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yepthisiskay · 3 months
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If I had a nickel for everytime my favorite character was played by Jeremy Jordan I’d have 13 nickels which isn’t a lot it’s just weird it happened 13 times.
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this-is-ali · 3 months
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If I had a nickel for every time Jeremy Jordan kissed someone's foot in a musical, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
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theatreism · 1 year
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Then talk to me, Cathy. Talk to me.
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OVERHATED CHARACTERS POLL: Jamie Wellerstein (The Last Five Years)
Feel free to explain your position in the comments or tags, but any harassment, over-the-top fighting, or personal attacks will result in you being blocked. Do not attack real people, be they fans or creators, over fictional characters.
Mod note: If you ever want to see a theater kid bloodbath, just ask a group of them whether it was Jamie or Cathy's fault, then step back to watch the heads roll.
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thatnerdinthecorner · 3 months
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Reason I HAte Jamie No. 46849
'If I hadn't believed in you I wouldn't have loved you at all' from If I Didn't Believe In You
so much of this show is Cathy thinking about her insecurities. Jamie is so successful and she isn't, and throughout the show we get her talent confused with her insecurity: in Climbing Uphill we see her unsuccessful audition and how terribly it goes, and we as an audience are supposed to think she's a bad actress/singer, but she spends the summer touring, and we know that this is something that she does regularly:
'Is it just that you're disappointed To be touring again for the summer?'
Touring isn't a bad job for an actor. It's not Broadway, it's not her dream, but it's a good job and it takes work and talent. Jason Robert Brown got sued by his ex, and consequently had to change parts of the show because it was too close to the reality of their marriage. In other words, the writer is Jamie, the entire show is told by Jamie, and even the songs from Cathy's perspective are written and told by Jamie. Given everything else in the show, I'm not particularly inclined to trust Jamie's account if he's the one telling us that she's bad at her job.
In If I Didn't Believe In You Cathy doesn't want to go to one of Jamie's work parties. She's feeling frustrated about her own career and doesn't feel like spending the evening faking it to appease Jamie's colleagues. So Jamie digs into that. The entire song is very manipulative, but with these lines it fits into a continued theme throughout the show of saying that because Cathy hasn't managed to reach the pinnacle of an incredibly competitive field that she is automatically bad at her job and completely unskilled. Which we know isn't true, because otherwise she wouldn't be touring.
When Jamie says:
'If I hadn't believed in you I wouldn't have loved you at all'
what he's really saying is if I didn't think you would be successful, I wouldn't love you. But because her success is constantly conflated with her talent, when Jamie is talking about her success, he's also talking about her talent, so he's also saying that his love for her is dependent on her being talented, which he is measuring by her success.
Also, for the rest of the song Jamie says 'If I didn't believe in you' not 'hadn't'. I'm probably simplifying this a lot, but in this context, 'Didn't' works in the past and the conditional present tense. 'Hadn't' works in the past and conditional past tense. When Jamie switches to 'hadn't' at the end, he's saying that his belief in her is in the past tense. When Jamie says 'I wouldn't have loved you' that's in past tense too. His belief in her, and his love for her, which are intrinsically tied, are both in the past tense, because she has failed, because she is untalented. The song ends with him confirming all of her worst insecurities and saying he no longer loves her, and the next and final line is:
'Now why don't you put on your dress and we'll go, okay? Cathy? Can we do that, please? Please?'
In other words, the last few lines of this song is Jamie saying telling his wife yes, you're right, you don't have a good job, and you'll never get a better one, you'll never be successful, because you're not talented, and I don't love you anymore, because I only loved you because I thought that you could be successful one day, so why don't you just shut up, stop whining and do as I say, and come to my party to celebrate me and my work and my success.
I hate this man more that I can say.
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No one can give you courage. No one can thicken your skin. I will not fail so you can be comfortable, Cathy. I will not lose because you can't win.
- Jamie Wellerstein, The Last Five Years
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rogersstevie · 1 year
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“Time Machine”, Ingrid Michaelson / The Last Five Years (2014) dir. Richard LaGravenese / “Death By A Thousand Cuts”, Taylor Swift
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sockie2sock · 14 days
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Jamie's a coward. A bitch.
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charlottesweetly · 1 year
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"I will not fail so you can be COMFORTABLE, Cathy, I will not lose because you can't win" hits so hard like fuck jamie fr but goddamn OUCH
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royalbluefairydust · 2 years
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i hear "there are people. and they are publishing my book." and i turn into a gaslighting cheater for the next 5 minutes
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The Last Five Years has been popping up on my FYP on TikTok. Some people are saying Jamie makes some good points (specifically in “If I Didn’t Believe in You”)
Now. I could write an essay on this show, but for now, I’ll say this:
JAMIE IS MAKING “GOOD POINTS” BECAUSE HE IS MANIPULATING CATHY! THAT’S THE SONG!
SHE IS SAYING SHE ISN’T HAPPY GOING TO THESE PARTIES BECAUSE SHE DOESN’T LIKE BEING LEFT ALONE IN A SITUATION THAT MAKES HER UNCOMFORTABLE AND JAMIE TURNS THAT INTO HER NOT SUPPORTING HIM AND HIS WORK WHEN THAT IS NOT THE CASE!
That is all. Thank you.
(I understand this is my opinion and that others can see the song differently)
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Do you know this Jewish character?
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penguinsledder · 6 months
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yknow the thing I enjoy about Jamie's songs is that he has this vibe of quick to fall so stupidly stars-in-my-eyes head over heels in love (Shiska Goddess, Moving Too Fast, etc.) and then literally right after their marriage he turns into such a dick like "oh my gosh it's so hard NOT to cheat, it's absolute torture".
Literally went from MY WIFE 🤩 to my wife 😒
Like idk maybe Cathy also wonders when did she go from being adored to feeling like he's just putting up with her and she's at his mercy
Then when things fall apart he's like yknow I've loved you and believed in you so much, why would I be here otherwise, and this is how you repay me :/
it's so, idk ... typical
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jamesbracket · 11 months
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Bracket 5, Round 1
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musical-dreamcasts · 2 years
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An American in Paris - Fra Fee (he/him) as Henri Baurel, requested by @a-rose-remembered
Birthday: May 20, 1987 (age 35)
Birth Place: Killyman, Northern Ireland
Theatre credits include: Jean Prouvaire/Understudy Marius/Enjolras (Les Misérables), Emcee (Cabaret), Billy Kostecki (Dirty Dancing), Jamie Wellerstein (The Last Five Years), Riff (West Side Story), Michael Carney (The Ferryman), Henrik Egerman (A Little Night Music), Robbie Fay (A Man of No Importance), Schlomo Metzenbaum (Fame). Fee also played the role of Courfeyrac in the 2012 film adaptation of Les Misérables.
(Pictured on the right is Max von Essen, who played the role in the Paris and Broadway productions)
Credits: Ruth Crafer, Matthew Murphy
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musicmostmagical · 5 days
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The Last Five Years is so much more enjoyable to me if I choose to believe Jamie and Kathy are a dysfunctional lesbian couple
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