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#f1 merch is so expensive why
rubberstains · 1 year
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real image of me buying f1 merch (REAL) even though I want to quit my job + 0.1 cents in the bank
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emms47 · 1 year
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accio-victuuri · 1 year
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CPN : stock photo clues care of xiao laoshi 🔍
all of this is clowning and connecting things that may or may not be related. that’s just how cpns work. if you don’t like it then scroll along. if some things don’t make sense to you then it doesn’t. don’t take this too seriously. i’m trying to add as much clues and cpn as i can but it will be virtually impossible to catch every single thing that will be talked about.
i’ve already talked about the same/similar furniture here cause that was so rude of them. lol. the photo in question for WYB was from his oasis post last 4/16/2019 and was about BAPE’s F1 merch. There are two other photos from that post so you can see more of the sofa in question. GG’s looks like it doesn’t have the backrest, but it seems to be the type that’s removable. I think the term is modular furniture or something like that. the wall behind too ( GG’s ) is similar to WYB’s ( p2 ) 1- I know it’s not the most unique paint shade in the world but you know what i mean. Also GG’s is 2022 so that’s some years apart and the look of it may change. what’s sus about this is it’s not the first time we CPNd them in the same place.
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this is a visual representation of how they took their respective photos from the alleged same sofa. 😂 please im cackling! turtles are too funny!
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Now let’s look at the other photos one by one and see what we can find 👀
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P1: Wonder what this is? It’s called roasted brain flower, apparently. As per baidu search it’s described as : A traditional snack in Sichuan and Chongqing. It is roasted with pig's brain mixed with sea pepper powder, pepper powder and other seasonings. Now where did we see this featured before? In TTXS and WYB samples it. TTXS does a lot of these things, trying everything from different regions so this is not as CPN as we think. Also one popular restaurant that serves this has WYB’s face in their store because of that TTXS episode. Coincidentally, XZ also has a signature memorabilia from the same store.
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I won’t talk about the jianguo photo anymore cause it’s the big 🍭 here. and let’s appreciate how cute this princess is! her cheeks!
P2: Of course, he will use this type of effect so we don’t know exactly what it is. Good thing turtles are detectives lol. The first guess is that it’s the titanic lego set because there was a LRLG fake rumor before that seemed to talk about it. it was about purchasing something that is expensive and the word “ship” was mentioned. At the time, this titanic set was out.
I mean, the lights/shapes and all that seem the same. This would be okay if GG was known to play with lego but he’s not. We all know who is tho. Either this is a photo taken by GG when WYB built it and he decided to share it a stock photo. Or this from WYB and he ( GG ) edited it.
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Another more logical guess is it’s a night cruise ship that goes around Chongqing and you can eat there too. It’s one of those things that I can’t tell if GG is doing this because he knows he can get away with it. Any sensible / casual fan would think it’s some cruise ship or whatever. Focus on jianguo and his selfie. It’s only us tbh that would think about the Lego.
P3: The freakin hand held fan of destiny lol. We’ve all seen the tape he had on it during the WDB wrap up. We thought that it was broken or it may be a marker, tho the more popular guess is it was damaged. Now he’s using something that is in good condition. CPN is, he got Yibo’s. because WYB was seen using a really small one lol. Or maybe WYB bought a new one for him. Who knows. This hand held fan truly is one legendary piece of turtle history 😂😂😂
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P4: AHHHH THE SELFIE, where he is wearing airpods when he answered he prefers wired headphones. sure. Also yes we can see your apple watch. The watch all turtles are eyeing between the two of them. They are both endorsing watches GG ( zenith ) and WYB ( casio ) so why are you both showing that off? 😂😂😂
The peace sign is also a match to Bobo’s — which was something we CPNd ( sort of ). Yes it’s a common gesture when someone takes a photo but whatever.
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but i think the more important question is where are the other photos?
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paddockpr · 6 months
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Hey, something has been bugging me, and im wondering what the pr perspective is. What on earth is the pr strategy for most of the teams when they decided to publicly state that they hate the idea of Andretti joining? It just comes off as whinning to me
Hey anon, thanks for the question!
What you are seeing here has a lot to do with how teams use or attempt to use their PR positioning. This is also a major example of why PR is so important, which is that you can leverage it for things that go beyond brand image and go into the very nature of profit in sports. I will briefly touch on the PR of F1 for context and then talk about why teams may be behaving this way.
F1 PR
When it comes to F1 there is one thing that is paramount to understanding its business model, which is how exclusive it is, Even if they accept the Andretti bid that is part of the appeal. F1 sells itself as exclusive and luxurious.
Where other motorsports are also expensive and highly exclusive, they may present themselves as somewhat rough and tumble, with a lot of emphasis on ideas of grit and being "hardcore" so to speak. You see it a lot when fans of one motorsport weigh in on which motorsport is the best one in terms of skill and the likes by weighing in on racecraft related skills like endurance, frequency of collision and strategy. The other thing to understand is the luxury aspect and the monetary value of that.
I touched on the association with certain groups on the Charles essay, what with the Monaco GP, and things like high profile guests etc come into it, but another element of that is that luxury in sports also is the means through which teams justify the high price tag to participate in the sport as a fan.
You can also see this in things like the culture around attending Wimbledon (a similar feel to the Monaco GP) or Equestrian Dressage and so on. And whilst generally sports merchandise is expernsive regardless of the sport, and the fans that frequent these sporting events live are not the average fan (hence the importance of things like viewership and social media engagement which are less cost prohibitive than for example going to a La Liga final or the Superbowl in person and has not just merch and tickets, but food, hotels, transport and so on but that is another essay entirely). F1 is a whole other ball park of that.
F1 sells that its luxury and exclusivity is a necessity. If you look at most sports, a big part of sports journalism is about growing the game, even ones considered to be the domain of the rich like tennis. And when teams sell to audiences they are selling their merchandise, yes, but they are also selling the rare opportunity, perhaps the only one to invest in being a participant.
F1 tracks are predominantly in the middle of nowhere and are already logistically difficult to go to, there is emphasis on the heritage of the sport and most of the sponsors outside of gambling companies are also for people who make a lot of money.
Think about the response to a potential Porsche-RBR team versus RBR-Ford, or about the Mercedes team uniform and merch being Tommy Hilfiger. The luxury and prstige with a high price point is part and parcel of how F1 makes its money.
If you participate in the sport outside of social media and TV, the cheapest parts of participation (like a standard issue team cap or a lanyard) are pricier even compared to other motorsports like NASCAR. I remember last year the special pride collection from NASCAR was cheaper than any standard issue F1 merch. And this is actually where (at least I think haha) Andretti comes in.
The Andretti Animosity
Andretti comes from the American (although American motorsports is extremely popular outside the US but once again, another essay) cultural understanding of motorsports which is more laid back, more easily accessible and is understood to be cost prohibitive but not to fans. American motorsports have a host of accessibility issues both in person and through things like TV, and like most sports the fans that can afford to attend are the minority, the kind of pricing around F1 for fans would be considered to be outrageous.
Yes in those spaces F1 is also seen as this high price point product, but if IndyCar for example were to sell at the price point of F1 it wouldn't fly. For F1 with some of the cheaper tickets being (at least when I looked it up) 2000 USD when its expensive to spend 200 USD at IndyCar, the amount that F1 fans pay to attend is steep. And then F1 says, yes but there is only 20 drivers and 10 teams with some of the most expensive engineering in the world and therein lies the disgruntlement re 11th teams and the idea of how much dilution fees should be.
They likely are not refusing Andretti because they think its beneficial PR wise, they are trying to leverage the PR that they have because they perceive any 11th team as a threat to exorbitant pricing and sky high profits. They are also attempting to close the door on further pushes for more teams. As you may have seen people already brought up Haas and that is what they don't want, precedence to add more teams. So from a PR perspective how may you leverage that?
The main things to consider are as follows:
American audiences are viewed as desirable as a profitable group to sell F1 to
The prices and nature of access that American audiences associate with motorsports that they are already familiar with is far cheaper than F1
American audiences would likely invest more with a team that is not just American owned or driven, but feels culturally American
So you as a team see that there is money to be made, in an audience that does not need to be convinced that motorsports can be interesting, but these audiences are not satisfied by your arguments that they should be open to such high price points, their local taxpayers footing the bill to host F1 races, and an audience of non American fans that hold contempt (for both valid and invalid reasons) for anything that they consider "too American".
So, either you let a team, especially an American one like Andretti in, you tell American fans that you have someone truly American for them to root for. You know Andretti already, and now you can support him in the exclusive big leagues. It is more expensive than you are used to, but its a global stage, an exclusive one, imagine being able to support your team every weekend.
To you and me, that is a sweet deal, especially since the bid includes General Motors and the F1 factory being US based. And its so likely that the profits really go into overdrive as a result, and so the other teams don't lose a piece of the pie as the pie gets bigger. If you are familiar with american fan culture with teams then you already know this, but the sports merchandise industry is worth billions, its not loose change, if American fans invest in the sport the numbers are sky high.
But then again, a more Americanized F1 also means other exorbitant prices are pushed to come down, and they don't want fans, American or otherwise to expect to participate in the fandom of the sport, they want fans to pay the high price tag and not challenge it. These record profit and viewership years with a noted larger American audience involved them paying up, but as the entirety of motorsports experiences something of a renaissance, fans are less enthused about the price tag, and every continent (yes, every single continent) has other more viable motorsports options for fans.
Yes its not necessarily the same kind of glamor and prestige as F1, but a lot of what people love in one motorsports, can be found in another. And, with lockdowns gone in most places, audiences are not at home likely spending more, and so to them what went up, must come down. So what do F1 and F1 teams do instead? Try to spin PR in a way that persuades audiences that there is something remarkable that they are paying for.
Andretti brings more profit yes, but he also brings people who do not necessarily view F1 as this novel thing in the way that fans who came in 2020-2021 do. As a result, you may get them to pay a little more, but not thousands more, especially for what (based on the last COTA and Miami race fan experiences depict on social media) seems to them to be a mediocre at best fan experience. So now what you are seeing is an attempt to leverage PR to say that fans ARE paying for something, exclusivity and the best of the best. And its not just about convincing American fans either.
How often are European fans told that they are paying for the exclusivity, history and prestige of F1? How often do European fans speak of being priced out of F1? Sometimes this is attributed to the pursuit of American audiences by fans but thats a clever PR slight of hand which moves discussion away from why F1 is several times more expensive for fans than whatever their local motorsport competitions are, and instead tells them that they need to protect F1 and its exclusivity as fans from the sinister forces that will Americanize the sport, despite the fact that Americans are also priced out, and in the case of Las Vegas, have been negatively impacted by the presence of F1. Lets circle back to Andretti.
There are two things about Andretti that makes the attempt to leverage PR seem strange. Manufactures backing, and a motorsports experience. Incidentally, motorsport experience is part of how Haas found itself in the sport, but the manufacturing backer is a big one. Now there is a lot of money to be made if he gets in, potentially record profits, but how willing will people be to pay how much they have since at least 2022?
From a financial perspective, the prices were always going to need to come down and F1, Liberty Media and Teams should have prepared for that, alas, corporations tend to hope for exponential growth and now what we as audiences view as the logical move is like pulling teeth and there is talk of how high the dilution fee should be to compensate teams for loss in revenue. And that is where, from a PR perspective, I presume this is all coming from.
Teams kick about, talk of an 11th team as a sort of manifestation of this hidden threat to the sport, fans want proof that Andretti isn't going to ruin and Americanize the sport and apply more pressure on the sport to make sure F1 protects its roots, dilution fee is negotiated very high as a result and when its announced, fans debate if its too much or too little, Andretti pays up and expresses that he is happy to and tells the American audiences that want to support his team how it was so worth it to pay x money because F1 is worthy of it, fans that want to support Andretti/a culturally American team begrudgingly take his word for it and pay up for merch or GP tickets or whatever, European fans are assured that the sport will not be dictated by Americans and continue to support it, and then the exponential growth continues.
Of course the locals especially in places where the race track is not far from their homes, where they work etc, still are not happy, and for obvious reasons, residents tend to dislike it when taxpayers foot the bill for sporting events, safety issues and more, but based on the reporting around building the Las Vegas GP, and also what has occurred in the various places F1 has raced in over the years and even historically, how F1 impacts locals does not seem to be a priority in stakeholder analysis, but rather is an afterthought.
So yeah, as usual with F1 its really about the money, and what they think will maximize it. So they will keep up this PR song and dance about exclusivity and luxury as necessity, media will keep contextualizing how exclusive it is, everyone will mention how much Andretti and other interested people paid to go ober their bids because its so exclusive, and then Andretti with General Motors and Cadillac will pay up, parrot these same ideas about being in the most exclusive sport ever, and maybe even do interviews.
Then teams will either welcome them publicly for meeting the stringent standards of the sport and emphasizing how necessary the whole thing was, or ignore the entry to reinforce that they were only logically concerned, media will put out pieces about who Andretti is and maybe even F1 primers for new fans, American broadcasters will be talking about the new American team in the most exclusive sport whilst European broadcasters talk about how if the sport was going to have another team and how now American audiences can enjoy a team in the most exclusive sport, and then similiarly to Haas, people will for the most part stop debating. That is of course until someone says something, or a team leaves, or people or corporations want to come in.
On the flipside, if Andretti doesn't get in, teams will be like "we said that this is an expensive exclusive sport and not everyone can join", Audiences won't like that for the most part, because to most Andretti makes sense for F1 regardless of if you want Andretti specifically or not, and probably won't buy it, especially since audiences are already not very moved either way by Stefano Domenicalli speaking about F1, but it may very well alienate large portions of American (and also Non European in general) audiences especially if they like other motorports.
Already because of the nature of fandom in F1, other motorsports fans don't have a great impression of being engaged in the free ways like social media, so if you want them to now be paying fans be it for a cable package or merch or GP tickets, having a new team that is neither European own nor European funded is one of very few means to persuade people to want to participate in the fanfare of F1 regardless.
And for European fans it will be difficult to tell them that rejecting the Andretti bid is not strange, because for the most part, he doesn't have the PR image of someone who would rock the boat too much in F1, and the fact that his teams do well in other motorsports also creates interest as it is not a given that he will be a back marker.
But ultimately, regardless of what happens from here on out, most teams are publicly against it because of money, and they are hoping that the PR built up so far can be leveraged to defend how the money is made, and also ensures that should they negotiate with Andretti re dilution fee, it will not look good if he or the manufacturers he is teaming with publicly state that they think its too high. You will also probably have noted that drivers don't tend to strongly oppose a new team and tend to be in favor of a new team, or indifferent and that adds another dimension to the song and dance but once again, another essay, for another day.
Thanks for the ask, sorry its so long haha.
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champagnepodiums · 1 year
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i agree with you but I actually think they saw that less « exclusive » fans were great for the sport with DTS. And for them it also means more money, from tv rights to races attendance and thus what a track is willing to pay, sponsors are also way less exclusive than they used to. So I hope some failures when they try to go too exclusive will do good for normal fans.
I think also what’s missing in the US races are the feader series. it’s also the case in some other countries where it gets too expensive for them to go. But they should try and go to the us more I think. Because that could entertain people much more before a race than just a random concert. And also F1 need to help promote the sport as a whole.It will only help them in the long run . Make week ends more interesting, having support for junior series means more people also having the opportunity to race ba use money will get there.
We always had the same issue with f1 (the brand) for so long. I really hope they don’t waste what DTS brought to the sport. Because si think there were many good things (especially with diversity and opening up more)
I think F1 realized that by giving up some of the secrecy of the paddock, they could hook people and convince them that spending tons of money on tickets and merch etc were worthwhile, I don't think they've seen the value in fans/people that aren't wealthy white men beyond the money that they can spend. Like I think Miami is a really good example of the fact that they have absolutely no interest to cater to the fans buying general admission and why should they when they're still selling 270,000 tickets?
I agree about the feeder series though. I wish that the F1 calendar schedules made more sense and made it able for the feeder series to accompany F1 more often.
I also do worry F1 is wasting all of the goodwill and attention that DTS brought them. But I'm also really sort of resigned to it, they made their beds.
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backwardscaplando · 1 year
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why is f1 merch so expensive like I don’t want to sacrifice my left kidney and three of my fingers to buy a pretty green jumper
but I will if it comes in my size don’t you worry
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norrisleclercf1 · 3 months
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Hey hey! Have you seen Danny Ric new Enchanté collection? I may have paid an obscene amount for the date night t-shirt 😭 but I couldn’t resist (even if the only size available was large) like why is driver merch so expensive?!
(Also hope I’m not bothering you I have no one to talk about F1 with 😂) 🩷
I've never looked at Daniel's merch, I've seen it and the prices are sky high. But, the only merch I've bought is either, fan made, quadrant, or McLaren's merch. They're not super expensive unless you were getting their special merch like their nice jackets are something.
And you're not bothering me darling about talking to F1 with me. I'm an F1 blog, I live and write to talk about F1. Feel free to talk to me about whatever.
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Legit question....
WHY is F1 merch (irrespective of driver or team) so fucking expensive? I bought a DR Enchanté t-shirt last year and with postage it cost me $80AUD! Williams want £50 for a pair of Miami GP shorts, McLaren want $200 for a team kit puffer jacket and SEVENTY FIVE DOLLARS for a fucking baseball cap! No one can convince me any of those products are worth that much! Those ridiculous prices procludes people on low or limited incomes from buying anything, you have to be a fucking millionaire to afford a jumper/shirt/psnts/hat combo!
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mistressemmedi · 2 years
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ticket prices are literally a joke already
my mom and i went to spa last year bc it's the only affordable place for us,,,
she spent the 350€ each for a ticket and we haven't gotten anything back for that complete failure
the thing is, that we could've bought cheaper tickets but those were bronze ones, yk, when there's not even a grandstand, just a patch of grass,,, and both my mom and i have backproblems so that was out of the question.
if they cancel spa and/or make it more expensive, people like us won't ever have the chance to watch f1 live,, god i hate this sport sometimes
I understand that the price of the tickets is mainly dictated by the promoter handling the venue but this is just not sustainable in the long run.
Liberty Media/F1 want more fan involvement but who can afford it at this rate 💀 don't even get me started on the cost of team merch 🔪
(I got back issues as well, that's why I go for grandstand tickets 😂 I'm also extra and show up with those inflatable pregnancy donuts because them seats are super uncomfortable lmao)
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still-we-rise · 3 years
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Why is F1 merch so expensive ? I want the Mercedes or the Mclaren Hawaii shirt but 70€ and shipping? I thought football merch is expensive, well I might have to settle for the bucket hat
Welcome to the Hawaiian Shirt Hoes Club! I'm a proud owner of the Mercedes one, 10/10 (it was a birthday present don't you think I could normally afford this shit)
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Plain speaking, they charge so much because we are willing to pay for it. But also, F1 is just a ridiculously expensive sport, in every single way, so it's not surprising merch prices are crazy. I don't know the inside of F1, but I'm gonna assume the profit from their merch can be used to maintain the team, which is also so fucking expensive it's insane. So yeah, they just need more muneh
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celestinovietti · 2 years
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Why is f1 merch so expensive???? Like and they take a couple of quid off stuff for black Friday
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lavita-francaise · 3 years
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Every year I wonder why f1 teams merch are so expensive. I need to crowdfund just for a cap
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nnato · 4 years
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Why is f1 merch so expensive
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champagnepodiums · 2 years
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I don’t want to sound pessimistic but I think teams and drivers will continue to release merch that are like $50-$200 dollars at the least. Apart from shirts and caps, things like mini helmets and drivers cards are expensive especially if you live outside of America and Europe. It’s sad, but I’ve accepted that at the end of the day, F1 and the teams are ultimately there to make money because it is a business and they will continue to price things the way they do as long as there are people who are willing to spend.
However, I do think it’s upsetting and a big shame that F1 is making so much money while other motorsports series like W Series are struggling with financial issues. You would think that the boom of F1 in recent years would allow other racing series to thrive but sadly that isn’t the case
I agree-- especially when the super expensive merch still sells out, they have no reason to change. And like, you're right, it's basic business 101 to price according to demand but yeah.
To be honest, I wonder if F1's marketing of "pinnacle of motorsports" is one of the reason's why other racing series aren't thriving like F1. The impression I've gotten is that essentially, nothing past F1 is "worth watching"
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drivindrivin · 4 years
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Why is the mercy always so expensive?😂😂 Dont they know how much I want it? 😂😂💖💖
Because F1 is elitist? lol
But it’s probably because they make merch on a smaller scale, but at that price point I cannot justify spending that amount of money. It’s just too much and then shipping overseas!
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lundgaard · 5 years
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why is f1 merch so expensive its like i'm already paying you millions just to watch cars whiz past me from a distance but nooo i also must rob a bank and sacrifice one of my kidneys and the least favorite limb if i wanna rep my favorite driver what kind of bullshit honestly
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