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ravilson23 · 2 years
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Some helluva boss talk because why not, fandom is active i kinda want to be active too (i think it was a mistake getting in it, but well...)
So what i find is kinda interesting is the fact that i saw quite a few people saying about messed up world buliding, flat characters and bad pacing. I am not a writer so obviously my observations are just personal thoughts.
So first, world building. I like that helluva boss doesnt tell but slowly shows more and more hell in bigger or smaller details. Like for example giving some ideas about Lu Lu World by showing its rip off. Some off hand commenst about hells rings (by Blitzo to Verosica "[...] the nearest ocean is THREE RINGS DOWN!". Moxx singing about Beelzebub and using pronouns "her". I like this because its kinda like solving mystery, you have to watch carefully for clues to get the whole picture. I see why some people may not like it, but personally i think its good to watch somethig and actually think about it. But as much as i enjoy it, its hard to hide that some things could have been showed and yet they werent. For example how to kill different kind of demons? Is death permament or do they somehow reincarnate as some fans like to think? I wouldnt mind it being unanswered if it wasnt kinda essential at this point. Like from 1ep we know imps are immune to fire (at least the normal one, maybe there is hellish painfull version), but a gun can kill them just fine. So we can assume that they are not hard to kill, and most ways will do. But what about regeneration? Is this human like or faster? Knowing this may change the stakes in high action scenes like in ep 6. Stolas may look kinda simplier, because it was said that angelic weapons can kill demon royalty, but if we take a look at his instagram account he can apparently get hurt by bear traps. So maybe he can get hurt by other methods but not killed? Does he feel pain? Probably, if his apparent masochistic or at least sub tendencies can mean anything. Or maybe its just cause instagram posts arent exactly canon? Dont know, but kinda would like to know.
Flat characters. This is kinda interesting because its different for each of them. For me the flattest one would be... Millie. Which is a shame cause she is litteraly in a main cast. Its hard to say anything about her except great assasin, country girl, Moxxies sweatheart. And that would be litteraly all. If she was a backround character it wouldnt be a problem, but the fact that she didnt even get one episode is sad (i dont count 5ep, because it was more about Moxxie, Blitz and Striker than her).
After her would be both Loona and Stella. I dont know... I think there is a big potential with Loona with her being adopted at seventeen, there could be so much thing that happened before that. Her relationship with Blitz also looks interesting so i kinda hope it will be a topic sometime in season 2. Unfortunately now she is just an angry wolf with maybe daddy issues, that wants badly be independent but it doesnt work mostly because of her overprotective impish dad. So she detaches herself from him by ignoring his affections and keeping a distance from other coworkers. Not much but still longer description than Millies.
Stella is... well she is an angry bitch that i personally find very entertaining. She clearly doesnt care about Stolas and probably isnt very motherly towards Octavia. Her biggest worry is social reputation and i am guessing her self-esteem. Its a mere theory but i think that she is lower in hierarchy than Stolas and so she tried to make herself feel more... dominant lets say, by taking him a few pegs down. Maybe because of her brother making her feel lesser than him all the time. Obviously it wasnt said in the show, so for now she just has to stay an abusive wife with not existing anger managment. Which i personally dont mind because i dont think she is important enough to have great depth. At least not yet. At this point I could say something about Octavia, but she was in one episode, so i dont see a point. I just hope she will get more important later, because even though she wasnt here long, we still kinda got to know her. Rich daddys girl, that feels betrayed by his affair, has fear of abandonment but not towards her mother, probably thought her parents had lovely peacful marriage even though its obviously not the case. Interested in taxidermy (unusual i have to say) and obviously has goth teenage rebelious phase. ... Actually there is quite a lot of it already. I think her character actually pretty good, the pattern is clear and well known but the one i find realistic, as a person whose parents were constantly fighting. Its obviously different but similiar enough i feel slightly uncomfortable.
Next i would say we have all of our villans. Exluding cherubs, they are kinda all the same, not counting deer one which i adore. But yea, so Striker, Verosika, Fizz. I wont write about Martha, nor Ozzie who i would say isnt an antagonist, and not about agents. Not important enough.
So Striker, cowboy revolutionist with ego bigger than his horse. I think he is good as an alter ego of Blitz, the person he wants and may be if he chose to leave others behind. He is a manifestation of his pridefull desires born from unfairness of being an imp. Not too complicated, but works very nicely i think. I like that he is actually an enemy of Moxxie, he is his opposite. Confident, strong, talented in everything as it seeems. He makes him question what is truly important, being on top or being kind and moral. Moxxie knows guns, he is an assasin but he still has some moral compas. Which makes him look too serious, weak, and easy to pick on. But about him i will write later (fuck this is getting reeaaaaaly long).
Verosika. Hmm, there is not much to write about her, she is just Blitzos ex that is a key to his past. We dont know much about her personality, she is a bitch but with a good reason, addicted drunk and famous pop star clearly using her fame to gain what she wants. But she may also be a caring lover, if the fact she got tattoo can mean sth, and words she says in Blitzos bad trip. I like she is the first to say anything about Blitzos sister, but its not a character trait so yea, doesnt really change a thing. I would like to see more of her, but of her past self or eventually her making amends with Blitz. I want to see this heartbreak that we had a snippet of in Asmodeus song. So yea, she is pretty flat.
Fizz. I am not sure how to write his full name so thanks whoever that i can just use this. Charming jester, with mean side that made Prince of Lust adore him (I assume). He is veeeery salty, i am seriously impressed. We dont know so much abot him yet, but as Verosika was a key, he is a freaking gate to Blitzos past. I think his character is kind of a mirror, different kind of alter ego than Striker. He is the guy who made his life work even though he lost his literal limbs. I would guess he and Blitz got hurt in the same accident that was in the end reason why they went different paths. If Striker is a vision of being succesfull assassin than Fizz is an image of a famous perfomer. He is an alternative that Blitz could have become but didnt. He has his own noble lover, but he is popular and loved by crowds too. He is rich, and made it to the top despite being an imp. While Blitz is stuck in the past never letting himself heal, Fizz is the one that left it behind while making the best of his life. He seems much less pained about Blitz than Verosika, at least for me, and it seem as if he got mostly over him. Obviously just a theory.
Now lets talk about Moxxie. He is an achor that Blitz needs, (Blitz is aware of it even if he doesnt want to acknowldedge it, as it is shown in Bad Trip). Moxxie is responsible (even overly so), hard working employee that finds rules to be revelant. He constantly reminds Blitz and Loona how work enviroment should look, he is worried about killing innocent and is a cultured eloquent musical nerd. At the same time he is an odd element in this bussiness and so he is constantly being questioned if its really worth being a responsible guy. Being mocked, and harrased by his boss, he is obviously frustrated and i would say even self-conscious. He is trying to keep stuff for himself to avoid being laughed at. Because of all of this he needs someone to have his backs, his dear wife Millie. Their relationship is where he truly shines, it lets him show his skill and worth, which is something he clearly wants. On the other hand for Blitz he is a friend but also o constant reminder of what he wants but cannot have. So by instinct he tries to bring Moxxie down to his level so he doesnt have to feel bad about himself, especially towards someone who may seem so weak at first look. Moxxie isnt an alter ego, but he is the possible future path that Blitz can take.
And now, finally, time for our stars! Stolas and Blitz.
Firstly, Stolas. Rich boy with daddy issues, clueless as fuck, a noble idiot who doesnt know how to be mighty prince nor how to stop seeing everything through his golden glasses. We started with him being a freak in the sheets, and ending up with sad not so old man that is very depressed and lonely despite having a family. Being quite childish, not knowing reality well and taking most of his knowledge from novels, soap operas and books. Especially books. Like damn, he is a nerd through and through. So, i saw some people saying that he was made too sympathetic. I wouldnt say so seeing how many people hate him either for having an affair, or having JUST an affair. Honestly its kinda hilarious. Personally i think as much as he got somehow excused for his actions it was only in case of his relationship with Stella. It still is a mess because he didnt think about his daughter, who was obviously very upset about this development. He didnt think about hells hierarchy and social standing, being very public about fucking imp and ignoring how the deal may look from Blitzos perspective. So sure, the affair got kinda excused but only in one way while many more still stay an issue. Stolas is a symphatetic character that obviously needs and will be developed. His song, owl in the cage or whatever its called clearly is a break through for him. The divorce too. His past was kinda predictable, but his possible future is interesting. Personally i hope he will learn to stand up for himself, when Goetias try to tore him down for bringing a shame to their name. He is not perfect character but thats kind of a point. He has to work through it. I dont think its a bad writing, though honestly the term is kinda unclear in its meaning.
And Blitz. Poor guy with daddy issues. A hell of a boss that makes this show spin. I find him the most interesting because i feel like we dont know shit about him yet. His past was foreshadowed even in the pilot (posters, dad crushing his dreams) and knowing so much we still dont know enough to get proper answers. He is an asshole but has a sweet spot for family. He acts overconfident while clearly hating himself, feeling like a solo act is an impossibility. Keeping everywhere reminders of his past, while running from it every chance he gets. Clown that is not funny, a failure circus kid that still got the big office he wanted so bad, even if its not very pretty. He wants intimacy, but is too afraid to take it. Adopted father of a hellhound, daughter that is very much is sick of his overprotective guts. Literal walking scar. He is full of contradictions and secrets and thats what makes him so interesting. Guy wears the mask 24/7 and i cannot wait to see how Ozzies event will start to crack it open. He isnt a good, honorable character, he is the son of a bitch that has all karma coming back to kick his ass and leave him totally broken so he can completely change. I didnt like him at first but i got invested cause i want to know how Blitz, this walking disaster, got to date famous Fizz, pop star Verosika and literal prince Stolas of the Goetia. Why is he afraid of people leaving, of intimacy, of love and all that jazz. The only thing i am worried about is what if the creators overdid the build up. Literally i have no idea how to make his past tragic enough to connect all this dots and explain his toxic behaviour. I hope i wont be dissapointed because oh boy. The show is quite literally about Blitz, almost every important character is in some way connected to him, so if he collapses the whole show will too.
So wraping this up, female characters are less complicated and more simple, while male ones get to shine. I hope to see this change in the future, i very much would like to meet Blitzos sister and mother (but somehow i feel it will take a loooong time). Even so, i still dont find this very annoying, because the show isnt kinda long enough yet to make everyone interesting, and i am not sure if this is truly needed. I like it more going slow because the pay off is better, so i am feeling pretty patient. Maybe except Millie, she truly needs some kind of a story. Dont know what kind, but still. I kinda wish there was some plot more focused on I.M.P, maybe some political stuff, troubles with law, working for dangerous overlord. Maybe dealing with agents and cherubs? Idk, something beyond relationship drama. Once again I dont think it will happen soon though. I hope to see something more to villians than just alter egos and i am very happy cause it seems like we will find out sth about Moxxies past. I was kinda wondering about this when we met Millies family. The crew need to work hard on explaining Blitzos character cause right now its a core of the show, similiarly to Stolitz. And so, i think the characters could have been written better, but i doesnt bug me very much because i am very invested in the ones that actually got the spotlight.
So last one, pacing. Honestly i dont know shit about this. I dont feel very bothered by the way it is. Millie should be more developed in first season, thats for sure. Its late if she gets it now but even worse if she doesnt. I kinda wish to know how much time passed though, how long is I.M.P. existing, how long did Stolas had a deal with Blitz. This are small things but they are somewhere in the back of my mind. But these are only issues i really have, and if i am honest i am unsure if they are exactly connected to pacing. I find it hard to really understand how that works.
Last words, if u read all of this u are A. Amazing and B. U have way to much time and patience. I am gratefull though if someone took time to listen to me. Thank u.
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Hellava Boss Season Two Spoilers!!!
What if after Blitzo accidentally blows off Fizz's limbs (or whatever he did) and gets kicked out of the circus, Cash Buckzo made him get rid of the 'o' in his name? Because it was a family name and he's no longer a part of their clown family
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rpicons · 2 years
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petitprincess1 · 2 years
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I'm not sure if you heard but supposedly there's a very notorious Helluva Boss take on s2ep1 by the TheLoadingCrew on Youtube that is so bad that it's literally has straight fans arguing with the gay fans right now. I tried watching myself but it was so horribly wrong, homophobic, and offensive that I stopped watching. The criticism is the usual it was badly written, the characters don't act the way I want them too, Stolitz is toxic and should stay toxic. It's turned into a literal "circus!"
Welp....some people legit should just keep their opinions to themselves. I don't have the patience nor drive to watch it. It's just pathetic at this point and pure peasantry. I'm also just tired of hearing that Stolitz is toxic. It was untrue from the beginning and it's untrue now.
Like the amount of people that say that Stolas was blackmailing Blitzo....don't know what the term blackmail means. Everything they did was 100% agreed upon and Blitzo doesn't care if anyone else knows about it. Same thing goes for Stolas, which is why he's so open to flirting with him in public and even bowing to him. Plus, the fact that people want to put all the unhealthy traits onto Stolas, while Blitzo is a walking red flag, is incredibly strange. Their relationship is unhealthy, but not unfixable.
Anyway, not gonna get more into that crap. I'm just tired of seeing that shit with very little to no context to back it up. Once again everybody:
Unhealthy does not equal toxic!
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cepheusgalaxy · 1 month
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Helluva Boss:
I think the name is clever, specially when we kind of got a title drop in s2ep1
Very emotional and more angsty
Has high-stakes action scenes more often then Hazbin
Didn't hit my taste if music until s2, although when it hit, it hit hard
Coreographies are better here, me thinks (looking at t wo minutes notice)
Fizzarolli
Made me cry
Made me smile
Hazbin Hotel
I like this name better, though, because it looks better. Helluva Boss sounds crooked and weird XD even tho its a great name
I feel like its more consistent
Less emotional
I like the Hazbin musics better
Unified color scheme that helps not clashing with each others, although I do enjoy the ring's multiple color schemes and when they overlap it gives a cool effect and I wouldn't change a thing, although. It's just a lot to process
Angel Dust
Made me laugh
Made my eyes water
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ammyeve · 2 years
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Finished S2EP1 of Helluva boss and what the fuck. I was there for the horny demons and the comedy and the murder and now I got feelings. The babies are adorable but please, someone give Stolas a bit of love.
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ravilson23 · 2 years
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U know, after going through some posts and videos about helluva boss, and seing how many people were disappointed one way or another after new episode, i got the conclusion that this fandom waited way too long and got too freaking wild. After 7th episode emotions had gotten high and we didnt get a chance to truly release them even now, so it gave us too much time to think what will happen in future season, and what stuff that happened in the first one meant. So some ideas got too popular and now that they got proved false it suddenly became a huge dissapointment and a sign of a bad writing. Which for me personally is kinda bullshit, because really i wasnt suprised much by what happened. I only didnt expect Stolas and Blitz to meet as a children and be in similiar age but everything else clicked naturally. So i want to share some of my thoughts, probably in a very VERY long post, because i will write everything at once.
1. Stella was being shown negatively from the very begining. The first real scene we see her in already tells us that the state of her marriage with Stolas isnt ideal ( The one where she says Stolas to take care of Octavia, we see the way they sleep, she has all the cover while Stolas has none) and that she may possibly be dissmisive of her daughter. We see pictures on the walls where Stolas plays with Octavia, and yet its much harder to remember similiar paintings with Stella. ( We have one where there are all three of them, but its the only one i can remember honestly) Then we get to hear her rant, about Stolas sleeping with an imp, in their ## bed, [in a motel]like a ## plebian. The plebian part sounds kinda important, because it shows that Stella possibly is more upset about how shamefull it is and not about this being painfull because of some deep love connection that got lost beetwen them. She throws literal imp at him, and later destroys some of his "useless" plants. Then of course in the same episode we hear Stolas trying to explain his relationship with Stella, stuttering things like "Your mother, she always was [...], I wasnt ha-[...],We werent in... "(i am guessing love) and so on. This is so painfully obvious that they didnt want to be with each other. But yea, at this point we still kinda can see WHY Stella later hire an assasin. After all its pretty telling that her husband cheated on her with an imp, the lowest creature in hell. It would mean that she is even worse then the worst, so yea, no shit she got pissed especially after Blitz had fallen naked in her cake. But it doesnt change the fact she didnt think about Octavia at all in it. It seems pretty obvious she would be hurt by the death of her father. So after all this, the fact that Stella turned out to be a bitch isnt suprising at all. Even if she is a very agresive one. But, again, i feel like we will see more why she is like this, because A. she was shown being worried what her brother, not parents, will think about their divorce and B. her voice broke at the end, which may suggest some stronger emotions. Its a freaking first episode, for me patience sounds like a good idea.
2. The deal with childhood friends is kinda interesting because Stolas and Blitz arent truly childhood friends. And i feel like it isnt said enough, because i see a lot of people that are upset about this. And i get why, because it sounds as if taken straight from fanfiction. And i wasnt a fan of this either. But for me it actually makes sense, because i was always wondering how the heck did Blitzo make Stolas lust for him. How did it happen that some random imp just got laid with a literal prince. Well, apparently he wasnt random. Stolas had thought about him as his first friend, despite not remembering his name after 25 years, probably seeing him only this one time. While Blitz even then was meant to be his playmate, being literally bought like a toy. Nothing really changed after all this time, because even now they still have very different visions about whats beetwen them. For Blitz its about gain, while Stolas craves real connection, wanting to believe so hard in this, despite the odd circumstances. For me the most interesting part in this scene was Blitzos reaction after Stolas called him his first ever friend. His face is beautiful, as is his sudden decision to actually fuck the owl.(this sentence sounds so wrong) Personally i think its because Blitz at this point had lost all connections to his past, Barbie Wire, Fizz, his mother and probably his father. Stolas is the last one that still, very poorly but still, is a part of this past. The one person that havent left, probably because of some real tragedy. I think Blitzo never got over it and would like to go back to easier, happier times. And at this moment Stolas can give him this. At least thats my interpretation.
3. Fizz and Blitzo playing with ballons is obviously a foreshadowing, but i am more interested in how accurate it is. Blitz says Wormhorse lost his legs in Great Pirate War, becuse he couldnt run fast enough. As it was later established, Pirate Game is a way for Blitz to stole from Stolas, so i am guessing it will either bite them later in the ass (specifically Fizzs) , or Blitz will try to steal sth with Fizzaroli but with very dire consequences. Personally i am curious about method, because over time it became quite popular opinion that Blitzos scars are from fire in which the circus probably went down. But this little game may suggest otherwise. Also, its curious that Banana Pudding stays to dance around Wormhorse to make him feel better. I expected Blitz to flee immadietly but it sounds like it may not be the case. And then comes more blood. Very interesting.
And last thing, very short one, because i am dead tired. Stolitz isnt interesting because its gay, its interesting because the relationship beetwen characters is complex. At least for me. I wanted to say this because i heard there is some drama, people saying that criticizing this ship is homophobic. It isnt necesserily true. If someone watched up to second season then i dont think the reason they are upset is beacuse the characters are queer. Thats all. Thank u if u read all that, i am seriously impressed. Please lets all be chill and just enjoy the show without unnecessery drama.
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rpicons · 11 months
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