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peetapiepita · 5 months
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In the end, he became who he hated the most, an old man beefing with a teenager without the teenager even knowing the reason.
And it's really just beef carried on from the previous generation. The teenager didn't even exist when the reason happened.
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Incorrect Quotes<3
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tbosasincorrect · 5 months
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tbosas text post memes
Part ll
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paper-bag-boy · 5 months
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having serious tbosas brainrot so here's a list of things that were in the books that i wish the movie showed: (spoilers below)
how far tigris was willing to go to protect coriolanus. in the books it implied she was willing to sell her body to keep him fed (also i cant even begin to imagine her reaction to seeing Snow selling desirable victors to captiol citizens when she herself as a child wanted to resort to prostitution to put food on the table FOR HIM.)
how insane dr gaul was in the books. iirc she didnt warn clemensia about the snakes and lied that they were harmless
clemensia being gone for weeks and her parents not questioning it bc gaul said it was a flu + clemensia COMING BACK all covered in scars/scales and no one questioning what happened to her (seriously the grip gaul had within the capital was INSANE)
how awful highbottom and gaul were in the books. i absolutely loathed them when i read tbosas whereas they weren't as bad in the movies (though that might be bc i love viola davis and peter dinklage)
how much coriolanus' mother meant to him (they talked about it a bit in the movie but i wish they showed him smelling her compact when he was upset/stressed)
the extent of how coriolanus manipulated both his classmates AND sejanus' parents
also how sejanus' ma always made sure coriolanus was fed when he went over to the plinth's home and how she sent them sweets and pastries when they were sent to 12
sejanus asking coriolanus to switch tributes with him because he thought coriolanus would be able to get through to marcus/better his odds
coriolanus suggesting they use the mockingjays as target practice
in the books sejanus always calls coriolanus by his given name "coriolanus" and he only calls him coryo after his stint in the arena (to which coryo wanted to strangle him for trying the family nickname at that moment)
(edited for the last three bullet points)
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its-tea-time-darling · 5 months
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➳ THE HUNGER GAMES: THE BALLAD OF SONGBIRDS & SNAKES (2023)
Mysteries have a way of driving people mad.
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therottendrawflies · 5 months
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The fact that no one has said this yet is shocking to me becuase it’s so rare that I come up with an original thought but it is seriously not talked about enough.
In The Ballad Of Songbirds and Snakes Lucy Gray is a songbird who’s “weapon” is a snake which she killed no one with except in the games, and she respects them greatly and Coriolanus is a snake who’s weapon who he used to kill one of the only people who loved him is a song bird and he wanted every last one of them dead including Lucy Gray.
Like why have I seen nobody make this connection yet like hello😭
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I feel a bit silly writing this because I’m sure other people must have but I’ve not seen anything about it
(SPOILERS - I’ll also tag)
I really love how we see Coriolanus’s character descent into who he becomes through each of his kills
His first kill is Bobbin. It was self-defence, kill-or-be-killed. If he hadn’t done it, he probably would have been killed himself, but this sticks with him. Coriolanus is horrified when he realises he took someone’s life. He thinks about it for a long time.
His next kill is Mayfair Lipp, the mayor’s daughter. It’s not self-defence, but he sees it that way. In a way, he’s got a point. She would have reported him, and he would have been hanged. So would Lucy Gray, so he shot her. This time, however, he had a choice. Maybe not much choice, but it was there. He chose to shoot her, but it doesn’t affect him anywhere near as much as Bobbin’s death
The third is the hardest. He doesn’t pull the trigger or tie the noose, but he might as well have. He betrays Sejanus. Sejanus who loves him like a brother. Sejanus who he has known since they were children. He made the decision in a moment and he questions himself afterwards, but he still made that choice. He reasons to himself internally that it was necessary and Sejanus was bound to get himself in trouble, anyway, right? Right? So it’s okay. But it’s not okay. The blood is on his hands and he keeps thinking of the moments they spent together before the betrayal. He benefits from his death and is rewarded for his loyalty. How ironic
Next is Lucy Gray. Possibly. For argument’s sake, let’s say he did kill her. He calls out for her, his gun slung over his shoulder. He realises how she might be scared, the gun sending the wrong message… but he doesn’t put it back. He brings it with him, not to use it, he tells himself. He would never use it, definitely not. He just… wants to talk some sense into her. As soon as the snake bites him, he abandons all pretence. Even though he admitted moments ago he understood why she would be scared, now she’s the enemy. Now she has to pay. How dare she. Not even an hour ago, he had plans to run away with her. He claimed he loved her. They were going to be together. Now, he’s chasing her through the trees with a gun in his hands and he’s screaming for her to show herself. He shoots a lot. When he thinks he finally got her, he’s pleased. It was her own fault, he tells himself, for the snake trick. Even afterwards, when he finds out that the snake wasn’t venomous - which Lucy Gray definitely would have known and therefore was only intended to slow him down - he doesn’t have a single moment of regret. The only thing he regrets is falling for her in the first place and he swears he’ll never do it again. His heart is stone. Frozen like snow.
Finally, his last kill (before the ones that take place once this book ends) is Dean Highbottom. This is the first kill that is not made in a split-second. This is premeditated. He carefully adds just enough rat poison to the morphling, sure to wear gloves, and sets his plan in motion. He has every opportunity to change his mind, to not resort to violent means. Not only does he not regret it, he feels proud. Excited, even. He hopes Dean Highbottom will know it was him that killed him
By the epilogue, Snow has gotten over (or buried deep enough) what guilt he had over Sejanus enough to use the Plinths’ grief to his advantage without any conflicting feelings. He’s convinced himself Lucy Gray was the villain who played him, when she was just a sixteen-year-old girl who was forced into a terrible situation. As we know, he goes on to directly and indirectly kill thousands between TBOSAS and THG, too many. I doubt he remembers most of them, just nameless, faceless children. He doesn’t care anymore, not like he did the first time
The whole world is his Arena. Snow lands on top until it melts
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kvtnisseverdeen · 4 months
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captainremmington-13 · 2 months
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A Lady Made of Snow Masterlist
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𝐏𝐚𝐫𝐭 𝐈 - 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐑𝐢𝐯𝐚𝐥𝐬
Prologue
All The Rumors are True (or are they?) (one-shot)
A Night on the Town (one-shot)
New Year, Same Problems (one-shot)
Chapter 1: The Reaping
Chapter 2: First Blood
Chapter 3: Dropping Like Flies
Chapter 4: Death and Destruction
Chapter 5: Let the Games Begin
Chapter 6: The Victor’s Defeat
𝐏𝐚𝐫𝐭 𝐈𝐈 - 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐄𝐧𝐝
Chapter 7: Reincarnation
Chapter 8: Chills
Chapter 9: The Calm Before the Snowstorm
Chapter 10: The Rise of a King
Chapter 11: The Fall of a Queen
𝐏𝐚𝐫𝐭 𝐈𝐈𝐈 - 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐁𝐞𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠
Chapter 12: Out With the Old
Chapter 13: In With The New
Chapter 14: Erasure
Chapter 15: Blossoming “Love”
Chapter 16: Unraveling
Chapter 17: Power Struggle
Chapter 18: The Chase
Chapter 19: Fixed
𝐏𝐚𝐫𝐭 𝐈𝐕 - 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐥𝐢𝐦𝐛
Chapter 20: Bound
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chipster-321 · 5 months
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Something I loved about Peter Dinklage’s portrayal of Dean Casca’s Highbottom in “A Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes” was that the whole time up until the reveal I was questioning WHY Highbottom was acting the way he was and whether or not he actually wanted the games to continue or not. I just couldn’t get a read on him one way or another. I couldn’t manage to hate him, but his behavior towards Snow definitely rubbed me the wrong way. But he wasn’t outright doing anything against the rules minus doing his best to not give Snow the Plinth prize even if he won. Something I did not understand until later.
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One moment he seemed to want to sabotage any chances of the games becoming more successful and continuing. Like he begrudgingly accepted this “Mentorship” idea thinking none of the students would be able to effectively do so, knowing that the Tributes would never be willing to play nice with their mentors and not willing to help them in anyway. Then not moving to save his games with any new and fresh ideas from the most brilliant and smartest student in the class. But then he was clearly doing drugs so it could just be dismissed as the drugs numbing his emotions and drive. Making it so he just couldn’t give a damn to do anything. And sometimes it appeared he did the games to keep going and improve simply by being the credited creator of the games and not caring about the tributes at all.
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Once Coriolanus’s ideas began to succeed and raise interest in the games he became more and more hostile towards him and trying to get him removed and disqualified at every possible chance. He was even obviously gleeful when he did manage to oust him by catching him cheating, the doctor couldn’t save him that time. At that point I was reaching the conclusion he really didn’t care one way or another but just hated Snow for some reason.
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And then the reveal. He never WANTED the games to exist. He didn’t mean for them to ever happen, it was just angry drunken rambling during the war that had caused so much suffering and death. Only for his “friend” to take that idea that should have never been taken seriously and considered and bring it into fruition, slapping his name on it and cementing his legacy as the creator of the bloody and cruel Hunger Games. He DID want them to fail and end. And Peter Dinklage’s performance absolutely screamed that the whole time while still remaining ambiguous solely because of the character’s reputation as the creator and his blatant bias against Snow (despite the fact we knew who Snow would become).
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He hated Snow because of his father, yes, but his blatant hostility and attempts to sabotage him only really started becoming more than an obvious distaste due to his heritage when Snow started to succeed in reviving the games. He knew he could do it, he saw the route he was choosing, so he tried to stop him.
What a shame he failed.
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thorinsbeard · 5 months
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The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes
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catindabag · 5 months
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TBOSAS CRACK! TAKE: ✨SOFT CORYO SNOW✨
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One of my really drunk TBOSAS buddies just randomly texted me (again) last night to jokingly imagine Coriolanus Snow having the exact same personality as his cousin Tigris.
Well, in theory, let’s just say that our poor sensitive cabbage boy would be so genuinely sad, soft, and sympathetic towards the Tributes that rich boy Sejanus Plinth might just marry Snow right there and then. Heck! Everyone in this crack!AU is secretly in love with soft!Coryo. And Felix, Festus, Sejanus, Hilarius, and Clemmie are secretly fighting each other for the cabbage boy’s hand in marriage.
Even Dean Highbottom miraculously became sober because of soft!Coryo’s ✨kindness✨ and sympathetic ass.😅
And the Hunger Games were ultimately cancelled forever by President Ravinstill because Dr. Gaul suddenly died from aneurysm when she saw soft!Coryo making out with Sejanus Plinth inside the Arena while all of Panem were forced to watch the latest ✨Capitol Drama✨ unfold from their seats.😂
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TBOSAS x Text Posts 🤍
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laniidae-passerine · 5 months
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I made my post about Dean Highbottom and then as I was writing my tags realised that his Hunger Games counterpart is Haymitch. and now my head is in my hands and I don’t think I’ll ever recover
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thesweetnessofspring · 7 months
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The similarities between Casca Highbottom and Haymitch Abernathy.
Both use substances to dull their pain.
Both reluctantly put in charge of young people to mentor.
Both prickly and unlikeable to most people.
But both showing sympathy to kids who get stuck in the rotten system of the Games in the gruff way that they can.
In the question, then, if anything could have been a turning point for Coriolanus--could Dean Highbottom have been the answer, the missing piece? Raised by Grandma'am and Tigris, infatuated by Lucy Gray, with memories of his soft mother, he had strong feminine support. What he seems to be missing, in part, is a masculine figure for him to identify with. Coriolanus's father was cold and cruel and power-hungry, Strabo too similar to Coriolanus's own father, and Sejanus was too District for Coriolanus to take seriously. Pluribus is the only other male connection he has, and that's limited. Could Dean Highbottom have been the difference, if he had tried to steer Coriolanus away from becoming like his father instead of sentencing him to the same fate and tried to ruin him? Dr. Gaul was the one who won out, but she was the only one trying to mentor Snow. Dean Highbottom bowed out because he had written Coriolanus off as being the same as his father, which resulted in a self-fulfilling prophecy. And more than that, a student who wanted to stand up to the games, Sejanus, was passed over by Dean Highbottom who wanted the games to end as well.
Despite Haymitch's defeatist attitude in the beginning, he did rebel and he did fight for Katniss and Peeta. Dean Highbottom's only fight was with a teenage boy, making him fight back and turn to the person who supported him, Dr. Gaul.
Maybe it was Casca Highbottom and Haymitch Abernathy who had the power to make a difference.
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incorrect-tbosas · 7 months
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dean highbottom, pointing at coriolanus: that child is morally grey at best
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