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nathsketch · 1 year
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I’ve been keeping busy with a very special project these past few weeks ;)
Let’s start with the vitality of Spring or better yet, 봄의 생명력 🌸
Things to come... 😉
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meenawrites · 6 months
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Jin Ho Gyeong – A Discussion
So I want to talk about one of the major players in Alchemy of Souls: Jin Hogyeong.
As matriarch of one of the four great families of Daeho, protector of relics, able to defy Royal orders, and mother of Naksu's body, Jin Buyeon, she is one of THE most important characters in the show.
I want to preface this post by saying I don't like her. As a person. As a character, I think she's interesting.
In Part 1 we're introduced to Hogyeong (or Mama Jin as I will likely call her) as a powerful woman who is still grieving the loss of her first daughter like a decade after she disappeared. It makes her sympathetic to the audience even though she might be a bit cold and harsh at the beginning, especially to her second daughter Jin Choyeon.
I have to say that I was waiting like all of season 1 for Mama Jin to realize that how she treats Jin Choyeon is super wrong. Like she's constantly ordering her around, doesn't care about her feelings, and overall doesn't really treat her like her daughter, more like an extension of herself and someone she can just order around.
Like I get that you're devastated over the loss of your daughter; no mom should ever have to go through that, but that doesn't give you leave to be a dick to your remaining kid. And it clearly isn't even because she's lost one daughter so she doesn't want to lose the other and is thus controlling of Choyeon. She just clearly disregards her as her own person entirely, constantly just reminiscing about Buyeon instead. And we see from her flashbacks that she's capable of being a good mom, but apparently the kindness that we see in these memories doesn't extend to anyone other than Buyeon, who is long gone in her perspective ( we know better of course).
So strike one against Mama Jin to be honest.
Still, because she has this one weakness of desperately searching for her first daughter, Jin Mu is able to take advantage of her and use her power as the guardian of Jinyowon by promising her to find her daughter (who he made disappear in the first place, like damn no morals at all this guy). Smart move and totally believable successful manipulation.
Strike 2 against Mama Jin is honestly how fine she is with knowingly going against the greater good, aiding and abetting crimes, if something's in it for her. Like as someone with such an important role of guarding the relics of Jinyowon from falling into the wrong hands AND having the plaque (I can't remember what it's called) that allows her to both call forth the Unanimous Assembly and exempts her from obeying royal orders, she is not being faithful to her duty at all. She takes great pride in her Jin family line and being protector of all these relics, but when it comes down to it, despite acting so high and might above everyone else she is totally fine with abusing her power for herself.
This is where her and Park Jin are actually contrasted. Park Jin too is in a big position of power within Daeho as the head of Songrim. He has a lot of responsibility on his shoulders, and we do see him struggle with how his responsibility and duty binds him to act and what his heart wants. Because Park Jin actually isn't a moral absolutist. He is more one that Jang Uk for sure, but we can see in his moral dilemma over how to treat Jang Uk and what he should do for him and what he WANTS to do for him, that his heart does sometimes stray from the path described by his duty. But as opposed to Jin Hogyeong, he never abuses his power to assist in a crime or something that will be bad in the larger scheme of things.
(I'm not being very eloquent rn but bear with me).
The most he'll use his power for are to protect Jang Uk as much as possible (the little troublemaker hehe). But what's important to note about Park Jin is that he's taken what I call a '100% decision' that if anyone around him does something against the greater good, even Jang Uk, he will cut him down.
Park Jin recognizes the weight of his own position and responsibilities, and does his best to rise to meet them. Not to say that he's perfect. He's only human after all. But he assumes his role and duty as a leader and someone with the power to change the trajectory of the nation if he actually wanted to.
This is marked even with the change in his attitude between season 1 and season 2. Like in season 2, Park Jin has become this retired farmer who's a terrible cook, and he's jarringly happy. Very laidback, very happy to just host people and have cute moments with his fiance. This is a huge change from season 1 where yes he had comedic moments, but he was way stricter and constantly on the verge of a nervous breakdown (man holds his heart at least once every episode). This is because he is no longer in this position of power, his responsibilities are no longer weighing on him. Which also just goes to show how seriously he was taking it when he was leader of Songrim.
I hope I'm making sense.
So yes, Park Jin and Jin Hogyeong are also narrative foils to each other! (I'm starting to sense a pattern, Hong sisters, but I'm not complaining)
Let's circle back to Mama Jin and get into the meat of season 2, where she just continues to go down hill. No introspection this lady I swear.
Having gotten her daughter's body back, Mama Jin decides to lock up Jin Buyeon/Naksu basically forever. That's the plan anyway. Like I get it's probably hard to know that it's your daughter with an assassin's soul, don't get me wrong. But the way she's acting and with her plans for Buyeon, it's kind of clear that she is valuing the body's Jin blood more than the fact that it's her daughter.
Like Mama Jin literally imprisoned Jin Buyeon for three years, not allowing her to even actually step outside the BUILDING she's locked in, and then was like btw I found a submissive and breedable husband for you. You'll be able to leave just for the wedding ceremony but then you're going to come right back here and pop out babies for me.
Like. Absolutely insane. Crazy. How can you even call yourself a mother, let alone her mother?
I can't believe she was even surprised that Buyeon ran off and got married as soon as possible.
Not to mention the guy she picked was slimy as hell, like yuck, go away.
And then, instead of having some self-reflection on her controlling methods that got her to this point and taking a different approach if only for her bloodline's sake, she was like, 'actually I'm going to torture you until you're in so much pain you cave in and come back to me'. Because for real what she did was basically the equivalent of putting a shock collar on her daughter.
Basically, girl just got worse and worse throughout the season. Constantly blaming other people for her problems, still somehow bragging about her own family after being complicit with everything that happened last season. Just no no no no no.
Her plans for Buyeon/Naksu? Strike 3 man. And I haven't even gotten through another incident that angered me so much.
Strike 4: refusing to help Seo Yul when he was dying from the parasite.
Like.
EXCUSE ME! OUT OF SHEER HUMANITY YOU SHOULD BE HELPING HIM
Like she has known Seo Yul forever probably because it seems the four kids largely grew up together even if Jin Choyeon isn't as close to them as the four boys are. He's the only heir to the Seo family WHO COULD LITERALLY DECLARE WAR ON HER AND WIN.
If anything, it came from Jinyowon, which is HER responsibility, so ya know, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY!
But she was like no, I won't save him. I don't care if he lives or dies. I was so ready to throw hands guys you don't understand. Like how can you say that? Not only about a person in general, but someone she knows is a good person, has known her kid his whole life, and has literally never wronged her in any way?
And she leveraged that to manipulate Jang Uk into giving Jin Buyeon back, as if her daughter is an object. Not respecting her daughter's agency and personhood is what had gotten her in this situation in the first place, but it seems like WE DON'T LEARNNNN
I cannot accurately describe how mad I was. Like I have no words. I wanted her to die so bad.
Jin Hogyeong is super self-centered, a terrible mother, a terrible leader, and just overall a terrible person. Not as bad as Jin Mu! But let's be honest his bar is in hell.
Even besides my own personal opinion and reactions though, I do truly thing that Mama Jin should have died at the end of the show.
She has this "awakening" moment where she realizes how much she's fucked up (not about everything she's done wrong but whatever), and she finally FINALLY does the right thing, and is prepared to lay down her life to try to stop as many relics from escaping as possible. It's satisfying as a viewer to see someone who had made so many mistakes through the story finally get some redemption by deciding to do the right thing, and this was one of those moments.
However, I really felt like the moment was cheapened by the fact that she was alive after all of that. I really think she should have died to bring her character arc to a close, to have a satisfying ending for her with the viewers, and also show what the consequences of abusing your power (and just generally being a terrible person) lead to. Narratively speaking, I think her dying would have been the best choice.
Or she should have at least returned maimed in some way, maybe drained of her divine powers. But it doesn't seem like she came out of it with any problems.
We do see her finally decide to let Jin Buyeon/Cho Yeong go (as she should, took her long enough) but it's just not satisfying. Because there's no apology, no actual recognition that she did anything wrong. Just a 'I'm at peace with my daughter's fate now so I guess I'll let her go". Like... what?
And Jin Choyeon STILL is cowed by her mom. Which is a post for a different time but likely clearly she hasn't made amends with her daughter either.
Anyway, that's what I wanted to say. Both personally and from a narrative standpoint, I think Jin Hogyeong should have died. Maybe the writers didn't do it because they didn't have enough episodes to deal with what the aftermath of that would mean, but who knows.
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secretivedreams · 1 year
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Here we’ve been thinking Mama Jin wanted to keep Naksu-Yeon locked up to keep her believing she was Bu-Yeon but actually I think Mama Jin is just terrified Naksu will murder her in her sleep if she remembers anything
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taekbokkie · 1 year
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Weakest man in Daeho
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Possibly the strongest man in the world
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mjfan4life18 · 2 years
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Shaman Choi may be a evil lady but she is not wrong in her saying nobody has the right to call her 'Evil' because, most of them used the ice stone for their own personal gain~
Like I felt bad for the queen at first but, knowing she was just trying to get more young and pretty 🤨 made me not feel that bad for her~
Like everyone pointing the finger at who the real bad ppl are.
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93daes · 1 year
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Idk if anyone has talked about this yet, but is anyone else wondering why Buyeon isn’t wearing the Jin family’s signature eyeliner makeup?
Part of me thinks it’s to symbolize the mother not being able to fully accept that the person in front of her is her daughter (the daughter she chose). Or it could just be a mistake with the costume and makeup team lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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akinatrix · 2 years
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Anyone else think that mu deok might be the reincarnation or somewhat related to the mage who brought rain to the land of daeho?
I mean look at them
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Idk if its been confirmed that the mage was either male or female but to me it would explain how mu deok was recognized as the "ice stone" by the vases in jinyowon
Not to mention that when jang uk saw the REAL mu deok when his soul almost shifted yet after the ritual he woke in his own body
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I think that the real mu deok is able to pacify relics and rituals that were made of the ice stone. When she does this she either allows naksu to use her own energy like in the lake and mirror
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kophae · 2 years
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i know everybody is losing their mind over jung so min and how buyeon should have helped over the mind control thingy but my take over the last scene in which naksu drowned in lake gyeongcheondaeho is that what if she just suddenly wanted to kill herself since jang uk died and there's no point in living??? gaaahh idk .. but yeahh jin mu probably told her off to kill herself righht ?? ! the hong sisters will be the death of me. bye world see you in december this is your winter mage, ukie
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aqukana · 1 year
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interesting point I noticed is the use of colors in Cho Yeong's outfits.
Her original colors as Naksu are a mix of bold red and blue, these colors fade as she becomes powerless.
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Majority of Mudeok's clothes were hues of blue, matching Jang Uk's colors to display their alliance and belonging on the same side.
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her last scene where Naksu's assassin instinct was forcefully awakened, she was dressed in pink (light red) — the complete opposite of Jang Uk's.
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We meet Buyeon in shades of pink, uniform of the Jin family where she now belonged (or held captive).
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right after she recalls her memories as Naksu/Mudeok, she reverted to dressing in blue — now moving in opposition to the Jin family.
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now all she needs is her sword and the Jin family's blood tainting her blue outfit to finally bring Naksu back.
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my-drama-heart2406 · 11 months
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Go Won and Seo Yul granting wishes to Mudeok left and right. And making it seem as if they're doing her favours and being very generous.
Then there's Mudeok declining their offers like, "No thanks. Even though I'm a filthy shabby servant girl, I don't accept things from just anyone. Even I have standards. And my standards are met by only one very specific person."
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I don’t need show after show after show of pointless love triangles that are all the same I need 20+ episodes of whatever the heck Jang Uk, Bu-Yeon/Cho Yeong/Naksu, and Go Won have going on
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hollaringmountains · 1 year
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SoooALL YHE ELDERS ESPECIALLY PARK JIN AND KIM DOJU GAVE ME A HEART ATTACK WHEN THEY DIED AND THEN HAVE YHE FREAKING AUDACITY TO BE LIKE SIKE AFSHALWHAHSKWSK LIKE I WAS LEGIT CRYINGGGGGGG MY EYES OUT BUT NEXT SCENE IS THEM GETTING HEALEDDDDD AND AND OH MY GOODNWSSS SO FREAKING GRATEFUL FOR MASTER LEE!!!!!
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Yes yes, even Havard and Cambridge want Wook at this point!
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recapitulation · 1 year
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there's some really pretty instrumental tracks in aos part 2 and None of them anywhere online:(
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sunsoothed · 2 years
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jin choyeon and heo yunok... i am sensing a rarepair
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treasuretroveoflali · 2 years
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It was actually so refreshing to see Park Jin assume that his nephew would leave their family and give up inheriting Songrim, because in any other situation the assumption would have been that Jin Cho Yeon would leave Jinyowon.
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