i am thinking merc sign carlos for a 1+1 so that they can continue their max pursuit until 2026 and if not just put kimi next to george after that

but how hilarious it would be for carlos to have to agree to a 1+1 at merc which he rejected at ferrari lmaoo

seated for the lecfosi george unleashing psychological warfare on carlos

I agree that 1+1 is likely what Merc is pushing for, because at the end of the day they want a George/Kimi line up, but it's a tiny bit funny that at this point, it is Carlos' best option.

But I'm not too quick to resign Carlos to Merc/Sauber just yet. I think there's some more madness buried in this silly season. Personally, I'm watching McLaren VERY closely, even though Lando and Oscar both have contracts, McLaren is not performing at the level everyone expected them to, and it's no secret that both of the McLaren drivers are absolutely desperate for a win. I could see Red Bull potentially trying to buy out one of them before they re-commit to Checo, especially because both McLaren drivers are young and Red Bull currently have a real 'succession' problem in that they don't have any clear young talent waiting in the wings like Ferrari have Ollie Bearman and Merc have Kimi Antonelli. Arvid Lindblad has been making waves, but he's still down in F3, and Max is threatening retirement every second interview. Red Bull need to find their next championship contender and quickly, and I'm not sure they're done trying to pinch Oscar or Lando.

Whether Oscar or Lando will go is another question. I think Oscar is more likely to move than Lando for reasons including: his contract will be cheaper to buy out, he has less of an emotional tie to McLaren, Mark Webber (although this could also be a point against). However, seeing Lando in interviews recently does make me wonder whether he's regretting signing that contract extension, especially since Ferrari have managed to make significant strides towards Red Bull but McLaren have slipped backwards.

If Red Bull do pinch a McLaren driver, I think Carlos is a shoe-in for that seat. Especially if it's Oscar who moves to Red Bull, I think that all parties involved would jump at the opportunity to reunite the most PR-friendly teammate pairing in recent memory.

I do have a nagging suspicion that Carlos is not just ending up at Sauber/Audi, I think there might be a lot more going on BTS than we're privy to, and Lewis showed us that not even drivers with contracts can be discounted. Either way, I'm seated with popcorn.

1 13 25 make enemies queen

thank u so much for the opportunity

the character everyone gets wrong

The more interesting less hatery take on this is part of a convo I actually had with a mutual today about charles re: characterization and the anglicization of non-native speakers' personalities which i'm gonna put a lot of here. The current popular characterization of charles (for lack of nuance i'm talking about current 'babygirled' charles vs the older 'femme fatale' characterization) is so heavily based in who he is when he speaks English.

I've said before one of the reasons I find it hard to pin down the piarles dynamic™️ outside of the one “they're childhood best friends and therefore soulmates” narrative - which i find to be a bit of cop out on doing the work on how their personalities are actually compatible - is because Charles is often being slotted into a pretty heavily gendered role in his pairings. I think that comes from the babygirl characterization that comes from interpretations of a lot of the English media we see of him. I find he is flattened for the narrative more than anyone else is.

But when you watch French videos of him, and Italian but I can speak about that less because of my own knowledge of the language, a far more layered version of charles comes out that counteracts some of the manic pixie dream girl characterizations that he gets. Part of that is because the longer form french content we get of him is a) outside a racing context and b) around people he is comfortable with. The Monaco videos with his mom and the youtube video with Pierre are really good examples of Charles as he describes himself: confident, self-assured, easy-going, etc etc.

I wish people would take in more of that side of his personality, but a lot of it seems to come from the language barrier of the content, not even getting in to the language barrier for Charles himself.

13. worst blorbofication

I will be honest to say that my interest in Lando has fallen off a fair bit in the last year or so. And part of that is because I think he no longer fulfills a role that I find particularly intriguing, and partly because I think he has moved further away from the Carlando characterization than the fanon has really caught up to yet. Part of that I think is because somewhere in the Carlando -> Dando transition, Lando was fully lost along the way lol. I have no idea who the Lando any side of the warring factions is referring to but it certainly isn't the one I see nowadays. Maybe that's also because no one on my dash on any side is willing to engage with the Lando and Max of it all which, listen, me neither. rock and a hard place and lando is somewhere deep in the crevice!

Also the Lando apologists think he's being a cunt (affectionate) when sometimes he is just being a cunt (derogatory) and it annoys me.

25. I will save this for the other ask I got for 25! Edit: Actually no I lied. I mentioned this the other day sort of and I *get* where the frustration comes, but I hate when writers pretend like they have no expectations for their readers re: comments or interactions with their fics, while simultaneously complaining about types/frequencies of interactions with fics. I think the ecosystem would work better if we stop pretending that there isn't a certain degree of transactionary nature in fic publishing and start those types of conversations from a place of more honest interaction with both ego and consumerism. I recognized it isn't a balanced issue, especially because reader entitlement seems to have gotten out of control recently. But you don't change anything with the way both sides currently engage critically with how they or the other party interact within the ecosystem. This is a difficult take to explain without a 4000 word essay but yeah.

Anyway I don’t even like talking about charlos in a derogatory manner lets talk about carlando instead

clover (they/them) & this is my f1 (main blog). my svt/kpop sideblog

ENG/中. fan of things. like the car vroom (derogatory). and music. and svt

ship | f1 : carlando, yukierre, loscar (logan and oscar), galex, maxiel [being dragged away BROCEDES] etc. i can be convinced!

support | f1 : carlos, lewis, yuki, lando, charles 🫂

B:  What was the first fandom you read fic in?  Which was the first you wrote fic for?

J:  What’s your favorite fanfic trope?  Have you written it?

M: What’s the weirdest AU scenario you’ve ever come up with?  Did it turn into a story?

B:  What was the first fandom you read fic in?  Which was the first you wrote fic for?

the first fandom i read fic in was unfortunately hp (derogatory). we do not speak of it now.

the first fandom i wrote for was actually f1! no other fandom has managed to break through the wall in my brain that keeps me from writing, until i contracted french people disease

M: What’s the weirdest AU scenario you’ve ever come up with?  Did it turn into a story?

its not too terribly wild but i have an Ambiguously Historical carlando selkie au planned that i want to write someday

need the teams' socmed teams to pump the brakes!!! some of the inter-team stuff already gives me hives bc i feel like there's too much containment breach but there's at least plausible deniability bc they're on the same team but the recent lestappen posts... it's giving carlando (derogatory)

I think we should start shipping the real people on the socmed teams. This would 1 give them a taste of their own medicine 2 teach them the dangers of playing with fire 3 take the attention off Charles and max and 4 it might inspire them into action because I do actually think the media interns are trying to fuck. They’re projecting their own sexual frustration on their coworkers and the poor yeti cooler. We’d be doing a public good

I’m none of your previous anons but they seem to be stirring up something and I thought I’d come to help. First anon was talking about a new A/B/O carlando story on ao3 (thanks btw anon, just read it and like it a lot). Used ABO to describe the story which is a slur towards aborigines in Australia. Anon was cealrly only talking about the story, describing it. Second anon went way above and beyond with the “it’s a slur” because no, the same letters in a different meaning are a slur, not the way they were used in your inbox. So it’s all just a misunderstanding splashed with some misdirection cause no one was being derogatory and the meaning was clearly visible to those who read it and didn’t have the intention to misunderstand. Hopefully the messages will stop now.

Well, finally someone who knows how to speak and talk clear!! Thanks for that!! And thanks for explaining and I'm sure the first anon really didn't do it on purpose, probably didn't even know what it meant without the / , just like me.

hi i came here from thearchercore where they said that you think there seem to be friendship cliques forming around the paddock as of late like carlando vs. lestappen. i've seen these divides between fans but what makes you think there's also that divide between drivers?

I wouldn't call them friendship cliques. More....workplace alliances regarding the way F1 is going and the way F1 should go.

(Full disclaimer. This is a theory of grid dynamics that's been brewing for a little while in my head and I've only really bounced it off people in dms so far, so feel free to critique or refine it.)

Now, why would these two camps clash? Apart from interpersonal reasons (power struggles at any of the teams for example, I think any of the drivers listed racing or PR would resent being labelled as the team's n2 driver), F1 itself as a sport is at a crossroads. We're seeing the obvious effect of DTS in popularising the sport and making these athletes world-famous. In the past, only the world champions really became world-renowned. Now, most drivers are massive social media stars, or even proper A-list celebrities in their own right (Daniel at the Met Gala, for example). This one one hand is brilliant for the sport, because it brings more attention and eyes, and F1 becomes far more popular than it ever has been in the past. Liberty media especially is fond of this, as it brings in more profit for them.

However, in a lot of ways quintessential aspects of racing are lost via appealing to the masses. We see this in the removal of traditional purpose-built tracks in the calendar to make way for street races, in team line ups prioritising the PR-friendliness of a driver much more than before. The question of can the individual personalities of these drivers be sold is now a much bigger factor when considering a line up now than it was even ten years ago.

Since the question of racing vs. PR is raging in F1 in general right now, I think there's natural battle lines being drawn up in the paddock at the moment, that seem to fall along drivers which prioritise racing results over PR, and drivers that rely on PR/sponsors to boost their image without the racing results to necessarily back it up. Let's call them the racing clique vs. the PR clique for simplification.

Furthermore, I think these battlelines are drawn between teammates more often than not. So for example, I'd say Oscar tends to fall into the racing clique, Lando the PR clique (because let's be frank, his level of hype in British media especially WITHOUT a grand prix win is a little ridiculous). Likewise, if we consider our once and future RBR teammate pair, Max is the racing, Daniel the PR.

Ferrari is a little trickier because Charles is a PR mastermind and plays the PR game well in order to manipulate public perception about him. However, I will say that above all Charles has a fair estimation of his own abilities, an incredible racing IQ, and a sharp hunger to win that shines through despite the scrupulous Ferrari PR training (lest we forget the origin of the Il Predestinato name). For this reason, I think I place him in the racing camp. Considering the way that the Sainz camp uses leaks, well-timed sympathy posts, and Carlando to boost the public perception of Carlos's racing ability, I would place Carlos in the PR camp.

There are also other natural flash tensions between these people, but from Lando and Daniel distancing themselves from Max post his Vegas derogatory comments (@tsarinablogs has written some good thinkpieces on this), to the Ferrari civil war (as currently being chronicled by @thearchercore, along with some pretty good evidence as to McLaren trying to copy Ferrari's contract renewal hype, which further puts Lando and Charles into conflict). I don't think the happy go lucky Landoscar dynamic will survive McLaren being a competitive car, especially if Oscar wins a grand prix before Oscar.

There are faultlines and flashpoints forming in the paddock, and I think that especially with the incoming silly season, this question of PR vs. racing when picking drivers will be thrown into haut relief and that'll serve to only heighten the natural and/or pre-existing tensions between these two different groups of people.

I think people just need to remember you CURATE your own experience on Tumblr. If you see a post you don't like? You can easily unfollow or block the user. You don't HAVE to interact to defend the driver(s) you support.

In my experience as both a Lando and a Carlos fan, interacting with ACTUAL hate posts won't change their minds on a driver they don't like anyway. If anything, it just makes them double down because "See! Even their fans are whiney / childish / complain too much!" It's like politics; you can argue and provide evidence of your points all you want but once someone has their minds made up, they generally aren't going to budge no matter how good of a case you present.

And if things you see on social media about the driver(s) you support is impacting your mental health? Don't check the tags; stick to only interacting with those you follow and hopefully trust not to post hateful or derogatory content. If that doesn't work, take a short break, I promise Tumblr isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

I support both Lando and Carlos. I KNOW both Lando and Carlos get tons of hate. I know it can be impossible to avoid sometimes. But I choose how I respond, just like you all are responsible for your own decisions. Above all, be respectful, and if the post is angering you to the point you can't maintain respect, best to block. Rant to a like-minded F1 friend if you need to. Just don't stoop to their levels in your attempt to defend your favorite driver(s).

This is precisely my stance, thank you for articulating it so well. I think some people certainly have an obligation to tag posts as anti if they are truly anti, or have an internal tagging system that ppl can use (💀 I stopped tagging things as Carlos bc I’d get so many assholes in my asks, and anyway if you follow me it’s BECAUSE of carlando—or the sewis girlies who stick it out even if it gets droughty here 😭 sorry), but yes! This is a curated place! You don’t owe ppl a follow! Most of my interaction on tumblr is w people I don’t follow back, and I love the space we’ve created (again; endless thanks). PROTECT UR PEACE.

idk why anyone's accusing you of not liking lando bc that's clearly rubbish same w georgia but tbf there are some carlando stans who really don't like lando & constantly drag him not in an affectionate way, or think the worst of him without checking any facts then refuse to apologise when what they're dragging him for has been made up and/or taken out of context, or talk about how they can only tolerate him as he used to be when he was the shy, anxious kid he was back in 2019/20. and they insist on putting in all in his tag where lando fans have to see it.

(to be clear, i am not talking about georgia's post in that, idt she said anything out of order at all, i'm just trying to explain why some lando fans are feeling a bit defensive rn. yes people should check who they're talking about/to before saying something but if you frequently saw carlando stans not only dragging carlos in a passive-aggressive way but putting it somewhere you were forced to see it, can you really say you wouldn't end up getting defensive too?)

Yes sure totally and of course I can’t stand chirlies (derogatory) being unnecessarily shitty to Carlos I’ve made no secret of that, but I think people are also allowed to defend themselves when they’ve been unfairly maligned BECAUSE people have gotten so defensive that they’ve mischaracterized someone. All I’m saying is a little bit of good faith and humility when you’ve been told you jumped to conclusions would go a long way.

Things I won’t apologize for this season:

1) being a Charles hater (affectionate) (derogatory)

2) calling Them carlando’s besties