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Allow me to paint a word picture for you all of some potential canon for Transfer Error AU.
People have learned that Emmet is in possession of a thought-to-be-extinct breed of sneasel, but it hasn't yet gotten out that the sneasel is actually Ingo. So, as we already know, numerous people are demanding that the Pokemon be confiscated for science/species preservation. This is mostly done over social media with no actual legal attempts being made, or legal channels being accessed, and Emmet has been able to ignore it for the most part. (Aside from the occasional update from friends/coworkers.)
Until someone manages to get on to an actual news station/late-night show, trying to turn public appeal against him and force him to give up Ingo.
This person tries to sway people into thinking that Emmet is incapable in some form or another and that, if he really wants to help the Pokemon, he should hand it over to a licensed, professional Pokemon breeder. That he’s unqualified to care for the pokemon and it must be taken from him.
Emmet, predictably, takes great offense to this but not for the reason most would think.
We all agree that Emmet had to have done extensive Pokemon breeding to get his Galvantula, but I would like to suggest he was far more involved in the whole thing than just dropping the needed Pokemon off at a daycare and waiting for eggs to appear.
As a result of this and the actions he took; he makes a post on his own, personal media account and fires off a text to Elesa asking her to share it.
The post is a selfie of Emmet himself and a brief caption.
Sitting in the picture is Emmert with a sleeping Ingo curled up in his lap (or into his side), and holding up a small ID so it can be very clearly seen with a verrry annoyed/angry expression. He's not quite glaring at the camera but his irritation/offense is still clearly seen on his face.
Said ID has a number of specific numbers on it blurred/Blocked out, but Emmet’s name is definitely on it, with a fancy/Very Legal and official looking seal stamped on the front. (Partially over Emmet’s name, proving that it is genuine and not a counter fit.)
The caption, like most things said by Subway Boss Emmet, is short and to the point:
Smear campaigns =/= Proper Preservation Procedure.
No Proper Legal Protocol = No Sneaslets
This is followed by the brunt of Unova’s population (outside of electric type fans and breeders) losing their minds that one of the most powerful trainers in the country is, in fact, a licensed Pokemon Breeder.
And, as some point out, completely right that there is no legal leg to stand on. After all, as a previously extinct species of pokemon, the sneasel’s technically covered under the same laws that prevent revived fossil pokemon from being taken from their trainers! No one can take it unless they can prove that have government backing for both research and restoration of the species.
And if they want it bred, it would be significantly detrimental to the attempts to take it from a breeder it already trusts.
Emmet said it best. No proper legal protocol, no sneaslets!
#transfer error au#pokemon headcanons#subway boss emmet#emmet#sningo#sneasel ingo#ingo doesn't know this argument happened#emmet didn't tell him about it#he decided using their arguments against them would be better#because they're still trying to keep quiet about ingo#still not sure how or why he got turned into a sneasel#and not wanting to invite criminals into the mix#rosie rambles#Emmet THE man for a well bred joltik#it's just not well known since not many people look to breeders for them
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Some SFW headcannons if that's ok with you. Can we get some headcannons about Dad Submas with their kiddo (whether separate or a poly s/o au is both fine)?
Holy fuck yes sir(gender neutral) been waiting for this shit
Submas as the fathers of your child/children
Ingo
Ingo has always dreamed of having a family despite that permanent frown on his face being quite menacing to the children. He was pretty fond of kids. Always very gentle and patient. Holding his kid in his arms for the first time, he shakes, afraid he might hurt him or scare him. But who could ever be scared of that soft kitten smile? His heartwarming, when his child looks, sees him, and giggles.
His child is a precious treasure, and their happiness is Ingo's number one priority. Yes, Ingo may or may not have spoiled them a few times but seeing them so happy warms his heart every time.
Like any good parent, Ingo values his child's safety he's a Subway boss safety is part of the job; of course, safety is an important part of his parenting. And it is the same with Emmet. They both agree that their child must know about safety.
Ingo is a first-time father. He doesn't mean to be bad, but of course, some parents make their own mistakes. As their child grows older, Ingo seems to have a problem where he still sees his child as his sweet baby, and sometimes he gets a little protective because it's bittersweet when a parent sees their child grow up. Eventually, he does accept that his child is growing up, and sometimes he won't be there to protect them, but he'll make it known that he'll always be there for them.
I can already feel that poor kid's embarrassment when Ingo screams their names during assemblies every time they get a reward or their name called for one.
He's always having a conversation with his child, even if it's just babbling. He would be having a fake argument with his toddler.
Emmet
Emmet is the for-your-own-good type. He's a serious parent, but he is not unfair; rules are there for a reason and are very important, and he'll make sure that his child knows. He ensures that he teaches his child that actions have consequences; good behavior gets rewarded while bad behavior is punished. ( though not every situation is black and white like that.)
If his child ever asks why for anything, he will explain clearly and calmly. Rip for their belief in Santa when they inevitably ask their father.
Emmet takes safety very seriously, and Emmet can be a little bit of a mother hen. He just doesn't want anything to happen to his child as their parent and a Subway boss; it is their job to protect them.
No parent is perfect; Emmet struggles with personal space and privacy issues. He's always had this. He himself is not really a private person. He says what he says, and he means what he says. It might sound mean, but he'll say it anyway. And the lousy habit is from expecting everyone else to be like that, especially people who are closer to him. He wants his child to be open and honest with him at all times, and he wants to know what's happening in their day-to-day life even though they don't want to tell him. And I can see him getting a little antsy when someone won't tell him or they are hiding something from him. It's something that he always struggled with.
If his child ever gives him a logical argument on why he's wrong when he says no to something he will just freeze and think about it for a few seconds then just say "Ok, verrry fair... carry on."
Emmett gets obsessed with little baby onesies and baby clothes "look!! a little Joltik Halloween costume ah! So verrry cute!"
Ingo x parent!reader x Emmet
( the brothers are sharing one love interest no incest)
Usually, they're pretty good at getting along when it comes to Parenting, but sometimes their different parenting methods clash between two. Usually, they would ask you for advice after that or come to a fair agreement.
If they have twins, they can't be happier. Ingo would bring it up constantly, and Emmet would immediately start picking one color for each twin.
When they come home from Gear Station is usually your time off. They make sure you get plenty of rest because they know how tired you would be after taking care of your children all day.
Emmet would let his child hold a Joltik for the first time.
Ingo would give them a Litwick night light.
When the twins are together, they will always be excited to take their children for hikes or go places to have fun, like parks. We're walking around the amusement park or just seeing Aunt Elesa while you take a rest.
The first thing they do when they realize they are becoming fathers, is cram their minds with as much parenting knowledge as possible they're both excited and scared and praying they'll be prepared enough to deal with a kid.
Soon enough, you'll find them both asleep on top of a pile of notes next to another pile of parenting 101 books.
#pokemon submas#pokemon ingo#pokemon emmet#ingo x reader#emmet#subway boss emmet#submas ingo#submas#pokemon subway bosses#submas x reader#ingo x reader x emmet#emmet x reader#pokemon x reader
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Idk if you want to do it but, train twins get their digi eggs out of the computer. Either they both get a single egg with terriermon and lopmon or they get 2 separate with the tailmon. If they are separate then I imagine one getting it at home while the other at work and trying to hide it so the other doesn't get jealous, not knowing the other has an egg.
So much research I did! I hope it’s relatively correct?? I did my best for you!
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Ingo was not expecting to have an egg bleb out of his computer at the start of his early work day. Judging by the surprised squawk Emmet gave across the room from him, his twin wasn’t expecting it either. This wasn’t something that normally happened, but here they were.
Ingo ran his thumb over the pale egg, tracing the edge of a brownish splotch on the shell. Emmet flitted around him, jabbering in staggered, unfinished sentences that he couldn’t finish in his excitement. Ingo, too caught up in his own shock, hardly heard his brother, too busy cradling his little egg.
It was decently heavy, no doubt full of something, something living and breathing. It was nice and warm too, like a ball left in the sun. Ingo huddled the little thing closer to his chest, using his jacket to shield it from the AC winds.
“Perhaps it’s a Porygon.” He said, resting his cheek on the tapered tip.
“Ingo!” Emmet squawked again, fists lightly bopping on his head. “You are not listening! It is! Not! A Pokémon!”
“Not a Pokémon?” Ingo echoed. He twisted, smacking away Emmet’s fists. Emmet, with the new opening, reached to run his own hands over the egg, practically beaming. “What else would it be?”
“A Digimon!” Emmet yelled, best he could. He danced, swinging side to side, as he tapped his fingers to the egg’s shell. “A Digimon for us! Remember, Ingo? Digimon!”
“I heard you.” Ingo said, amused by how joyous Emmet was. But thinking about it, this was something to be extremely excited about. Ingo knew not of any other Digimon sighting, or plain existence outside of this moment he was sharing with Emmet. To think, a childhood wish could come true this way. “We can’t be sure, however-”
“I am sure!” Emmet swept egg up into his own hands, holding it up like something to be worshiped. It was Ingo’s turn to squawk as he immediately began to chastise his brother for being so reckless with something so fragile. “I wonder what Digimon we got. I want an Agumon! But I will need a Koromon first. We will battle well! I will train him-”
Ingo took the egg back, to Emmet’s displeased huff. Ignoring his twin, Ingo took his cap off, stuffing with his gloves and Emmet’s when passed them. With that on his desk, he tucked the egg into the makeshift nest.
Now that the egg was safe, he turned to Emmet with a snarl. “It is not yours! It came out of my computer!”
“You didn’t even know it was a Digimon!”
“That is irrelevant!”
“You neglected its identity!”
“Don’t you start that-!”
“Appa!”
The twins froze. Slowly, Ingo turned around, shocked to see the egg broken and a tiny green slime poking out of the broken shell. The little creature chirped and cooed, tail wagging. It easily leaped into the hands Ingo offered, snuggling against his skin.
Emmet, ignoring the tears rolling down Ingo’s cheeks, beelined to the other slime hidden into the shell. He peeked inside, and a little brown slime peered back at him. He beamed.
“Hello!” Emmet sang. The little beast perked up some. “Hello, Conomon!”
“Zerimon!” Ingo sobbed, rubbing his cheek to the twittering slime’s.
“Appa!”
Any argument laid forgotten in the face of two cute new friends.
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Weird as fuck that digimon can talk. Anyway, Appa is a parental term. I thought it was cuter than them saying papa ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hope you like it!
~Renee
#digimon#Ingo x reader#emmet x reader#pokemon imagines#pokemon x reader#technically not an x reader but oh well
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You know, you said that stuff about human Emmet and Ingo and their sneasle/sneasler and galvantula s/os respectively - so now we all have to explore it.
Emmet out and about, maybe in Chargestone Cave, coming across a beautiful galvantula hybrid and instantly becoming smitten. They're so pretty - and he tells them that right away, which confuses and intrigues them because someone that's not afraid of them? Someone finds them interesting and beautiful? Oh. Well now they're smitten, too. Emmet keeps coming back to visit them, and they spin him pretty things from their silk. Emmet comes home one night after being gone for the weekend, covered in the remnants of spider webbing, grinning ear to ear. "Brother! Brother, I got married!"
"You what?!"
And then he proceed to tell Ingo all about how he's now the mate of the world's most amazing spider hybrid (much to Ingo's chagrin l. Seriously, Emmet, he's very happy for you but he doesn't need all the details.)
Then there's Ingo. Possibly fresh back from Hisui and already missing his noble bestie. He's got a couple sneasle with him, maybe, and he takes them on a hike to feel closer to nature again. Suddenly the babies run off! He goes after them, of course, and finds they've led him to the den of a sneasle hybrid. Maybe the hybrid is even actually a descendant of Lady Sneasler? Maybe the sneasle mistook them for their noble mother? Or recognized the familiar- albeit somewhat diluted - scent of another of their kind? Either way, here's Ingo, face to face with an absolutely enchanting sneasle hybrid cooing over his sneasle babies, giving them treats and doting on them like they were the hybrid's own kits.
Ingo's familial instincts are going HAYWIRE. Oh. Oh no. This beautiful hybrid person is already acting like a parent to his sneasles and he is weak. He's spent so much time around nothing but big purple cats that he's kind of perfectly fine with this - it almost feels more natural than looking for a human spouse. He bonds with them over so, so many things, and by the end of the day he's already planning out ways to court them. He remembers a little from watching Hisuian sneasle trying to court Lady Sneasler, so he has some idea of what to maybe do. It works eventually, and hoooooboy there's gonna be a whole-ass week where Ingo is MIA because his new mate went through their cycle. He comes home all scratched up and Emmet freaks out - only to pull the annoying little brother card when he finds out Ingo-nii was off in the woods getting laid with a cat person.
Alternatively! All this happens before Hisui, and Ingo subconsciously remembers his lovely sneasle hybrid spouse, and that's why he's so good with Lady Sneasler and her kits. It reminds him of the family he can't remember, so please, giant cat mom, just let him hold your babies and cry into your fur. This man needs a hug from his surrogate cat mom.
(And on that note, if Lady Sneasler comes to the future with him, she is now his children's godmother. No arguments. She takes one look at Ingo's cat spouse and kids and goes, "These are my godkits. I am now your mother in law. Fight me.")
my friend and I have been talking about spiderwife in particular bc she loves it and I think it's cute.
The Galvantula instinct to still eat their mate is there, but Emmet knows how to handle it from his breeding ventures. So, this poor hybrid gets flipped on their back like a turtle while he Dashes away until they calm down. He also can work on it from a trainer perspective so they stop trying to eat him.
He also knows how to make them comfortable and is sadly a bit mean while trying to figure out their 'nature'. Also, he adores his Joltik children.
Ingo is really between giving him the ghost of his dreams or the cat partner for Ultimate Erin. Sweet man just deserves a cat to curl around him and purr until he falls asleep. He's a simple man with simple dreams...
#interna fi#ingo.ima#emmet.ima#pokehybrid au#the reason i asked if joltiks could loaf is so joltik erin could loaf on ingo and Drstroy Him
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Under the City Streets (part 2)
a direct narrative follow-up to this: Bad fanfic ideas theatre: Submas does Over the Garden Wall
UtCS's B Plot/What Emmet doesn't realize is happening at the same time as his adventure:
(Note: the actual PLA plot itself has little bearing on this AU. There is no player character, because the Great Yeeting of Hisui happens before Arceus would have called upon the protagonist. So that stuff simply doesn’t happen.)
As stated before, Laventon, Akari and Rei are also wrapped up in this delightful mess. Although in their case, they didn't need a near death experience to get to the Unknown, they just had to get eaten by a distortion while out doing research on the weird barrier separating Jubilife from the rest of Hisui.
Not that Laventon minds. He is about to vibrate into another dimension from excitement (and a fair bit of terror) because he's never experienced a space-time distortion quite like this! To be transported from Hisui, instead of things transported to Hisui! And what a curious place to find themselves in!
Akari and Rei on the other hand are less enthusiastic about this Unknown crap. They didn’t sign up for this!
As if to prove their intuition right, they get turned around after their first Unknown scouting trip and are accidentally separated from Laventon.
Akari and Rei wind up wandering through the forest when they hear wood getting chopped. They get into an argument about what to do next when the Woodsman/Ingo finds them instead. He’s still on high alert after sending Emmet off the bridge and talking with the Beast, but he relaxes a little when he sees he’s dealing with two lost kids. The Woodsman warns them the forest is dangerous but he’s willing to let them stay at his camp for the night to lead them to civilization in the morning. The two kids are relieved and take him up on his offer.
They arrive in a humble campsite, which is a tent, a firepit, and a collection of ceramic jars next to an herb roller stained with black oil. The Woodsman tells the two they’ll have to gather their own food and water as he’s low on supplies and has work he needs to do. They watch as he takes his gathered Edelwood and breaks them into smaller pieces, methodically grinding them in the hand roller. They shrug and split, Akari fetching water and Rei getting berries and mushrooms.
It’s while Rei is trying to reach a berry that he catches something’s attention. A twig snaps and Rei thinks it’s Akari. But when he turns around to ask if she’s done already, he finds a giant oily mutant Garchomp with freaky eyes staring down at him.
Akari is filling the last of her waterskins when Rei screams. Next thing she knows, Rei is charging past her, telling her to run. Then she sees why and starts running too. They run right back to the Woodsman’s camp. Before they get there, Akari tries throwing a pokeball at it, but the dragon Pokémon smacks the ball aside, sending it flying, and lodging it in a tree.
The Woodsman then confronts them demanding to know what the hell they're doing. Then the Garchomp shows up. The Woodsman tries to protect the kids, raising his axe. But that’s when Akari’s Pokeball gets dislodged from the tree it’s stuck in and knocks the Woodsman’s hat off. This distracts him long enough for the Garchomp to smack him away, knocking him unconscious.
(“Akari, we just got an entire man killed!!”)
Realizing they’re on their own, Akari and Rei lead the Garchomp away from the Woodsman’s unconscious body. Unfortunately, they run right through the camp, destroying the Woodsman’s stuff, particularly the ceramic jars, which spill black oil everywhere.
The kids somehow trick the Garchomp into falling off a cliff (Rei discovers a narrow ledge/branch and the two make a show of jumping down, tricking the Garchomp into charging headlong off the cliff?). When it doesnt come back up, the kids figure they got rid of it and congratulate each other.
But when they get back to the Woodsman's camp, they hear him cry out in horror. They discover him freaking out over the smashed jars and realize that this is their fault. They apologize but the Woodsman tells them it's not their fault (“Not, I’m pretty sure this is absolutely our fault.” “Rei! Shut up!”). The Woodsman informs them he can’t help guide them anymore, they’ll have to make it out on their own. He at least points them in the right direction to go as he gets back to work on whatever it is he does.
The two leave with heavy hearts but they need to find a way back to their Professor.
Meanwhile… the Garchomp is not dead. In fact, it just found a new target…
After eating a few healing berries provided by Volo, Emmet feels well enough the next morning to head back out. Volo is now his reluctant travel buddy because Emmet is too stubborn to go back home.
Emmet asks Volo what he knows about his brother but Volo has nothing nice to say, just starts ranting. Emmet decides he doesn’t care about Volo’s opinion anymore and goes to look for food instead. Volo fails to notice him slipping away.
Emmet manages to find some trees with a few berries and begins picking them. Then something catches his attention and he cheerfully greets it, offering it some of his berries.
Volo is still ranting when Emmet’s screaming makes him realize he’s been ditched. He flies to Emmet and discovers him with a Gible chomping on his arm. The left cuff of his greatcoat is torn off and the Gible happily swallows it. Emmet’s never encountered a Gible before so he’s both fascinated and upset ("First, my hat and now my coat??"). Volo demands to know wtf Emmet is doing, goofing around with a baby pokemon. But Emmet refutes this and says he was getting more berries when this thing decided to nosh on him. The Gible kinda just gurgles at them. Volo tells Emmet it’s only a baby and that it bit him because it's hungry.
Emmet finds this adorable and offers it more food, but Volo is worried. If there’s an infant Gible running around, then that means there’s an evolved parent somewhere…
That’s when the freaky Garchomp shows up to fuck up Emmet’s day.
Everybody screams.
Even the Gible screams, leaping into Emmet’s arms in terror. This sets off the Garchomp and immediately goes for the human. Emmet grabs the Gible and nopes the fuck out, Volo following close behind and the Garchomp hot on their heels.
The Garchomp winds up giving Emmet a lot of injuries and tries to eat his clothes, biting off the bottom half of his greatcoat ("GODDAMMIT.").
Volo comes up with a plan, but it’s one he haaaaates. Funnier if this is something he’s done before and can get away with because he knows he's unkillable. Equipped with a berry that dragon types are allergic to, Volo flies straight into the Garchomp’s mouth. Gets vored. Then barfed back out, much to his horror and disgust.
But it works.
The Garchomp hacks out a black turtle shell, which turns it back to normal.
…Which is still an alpha Garchomp.
Emmet’s pretty surprised by the size and glowing red eyes. Before the Garchomp tries to eat Emmet, the Gible leaps between them and gurgles to its parent. The Garchomp gives Emmet a considering look before snorting in his face and backing off.
Emmet watches as the Gible and Garchomp head back into the forest and breathes a sigh of relief.
Curious, he picks up the turtle, which pops out of its shell, revealing itself to still be alive. Emmet’s reaction to black turtle: Ewwwww! Tosses it into the brush like a grossed out child. That’s no Pokémon and he doesn’t want to find out what it is.
He checks on Volo and finds he’s still dripping, shaken but he should be fine. Emmet picks Volo up and lets him sit on his shoulder. Volo doesn’t know what to make of this so he gets snarky but Emmet disregards that.
He has Ingo to think about after all.
Part 3
#pokemon#pokemon legends arceus#pokemon black and white#pokemon black 2 and white 2#over the garden wall#under the city streets au#professor laventon#akari#rei#submas#subway boss ingo#warden ingo#subway boss emmet#volo#starly#garchomp#gible#coramatus’s writing
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Like LIKE I really don't want to sound greedy
Because holy shit I did not expect this whatsoever.
This is his thought process at all freaking times holy shit
Kind of want all the important moments like him the meeting of the best champions ever. And the whole reunion with the taken.... there's so much
But most importantly
The "LET ME HAVE THIS or else"
Because you told us a long time ago -I don't know when- that Ingo is extremely good at arguments ( this is three gods it makes logical sense that he would be even better)
That Arceus is insisting in the detached sort of manner that this is how it is meant to be and that baby him is going to be taken and be broken.
And tringo entering this argument against the Pokemon equivalent of an elder god he's never felt more focused on anything ever he's going all in if he's going to win this he can't focus on being human.
Arceus trying trying to shoe tringo out but he won't fucking leave. ( their children won't help as tringo already got them) And they keep going in circles for weeks as tringo uses everything and the world almost ended like twice. ( cuz unlike the creation Trio Arceus can never get it)
[ I just realized that Ingo just had a Karen moment which he is in the complete right in doing]
You don't even have to put it in like fancy terms or anything I just want to know that something like this happened.
YEAH when i said tringo's life is a psychological nightmare... i MEANT it. existing is EXHAUSTING and on top of it all he's so starved for like... regular human contact because as you can see just having a normal conversation is impossible, even if the option was there and people weren't treating him like a god or an object. i mean ffs he can't even LOOK at people half the time because he's too busy consciously trying not to be Scary.
maaaybe... no promises we'll see. maybe if i get bored again
i don't remember saying that but i believe it. he doesn't necessarily LIKE arguing, because going "no you're incorrect and here's why" at people makes him feel like a jerk, but he is definitely very good at it. he's good at staying calm and formulating eloquent explanations that are also easy to parse, and he's VERY difficult to sway in any direction, and yeah, tringo might have a bit of a harder time staying 100% focused but sheer determination does make up for it in the other direction.
mmm... especially if the modern twins are the first people tringo feels vaguely normal around. like for one thing they treat him like a person, and they don't have unreasonable expectations for him being Perfectly Composed at all times (they pretty quickly pick up how much exhausting bullshit he's hiding) and also it's just like... literally easier to stay together around them. their being the champions and being so in sync and holding Truth and Ideals as two halves of a whole rather than two diametrically opposed concepts... that influences the twin dragons in turn and now they spend less time arguing. and suddenly they aren't constantly trying to pry him apart at the seams and picking over his every thought, they match him and he feels, vaguely, whole
and then the fucking creation trio
thinks they get to touch his champions? his family?
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Same anon! Sorry for the spam QnA, but it's interesting knowing more about your author's thought processes! If you have the time, I would love to know how do you characterize Ingo and Emmet? other than the fanstories itself of course 😊 Do you have a guideline? Some perspectives on their characters? Some shipping dynamics? I kinda view Ingo as kind of passive in this case, except for a few moments where he has to break out of his shell (like for pokemon battles where he and Emmet whoop everyone's butt 😫😫). He's a very kind character. And Emmet is a great support! He's very energetic and could be in your face, but he has good intentions even if he doesn't like people very much (Noy shy! just prefers solitude!). Except when it comes to Ingo, to which then he will be do everything!!! Pokemon make them reunite!
-💌 anon
Hello! Back at it again, anon!
I'm honoured that you'd want to know about my thought process! (I myself am not very interested in that kind of thing, so this is new!)
How do I characterise the train twins...? I wonder how I do that myself lol
Okay~ buckle in cos this might be long!
Guidelines on their character: Most of these are adapted from the multitudes of submas fics I've read prior to starting my own. These would include:
Ingo being LOUD and verbose
Emmet having clipped speech with barely any intonation
Frowny Ingo (˚∆˚) with minimal facial expressiveness (he can't help it!)
Smiley Emmet (˚v˚) with all the facial expressiveness
Ingo being polite and Emmet not giving a sh*t
I think much of these stem from how I like the twins having this complementary aspect to one another. They match each other's quirks, compensate for each other's weaknesses, encourage each other's strengths... it's just nice and cool imo ♡ A perfect two-car train! Wonderful synchronicity! Bravo!
Personal perspectives on their character: some of these may overlap with the guidelines bc I'm not sure how common these interpretations are...
Ingo being thoughtful, careful and prudent
Emmet being impulsive, active and spontaneous
Conscientious-of-other-people's-feelings Ingo
Honesty-is-the-best-policy Emmet
Ingo leans towards being a pessimist, correlating with his careful nature
Emmet's an optimist and simply wants the people around him to be happy and have a good time
Ingo is the ideals of their dynamic, able to come up with creative ideas and solutions
Emmet is the truth of their dynamic, able to work towards a goal and succeed, to 'turn the ideals into truths'
They work so well together as a two-car train that any arguments that do happen get cleared up almost instantly (idk how often other siblings fight, but I very rarely have any arguments with my own sibling so...yea)
They can be playful with each other (ie. pranks) but they are mature adults with a job, so they know when to pull the brakes and take responsibility
Emmet has this interesting contrast with being a chaotic, playful little sh*t (I say that with the utmost affection♡) but also possessing the level of responsibility and follow-the-rules mindset of a subway boss... so that's interesting to play around with
I'm probably still missing a lot of aspects but I can't think of anything else rn. Hope these little bits were interesting to read about!
Hm, shipping dynamics... I myself am a gen fic writer so I don't have any opinions on shipping. Not sure why, but it's kind of hard for me to see either twin in their own romantic relationship. They seem kind of... untouchable? I suppose? Perhaps that's evident in the Crystal Conductors AU, since the guys are literally immortal rocks lol. Not much romance to be found there, and if there was, it would be a sad one and I ain't gonna subject them to that.
But, I will comment that your thoughts on their shipping dynamics are interesting and do make sense! Ingo's calm passiveness~ Emmet's peppy enthusiasm~
The twins really do need their heartfelt reunion... *sigh* Alas, I shouldn't get my hopes up and expect too much ;;v;;
Thank you for the ask (again)! It was fun to answer your questions and apologies for taking so long to respond!
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Besides the whole dethroning Arceus argument thing. Do Volo and Ingo ever get into arguments? Little ones for sure unavoidable, but like the big ones? If so what are they about?
Oh sure, of course. I think that they're pretty good about talking through their issues when they do crop up, so full blown arguments is pretty rare between them, but it happens.
Modern day, the biggest one that would probably crop up once or twice about Emmet. Namely the fact that Volo and Emmet have trouble getting along at first, understandably so, but it does cause quite a bit of tension.
Back in Hisui, after Ingo regains his memories, idk if it would so much be an argument, but maybe more of just a really hard conversation about whether or not Ingo wants to return to Nimbasa and his proper time, or stay in Hisui with Volo and the new life he'd made. Ingo does want to return to his life in Nimbasa, but he doesn't want to leave Volo, and he doesn't want to hurt Volo by leaving. That conversation doesn't really have a conclusion, just a somber understanding that time may seperate them again at somepoint, and that they need to enjoy the time they have together.
Volo would never make Ingo choose between him and Emmet, so those arguments/discussions are always short lived, and he knows he has to get along with Emmet, so he puts a lot of effort into making it work. Eventually Emmet and Volo do bond to some extent, and become healthy rivals to one another, much to Ingo's utter delight.
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Reflections of Unova #1
something I think is fun is thinking of similar situations between the "past" Unova life and Hisui, especially since there are so many Unova-related Pokemon and characters that seem to be related to Unova characters, and of course Ingo - so I wanted to do some stories that don't necessarily have much of a plot but illustrate 2 similar things that happened to Kaname with similar Unova characters or Ingo
Somewhere in the Highlands area, Hisui
Ruka pulled his knees up closer to his chest with one hand as he poked at the remaining little coals in the fire with the stick in his other hand. He pulled his kimono tighter around his legs. Kaname's Umbreon, Kabe, sat next to him, his glowing rings bathed the dark cave in a soft yellow light.
He still felt awkward after getting caught in the middle of the argument Kaname had just had with Sneasler's Warden. He was amazed she had managed to fall asleep so quickly after he left. It was good that she was sleeping at least though.
There was a noise from outside. Kabe's ears flicked up, the light from the rings on them flashed before travelling farther through the cave. Ruka braced himself to get up, but he saw it was just the warden again.
"Oh, Warden," Ruka greeted him in a whisper, "Welcome back." He gestured for him to be quiet, and glanced back behind him at Kaname curled up in her blanket.
"I came back to apologize but I can return in the morning," Ingo told him.
"You have nothing to apologize for, in my opinion," Ruka told him. And truly, he didn't. Kaname was an idiot, and had been keeping things from him. The warden had done nothing wrong.
"This is the furrst time in two days that she has actually slept," he continued, "so I, at least, would appurreciate it if you came back later."
"She hasn't been sleeping?" Ingo asked, concerned.
"She told me she slept while I did last night, but Kabe said that wasn't true." The Umbreon nodded. Ruka looked behind him at Kaname again. "Something about the drrrreams she's been having are keeping her up...she normally doesn't toss arrround so much either," he added as Kaname fussed with her blanket in her sleep.
Ingo watched her, with a forlorn expression. He wondered if her memories were even more haunting than his own. After all, she could actually remember the people in them...He wanted to know what memories she had of him. Though. Also he didn't. He started to understand a little why she didn't want to tell him.
Both men perked up as Kaname started lashing out at an invisible foe, fighting with her blanket.
"Shishou--" Ruka grabbed her arm so she wouldn't totally entangle herself. He struggled to keep her arm in place. He yanked on it and yelled at her again. He grabbed her other arm as she brought it up to hit him.
"Ruka-!" Kaname yelled as she jumped awake. She tensed her arms. "Ruka," she said again, her eyes darted over to Ingo and back to him.
"Ruka, show me this is real," she demanded.
"Kaname.." he sighed. Tears poured down Kaname's face as she stared at him intensely.
"You will have to furrrgive me, Warden," he said to Ingo. Ruka let go of Kaname's arms and untied his obi. He removed his kimono and illusion simultaneously. The giant Hisuian Zoroark bent over Kaname.
Ingo felt a little silly, he had assumed they were romantically involved even though he called her "master". He wasn't particularly surprised to find that Ruka was actually a Pokemon, though he wasn't sure why. Perhaps it was because he was a bit odd. Though it seemed familiar to Ingo for some reason, a Pokemon that masquerades as a human...
"I'm right here," Ruka told Kaname, wrapping an arm around her. "You're not in the drrream anymore."
Kaname gripped the fur on his chest, and started audibly sobbing.
"I can put you back to sleep--" Ruka started to offer, as he laid her back down on her futon.
"I can sleep myself," Kaname snapped at him.
"Can you?" the Zoroark barked back at her.
Ingo removed his coat, and draped it over Kaname. He laid down next to her. Kabe came over and sat near her too, he made a soft meow sound. The light from his rings dimmed.
"Ingo...." she whispered.
"How about we all help you sleep," he said.
More tears poured out of Kaname's eyes. She had just been yelling at him and made him storm off, but here he was already being so kind to her again. He wrapped his arms around her; Kaname buried her face into his shirt and cried herself to sleep.
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Battle Subway Main Office, Nimbasa City Unova
"Kaname, are you alright?" Ingo asked her.
"Yeah," Kaname told him, rubbing her face, "I haven't been sleeping good."
"Ah, is your breakup with Elesa bothering you?" he said without thinking.
"No," she answered, unconvincingly. "I've just been sleeping weird, it's fine."
Ingo thought for a moment, and decided to drop it. "What line are you working today?" He was pretty sure she normally didn't work on days there was no Doubles Train.
"I'm just helping on the regular lines today," she yawned, and glanced at her Xtransceiver. "and I gotta head over there, I'll see you later, Ingo."
Ingo raised his hand in a wave as she left the room. He headed over to the Judge's desk.
Cathy, the Head Judge, was sitting at the desk watching battles on multiple screens. She glanced over at Ingo as he approached her desk.
"Cathy," Ingo said, "is it too late to request a Judge change for the Multi Train today?"
The answer was yes but Ingo never asked for anything. "If you want someone different for your section of the train, that's fine," she told him. "Who did you want?"
"Kaname said she was just on a commute line today." He said, "We still do double battles on the Multi Train, so she should be able to judge for us, right?"
"She's judged on the Multi Train before," Cathy reminded him. "I can get her on your platform on time."
As promised, Ingo and Emmet found Kaname in front of the first set of Multi Train doors checking challengers' team sheets before they got back on the train. She was definitely in customer mode but Ingo thought she still clearly looked absolutely exhausted.
"Kanaaa!" Emmet ran over to her as soon as she cleared the pair she had been talking to onto the train. Ingo just barely saw Kaname flash the tiniest little tired smile at his brother. Had anyone told Emmet that she had broken up with Elesa?
"You're worrking today??" Emmet was surprised.
"Clearly," she said, "do you have your team sheet?" She knew he didn't, she was already holding her hand out to Ingo as he came up to her.
"Ingo has them!" Emmet declared. Kaname took the sheets from Ingo.
"Is this right, Em?" she asked after looking at his write-up. Ingo was always amazed at her ability to actually read his brother's scribblings.
"Don't worry about it," he told her proudly, crossing his arms.
"Well, it matches your actual held items, right..?"
"Of course it does!"
Kaname was not convinced, "well remember this when I give you a loss later for your sheet not matching."
"You won't because they match this time," Emmet declared proudly again. This time?? Ingo hoped they really did match.
"Just get on the train," Kaname told them.
****
"I'm sorry we couldn't win today, Emmet," Ingo told his brother at the end of the day. He stood loosely holding onto the pole, gently swaying with the train.
His brother and Kaname were seated on the bench by Ingo. Kaname had fallen asleep. Normally she would frown upon sleeping on the clock but they let her snooze. Sleeping on the train probably wasn't the best for her, but Ingo was glad she was actually able to.
"It's okay," Emmet told him, as he gently removed Kaname's hat from her head. "Also not your fault." He hung her hat on his knee, and stretched his arm across the seat back behind her; her head naturally turned towards him a little with his arm behind it. "Besides, having a rrreally fun battle that made Kana smile is still a win."
Ingo hadn't even noticed, even though he had switched Kaname to their train in the hopes that it would lift her mood. She did not smile often, so if she did like Emmet said then his mission seemed to be accomplished. He felt a little bad, he didn't really pay attention to the judge unless they said something. They do so much and he never really paid them any attention. His brother did apparently. Though...did Kaname always judge for him?
Emmet wrapped his outstretched arm around Kaname in a little hug as the train pulled into the station. He placed her hat back on her head.
"Emmet," she said as she came out of her snooze, "why didn't you wake me up."
"You were tired," he told her. He stood up and offered his hand to help her up. Ingo decided to go ahead of them and got off the train.
"You still should've woken me up," Kaname said, taking his hand and standing up.
"Mind the gap," Emmet reminded her as he took a giant step off the train.
"Yeah yeah," she said, stepping off the train behind him.
#pkmn oc#trainer kaname#warden ingo#subway boss ingo#subway boss emmet#melanie writes sometimes#ruka the zoroark
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Have you decided how Ingo gets returned home? Like, was it accidental? Was there another Rift? Did Arceus notice that Ingo was, metaphorically, lost between the couch cushions and just throw him back?
I was about to say, 'no, I have no idea, mcguffin plot device?' Except then you smacked me between the eyes with "Did Arceus notice that Ingo was, metaphorically, lost between the couch cushions and just throw him back?" and how can I not have that be what happened, yo??? When it is so S-tier???? When it is so incredibly galaxy brain?????
So, here's how it happens: Akari goes home first (and it's official now for this AU that Lucas is the Champion of Sinnoh and Akari is the one who got sent back, so while she's not the Champion of Sinnoh she's also not Dawn (gasp, AKARI AND DAWN ARE ALSO TWINS IN THIS, YES!)), and she's home for a bit, relieved to be there and all, and then she decides to check in on Ingo, see how he's adjusting, and. Um.
Turns out Ingo's still missing.
Cue Akari calling up Arceus on her arcphone and going, "Are you there, god? It's me, Akari. What the fuck, why isn't Ingo home yet?"
And Arceus replies, "Whom?"
"Ingo? Warden Ingo, aka Subway Boss Ingo, who got dropped through one of Volo's stupid rifts by mistake and is now stuck in the past, with no memory of his life and separated from everyone here who loves him?"
"Hmmm, a moment." (scanning scanning scanning) "Thou art correct, 'tis exactly as thou hast spoken - a most grievous oversight upon mine own part, which I shall rectify anon. Until next we speak, hero." (Because, unlike the frickin' professional translators, I actually know how to properly conjugate and use ye olden speak ('thou is' my left foot, that's exactly like saying 'you is,' I'm going to scream into the void so loud Giratina issues a noise complaint)
"Thanks, Arceus, you're the best!"
And then Arceus just frickin' yeets Ingo back to his present time, and decides they're going to be super benevolent about it and let him take his pokemon with him, because the bond between human and pokemon is precious and should not be lightly severed! And they'll even deposit him near his twin, so they can find each other easily, since the world is Very Big and humans are Very Small and Get Lost Easily.
Except the moment Arceus locks onto Ingo, Melli's also there with his own pokemon, and Arceus doesn't look quite closely enough to notice, "Oops, those aren't all Ingo's pokemon, and in fact one of them is actually a second human." And that's how Ingo and Melli go from being in the middle of yet another argument about the torches to a heap on the ground in that park in Nimbasa!
Thanks for the ask!
#Melli in Unova AU#arceus#arceus spoilers#pokemon ingo#pokemon akari#pokemon legends arceus#pokemon black and white#ask#anon#wow I genuinely didn't think this particular question would get answered for this AU#but here we are and I'm so happy!
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Imagine when the adult Ingos reunite after having spent time with their younger selves and the very awkward topic hanging between them of, "You remembered time traveling to the past/future and didn't tell me for over a decade."
They're not mad at each other. Theyre just afraid the other will be mad when they realize they now know. It's more awkward than anything. An air of "who's bringing it up first?"
Copy and pasted another ask that I’m answering at the same time (idk why but tumblr had an issue with my screenshot): “Fun thing in retrospect. Emmet realizing while caring for kid Ingo how much his brother must have cared about him even before their big fight for him to go so far as to find /celebi/ just to prevent an argument because it resulted in Emmet running away. Plus, of course, the question of if Ingo ALSO kept his childhood time traveling shenanigans a secret from his twin fearing what the future would bring.”
*Two decades but... yeah
Its a definite elephant in the room but thankfully they don't let it hang out there for long. When Ingo returns from Hisui the first thing he does is give Emmet a big hug and tell him how much he's missed him, but after he's finished sobbing into his shoulder in relief the first question he asks is, "Why didn't you tell me?"
Now mind you this is before he has all of his memories back. They start trickling in more when he returns to the future, so Ingo doesn't remember time-travelling to the future when he was 10 or all of the things that happened in Nimbasa City just yet.
Emmet tells him the truth--he didn't know how, he was afraid he wouldn't believe him, he was afraid of how Ingo would react, he thought he was protecting him by keeping it to himself. He apologizes and Ingo tells him he forgives him just as quickly. He tells him he doesn't want him to feel sorry for himself. He understands that Emmet's intentions were good and he was just doing what he thought was best for his brother.
As for Emmet bringing up Ingo's time-travelling excursion to visit him in the future, he doesn't bring it up immediately. The way he sees it, Ingo can't rightly apologize for something he doesn't remember doing. After a couple of weeks being back in Nimbasa City Ingo brings it up on his own.
"I've come to the realization that I never told you about time-travelling to the future," he says, sounding very troubled. "For that, I'm very sorry. I should have told you. I hope you'll forgive me."
Emmet gives him a hug and simply replies, "Don't worry about it. Of course I forgive you."
#ask#answer#submas#pla#subway boss ingo#subway boss emmet#au#kid emmet#kid ingo#I…er… don’t know why tumblr had an issue with my screenshot#it kept saying it was blocked? idk why
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I just hurt myself listening to Yoh Kamiyama's song Cutlery(only relevant cuz it's sort of about an argument). So I apologize for sharing the pain.
But what if Ingo and Emmet had gotten into a heated argument over something that ended with one of them storming out of the apartment to cool off and that was literally their last interaction before Ingo gets yeeted into ancient Hisui?
And Emmet doesn't immediately report Ingo as missing cuz he assumes he's mad enough to avoid and ignore him by spending some nights with Elesa and skipping work, maybe suspecting something is off because of how uncharacteristic that would be of him but afraid maybe they went too far and this is Ingo being done with him? At least up until he bumps into her and she says she hasn't seen him since the last time they all hung out. And Emmet just goes into full PANIC at that!
This is much more detailed than I originally thought. The ideas kept coming as I kept writing I'm so sorry!
Hi there Anon! ( •̀ ω •́ )✧ No need to apologize for writing up some ideas! I am always glad to hear them!
So, like, recently a bunch of artists have been enjoying how Emmet says "Okoruyo" (basically, 怒るよ or "gonna get mad!" indicating he's getting frustrated in battle. It's a loss/losing soundbite.) in Pokémon Masters. His incredibly cute Japanese voice doesn't exactly make this very threatening, and most of the art related to it is him half-heartedly telling Ingo to not mess around at work. But we can extrapolate here, and assume Emmet loudly declared this and then stormed out.
He huffs and puffs and pointedly makes himself hard to find. It's tough, they can always innately find each other, but he still tries. And this time, it turns out he's somehow managed to avoid Ingo finding him! The petty satisfaction of this is what encourages him to go home. He'll tease Ingo mercilessly for not knowing where he was! It was the first time in their lives, and he was the one who managed it!
When he arrives home, he dramatically swings the door open, declaring his victory. When Ingo doesn't respond to it, he figures his brother is stewing somewhere. But upon investigation, Ingo is nowhere to be found.
Did Ingo go out to look for him and hadn't come back yet? All of their Pokémon partners were accounted for; it was odd for his twin to not take at least Chandelure with him. Had he worried him so much with his storming out that Ingo had forgotten basic safety measures? Now that he thought about it, the apartment wasn't locked when he came back.
He spends the next few hours feeling more and more guilty while waiting for his twin to return. Ingo wasn't answering the Xtransceiver, which was also odd for him. He replays the things he said in the argument over and over in his mind. Although he had been the one to storm out, he hadn't thought it bad enough to ignore each other. He falls asleep waiting on the couch.
Ingo is still not back the next day. He's worried, definitely didn't sleep well, and he tries to convince himself that he'll see Ingo at work. After an entire shift without his brother, the excuses turn to their friends being involved. Elesa must be letting his brother stay with her. Maybe White came to visit and Ingo was at her hotel after telling her all about his heartless younger brother who worried him sick. Ingo must really have considered it a bad argument if he was not coming home and not answering any attempts at contact.
It's not until he finally caves and checks in with Elesa that the real, true fear sets in. She hadn't seen his brother at all. And now Emmet's search for Ingo is fueled by fear for what happened to him, and guilt knowing that if something *did* happen, it's entirely his fault.
#Blankshipping#Anon ask#ANGST#Anon breaking my heart and I'm breaking theirs right back hopefully LOL#the Xtransceiver is called the Live Caster in Japanese and it's weird to call it otherwise lol
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WE know ingo can’t turn into a pokemon at this point, but Ingo probably doesn’t know that!
do you think he’s got this fear of getting into a really bad argument with emmet and then waking up to see he’s been turned into a hisuian zorua or something? Or he snaps out of a bad episode of missing his hisui friends because he’s terrified of waking up as a yamask?
Like, we know it doesn’t work that way but ingo also doesn’t have bulbapedia. And it’s a reasonable fear to have, considering how many ghost pokemon are just dead people who felt too much when they died
i think it's more a case of "well, if it hasn't happened by now, then it probably won't."
ingo is still a bit worried about it. emmet promises him that he would never let anyone catch him if he got turned into a pokemon, but that surprisingly doesn't really assuage his fears.
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Hi, it's me dogblog from ao3! Feel free to message back if/when you respond, but omg thank you so much for that reply. it gave me a lot to think on and process and i really enjoy the amount of thought you put into it, the characters and story itself. The way they operate always bound together strikes me almost as codependent, but they're certainly capable of being their own people. How do you imagine Emmet takes it post-pla considering how they work together, all considered? (1/2)
Hello!! So happy to see you've hitched a ride here. :D Thank you for asking so many great questions!
It's true that the twins are very bound up in one another, but I'm not sure I'd call them codependent. That's a word that implies a lot of choice – that, rather than seeking out other people, they've chosen to turn away from the world and care only about each other. I think it's more accurate to say that they're each other's supports – it's less that they both showed up to a party, made a beeline for each other, and refused to talk to anyone else and more that they both happened to carpool to the same party, failed to find conversation with anyone else, and retreated to the kitchen together to bond over petting the host's cat Purrloin.
(If it's a League or a Battle Facility party, I do think they could, and would, mingle and have fun talking to other top trainers. But talking with other people takes effort and is exhausting in a way that hanging out with each other isn't.)
Doubt this comes as much of a surprise, but I don't think Emmet would have an easy time readjusting to having Ingo back. Whether Emmet's been going through the motions at Gear Station or throwing himself into researching historical Sinnoh, he's operating under the assumption that once Ingo is Back things will go Back To Normal, even if he knows intellectually that they've both changed a little with the absence. He's clingy and over-fawning, especially if he forgets for a second that Ingo is back and does something on his new autopilot that excludes Ingo somehow, and he desperately tries to make up for lost time and memories with Brotherly Bonding.
At the same time, he's harsh and a little dismissive when he catches Ingo behaving differently than he (was) used to, and when he isn't desperately relating what happened during every minute that Ingo was gone, he isolates himself and coldly snips at him. He knows Ingo didn't mean to leave, but Emmet doesn't like change, and if Ingo had just been there then none of this would be a problem. Both of them have lost some of their intuitive understanding of each other, too, which means there's probably some miscommunications and bitter arguments. But I think their Pokémon do a lot to mitigate that. They don't like to see their trainers fighting, and they're able to play intermediary when a twin goes too far or just needs to talk to someone who gets it but isn't as complicated. Ingo spends a lot of time hugging Eelektross while Emmet vents at Chandelure and vice versa.
(Honestly, that's another thing that the Seven-League Boots version of the reunion sidesteps. It's painful to have found each other and still not be able to go home, but getting to know each other again and reacquainting themselves means they're prepared to live with each other by the time Ingo can move back in.)
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Okay, but there being two Ingo's would be existentially horrifying. Which one is the original? Who's the copy, and who's the original? Is it right to leave the other in the past? How would the other Ingo handle this realization? (I HC that the one in Unova's the copy for Maximum Angst, but who can really tell who's real?)
i mean let's not pretend this is like revolutionary. this is the teleporter paradox and my god has it been run into the ground by every scifi show in existence. ...sorry, i just have strong feelings about this particular topic and how annoying pop philosophy is
anyway "how do we qualify Personhood" is like one of the most foundational questions in philosophy that i think there is, right up there with "how much of our perceived reality is real" and such. and now we're getting kind of absurdly serious for a pokemon au, but ingo is actually a wonderfully screwy edge case. he has been physically transported to a radically different point in spacetime, and also he has zero memories. this attacks a common-sense definition of sameness on two fronts. he's the same person he was before because he occupies the same material form (...except we can't prove that he does, because who knows what happened in the distortion world). he's the same person because there's an unbroken rope of memories tying him back to his past (...except that rope has been severed, and even if it's repaired, you can't retroactively un-sever it for that period of time). even setting aside Cloning Problems, there is materially no way for him to prove he's still himself.
if there's one of them, this is a cool thing for pokemon people with free time to argue over, and probably a thing for him to angst about at 3am while falling asleep, but it's not really a material problem. he's ingo by process of elimination: nobody else is doing it. his personal identity is free real estate. but what if there's already an ingo though. one who arguably has more claim to the identity than him, no less! where does that leave him? this isn't so much a question of copy vs. original as it is a question of "required characteristics for Counting As A Person."
there's a little trick of sameness that's used for similar problems that we can apply here to like, give a baseline: differentiating between numerical vs. qualitative sameness. things that are qualitatively the same have all the same attributes, but something that is numerically the same has the same physical matter. that doesn't really solve the problem though. it gives us more labels to slap on the two, but which one is actually ingo? which one gets to be the subway boss?
the thing that's really unfortunate for hisui-ingo is there's kind of no answer that doesn't leave him the one who Doesn't count: he has definitively less memory and less physical consistency tying him back to the Original. unless you go with "both" but that, while nice, isn't super helpful for sorting out paperwork, ya feel.
going around any question like this tends to leave you with "this is actually a problem of not having the correct language to apply," so i feel like there's an argument to be made for a theory of A Person Is a Pigeonhole. there's a box with your name on it and as long as you retain a rope of characteristics tying you back to every former iteration, you still fit in the box. but the box is two small for two separate people to both fit in there, so a second person would need a new box, which could be very similar but would still be numerically different.
...good god i'm rambling aren't i
#the nemesis speaks#the nemesis answers#anonymous#the ironic thing is i'm not even super interested in this conceptually#it's just not grabbing me? having Two Versions interact#i need a motive to like. care#having a singular ingo worry over whether he Counts As Himself for no good reason though... mm i could get into that angst
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Don't Forget is more about "The world and places you once knew are distant and unfamiliar But just hold onto the light inside your soul, and remember our promise!" We don't know the full context, since we don't know who's singing it. (I think it can apply to either Subway twin: Ingo, haunted by the places and people he once knew that are now unfamiliar, holding onto a forgotten promise of reunion. Or Emmet, surrounded by a station that's no longer familiar, bearing the promise to find Ingo.)
When the light is running low
And the shadows start to grow
And the places that you know
Seem like fantasy
There's a
Light inside your soul
That's still shining in the cold
With the truth
The promise in our hearts
Don't forget
I'm with you in the dark
yeah i just can't read it as anything except someone specifically trying to comfort another person about something. like. it could APPLY to ingo sure but he can't be the one singing it bc he has nobody to sing to
you could make the argument that it's directed at emmet who he remembers subconsciously if not consciously but the problem with that is that the last line contextualizes the entire song as something happening to the person being sung to, and emmet's like. fine. light running low, shadows starting to grow, places that you know seeming like fantasy, not really things that apply to him? and if it's Ingo's Theme i would expect it to emphasize also his own situation, which in this context it doesn't.
i'm being incredibly pedantic here but also i cannot be swayed
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