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kifu · 6 months

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Long chicken rambles with pictures as I try to figure out what I'm doing next year.

My biggest problem that I'm encountering is I have so many ideas and so little space, right? I have the pen that I built this fall, that's to be sectioned off into two separate sections that can hold about five to six chickens each. It's currently my overcrowded oldest grow-out pen that I need to dig out all the straw from so that the ground can actually drain. It's a mess in there and straw is detrimental, just fyi.

That's two larger breeding groups. I also have my cock block pen in the barn, which can hold around seven or eight birds. That's my younger grow-out pen at the moment, also where all the birds that for some reason can't brave the grow-out pen go so that they can get some fluff back to their feathers. Originally, the cock block was designed to be split in half, but I will not be doing that. I kind of like it just the way it is.

I have a chicken tractor that I built a few years ago. It can hold about a trio. It currently has my bantam hold backs.

I miiiiiight be able to make room for two or three pairs and maybe another trio. Maybe. Bantams go in rabbit cages for breeding season, so they're not an issue.

So first project bird that I have is with my big boy. I love love love this cockerel. He's half cochin, half sussex. I have one matching pullet to go with him, and if I have the room, another younger pair of him with shitty quality black. The purpose of this project next year is to create a speckled sussex pattern onto large fowl cochin - or a proper mille fluer cochin. I believe when I did the math, I have a one in eleven? chance of hatching out just the chicken from him and his lady. They're both mottled, so that's one less recessive that I have to worry about. They carry for partridge. They both also have one copy of columbian pattern AND mahogany, it just doesn't express on black.

Honestly, thinking of it now, I think I'm wrong in my earlier math. Chicks have a 25% chance of hatching out partridge, and then a 75% chance of at least one copy of columbian and then of mahogany. I certainly don't need them to be homozygous in either of the dominant expressing genes. That's a mere 14% chance of hatching out the visual color I'm after. That's a one in seven chance.

I might have issues with foot feathering, putting f1 birds together instead of back to a cochin, but that theoretically puts me at a 10.5% chance of hatching the color with foot feathers, which is still better than one in eleven. (Though I explicitly remembering coming up with 14% so I think I just remember the fraction math wrong. I don't think my math was wrong, just faulty memory.)

ALL THIS TO SAY - I want no less than a trio of phenetically mille fluer cochin out of this pen. Then I say goodbye to all my f1s. *cry*

Because ohmydear just look at that cockerel. He's gorgeous. Very striking, even if he makes a shitty cochin.

Next project that is of utmost importance involves Mr. Wyandotte sir. This cockerel - oh I went through SO MUCH trouble to get him and he's just amazing. I LOVE how well he's growing up, especially since I got him, and I'm so so so excited for the project he'll be involved in.

So the thing is, I don't have any gold laced cochins. None. Zip. I am NOT messing with dominant white and silver so ... I'm putting him over a couple partridge hens. My partridge are not good quality, but they'll get the project started. At the very least, their offspring will have some feathers on their feet and their combs will be split to single.

Using a cock with homo dominant white will result in dominant white pullets and cockerels. I'm just going to have a mess with lacing (and breeding out leaking black). HIS lacing isn't great, but buff laced is a project in wyandotte as much as it will be for me in cochin. I'm not sure how dominant white plays in hetero form, but I'm sure I'll find out next spring.

Hopefully I get some choices in pullets and cockerels out of his pen and get to keep the best lacing, because they'll be het in EVERYTHING. Pattern, melanotic, columbian - but thankfully those are ALL dominantly expressed. What really works for me on this is that both wyandotte and cochin work their laced varieties on the partridge base, so ... I don't have to mess with extension genes on this project.

A less important project, but a project that I have an f1 cockerel for anyway, is blue laced silver. This boy is a result of a silver laced cochin over a blue laced red wyandotte. So he's het silver, which causes some CRAZY gold leakage. But considering his mother should be MAHOGANY as well, it's not gold leakage as much as RED leakage.

This boy has better lacing than ANY other laced bird with feathered feet. Quite possibly any laced bird on the property.

I know I've talked about this boy and stressed over the future possibilities with him before.

I think I want to put him over both silver laced girls that I have. Theoretically, I make half boys with his level of leakage, and half boys with the proper homo silvering and (please) no leakage. And half silver pullets, half gold pullets. Then half of ALL THOSE, blue.

So, keep anything blue and silver, of course. But I'm really tempted to keep everything not gold, but RED laced with blue as well. Which will be all pullets, but ... no, I think I will. I'll keep the blue laced red and maybe blue laced gold because THAT WAS AN ORIGINAL GOAL.

My problem with the silver laced is that my pure silver laced cock died just a couple weeks ago. Out of the blue, he just dropped dead in the main flock. So fuck - I might just keep anything silver laced, idfk. Just get rid of the yellow laced (ie het silver) cockerels, I dunno.

(By the way - that sussex hen beside the silver laced hen is one of the probable mothers to big boy. That's the color I'm seeking in that project pen.)

Next big big project is chocolate. I have one older boy growing up that is out of my mauve splash cochin hen, and I have one older boy growing up that is out of the chocolate orpington. I have my chocolate hen that's actually really nice now that she's grown her feathers in. Finally. I miiiiight have another cockerel in the youngest hatch that's out of that mauve splash hen, but it's mostly a brooder full of pullets. Which are useless to me in this project. How often do you hear complaining about hatching out a ridiculously disproportionate amount of pullets? I also miiiiight have a chocolate cockerel out of the orpington hen and then mauve bantam cochin. If that is a boy, I'll keep him on reserve.

I actually am a little impressed with how the type is coming along on this blue cockerel. He's leaky as fuck, which is incredibly annoying. For one, he's out of two solid birds, so where did it come from? And breeding out leakage is one of the last things I want to do in my chocolate project. The amount of leakage on him suggests that he's NOT from the mauve splash hen, but I have absolutely nothing else that he could be out of but an even better blue hen. Ironically enough, the black that's most likely out of the orpington is almost as leaky, so I'm not sure what's going on here.

I'll know within a couple hatches whether or not he's split for chocolate. If I hatch out zero chocolates, he gets eaten and I substitute in the orpington cross cockerel(s).

I know that I'm putting at least two of my nice hens under him. I'll probably give him the mottled hen and the typey black pullet I have growing up. I don't know if I'm going to put the chocolate hen under him. If I have the space, I'd really rather she got paired up with the nicest blue cockerel that I have. I don't want to work with mauves, but I'm not about to be a chooser. I'll be getting mauves out of the blue cockerel anyway.

I have three blue cockerels and a splash cockerel growing up. I somehow got every one in on this picture. The lovely raggedy guy front and center is the cockerel I hatched out of the blue hen this year. The other three, I bought. I technically have the one I hatched up for sale because his comb is an absolute mess, but he has some very promising type.

I don't know if I'll be using a single one of these boys next spring, but I want them around to see if I can use them to improve on the type I already have grown up. But I do know that if I have the space, the best one will get paired up with my chocolate.

My black boy is the main man from this year. He's filled out SO MUCH these past couple months since I took him out of the breeding pen. He's almost impressive. I love how much his chest comes forward, but I would like to see a lot more depth to it. His tail has filled out immensely this year, but he still needs so much more depth to it. He's still better than most cochins I see around me. But this is the boy to beat in my programs.

He's getting my barred hens, even though Basketball is probably done laying for life. He also gets my blue pullets. There's at least three really nice ones growing up. And when I say that, I think I mean that the blue hen pictured above is the best cochin I own. She also forgot what hygiene is, but the amount of mass she's gathering as she grows - and how forward and deep her breast is already - I'm excited for her specifically. And I really think my barred hen(s) have a lot to offer in the cushion department. They don't necessarily have the depth of cushion, but they're way fuller than anything else I have. The barreds just really lack foot feathering in comparison.

But his pen - his pen is where I crunch down on TYPE. No funny color business (though I would kill for a barred cockerel out of that pen ...). Just black, blue, and ... yeah that's probably all that'll hatch out of his pen.

IF I had space, I'd put the typiest cock with the blue hens. Whether that be black boy or one of the blues growing up now - even though that's really difficult to judge when cochins take tonever to grow up. And I'd put the next typiest cock with the barreds. So that I could keep it separate and actually know what the hell I was hatching out. I don't think I have that luxury.

Last big project is the partridge. And the partridge shouldn't even be a project, but their type begs it so. I have three partridge cockerels growing up - all of them better than their sire. I'll keep one. I have ... three? partridge pullets growing up. They're really just around because I haven't sold them yet. I sold all of my oldest partridge grow-outs from this year to pay for rabbit feed. I also have three partridge hens. The wyandotte gets two of those partridge. I want one or two under the partridge boy.

Because I also have a good handful of black pullets growing up out of the black boy and the partridge hens. I think I also have one cockerel, but he can go. I'm going to keep the typiest two and put them under the partridge cockerel. Sell everything that hatches out black, and hope that my partridge type improves and that the melonizers don't totally mess with the partridge pattern.

I also really would like to put the blue laced red wyandotte back under a partridge. I hatched out zero blue things out of her and my partridge from this year. My dad hatched out two. I know for a fact he's keeping the pullet, but even if he's not keeping the cockerel I can bet that he's gotten rid of him already. I really do want blue laced red cochins. So between this pen and the pen of silver laced blue things, I actually have a decent chance of making a blue laced red pen for next year.

OHMYDEAR. I forgot about my wheatens. Fuck. I have two gold wheaten maran pullets that I got from FFH to make wheaten cochin. I need to put THEM under one of the blue cockerels. Ha. Oh shit. They'll make 100% blue or black birds that carry for wheaten, but it'll just be like the f1 sussex cross from this year. I'm not a huge fan of gold wheaten. HOWEVER, I have a couple different directions that I can later go with wheaten: silver wheaten (or better yet, take the next step, add mahogany and have salmon cochin) AND FURNESS. Furness would be a project. A really big project by isolating the melanotic gene from the laced birds, and then adding that over top wheaten, but absolutely theoretically doable. But quite honestly, I'm ahead of myself. I'll be happy with gold wheaten in two years from now.

Big pens are absolutely going to the type flock and partridge flock. But I just need to figure out how I'm safely separating these guys to get started next spring.

(I just don't want to think about winter, let's be honest.)

#chicken rant

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cursedworms · 2 years

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Succession characters as birds by sopy and red

me n @crvptidcore spent an hour and a half assigning birds to the main bitches from succ bc it’s very important, pls enjoy

kendall - thick billed murre

logan - northern shrike

roman - puffin

shiv - crimson chat

connor - bearded reedling

greg - long billed curlew

tom - brown peacock

gerri - gold laced wyandotte chicken

willa - cinnamon headed green pigeon

marcia - spotted shag

#succession #hbo succession #kendall roy #roman roy #shiv roy #tom wambsgans #connor roy #logan roy #greg hirsch #gerri kellman #willa ferreyra #marcia roy #succession shitposting #succposting #succession characters as birds

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verifiablebot · 4 years

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dandelion theif

#my pets #chickens #club sunshine #gold laced wyandotte

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ilraksroost · 1 year

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(Forgive the older picture of the girls - I need to get a more updated "Squad" photo soon)

I've been taking my mom some eggs from the girls and she stated that the eggs all had different flavors (she's been doing them hardboiled). My husband and I have been doing them as fried or scrambled in sandwiches but after Jasper and DB Cooper's first eggs, we hadn't tried them fried or scrambled without any seasoning (just because my husband and I are used to doing wild things with seasonings).

Taste test results and image IDs under the cut.

So we went over to my mom's with a dozen eggs on Sunday and set up a taste test, throwing in one of her store bought eggs from when we weren't able to get together last week.

The results:

Cleo (an Easter Egger, lays the gigantic green egg)- strong rich flavor, creamy - to note, she is our smallest hen but lays the largest eggs at about 64 grams.

Olivia Warbawks (a Black Copper Marans, lays the dark brown egg) - mild flavor, not as creamy. Still amazing though

Bernadotte Peters (a Gold Laced Wyandotte, lays the larger light brown egg)- between Cleo and Olivia in flavor and creaminess

DickButt "D. B." Cooper (a Blue Laced Barnevelder, lays the medium brown egg - her name came from a friend)- Bright, strong, mustardy. Had a nice aftertaste on the back of the tongue.

Jasper (a Buff Orpington, lays the smallest, light brown egg)- Creamy, somehow Sweet?!

Store bought (white egg)- no.

I should also add they all seem to have their own favorite forage foods so maybe that's what led to a difference in egg flavor. It's going to be interesting when watermelon and flower season start up again for the girls!

[First Image ID: A picture of six eggs, arranged in a circle on a counter. From the top, going clockwise, there is a dark brown egg labeled "Olivia Warbawks", a small, light brown egg labeled "Jasper", An extremely large green egg labeled "Cleopatra", a white egg labeled "Store Bought", a large, light brown egg labeled "Bernadotte Peters", and a Medium brown egg labeled "D B Cooper". /.End ID]

[Second Image ID: Five chickens standing in a chicken run a There is a Blue chicken with brown spots, a Black chicken with a copper colored neck, a Brown chicken with black lace markings, a brown chicken with a fluffy tan beard, and a yellow chicken. They are grouped together in the center of the image and all except for the yellow chicken are looking into the camera. The yellow chicken is not looking at anything in particular. /.End ID]

#chickens #hens #eggs #chickenblr

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chicken-children · 6 years

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The Queen

#bird #chicken #birdblr #pet chicken #gold laced Wyandotte #coyote

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a-chicken-mama · 6 years

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Eggolas is just gorgeous. Check out those beautiful feathers. Golden Wyandotte.

#wyandotte #gold lace #gold laced Wyandotte #chickens #my coop #my chickens #my flock #backyard chickens #backyard flock #chickenblr

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iseultsdream · 3 years

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Aug 29, 2021 -two of my older hens taking a mid-dayrest on a very hot day in early August. The hen on the left is a Gold-laced Wyandotte, and the one on the right is a Plymouth Barred Rock -taken Aug 4, 2021

#chickens #hens #gold- laced wyandotte #plymouth barred rock #island #martha's vineyard #massachusettm #new england

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mings · 1 year

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Yes, I've been quiet lately, and this is why.

Long story short - we were caught by the chicken bug. We went to see a breeder about some Gold-laced Wyandottes (look them up, they're simply gorgeous) and came away having agreed a deal to become a satellite breeder. We'll be hatching rare and endangered traditional breeds of poultry for which demand outstrips supply.

So, preparations are in hand. This is the first hen palace that will house four breeding pairs. It's actually a repurposed garage that someone just wanted gone. It cost a van hire and a couple of hours graft to dismantle it and bring it home, and that's when the real work started.

It was built from scratch on a concrete base, so I took it apart with a sawzall. After adding framing and tidying the cuts, I built a timber base. That was easy, but the site is on a 10° gradient, so levelling it was... interesting.

As we were blessed with a few days of high pressure and zero wind, we've been flat out before the weather turned on us. Bailey helped keep the roofing felt down while I cut it. Now it's up, the roof is on & and it's covered in creosote, which defeats red mites. Now I can start on framing the indoor runs, which will mean we can accept the birds. We'll add larger outdoor runs too, and then we'll start on the next henhouse because we don't do anything by half.

#hen keeping #henhouse #scotland #highlands #diy #agriculture #bailey was helping #addicted to hens

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kifu · 10 months

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More chicken rambling. Because the chickens are doing a hell of a lot more good for my mental health than the rabbits. I'd like to figure out breeding pens now.

First and foremost, I know that I need a pen of buff laced project birds. Which will either be one partridge cochin roo over both buff laced hens, two buff laced roos over two partridge hens, or ... I haven't figured out exactly what I want to do if I get a wyandotte hen and a roo.

I'll be culling out a LOT of partridge chicks at some point this year for toe feathering, which I think they're inheriting from my current partridge roo. Which means he needs to be culled out, too. I have one partridge cockerel that looks to have better feathering than his sire, but there aren't a whole lot of them overall despite the sheer number I've hatched out. That's probably going to be all that I can cull them for this year, however.

I want to put my current partridge hens under my black roo this year, too. I stupidly let them out with the main flock, which includes my bantam roos, so I might hatch out some weird ass things, too, for a minute. But if I can get some black split to partridge chicks with feathering and *soft tail feathers*, I would be ecstatic. So for next year, the partridge plan would actually be to breed THOSE chicks together. A trio or a quad, I dunno. I haven't even paired these chickens up to make these chicks yet.

I also have hatched zero blue things out of my blue laced red wyandotte hen this year, so I want to put her under a partridge roo next year again. Get more blue laced red cochin crosses. I do have a boy out of her with a single comb, so if I could keep a couple blue things with single combs, that would be great. But next year, she's just paired up all alone with a boy - hopefully a boy with better feathering than current roo.

I have a lot of silver laced cochins growing up right now out of my current pair of silver laced. These are even uglier typed than my partridge, so I might just keep a new pair based off of pattern. If I can keep a hen or two with better lacing than my current hen, I think I'll be happy enough. No point in crossing these over to the partridge for a start to gold laced until the partridge are up to snuff.

I just bought a handful of show stock blue cochins this weekend along with the buff laced wyandottes, so I'll put together a, uh, show pen, so to speak. Put my best typed birds together. If it's my current black roo, cool, but if not, that's fine. I have yet to hatch anything out of my barred hens (at least, I think so), so I'd like to put them under a separate black roo than the blues. My current blue hen will most likely be culled. She has stiff tail feathers, and since I just got a handful more blues, I don't need to deal with that.

I have ... splash? cochin chicks for a reason unbeknownst to me. I need to figure out where the fuck they came from, because the oldest of the splash has zero tail feathers so far, and it's growing up cute. Still. It's not genetically possible for me to get a splash out of my pens this year, so I have no idea where it - let alone the other two - came from. Based off of type, I'd say it came from my black roo, but ... he can't make splash. idfk. But like once I figure out what the fuck they are, I might incorporate them in a breeding trio or something with a black if I can. To ... further ... figure out what on earth is going on.

I also put speckled sussex under my black roo this year and have a fuckton of their babies. A lot of them, mottled. Soo I'll keep my chunkiest trio of sussex crosses with mottling and make a pen of those next year, too. I'm actually pleasantly surprised at how plump those are turning out so far. I'll be keeping partridge based babies out of that pen, and if I'm only breeding mottleds together, they'll all be mottled, so ... instant jubilee cochin. lol

I bought wheaten marans for a wheaten project, too. Those were supposed to be pullets and still look like pullets, so I need a partridge roo for them, too. Keep a trio or quad from them, breed out the pattern gene, and keep the wheaten colored chicks. Breed over to cochin type. Or ... maybe I'll use a black or blue roo instead, NOT worry about the pattern gene, and breed back down to wheaten anyway. That's probably a better idea.

On top of all that, I'm hoping that I can keep the shittier looking black or blue roos I hatched this year, hope they're out of either my splash mauve hen or chocolate orpington hen (this should hopefully be easy to assess from shank color? if I actually pay attention to that?), put them over a couple black (or blue) hens, and see if I can hatch out chocolate cochins. Because that's something that I've really, really wanted to do.

Speaking of - I got one black cochin chick along with the handful of blues ... and there's a possibility that it's split to lavender. So ... it'd be nice to keep THAT chick separate from everything else, too, mark its offspring, and breed a handful of its offspring back to see if I can hatch out lavender.

So ... that's enough projects, right?

buff laced

blue laced red

black split to partridge

silver laced

wheaten under black/blue

mottled black split for jubilee

black/blue split to chocolate

black possibly split to lav

splash to black

barred under black

any show typed blues if i have extras

And now I know how many pens that I need to put together. Heh. Dear oh my, my wife might kill me.

On top of large fowl cochin projects, I do still have my bantams. This year, I put my lavender under black mottled, and she made so many babies. So I'll keep a quad or quintet of those and keep the lavenders. I also have my pen of mauve things. I really need to watch out for my boys, because I had a mauve roo over black mottled hens ... and I don't know which black split to mottled roos are out of him versus the black split to lavender roos. Might keep a nice looking blue cockerel out of him and try to replace most everything in that mauve pen. I might put the mottled blacks back together for more show type birds. Might put them under my silver birchen because he's a cutie, possibly moreso than the birds actually from the show lines. But I don't want more than like three pens of bantams, because my focus is definitely going to the large fowl.

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