I think there are kinks with that, too. The allegedly honour-obsessed Starks have no problem with the fact that Jace is a visible bastard and are so eager to fight for him as the future king? They think it's perfectly reasonable for the crown prince to marry a bastard girl and that everyone else is just going to accept that? Not one, but two bastards on the throne? That would be political suicide. Also, bargaining with children that don't exist yet, so not exactly something tangible.
Furthermore, after Jace dies, why does Cregan not demand a similar arrangement from Rhaenyra (maybe with Joffrey as a replacement)? At that point, he is fighting for her for free. When he comes to KL to fight Aegon II, why doesn't he bring the same demands to Aegon III?
Not to mention that his support is so lackluster in the first place. He sends the Winter Wolves, yes, but takes a whole of two years (?) to actually raise his banners for Rhaenyra. Again, that's something I'm inclined to categorize as a storyline weakness, because GRRM needs to keep the Starks out of the main battles, otherwise the Blacks would be way too overpowered. So he has characters act in an implausible manner to compensate for the poor distribution of allies during the Dance.
A further question would be why GRRM is so set on the Starks supporting Rhaenyra. They could have just been neutral and it wouldn't have changed much of the story. One theory I've seen is that it's supposed to mirror the future alliance between Daenerys and the Starks, at least as far as fighting the Others is concerned. The Pact of Ice and Fire is too fanciful a name for a shoddy agreement that didn't even amount to anything, so maybe it is supposed to act as some kind of historical foreshadowing. Perhaps the eggs Vermax is said to have laid at Winterfell will come into play later, too.
#ask#melodymidway#cregan stark#house stark#anti jacaerys velaryon#for filtering purposes#sara snow#fire and blood critical#division of houses during the dance of the dragons
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I've seen a handful of people speculate that if Jon is truly alive (assuming that the wounds he received at the end of his chapter in ADWD were fatal to begin with), he could maybe inform the Vale of the ongoing food problem at the Wall and therefore, Sansa (or rather "Alayne" in this case) would receive that message and maybe try to reunite with Jon in some way. It sounds a bit wishy washy to me... Do you think that theory holds any merit?
Hi there!
Well, GRRM made very sure to explicitly state that the Vale is sitting on a big food surplus in his TWOW Alayne sample chapter, and that Littlefinger is pressing certain lords to hoard it in order to drive up potential profits in the future and weaken his political opponents.
And while GRRM also made sure in ADWD to emphasize the dire food situation in both the Riverlands and at the Wall, it is only Jon who actually connects this to the Vale in his thoughts:
Our best hope may be the Eyrie. The Vale of Arryn was famously fertile and had gone untouched during the fighting.
(ADWD, Jon IV)
He then proceeds to show us Jon negotiating for a loan with the Iron Bank and collecting (meagre) funds from the wildlings as part of the agreement to let them pass the Wall.
Bowen Marsh sighed. "If they do not slay us with their swords, they will do so with their mouths. Pray, how does the lord commander propose to feed Tormund and his thousands?"
Jon had anticipated that question. "Through Eastwatch. We will bring in food by ship, as much as might be required. From the riverlands and the stormlands and the Vale of Arryn, from Dorne and the Reach, across the narrow sea from the Free Cities."
"And this food will be paid for … how, if I may ask?"
With gold, from the Iron Bank of Braavos, Jon might have replied. Instead he said, "I have agreed that the free folk may keep their furs and pelts. They will need those for warmth when winter comes. All other wealth they must surrender. Gold and silver, amber, gemstones, carvings, anything of value. We will ship it all across the narrow sea to be sold in the Free Cities."
(ADWD, Jon XI)
(Jon. Why. Not. Tell. Him.???)
So GRRM obviously sets up the idea of money procured for the Watch in order to buy food, and food sitting by waiting to be bought in the Vale.
There are complications, of course: Jon's stabbing and potential loss of direct political influence in the North (at least for a while), the uncertainty of the loan going through given Tycho is still roaming around the North, Littlefinger's desire for maximum profit, alternative needs for the food such as the Vale's own starving wildlings which are the mountain clans....
But the connection is obviously there.
I doubt it will be handled as neatly as (recovered) Jon asking and them selling. Much more likely, it is Sansa herself who will try and forge a connection between the North and these food stores GRRM took so much care to inform us of through her POV. The bread riots in KL would have left a lasting impression, and there is the imagery of food used both to tempt her (wine, lemon cakes, pomegranates) and to depict her rejection of Tyrion:
He wanted something from her, but Sansa did not know what it was. He looks like a starving child, but I have no food to give him. Why won't he leave me be?
(ASOS, Sansa IV)
(She ends up serving him overcooked peas during tense and unpleasant dinners.)
What happens when there is food and there are recipients she very much wants to feed, after reuniting with Jon and learning the true extent of the plight of her people?
It may be that Sansa herself will be pressured to pay a high price for that Vale food if she wants it to go North. Whether she ends up having to pay it, is a different matter, but it would absolutely set up a nice mirror between Jon and Sansa in the North toward Joffrey and Margaery in King's Landing, when she arrived with the bounty of the Reach to feed the cheering people - who had been starving due to her own family's blockade of the food supply in the first place. The dark irony of that might be turned on its head. A starving North, a princess with the key to their survival, hard choices, high drama.
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TG stans are going to say that alicent married helaena to aegon to protect her, protect her from what? don't want to accept a marriage between her and Jace? OK.. I can understand why but By God… they could arrange a marriage with someone to receive support for aegon for example
I think people ignore that Aemond was also a viable option to wed Helaena to if Alicent did really marry her to Aegon "to protect her". Aemond not only was actually willing to marry Helaena, but with how codependent Alicent is with him, he'd most likely stay in KL if there hadn't been a war.
The thing is, by having Aegon marry in the tradition of the Targaryens, his claim to the throne is supported. Since the proposal between him and Rhaenyra was shot down by Viserys, Helaena is the only option. That is all the greens care about when it comes to Helaena; not her safety, not her happiness, and definitely not her desires.
So marrying Helaena into another house wasn't an option, even if that house supported the greens. She was born a woman, so her only purpose in the eyes of her family's faction was to be Aegon's sister wife and provide him heirs.
It shows just how little women matter in the eyes of TG, even Alicent's own daughter was only useful as a wife/mother. In the book, she does act on Aegon's small council, if only for a bit, but her main purpose is obvious. She can't fulfill the purpose Alicent and Otto decided for her if she marries anyone other than Aegon. There's no concern over "protecting Helaena", only concern over Aegon's claim.
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