Hey. Listen. II fandom. Look at me RIGHT NOW.
Just because you hate a character, that won't mean that you can ignore their growth and arcs, and deny that they had any of those in the story, or actually changed in the end. You are allowed to not like a character, but denying that they did get better/denying their arc is bullshit, and ultimately not really getting that the point of the story is changing to be better, or losing yourself in your own misery. ESPECIALLY with characters that thought that what they were doing was okay because of UNDERSTANDABLE REASONS and got to understand that they were wrong, and wanted to fix that.
AND ALSO.
Just because you like a character, it doesn't mean that their actions are immediately justified/or that they were just misunderstood, they still did do all of that shit and portraying them as innocent or well intentionated, and missing the whole point of a character in the process, doesn't help either. MUCH LESS when the character in question was fully aware of what they were doing too, saying that "they didn't mean it" or anything is not getting the point
Go big or go home.
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Uhh weird chat abt why I think nickel’s apology was sketchy
NICKEL.. wasn’t the one who said sorry.
AND BEFORE YOU SCREAM AT MY FACE ANYTHING LET ME SPEAK!! I HAVE A REASON!
let’s talk about clover.
remember an/some episode(s) ago when nickel went on a therapy session with clover? Right?
she told him to rethink his whole life right??
NICKEL DIDNT RETHINK HIS LIFE. CLOVER DID.
It was all clover. Think about it
she’s lucky. She gets whatever she wants because of it too.
if she WANTS nickel to be friends with balloon, she will WISH that he becomes friends with him.
WHICH MEANS. there’s a high chance this whole apology was all just clover’s luck
we’ve seen how that stupid box was forced to do something it mentally/physically couldn’t. And it ended up doing what clover wanted (or at least keep her safe)
think about it. One episode, therapy with clover, next episode? Magically becomes the most nicest man ever and supports balloon while giving him his own space.
His apology felt so off, at first I was like YOOOO NICKLOON!! But in reality it was all clover, it’s just so off to me man.. maybe I just hate nickel or smth
But really think about it, there’s no way ANY person or object would do a full mental switch up THIS EASILY?!
I took YEARS to stop abusing my sisters mentally and physically. There’s no way a fucking month will change him this quick. TRUST. ME.
I was as horrible as nickel and even worse too, it took years of struggle and patience to obtain what I have today! But nickel? NICKEL? NICKEL?!?! makes the luck do it all for him.
and that made me so fucking angry. you made me question myself and why I took so long to change, you are making other people think change is THAT EASY. you PEICE OF SHIT. (Not you dw, I mean AE)
Literally to the point I feel like nickel was like some sort of puppet or smth
Clover: do this
Nickel: alright
AND EVEN WHEN HE DOES IT ISNT EVEN HIS FUCKING CHOICE. IT ISNT. ITS HER LUCK. NOT NICKEL. now nickel feels like he fucking achieved something, when it was all clover.
LIKE COME ON. you made the fandom happy over something that could potentially be a lie?? There’s no way he magically becomes all cute and sweet and STAYS like that after her luck goes away. There’s just no way.
and ofc it had to be clover, it was all just to say “Oh he changed so quick because of—“ EXACTLY. they are cowards. they don’t wanna make the character slowly struggle and try to get better
they wanna get to the point and that’s it
so everyone goes WOAHHHH NICKLOON!! YAYY!! (no hate to the nickloon shippers btw) without taking so long, because they don’t know how to write any characters without some big flaw
So let’s just make clover “help” him!! Cause she’s lucky!! Yay!! And he can just change in a day or two!1 YAYY!!!/s
HERES ANOTHER POINT TOO. SHE CAME OUT OF THE FUCKING BLUE IN THAT EPISODE. “oh I just wanted to be a detective” yeah sure ae. Sureee… sure thing mf. Just solve one fucking word puzzle game and call yourself a detective. Idiots. (Again, pointed towards ae)
take a moment and think about this. Because maybe I’m just wrong, I’m usually wrong anyways. I just need to know I can’t be the only one who thinks that clover was the one who apologized, not nickel.
But for once I feel like I’m right about this, and if I am.. AE im fucking onto you. You fucking cowards.
(and before you ask, no. I’m not okay. I hate how they made me question myself. And I hate how they’re saying it’s so easy to change, and I hate how they’re so lazy about someone’s personality shift)
I don’t hate the animators. I don’t hate the storyboarders, I don’t hate the voice actors, I don’t hate ANYONE in ae. EXCEPT these fucking writers. There are so many better writers out there with ACTUAL ideas and ACTUAL talent, and experience and so much more about life and personality.
even I can write better characters without even planning it out. Imagine. Skill issue fr.
Please note that this isn’t targeted to you either, your opinion on this is valid, so is mine. Let’s keep this chat friendly though.
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Man AnimationEpic don't even know their own content well
In III 13 or whatever episode the latest one was Silver and Candle are trying to psych Nickel out and they go with the "oh but didn't Balloon vote you out in season 2" approach
Which seems to affect Nickel... but I can't imagine why considering it's just blatantly wrong?? SUITCASE voted Nickel out. Balloon voted for HIMSELF. Even considering what spurred Suitcase to vote out Nickel, she was inspired by Knife. Like,,, what?? You should at least be getting the facts of your own show right, come on
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