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sebastian vettel signs autographs with the help of a new friend, canada - june 6, 2013
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#sebastian vettel#f1#formula 1#canadian gp 2013#flashback fic ref#flashback fic ref 2013#canada#canada 2013#canada 2013 thursday
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"There he is: Sebastian Vettel, on top of his car, on top of the world. [...] Give the bull a little stroke!"
F1 SUMMER BREAK EDITING CHALLENGE
↪ favourite seasons: 2012 & 2013
for pauline @youjustwaitsunshine ☀️
#sebastian vettel#f1#f1edit#sebastianvetteledit#f1 summer break editing challenge#.mine#pauline u reminded me that i had half of this in my drafts#god the bull pats are truly the moments ever#pauline 🏷#indian gp 2012#korean gp 2012#singapore gp 2012#japanese gp 2012#canadian gp 2013#german gp 2013#abu dhabi gp 2013#korean gp 2013#belgian gp 2013#singapore gp 2013
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free them dude
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daily seb 273/365
#sebastian vettel#f1#dailyseb#canadian gp 2013#hot seb propaganda#red bull seb#i constantly thank god for fireproofs#somebody help him :(
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F1 Re-Watch 2013: Round 7 - Canada
oh man I have SUCH vivid memories of watching this race live at the time. This was back when my Mum and my Step-Dad were still just dating, and we alternated weekends of either staying at my Step-Dad’s or him and my Step-Brother staying with us (not really relevant, but anyway). Time differences being what they are, the Canada race start is early evening UK time, which is when most people would be sitting down for dinner.
And my Step-Dad, bless his heart, saw how excited I was to be watching F1 again after so many years, said it was fine for me to have my dinner in the living room so I could watch the race (I mean, the layout of his house meant that the kitchen and living room were right next to each other, but the sentiment still meant a lot 😭)
ANYWAY, this was Seb’s first win in Canada (a very sexy lights to flag win, we love to see it), and the race that I decided to start supporting Seb - not because he won, but bc I felt bad for him being booed on the podium. AND we get a Sewis podium. So I’m beyond excited to watch this one back!
“It’s one of two tracks on the current calendar he [Seb] hasn’t won at” KING SHIT
iirc the other track was Catalunya? I could be wrong
anyway starting grid:
Seb on pole 🥰
Lewis P2, a Sewis front row my beloved 💖
Bottas P3. In a Williams (it was a wet quali)
JEV P7!!!
Dan P11 and Jenson P14. pain.
Helmet watch: Seb has a v sexy charcoal/gunmetal grey helmet.
[Formation Lap]: All but 4 cars starting on the super softs
cut to Claire Williams bc it was Williams’ first P3 in yonks, bless
[Start/Lap 1]: Seb just shot off the start line, that’s my boy!!!!
Lewis holds P2, and Rosberg and Webber both jumped Bottas
[Lap 2]: looooads of shuffling about in the midfield 😵💫
Seb already has a 2.7 second lead dbvuuhdfbuhd
He really said you can fight me for this win at your peril
[Lap 3]: ...and Seb fastest lap 😅
oh man the replay of Bottas v Alonso 👌
[Lap 6]: And Jev takes P6 for Bottas
Sutil got tapped into a spin, and somehow no one drove into him 😳
[Lap 7]: and to make his afternoon worse Maldonado just lightly drove into his rear with a small amount of carbon fibre confetti
[Lap 8]: Seb watch: his gap to Lewis is now 4.4 seconds.
Man it is very weird to hear GP on Di Resta’s radio sdvhduvhdf
[Lap 10]: Worth adding that Lewis also has a 4+ second gap over Rosberg so he and Lewis are just in their own little races while everyone else fights over the rest of the points
Not the replay of Seb brushing against the concrete barriers, my blood pressure did not enjoy that
[Lap 11]: Jev in P6 and Dan in P8, now that’s MY Scuderia Toro Rosso
[Lap 13]: Jenson’s down in 12th 🥲
But Seb’s gap over Lewis is now 7.8 seconds. The duality of faves.
[Lap 15]: Rosberg pits from P3 and stays in front of Webber
“I want 3-4 laps at this pace.” “I’m pushing.” Bono and Lewis just doing Bono and Lewis things.
[Lap 16]: Seb pits for a set of mediums, as does Alonso
[Lap 18]: Rosberg’s brakes are apparently overheating, bc that’s what you want to hear in Canada of all tracks
Lewis still hasn’t pitted yet
Jenson into P10!!! But he’s yet to stop :(
[Lap 19]: and Lewis pits for the mediums, he comes out in P2.
“His [Lewis’] only problem is Sebastian Vettel” Just Seb and Lewis things: being a thorn in the other’s side (affectionate)
[Lap 21]: 10.9 second gap between Seb and Lewis. sheesh.
Seb really said I gotta go fast fast
[Lap 23]: Not related to anything happening on track, but the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve is very pretty, easily one of my favourites on the calendar
Plus, for me at least, it’s one of the tracks where I just really enjoy watching a car do a lap, it’s a really great circuit
[Lap 24]: The gap between P1 and P2 is now 13.5 seconds. Thirteen point five.
SEBASTIAN
He just set a 1:18.4
I mean I utterly adore him, but also holy shit
That’s my beloved menace to society 💖
[Lap 27]: Rosberg and Webber continue to scuffle over P3
But suddenly: Alonso
(jaws music plays in the background)
[Lap 28]: Pros of Seb shooting off into the distance: it’s sexy as hell. Cons: There are only fleeting glimpses of him on the TV feed 😭
but GOD I’d really missed him goating like this
[Lap 30]: The gap is 17 seconds, if anyone was wondering.
But Alonso has properly joined the battle for P3.
A Merc, a Red Bull and a Ferrari all competing for a podium place. Not to be a grandma on main but these really were the good old days.
[Lap 31]: and Webber finally passes Rosberg, and Alonso does the same into turn 1
[Lap 32]: Seb sighting!!!!
He is still going very, very fast 🏃♂️
[Lap 33]: A Webber fastest lap as he tries to catch Lewis
[Lap 35]: I fear I’m going to jinx it even though this is a ten year old race replay, but we still have all 22 cars in the race.
Jev still in P6 🥰
[Lap 36]: aaaand we’re passed half-distance
and van der Garde in not quite letting Webber properly past has given him some front wing damage 😬
unsurprisingly, he’s being investigated for ignoring blue flags
It means that Alonso has really closed up to the back of Webber as a result
[Lap 39]: But they’re both catching Lewis at a decent rate of knots
[Lap 42]: and Alonso gets past Webber into turn 1
and GOSH the prospect of a Seb, Lewis, Alonso podium. Very iconic.
[Lap 43]: another Seb sighting!!!
still going fast, keeping up the good work
dfvhfduvgsd he’s lapped everyone up to P7, this is such a peak Seb drive.
I do see why 16yo me decided ‘I want to support that one’ 😅
[Lap 45]: 8.4 second gap between Lewis and Alonso 👀
[Lap 46]: and another Seb fastest lap
he is currently collecting them like pokemon
“We are racing Jenson.” not more McLaren on McLaren violence I’m not sure if I can take it
[Lap 47]: van der Garde’s very bad, not good race: he is currently driving around with his front wing stuck under his car
(which tbf, is not safe practice, pull over dude)
ah he had an incident with Hulkenberg who has also DNFd
[Lap 49]: and Lewis pits for another set of mediums, he stays in P2
oh gosh the irony of him coming out in-between and lapping the two McLarens
And in comes Seb, also for mediums
and a replay of a very back lock up for Rosberg, I did think it was Lewis for a second because of the almost matching yellow helmets.
[Lap 51]: Hmm, the gap between Lewis and Alonso is now around 6 seconds
another Seb sighting, he went wide at turn 1. Keeping himself humble.
[Lap 53]: oh wild the Lewis v Alonso gap is now about 3 seconds.
[Lap 54]: No one tell Seb that Alonso just got the fastest lap I fear rage
[Lap 55]: Someone told Seb, he’s setting purple sectors.
[Lap 57]: And the Lewis v Alonso gap is 1.7 seconds...
“Please just let me drive man.” Lewis is apparently not very interested in rev counts and temperatures. Poor Bono.
[Lap 58]: and apparently Rocky asked Seb “are you listening?” when he told Seb not to chance the fastest lap. Rocky and Bono should have started a race engineer support group for stubborn drivers.
[Lap 59]: ...and Alonso has caught up to the back of Lewis
this will either be spicy or messy
please don’t be messy
[Lap 60]: I am slightly too nervous to type
[Lap 62]: Lewis still in P2 for now
oh good grief they went side by side into the hairpin
FELLAS
[Lap 63]: aaaand Alonso gets the pass done into turn 1
whew, they very nearly made contact down the main straight
that was stressful
fun, but stressful
[Lap 64]: Seb has a 19 second hap on Fernando, and Lewis has an 8 second gap over Webber, so I think the podium places are pretty safe to stay as is
Lewis is still trying to chase Fernando down though
🍿
[Lap 65]: oh they made contact again, Lewis lost a tiny bit of front wing
[Lap 66]: oh dear Gutierrez in the barriers at turn 1, he’s okay
[Lap 68]: tag yourself edition - Adrian Sutil has been: spun round, driven into, and given a drive through penalty, and he’s somehow still in P10.
[Lap 69]: And I think the grid has finally settled down.
[Lap 70]: FINAL LAP!!!
lol as I say the grid as settled Massa gets past Raikkonen for P8.
and another fastest lap for Webber.
and Seb has set a purple sector 1 🤣
[Finish]: AND SEB WINS!!!!!!
👏🎉🍾
Alonso P2, Lewis P3, Webber P4, Rosberg P5, JEV P6!!!!, Di Resta P7, Massa P8, Raikkonen P9 and Sutil P10.
Wow Seb had lapped everyone bar the top 5. KING SHIT. And turns out Austin was the one track Seb/Red Bull hadn’t won at at this point. But WHEW that was such a goat drive from Seb, he finished 15 seconds ahead of Alonso in the end.
And also the absolute iconic as shit of a Seb, Alonso and Lewis podium. At this point in time they had 6 WDCs between them, if that podium was repeated this year it would be double that. Legen-fucking-dary.
Next race up is Great Britain!
#F1 Re Watch#F1 2013 Re watch#f1 liveblog#canadian gp 2013#finally finish my online training modules for the UCI Championships so I watched this as a treat
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vro0m’s rewatch - 117/304
2013 Canadian GP
It's round 7 and I don't have a full broadcast again (but I still have gifs).
Seb is on pole in front of Lewis. Then OH! it's Bottas in 3rd! Way to go! Rosberg is 4th, Webber 5th, Alonso 6th, JEV 7th, Sutil 8th, Hulkenberg 9th and Raikkonen is 10th. Grosjean is last with a 10-place grid penalty he earned for his crash in Monaco. It was a wet qualifying so they all get to choose their tyres today. Everyone seems to be on the supersofts.
Formation lap
And they're racing!
Good start for Seb and Lewis, Rosberg overtakes Bottas and Webber puts him under pressure into turn 2. He's ahead. Now it's Alonso looking to overtake Bottas for P5, but he's defending well, not enough though. Oooh a few laps in, Sutil and Maldonado make contact and Sutil spins. It could have ended badly, several cars could have collided with him there. Raikkonen is complaining about issues that could be the same issues he had in China, according to Ted. It's lap 10, 60 to go.
There's some racing in the midfield but at the front it's still Seb, already over 5 seconds ahead of Lewis, himself 4.5 second ahead of Rosberg. Then Webber and Alonso are not far behind. Seb just brushed against a wall. Ricciardo, Raikkonen and Massa are fighting closely over P8. Now Alonso is closing on Webber, who pits on lap 14, which is early. Perez pits as well, he had issues with degradation. Rosberg follows on lap 15. He's out in P4 in front of Webber. Bottas also comes in. Sutil and Maldonado are under investigation for the earlier collision. Lewis is pushing. It's critical. He's doing well. Maldonado gets a drive-through penalty. Webber is only half a second behind Rosberg. Seb pits from the lead on lap 16. Alonso follows in. Rosberg is having overheating issues. Oh my. Seb gained 1.2 seconds over Lewis in the last lap. It's surprising that they decided to keep him out for so long. But here he comes. He comes back out on mediums, ahead of Nico, in P2. The strategy actually worked pretty well. We're on lap 20.
We're back on pre-pit stops order : Seb, Lewis, Rosberg, Webber, Alonso. Raikkonen gets a terrible pit stop. It's a catastrophic race for him. A few laps later, the gaps between Rosberg, Webber and Alonso are shrinking.
On lap 30, the fight for P3 is starting. Lewis is 8 seconds ahead of them, and Seb an additional 17 seconds away. Rosberg locks up twice. Webber overtakes him. Alonso overtakes him. It's clean racing. Lewis is now 10 seconds clear. Rosberg pits. Webber sets the fastest lap. Holy shit. Mercedes tells Rosberg he has to go to the end on these tyres?! That would be 39 laps! That's insane! Seb, who's leading the WDC, just lapped Raikkonen, who's second in the standings. Lewis says he has DRS issues. Seb lost a bit of time in the traffic but he's still waaaay ahead. Webber lost time because he's made contact with a backmarker. Or more accurately a backmarker has made contact with him. He has front wing damage now, so Alonso is pushing. The offender, Van der Garde, is under investigation for ignoring blue flags.
We're on lap 40, and instead of being impaired by the front wing damage, Webber's pace is better than before. Van Der Garde gets a 10 second stop and go penalty, which seems severe. Lewis picks up the pace in response to Webber but he's still over 7 seconds ahead. Alonso is attacking. And he overtakes Webber. I'm getting bored. Webber pits. They don't change his front wing. For some reason Van Der Garde's front wing is now under his own car, though? Yellow flags. Alonso pits. Van der Garde stops his car in a safe area, he's out. It was caused by very light contact with Hulkenberg. Hulkenberg gets a puncture + possible suspension failure and he's also out. Lewis pits. Seb pits from the lead. It's lap 50, 20 to go.
Listen. The best lapped car is in P8. How insane is that?! What kind of pace do these leaders have, damn. Rosberg locks up veeery badly. Let's see. So Seb obviously still in the lead, now 18.4 seconds ahead of Lewis, himself 6 seconds ahead of Alonso, himself 3 seconds ahead of Webber, who is actually gaining on him. And Lewis is gaining on Seb? But it's now Alonso who sets the fastest lap. Oh damn. He's less than 2 seconds behind Lewis all of a sudden. That explains why Lewis is picking up the pace. Alonso gets the DRS from a backmarker and gets himself even closer to Lewis. 1.2 seconds. There's traffic. Bono tells Lewis about traction metrics and temperature and Lewis answers "please, just let me drive, man!" Alonso sets the fastest lap again. Rosberg pits, unsurprisingly, the idea that he'd last 39 laps on these tyres was insane.
It's lap 60, Alonso has DRS and he's now half a second behind Lewis! Sutil gets a drive through for ignoring blue flags. (Why did he not get the same penalty as Van der Garde? Just because of the slight contact?) The gap is still half a second. Lewis is asking continuously for blue flags over the radio as he gets caught up in traffic. Alonso attacks! Lewis had the inside line in the hairpin they almost made contact jesus christ but Alonso is forced to lift in the corner. Again. And the third time, he's ahead, THEY TOUCH WHEELS. Brundle says Lewis has to give up but he doesn't give up, he's now just behind Alonso and he'll get DRS. Yes. He's half a second behind… attacking! They made contact again, Lewis has some front wing damage. He slows down a little. And he's out of the DRS zone. Yellow flags, it's Gutierrez who's crashed. The DRS is disabled.
And it's the end of the race.
Seb wins, Alonso P2, and Lewis P3.
The cool down room is very silent. Seb is softly chatting with the Redbull representative while the two others are on each side of the room looking elsewhere.
The anthem is extra long I think?
Lewis doesn't look very happy about P3, understandably. But then he plays with Seb and champagne and it all gets better lol.
Oh god… while I was looking to see if I could find more content elsewhere, I learned a marshal died after the race as he was hit by a crane that was removing a car from the track. What a horrible thing to happen.
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maybe i’m mistaken but.. the way the media treats louis has changed a bit. (not necessarily in a Good way just. different?) hear me out.. i was reading this shitty daily mail article that talked about harry’s 30th - and ofc it was filled with all kinds of daily mail typical nonsense. but when it predictably started listing off the “shortcomings” of the other 1d members and how they weren’t nearly as worthy of having their ass kissed as harry, louis’ bit wasn’t as bad as the others..? especially compared to the way they focused on liam’s alcoholism and had several paragraphs dedicated to insulting zayn.
they described him as “pint sized” and said his venues were “noticeably smaller than harry’s” (which, no fucking shit? holo was in the works starting back in 2013). the worst part was alluding to jay and fizzy’s deaths being some kind of “one direction curse”. other than that though - no mention of freddie, the airport arrest, the chile leak (which.. didn’t DM leak that..?), beef with H, tiffs with journalists, etc.
i just think it’s super weird that the worst insults they could come up with were calling him tiny and comparing his tour to H’s? it’s almost like the strategy they’ve collectively taken in the last year-ish is to downplay his success and aid in the gp not taking his solo career seriously (by minimizing any of his solo accomplishments/focusing on 1d/sexualizing or objectifying him) rather than being outright insulting and aggressive and throwing vitriol at him hoping he breaks.
could also just be that they were too busy lavishing so much nauseating praise on H that they surpassed their word count or they wanted to insinuate that louis was forgettable or not worth their time, but idk!
hate to give them clicks but here’s the link if you want to read it in full:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/usshowbiz/article-13032513/Why-Harry-Styless-friends-urging-settle-married-babies-30th-birthday-today-lives-incognito-life-London-Canadian-model-Taylor-Russell.html?ito=native_share_article-top
First, it’s actually very on-brand for an article about Harry Styles’ birthday to consist mostly of insults about the other 1D guys. The fact that this is 2024 but media still feel the need to do this belies the hollowness of the Harry Styles hype.
After three years of build-up in 1D (2013-15) and eight years of industry propping him up, giving Harry Styles the access to the biggest songwriters and producers in the industry, the best venues money and power can buy, Azoff clients and adjacent saying his farts don’t smell, movie roles handed to him on a silver platter, with Christopher Nolan no less?, iconic Phoebe Waller-Bridges making a music video with him, Chloe Zhao saying he’s the second coming of Christ, Bono loving him more than his own child, even Billie Eilish and Miley Cyrus wanting to work with him, bought Grammys over Beyoncé etc., and this is the best they can do for his birthday? That Harry is “better than the rest of 1D”?
DM sounds a little like Harries on Twitter boasting about Harry Styles’ streams, or his wealth, or his Grammys and stadium tours, all of which amounts to the same boast: look what industry can create.
Look what they did with someone so white, bland, and pretty. Look at the money machine they built from a guy so vaguely defined as to have no identity at all. Harry Styles says nothing, supports nothing, sings about nothing, stands for nothing. Harry’s convictions are those of Jeff Azoff & friends. He truly lives up to his name: all style, absolutely no substance.
But Harry has… numbers. Harries (and media) cling onto numbers like peasants worshipping the god of hard currency. They love that money. The way they boast about Harry’s numbers is a little scary, to be honest. It suggests that there’s nothing else they like about him.
We can also tell, nine years later, that Harry isn’t the deep-thinking romantic poet he was painted to be, the one who cared about social issues and community, the one who thought deeply about human relationships and love, the one who cared for his fans enough to speak to us like family, to treat us with care, to do one-on-one fan service, to look genuinely happy in our presence, to look and act grateful even as those words pass his lips onstage AND off, to measure the people he works with with genuine, heartfelt friendship and not only because of their power and influence.
Because it’s very clear, nine years later, who that person in One Direction was. It’s the guy who never put 1D down, who, despite everything that has happened since, values the journey and can articulate it with all of the bittersweet authenticity to his experience. It’s the guy whose album was delayed for years because his first solo single competed a little too hard with Harry’s.
To your other point about press being nicer to Louis this year, other people have noticed the same thing, that Louis has been winning touring awards and other peripheral awards not central to the music industry. He isn’t going to walk the Brits or Grammys red carpet, and he won’t be nominated for VMAs or Aria awards.
But Louis isn’t even supposed to have a solo performing career in 2024. After 2017, the industry shut him out of radio and streaming. Faith In The Future was shut out of critical reviews. He started touring with a 1500 capacity venue. He isn’t supposed to be able to sell arenas, let alone stadiums. He wasn’t supposed to set a livestream world record— not when Niall did one the same year. Louis isn’t supposed to be friends with indie musicians, or have a reputation as “rock ‘n roll royalty”— having been shut out of the BBC. He isn’t supposed to tour the biggest venues in Australia. He isn’t supposed to sell arenas in Poland or Romania or Finland or Turkey. He isn’t supposed to create his own festival, give fans the first festival completely free, and showcase young, upcoming bands. Louis wasn’t supposed to be in the position to nurture any band, was he? He was supposed to be ancient history by now. They all were supposed to kneel before the legendary Harry Styles and disappear.
But Louis is selling upwards of 700k tickets for his second tour, and here we are, Harries following his every move, Larries relying on him to launder Harry’s image, and DM having to acknowledge that Louis is successfully, happily touring and making music on his own terms, with his own employees, singing his own lyrics to his enthralled audiences. He doesn’t take the bait to compare himself to his bandmates, nor relive old fights, nor stir up band controversy. He doesn’t talk badly about the other men’s relationships or families. He’s the only one who has watched Niall’s and Liam’s concerts and publicly supports all the guys’ careers. If the worst they can say is that Louis isn’t Harry Styles, thank God he isn’t. Thank god he stayed himself, went through the fires and came out better. One Direction mythology has eroded over the years, but at least Louis remained good, inside and out. Not perfect, but human, trying, and genuinely, actually good.
Who really knows why media can show some positivity to Louis now. I am cautious about any real change. I guess the rest of 2024 will be revealing. I’ve been waiting for so long that I don’t really expect anything different. We’ll see.
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rubicon program references
due to the slow death of twitter i'm collecting my program links here. (almost) none of the rubicon skates are meant to be identical to real life programs, but some of the inspiration is pretty one-to-one… and some is a little less direct.
if you find yourself region blocked, try a free vpn - i recommend the veepn browser extension (firefox | chrome) or proton.
if you only have so much time, i've starred the most important ones. if you want more… i have so many more.
chapter one
**tessa virtue/scott moir - mahler no. 5 (olympics 2010)
chapter two
tessa virtue/scott moir - carmen (worlds 2013)
kaitlyn weaver/andrew poje - the way you make me feel (canadian nationals 2017) | bonus worlds finish
chapter three
nadia bashynska/peter beaumont - romeo & juliet (gp espoo 2023)
maia shibutani/alex shibutani - smile (4cc 2011)
**michelle kwan - tosca (us nationals 2004) | music
chapter four
**meryl davis/charlie white - scheherazade (olympics 2014)
shizuka arakawa - turandot (olympics 2006)
**alexei yagudin - winter (olympics 2002)
chapter five
daisuke takahashi - blues for klook (worlds 2013)
mirai nagasu - pirates of the caribbean (olympics 2010)
chapter six
miki ando - the mission (4cc 2011)
meryl davis/charlie white - my fair lady (olympics 2014)
chapter seven
katarina witt - where have all the flowers gone (olympics 1994)
chapter eight
mao asada - bells of moscow (olympics 2010)
shoma uno - dancing on my own (internationaux de france 2019)
chapter nine & ten
mao asada - rachmaninov no. 2 (olympics 2014)
kazuki tomono - one more time (rostelecom cup 2018 gala)
tessa virtue/scott moir - what's love got to do with it (niagara ice show 2016)
yuna kim - les misérables (all that skate 2013)
ensemble - uptown funk (ice fantasia 2019)
chapter eleven
madison chock/evan bates - touch/contact (olympics 2022 team event)
chapter twelve
yuzuru hanyu - romeo and juliet (worlds 2012)
chapter thirteen
tatsuki machida - east of eden (worlds 2014)
johnny weir - the swan (olympics 2006)
kaitlin hawayek/jean-luc baker - feeling good (us nationals 2017)
tessa virtue/scott moir - prince medley (worlds 2017)
chapter fourteen
**jeremy abbott - lilies of the valley (olympics 2014)
nathan chen - le corsaire (us nationals 2017)
chapter fifteen
yuzuru hanyu - heaven and earth (olympics 2022)
denis ten - the artist (worlds 2013)
chapter sixteen & seventeen
ashley wagner - moulin rouge (us nationals 2015)
chapter eighteen
kaori sakamoto - elastic heart (worlds 2023)
shoma uno - dancing on my own (japan nationals 2019)
**adam rippon - arrival of the birds (olympics 2018)
chapter nineteen
michelle kwan - fields of gold (olympics 2002)
**tessa virtue/scott moir - moulin rouge (olympics 2018)
epilogue
tessa virtue/scott moir - long time running (olympics 2018 gala)
bonus
the rippon lutz (quad edition)
stationary lift BASE?
f/f ice dance feat. madison hubbell and gabrielle papadakis
best of kpop in figure skating
fs dynamics 101
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when VM triumphed at PYC do you know if Marina commented anything about it?!?? I seem to remember a photo of her hugging Scott (I don't know if Tessa too), but I'm curious if she has commented on them and their performance…
I’m not aware of anything (evidence) photos, VM saying something etc..
I mentioned a while ago, watching their SD, the camera cuts to the crowd and there’s a bunch of Canadians cheering (also Steph Lambiel I’m noticing for the first time) and Marina is sitting in the bottom corner:
I don’t want to just sound straight up negative/tin hatty, but I don’t know how else to read that reaction from her (considering the reactions of everyone around her) as anything but… not happy they skated so well.. like that doesn’t look like the reaction of someone who still cares about them (as athletes she invested 10 years of coaching into and had a huge part in their success) it looks to me like she hoped they would screw up and they didn’t so she’s pissed, and everyone else around being amazed and elated.. she’s like ‘meh.. wasn’t that good’.
My feeling on it is I think she definitely hoped PC would win.. idk for sure- I don’t know the woman, but I don’t thing she wanted, wasn’t hoping for VM to finish their career with a gold. She would know that the Shibs were skating for bronze.. but I just don’t think she would’ve been rooting for vm to win.. I think she would’ve been like GP (of PC) in the green room watching VM skate last thinking ‘shit, they didn’t mess up. Shit, Shit! They arnt screwing up’.. it’s horrible to say but it’s just the vibe I get from Marina, based on verryyyy limited info but including what VM have said about their experience with her specifically 2013-2014, how things ended. This clip above (from the olys), and also unfortunately a bit of natural human instinct that some people have to root against people you should or have in the past cared deeply for, and I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a bit of jealously/resentment.. the last two (really 3) olys she had at least one team fighting for gold (BA in 06 then VM, DW 🙄in 10,14) and this year the best she could get was bronze.. a bit of resentment that VM are succeeding with somebody other than her and…. sorry I’m just gonna say it bluntly.. sabotaged their chance to win in 2014.. she’s pissed they were so good and just couldn’t accept being happy for them. Again.. all this based on that 2 second clip of her in the stands… but also based on just general human psychology in these kind of situations. Could be wrong, maybe she was happy for them on some level..
The only thing that comes to mind of S hugging her is this moment from GPF the previous season:
From this fan cam video of the medal ceremony.. this clearly goes against everything I said above, but these are all just pleasantries and everyone being nice bc they are adults..
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Hello people it's me. After struggling how to do this, here's finally how I am uploading my post about Lance's F1 career.
I decided to hit you guys with the qualy comparisons of him and his teammates first and foremost. It's just data where I highlight the Qualifyings he did better in but I thought it would be nice to see how far of he actually was.
Before going into my very long rant (about 8000 words) that I tried to keep as objective as possible I do want to note that of course there will be personal opinions and comments throughout as I am also just human and a fan as well. And with that note, let's dive in
Lance Stroll's journey to F1 and the question of why he is
probably one of the most underrated drivers on the current grid
Lance career began in 2008 when he first started carting. During 2008 and 2009 he won multiple
championships in the Canadian junior category. 2010 saw him winning the Rotax Mini Max of the
Florida winter Tour. In that same year he was signed on by the Ferrari driver academy. Considering
he was only 11 at the time and had basically only just started carting, that was a huge deal. Yes not
every signed driver by Ferrari makes it blah blah but they made it very clear that they saw potential
in him and wanted him to be racing in Europe for them. So, 2011 saw Lance first time competing in
European championships. In one of those he was 9th for example. The just mentioned WSK-Euro
Series in KF3 saw some familiar drivers such as the winner, Max Verstappen. Some other names
that might sound family for example P2 would be Esteban Ocon or George Russell in P7.
2012 and
2013 saw him once again in many carting championships before he started Formula racing in 2014.
He competed in the Florida Winter series where he got a pole and two podiums once again up
against Max and drivers such as Tatiana Calderón or Antonio Fuoco. But most importantly from
that year, he won the Italian F4 championship by nearly a hundred points.
2015 saw him competing in the European F3 championship where he finished 5th after the following
drivers (all names many of you will be family with): Jake Dennis, Charles Leclerc, Felix
Rosenquvist and Antonio Giovinazzi. That same year also saw him finishing 8th in the Macau GP
behind once again driver such as Charles Leclerc and Felix Rosenquivst. He also in that year won
the Toyota racing series by over a hundred points. This year he also left the Ferrari driver program
and joined the Williams academy. He became their development driver for 2016.
In 2016 he once again competed in the F3 to this time win it by a nearly 200 point advantage. P2
saw Maximilian Günther and P3 was none other than George Russell. He also raced the Daytona 24
Hours where his team finished 5th overall.
Before we move on F1, I do feel the need to address something that has been brought up multiple
times. The rumours that Lance had a better car because his father was rich, that his team-mates
never had a chance etc. I think that is complete bullshit and frankly manly used to underline his
talent. Even with the best car, the worst driver would do something wrong. Sure you can call him
mid but considering the huge gap he had in his second year, I think it's fair to say he had talent in
him. Also the fact that Felix regularly comments on Lance posts does not seem like there is any bad
will against him. Yes, he had better equipment etc. to win but the way he wrapped up the season still
speaks to his talent.
2017- The start of it all
Lance started his F1 career in 2017 with Williams. His team mate then was Felipe Massa. This was
a huge leap considering Lance short experience with Formula racing and it was understandably
questioned. Nonetheless 2017 saw him starting alongside Felipe who jumped into that seat after Val
signed with Mercedes following Nico's retirement. I think it is also noteworthy to mention here that
in 2016 he already was a development driver for them so there was always the probability for him
to drive. I personally think he could and should have done another year in Formula racing (F2) but
that is my own opinion. What people however also seem to forget is that will it might have been to
early for him in F1, he did have a bit of experience as the Williams development driver. And
considering that they had just lost Val who looked like one of the youngest and most promising
drivers on that grid, it made sense for them to search for another young driver for their team.
He made his depute in the Australian GP. During that third free practice, he crashed as he was going
too fast which then resulted in him having a penalty (he qualified last.) At the race start he gained
about 7 places before he had brake issues and had to retire the car.
His second race saw him qualifying tenth but immediately taken out on the first lap by Sergio
(could be argued for a race incident but I think there's more blame on Perez.)
Now, his third race same him time wise qualify closer to his team mate but only in 12th place. In the
race he flat spotted his tyre and did an early pitstop before his collision with Sainz. (Sainz came out
of the pit lane very quick and just dive bombed into him. He was behind even after exiting the pit
lane so Sainz should have waited for Lance to drive past.)
Russia finally saw a turn around in his luck. He once again qualified 12th and finished the race in
P11. His fifth race after that saw him just mere 3 tenth off his team mate but sadly out in Q1 and
overall he finished P16.
Monaco saw him crash out in FP2 and qualify 18th. He got up to 15th and then later in the race had to
retire because of overheating brakes. Luck once again not on his side.
Canada finally saw a change when he not only qualified 7th but managed to come 9th in the race. He
finally scored his first points in his home race.
Then Azerbaijan happened and for the first time ever Lance out-qualified his team mate and got 8th.
But that is nothing compared to the drive he managed to pull off in that race. He wasn't the quickest
but he once again proved that sometimes just consistently driving is enough to get into a good
position and then profit from it. Many of the top teams drivers dropped out due to penalties or
problems but that doesn't discredit Lance consistent drive in the top 10 which managed to get him a
podium spot. Incredible how he managed to keep a gap and his place and only just missed out
because of Val in the last corners. If not for that he would have gotten P2. A great race from him.
Next race once again not a great Qualifying in P18 but still managed P10. The first two laps saw
Lance move up to P11 and then hang around that most of the race.
Next race he qualified 16h (penalty moving him up 1 place) and dropped to 16th .
The next race he qualified 17th and finished 14th. His qualifying was hindered by Kvyat.
After that he got once again unlucky and because off a damaged rear wing was only able to set one
lap which meant he qualified 18th and finished just outside the points in 11th.
Then, something I feel like many people also don't know, Lance started the next race as the
youngest driver ever on the front row (he originally qualified only 4th but penalties of both RedBull
drivers put him up to second place.) During that entire qualifying he was only slightly off from the
top 3 teams. Did he drop back during the race? Yes, he only finished 7th but you have to consider
that his car did not have the race pace to compete with any of the three top teams and he wasn't even
in the best midfield car.
Side note, this was a wet qualifying and just behind him was Esteban. Funnily enough that changed
in the race where he and Esteban where the best mid field drivers behind the top teams.
The next race yet again saw him qualify 18th and yet he finished the race in 8th. A chaotic race with
many DNFs saw Williams massively profit, especially Lance.
After that the following race saw him qualify 13th and once again finish 8th.
After that another qualifying in 18th. That race saw Lance up to 11th before he sadly went off and
then seemed to struggle with the car. After that he ultimately failed to finish as a result of a puncture
on his front wheel.
In the US GP he qualified 17th as a result of a penalty for him hindering Romain. The race saw him
finish 11th, just outside of the points.
Mexico saw him qualify 12th and finish in 6th. A great race from him where he was in the top 5 until
Seb overtook him.
After that he once again qualified 18th and finished 16th. He was two laps down after a problem with
a front tyre. The last race saw him qualifying 15th and he finished 18th
.
Another incident that many like to blame him for here is the post-race crash with Seb. Bizarre but
truly only because it seems like neither is really fully at fault. Also, if this is one of the only things
you can use against a driver, maybe you might want to reconsider if he truly is such a bad driver.
Anyways, I still put a video here for anyone that is interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRAN9pzdwsw
So, what does that mean for his first F1 season?
Well, his qualifying besides Imola you could argue was lacking pace and I absolutely will agree that
it was bad. Then again what would you expect in someone's first F1 season, especially when up
against a solid driver like Massa? Still, his qualifying definitely should have been better, I will
agree. He was too inconsistent and too far off.
In comparison to Massa he seemingly could make up places more easily though.
All of the negatives are clearly overshadowed by the fact that in his first F1 season he was only 3
points behind his team-mate with double the amount of DNFs.
Not to mention that he not only is one of the youngest podium sitters but he is also the youngest
front row starter (All in his first season.)
He had 4 DNFs of which he was not at fault for anyone of those (maybe in the racing incident but
then again I see the blame more at Perez side than anyone else’s.)
Yes he had about 3 free practices were he crashed then again he is was a rookie. Sure it's not great
but accidents like that happen especially when you are not only new to the car but the entire form of
racing.
So, all in all if you look at his statistics:
For his first season he managed a podium, a front row start and 6 points finishes in maybe the 6th
best car? He finished just three points behind his team-mate in 12th (with 40 points) in the overall
standing. His average Qualifying position was 14 and his average race finish was 11th.
Considering he had no F1 experience, had only been racing in Formula championships for 3 years
at that point and was up against Felipe Massa who is still regarded very highly, I would say he did
quiet al-right.
If anyone is interested in his DNFs, so you can form your own opinion:
Sadly I can't find a video of his first incident but the race is easy to find.
Here is him and Perez https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka11N-hLshE
Here is a video of him and Sainz colliding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDNGfCTpJpQ
This was in China where he had a puncture on his front wheel (Also he could barely avoid Daniel
since it is hard to steer when your wheel is like that yet he still managed to not make it into a big
incident which I think deserves some credit)
https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/videos/japan-
2017-lance-strolls-puncture/907887256034924/
2018- a season to forget
Now in 2018, without a doubt there was a huge step back which is because that car was truly not it.
I would say it was the worst car on the grid, therefore you should take these results as the lest
credible. That Williams wasn't predictable in many ways and you could probably name this as the
season the team went downhill. With Sergey as a new teammate and Lance only a year in F1, there
also was the problem with having inexperienced drivers to give feedback for that car and lead the
team.
In the opening race he qualified 14th and finished in that same position. After that he qualified 20th
and finished 14th again. China saw him 18th and once again finish 14th
.
Then he just merely missed out on 10th and qualified 11th and somehow managed to get into the
points at 8th. I should mention however that this race saw may DNFs but I think he still did a good
job with that car.
Spain saw him 19th but he managed to finish 11th in that race. Again capitalizing from DNF but still
impressive considering he qualified behind his teammate.
His bad qualifying continued with 18th and saw him finish in 17th
.
Sadly at his home race it wasn't much better with a 17th place and DNF after a collision with
Brendon Hartley. France saw him qualify last again and DNF as a result of a tyre blow out.
After that he finally managed to get into Q2 again, qualifying 15th and finishing in 14th , getting a
10-second penalty for ignoring blue flags.
In Great Britain Lance had to start from the pit lane because parts of his car were changed and still
managed to finish 12th. Once again he was able to profit from some unfortunate DNFs but still a
good drive.
In the 11th race he qualified 19th and once again had a DNF as a result of a problem with his brakes
(They retired the car during a safety car period).
The next race saw him qualify 15th but start from the pit lane due to changes under Parc-fermé
which meant he only finished 17th. Spa saw him qualify 19th again and finish 13th.
Monza finally brought good results in a 10th place in Qualy and a 9th place finish. He was nearly the
best of the rest in a car that somehow just seemed to work on that track. Probably his best race of
that season. A great drive.
After that he qualified 20h again and finished 14th. Once again making up places and outplacing his
teammate.
Russia saw him last in Qualifying and 15th in the race. Then he qualified 14th and finished 17th.
The US GP saw him qualify 18th and finish 14th. Qualifying in Mexico saw Lance 19th again but he
finished the race in 12th.
That picture didn't really change much in Brazil where he once again was 19th and finished 18th. And
the season didn't really end on a high. Qualifying last and finishing in 13th.
So, how can we sum this up?
Well, even though this season was arguably his worst he still somehow got 6 points which is 5 more
than his team mate Sergei Sirotkin. While his Qualifying still was lacking(an average of 17), it is
still impressive that with that car he managed to have an average race finishing position of 13th. It is
also notable that he was often times making up at least 3 places in his races where he finished
higher which given the struggle that car seemed to be is worthy of noting. In comparison to his
team-mate it is clear that Lance struggles in Qualy but consistently finishes in a similar position.
Out of the two of them he also managed to get multiple points finishes even though he qualified
further back, something which I would argue is a strength of him. Yes most of their points finishes
were as a result of the others misfortune but still, they had to capitalize during these races and most
of that did come from Lance. Also, quiet a bit of Qualy saw him closer to his teammate.
Here's the DNFs for anyone that is interested:
Canada was arguably the biggest one where I understand why people might blame Lance but seeing
how unpredictable that oversteer was and how he struggled with the car I would say it was more a
racing incident than anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPn_GCa3mU
The tyre blow out in France https://twitter.com/F1/status/1010997824928878592
There isn't anything about Germany but watching the race you will see them retire the car towards
the end.
2019- a season of change
Lance went to Racing Point and now has Sergio Perez as his team mate. Obviously with Lawrence
buying RP and saving that team as well as Esteban losing his seat, Lance was not at all well
received and already was guaranteed to be heavily judged, more so than what would have likely
been fair. While I do get that point of Esteban losing his seat, I would also argue that the team of
Sergio and Esteban was clearly not working and would have in the long run probably cost that team
more points than they liked so I think there also is a tactical reason behind it.
In Australia he qualifies 16th but what people don't remember is that in Q1 he and Checo were only
separated by less than a tenth of a second. That race sees Lance finishing 9th. After managing his
tyres longer than Perez he managed to stay in the top 10,even closing in to 8th while having to keep
others behind.
The second race of the season sees Lance qualifying 18th and finishing 14th. Next race Lance
qualifies 16th and finished 12th.
The fourth race sees Lance qualify 16th and finishing 9th. He made up a flew places and was even
closing in at the end.
Spain sees Lance qualify 17th and not finishing after coming together with Lando.
The next race saw Lance qualifying 18th just behind Sergio and ultimately finishing 16th.
Lance home race once again sees him qualify 18th just under a tenth behind Sergio. He manages to
finish in 9th place. Just going to add this little video that quickly shows some of the moves he made .
A great race for him.
https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/videos/canada-2019-stroll-puts-on-a-show-for-his-home-
fans/824107727965322/
The 8th race sees him in 18th but he manages to finish the race in 13th, just a place behind Sergio.
Austria once again sees Lance just a tenth behind Sergio in 17th and that race he finishes in 14th.
Something very similar happens the next race when Lance is just about a tenth of Sergio and
qualifies 18th. That race he finishes 13th.
The German GP sees Lance finally in Q2 in 15th place. That race he comes 4th. An incredible drive
to the surprise of many considering this is a wet race where a lot of drivers got themselves out of
podium positions. Yes he was leading that race for a short while and was potentially on for a
podium but I don't think there is any way he could have beaten that Ferrari or RedBull/Toro Rosso
package who just seemed more dominant. Yeah sure you could argue what would have happened
but the fact was, Racing Point made the smartest decision that race and got the maximum points
thanks to Lance driving.
After that great race he qualifies 19th and finishes 17th.
In Belgium he qualifies 13th but due to changes of car parts starts from the back. Despite that he still
finishes that race in 10th place.
The next race he finally manages to outqualify Sergio by quiet a margin and gets himself into Q3
and 9th place. Sadly he drops back to 12th in the race.
In Singapore he once again is less than a tenth behind Sergio in Q1 but sadly only manages P16.
During that race he gets up to 13th place.
Russia sees him P15 (P14 after a penalty for Pierre) and then up to P11. He just missed out on
points.
In Japan he once again outqualifies Sergio and get P12, managing to climb up to P9. He finished
just behind Checo.
Mexico saw him 16th and getting up to 12th.
In the US GP Lance once again by a huge margin manages to outqualify Sergio and gets 14th place.
In the race he finishes 13th. In Brazil he qualifies 17th and DNFs. The last race sees him qualify 13th
and sadly not finishing.
This was an incident at Monza that many like to use against Lance where Seb clearly rejoins the
track in an unsafe manner causing Lance to nearly crash. Lance does it similarly and I agree that it
was stupid from him but also Lance clearly was on the racing line and his engineers should have
told him who was coming from behind as every driver would want to go back into the race and
away from the racing line. You can clearly see by the speed of the cars behind that the field was
close together. Still not a good manoeuvre from Lance but in my opinion different from Seb.
https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/videos/2019-italian-grand-prix-vettel-and-stroll-collide-at-
monza/269709670687851/
So what can we say about Lance's season?
I think he showed a step up in Qualy. If you look at his and Checo's times in most Q1s they were
often less than 3 tenths apart and they were times when Lance was even less than a tenth off. I think
he was still inconsistent but his Qualifying definitely improved. And I think the big points gap is
largely down to Lance qualifying further back. You can see that there are quiet a few races where
they made up the same places but because Lance qualified further back so he got less points.
Then again you have to question how much of their points or performance difference might be
down to Checo having been with the team for a longer time and being a more experienced driver.
Did he outperform the car? Did Lance underperform? I think you can see progress here from Lance
and I think many people misjudge their points difference. You also have to see that Lance in that
year could have gotten a podium and scored the teams highest result. If you round their averages,
Lance qualifies 15/16th place and finishes 12 while Sergio qualifies around 12/13th place and has an
average finish of 10th
.
Here's the DNFs for anyone that wants to check them out:
This is Lance and Lando. Honestly, for me a pure racing incident. Lance didn't expect Lando to
make a move there, Lando might have been a bit too enthusiastic with that manoeuvre. I wouldn't
put blame on one of them, just a simply misjudgement and miscommunication that cost both of
them the race.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.spanish-gp-norris-stroll-clash-brings-out-
the-safety-car.6060938080001.html
In Brazil he ran over debrief and as a result of that might have broken his front suspension.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.brazilian-gp-stroll-retires-with-front-suspension-damage.1687522499774886264.html
In Abu Dhabi there is firstly a first lap incident which damages his car. I can see fault on his part but
I also think that this is just a typical first lap incident that is unfortunate. I couldn't exactly find a
clip where it shows him retiring but ultimately a brake issue forced him to retire.
2020 and the story of what could have been
Oh 2020 my behated. Lance is still with Racing Point and still has Sergio as a team mate.
The first race saw him qualify 9th and than immediately out of the race. He had to retire with engine
issues and could have possibly scored points had that not happened (he would have likely been P8
or P9.) The next race saw qualify 13th and finish 7th just behind Sergio. An incredible drive that saw
him defending his position until the line quiet literally.
Hungary saw him start from P3, an incredible Qualifying and finish P4, just behind the Mercedes
and Max. He was basically a top driver during that weekend. There was no better result to achieve.
The British GP after that ended with him in P9 after starting P6.
In the Anniversary GP he started P6 and finished in P6.
The sixth race saw him start from P5 and finish in P4. Once again being the best outside of the
expected top 3.
It continued so well with a start and finish of P9 in Spa.
It got even better when Monza came and Lance managed P3 after starting P8. Yes, he did throw
away a potential win but I am certain that he would have been overtaken by Sainz anyway because
he had more speed that weekend with the McLaren package so I don't think he could have ever
finished higher than P2.
And then it went downhill with Mugello, kick-starting the “What ifs”. From P6 (he moved up after
Perez took a penalty) to a DNF. A puncture sent him to the barriers possibly costing him a podium.
Before going off he was P4 chasing P3. At the very least he would have gotten a P5 finish.
Next up was Russia where Lance qualified 13th. When I say it starts to go downhill, I mean it. He
was fighting for P11/P12 and then got taken out by Charles. I am certain he would have at least got
P10 if he hadn't crashed out, potentially even up to P8.
The next race Lance misses out because of Covid so on to Portugal we go. He qualified 12th, not
bad. Then of course there is the incident with Lando which for me personally was a racing incident
but I can see the blame on Lance. It was an ambitious move, some might cool it reckless but so
many people would be praising any other driver if that had worked. It ultimately resulted in him
having to retire because of that damage.
Next up was Imola where Lance started 15th and finished 13th. Due to contact with Esteban during
the first lap he had to pit early and that basically ruined any chance he had at the race.
And then Turkey happened. The heartbreak and elation that weekend inspired. First off all, if
anyone tries to discredit Lance Pole as anything other than possibly one of the greatest Qualifying
results in the last years I am smashing their heads with a hammer. Yes that Racing Point was a fast
car. Yes, they obviously could be podium contenders if Mercedes or RedBull messed up. But considering Max reputation and Lewis pure race craft, I don't think anyone thought that they would
be anything other than the top 2 drivers. And in comes Lance with a lap about 3 tenth faster than
Max in a worse car.
Incredible. And then Racing Point saw that and + Sergio's P3 and went “Nah, we can only have one
of them on the podium.” During that race I genuinely thought the first 30 laps that Lance would
win. And then they go against his pit call which turns out to have made things worse (no pace) and
discover later on that Lance had a problem with his front wing which slowed him down. Therefore
he only got 9th.
I don't really want to talk about Bahrain because the only thing that mattered about that race was
seeing Romain get out of the car but I have to if I want to recap Lance performance. I am going to
keep it short. He qualified 13th and didn't finish as he was turned upside down by Kvyat. Would
have probably been a points finish but truly nothing of that race really matters or mattered other
than Romain being okay.
The next race finally saw something good again with Lance qualifying 10th and being third on that
podium. This was overshadowed by Sergio's win but it was a great result from him and the team.
The last race saw Lance in P8 and finishing in P10.
Spain had a great start for him again which I just want to add here.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.spanish-grand-prix-stroll-overtakes-bottas-with-amazing-start.1687526223371988110.html
So, what is the overall season summary?
This was without a doubt Lance best season. I mean come on. The only reason why people think he
did bad is because they merely look at the points which you can't. Lance had so many DNFs this
season where he wasn't at fault and which meant he missed out on huge points. I don't doubt that if
he only had half of the DNFs or even if Turkey had gone the way it should have, he would very
much be closer to Checo. Without a doubt he was never as close to a team-mate than he was in
2020. Even Qualy shows how mostly they were so close pace was. I think he would have had at
least 2 other podiums (Mugello and Turkey) if luck had just been a bit more on his side. So
therefore I think he would have had at least a 100 points. Sadly that didn't happen.
But this was
undoubtedly his greatest season so let's just collect his achievement that he did have:
He got the best qualifying results of the team that year, a pole and a third place. He also got two
podiums and two fourth place finish. All the races expect 1 that he finished were Top 10 finishes.
He outqualified his team mate multiple times.
Here are the DNFs if anyone wants to look them up:
There is no clip I can find of the Austria GP since they basically just call him into the pits.
The Mugello DNF (This is a fairly heavy crash so don't watch it if you can't see stuff like that) A
possible puncture, another incident completely out of his hands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ebaeSw8ZE
This was Russia where Lance got taken out by Charles. I don't really think it's the worst attempt I
have seen but yeah, blame to Charles because he clearly saw Lance if that camera perspective is
anything to go by.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2020-russian-grand-prix-sainz-and-stroll-crash-out-in-chaotic-sochi-race-start.1687515300528811143.html
Lance and Lando's collision during the Portuguese GP (I can accept that the move by Lance wasn't
the smartest and I can also fully understand why people blame him.) However I think so many
people jumped on this because of the Free Practice incident between Max and Lance where it was
clearly just a miscommunication and misunderstanding.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2020-portuguese-grand-prix-stroll-and-norris-collide-at-turn-1.1687510148078074772.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QJTAVnaLRI
(This is said Free Practice accident)
Kyvat flipping Lance (again you shouldn’t watch this if you cant deal with heavier crashes). Some
say racing incident, I would say more blame an Daniil but I am just happy Lance was okay
especially after Romain's accident before.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2020-bahrain-grand-prix-stroll-flips-and-crashes-after-kvyat-contact.1687510862145773128.html
2021- up against a champion
Now it's time for change! Not only is the team now Aston Martin but Seb is Lance new team mate.
And the car is well there.
In the first race Lance outqualifies Seb and not only starts but also finishes in 10th.
Imola presents a similar picture where Lance outqualifies Seb and gets 10th place. And he finishes
8th! Sure he got a 5 second penalty for leaving the track but that is still a good start to the season.
In the third race it starts to go a bit downhill with Lance qualifying in 17th and finishing in 14th , just
behind Seb in 13th.
Spain once again sees Lance start and finish in the same place, this time 11th. That qualy saw him
just miss out on P10 where he was off less than 10/1000. He had some good battles though like with
Fernando.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2021-spanish-grand-prix-stroll-wins-wheel-to-wheel-battle-with-alonso.1699487558908336755.html
The next race is good once again. Lance qualifies 13th and finishes 8th. Considering that this is
Monaco and there isn't really any overtaking opportunity, that's huge especially with Seb finishing
P5.
Baku sees well a bit of a downer. First he has his Qualy crash (Absolutely his mistake then again
hitting the wall happens to many drivers) and during his race he suffers a tyre blow out which
causes him to crash
(See the qualy crash here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txr4NfOoZys).
In France he once again fails to set a qualy time to get out of Q1 but more as a result of bad timing.
He couldn't have predicted the others would crash so no fault on him there. He even managed to set
a lap which was sadly deleted but would have been faster than Sebs. He somehow manages to get
back to 10th place just one behind Seb in the race.
Styria sees Lance qualify in P10 and finish in P8.
The next race once again sees him P10 in Qualy and then the race finishes with him in P13 with a 5
second penalty for speeding in the pit lane.
The tenth race sees him start in P15 and finish in P14 in the sprint. In the actual race he gets P8.
Hungary looks promising with a P12 start but then well carnage happens. I will comment on those
incidents in a bit.
On to Spa where he qualified P15 but was sent back to P20 as a result of the collision in Hungary. I
won't talk about this race because it was still one of the biggest jokes and bullshit things this sport
has done in recent years. Lance got a penalty for the work done under the stopped race. All in all a
weekend to forget.
Zandvoort could be promising with a P12 start. Nothing major happens, he also finishes P12. He
has a moment with Seb where Lance moves across from Seb to possibly cover him off from
overtaking him. Dangerous driving I will admit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLT3XQ96FAY
Monza sees him Qualify 12th and manage to get up to 10th during the sprint qualy. In the race he
finishes P7. He does another borderline move on Seb which I won't deny. I however feel like people
over dramatize it. For me that wasn't nice but it was still okay. The only reason why people really
criticize it so much is because you shouldn't do that to a teammate. Again I can understand why
people dislike it but that still doesn't take away from the great job Lance did that weekend,
considering he just missed out on Q3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rRMnO3mmPY
Russia is there, with a P8 start and a P11 finish. But we obviously have to talk about it. Not only did
he have a great start where he overtook multiple cars but he also hit the wall and had contact with
Seb. He hit the wall as it started to rain but he was still able to keep going. The incident with Seb is
well yeah Lance fault. But I think it wasn't so much mean spirited as more plain underestimating
space and possible struggle with the conditions. Seb even said that it was a misunderstanding and
that Lance probably didn't see or expect him there.
https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/videos/2021-russian-grand-prix-mega-stroll-start/228625209311917/
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2021-russian-grand-prix-onboard-as-stroll-slides-into-the-wall.1712063737151581609.html
Turkey has a P9 start and a P9 finish but once again shows Lance skill as it is a wet race.
The next GP sees a P12 start and P12 finish. Quiet a race though as Lance was first spun by
Nicholas Latifi and then nearly had a collision with Mazepin.
https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/videos/2021-united-states-grand-prix-nicholas-latifi-and-
lance-stroll-collide/248666900567613/
https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/videos/2021-united-states-grand-prix-mazepin-strolls-close-
call/402411924879898/
Mexico comes with a slap of penalties so qualy doesn't really matter anyway. He also crashes in
Qualy. https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/videos/2021-mexico-city-grand-prix-stroll-crashes-
out-of-quali/627086791628083/
Still a P14 finish though.
Brazil once again sees the useless sprint Qualy which manages to get Lance up from P15 to P14.
Nothing really happens in that race position wise for him so he stays P14. However he has a scrap
with Yuki which honestly was just Yuki in my opinion trying a way too ambitious move. They
actually fought quiet a bit that race. Lance retired in the race as a result of the damage he suffered from the accident in the first lap.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2021-sao-paulo-grand-prix-tsunoda-and-stroll-collide-at-interlagos.1716425125628029095.html
Quater sees Lance in P12 and he manages to get a P6 finish! A great drive from him especially
considering that he had to make his tyres last longer.
The penultimate race sees both Astons struggling in Qualy with Lance in P18. He manages to get up
to P11.
We don't want to talk about Abu Dhabi because it was a robbery and a shit show but we have to
because people keep saying it was only bad for Lewis when drivers like Lance where also
massively effected by the FIAs incompetence. He started P13 and finished that race but by god was
it a nightmare. I am just going to leave the comms between him and his engineer here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK5SbgqcjIA
My summary:
While last season showed how great Lance can be, this season was huge for him in terms of
development. Not only did he outqualify Seb multiple times but he also was incredible consistent.
Almost every race saw him somewhere between 8 or 12th with an average finish of 11th. Yes Seb has
more points but almost half of those came from his podium (which I am absolutely not discrediting
or taking away, just merely pointing it out.) If you consider that Seb has over 10 years in that sport
compared to Lance rushed into it and now being in his 5th + Seb being one of the greatest for many,
it truly speaks to Lance credit how close he was to him and how much he managed to consistently
score.
I won't deny that this however also is the season where I would argue Lance had some
questionable manoeuvres and many borderline racing incidents. This however also shows that even
with a car that wasn't great Lance was consistently in the midfield battling for points.
Here's the DNFs:
Baku which sadly was just out of his hands
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2021-azerbaijan-grand-prix-stroll-escapes-heavy-high-speed-crash.1701823437935060912.html
The Hungary chaos from multiple perspectives. You can clearly see that Lance is of course at fault
for it but he immediately recognizes that and apologizes. There's been mistranslations where it
looks like he blames Val which is not true. He knows he fucked up. Drivers look up but yeah totally
on him although I will say I first thought he was trying to avoid that carnage by going onto the
grass. In his interview after he says he possibly ran over debrief which given the carnage in front of
him isn't hard to believe. So yeah, for me personally more of a domino effect then anything.
Valtteri's bad start set a series of unfortunate events into motion.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2021-hungarian-grand-prix-drivers-react-to-turn-1-
crash.1707071583705474820.html
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.lance-stroll-reacts-to-disaster-hungarian-grand-prix-start-crash.1706899140973058269.html
2022- a shitbox in green
Another year at Aston Martin with Seb but instead of a bad car they now got a green tractor to
honour Sebs environmental perspective.
In the first race Lance qualified 19th and finished 12th. The second race sees Lance start in P15 and
finish P13 but a lap earlier due to a longer pit stop and damage after coming together with Alex.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2022-saudi-arabian-grand-prix-albon-found-to-blame-for-clash-with-stroll.1728538480607161440.html
Australia sees well a bizarre qualifying. Lance and Nicky crash during Q1 for which Lance later
gets penalized. In my opinion completely undeserved. As you can see, Nicky clearly moves over to
let cars pass which Lance then does only for Nicky to seemingly want to retake that position very
fast with a much to small gap. I don't fully blame Nicky but I understand why Lance didn't expect
him to come back so quickly and I personally see it as a bad communication example more than an
accident where you have to shift blame.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2022-australian-gp-qualifying-latifis-car-destroyed-in-bizarre-crash-with-stroll.1729611513723725817.html
In the race he manages to get back up to P12.
Imola once again has a sprint weekend which doesn't affect Lance who still remains P15. In the race
he manages to get back to P10.
The new Miami race sees Lance qualify from P10 but due to an issue he has to start from the pit
lane. And still he gets P10.
The sixth race he quallified 18th and finished 15th. He didn't really score points but he could have
scored higher had he not been spun around by Pierre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lSP08f5Slk
Next up was Monaco. Lance qualifies P18 and finishes P14. He hit the wall during the formation
lap but then again it was a wet race.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2022-monaco-grand-prix-latifi-and-stroll-hit-the-barriers-on-wet-formation-lap-in-monaco.1734171020113023239.html
Baku saw Lance qualifying 19th and not finishing. His Qualy which I will give people was bad. Like
crashing twice (also the second time was a result of the first) isn't what you should expect from
someone who at that point was 5 years in F1. However he had engine issues that entire weekend
which is also why he didn't finish so you start to wonder if they maybe played a tiny role.
His home race saw him qualify P18 again but he finally got points again with a P10. His move on
Seb was dangerous and probably cost Seb a position or two. But also, Lance start in that race was
like incredible. What a great start.
https://twitter.com/F1/status/1591574059808165888?lang=de
https://twitter.com/F1/status/1587415154936930304
Silverstone sees Lance start last and finish in 11th. A good start which saw him avoid all the chaos
in front.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7_Elsl4jGM
Austria once again sees a sprint which means he goes from P17 to P13. Nothing changed in the race
and he finished in P13. Some battles that were nice but ultimately with the Aston Martin tractor not
that great.
The next race saw Lance once again in P17 and finishing in P10. An incredible race from him and I just want to show his start because we rarely ever saw how great his starts can be and how close the
midfield is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOaKfdx6wrw
Hungary saw Lance qualify P14, finally into Q2 again. The race saw him finish P11. Considering
he got spun around at one point by Daniel I would say that's a good result.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5I-95BkUK4
Next up was Spa where Lance once again got into Q2 and qualified 14th. Because of penalties of
other drivers he started P9 and finished P11.
Zandvoort saw him even into Q3 and qualify P10 which is also where he finished the race.
Up next was Monza where he was once again starting from P17 but because of penalties got pushed
up to 12th which was very promising. Sadly he had to retire the car because of breaks overheating.
The next race had Lance start from P12 and finish in P6.
And then Japan came back. Lance only qualified P19 but finished P12. The start he had to that race
was just wow. During a wet race he not only managed to overtake multiple cars but he also just
quiet literally drove past them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwJvwpCnRwU
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/video.2022-japanese-grand-prix-lance-stroll-makes-lightning-
start-to-go-from-19th-to-p11-on-opening-lap.1746188182712421933.html
Next up was the US GP where he qualified 7th which considering he was best of the rest in a car that
was 9th fastest deserves a shout-out. Especially when it put him up to 5th because of other penalties.
Sadly his race was over rather quickly. He DNFed after colliding with Fernando.
https://www.facebook.com/Formula1/videos/2022-united-states-grand-prix-fernando-alonso-and-
lance-stroll-come-together/885762125676389/
I have seen people say that Lance move is dangerous but you are allowed to move over to defend
from an opponent, some of you need to remember that. Yes he should have moved more clearly but
there was still like Lance said enough space. I think it was just a bit misjudged which lead to the
racing incident. But yes I can see why people were to put blame on to Lance since he should have
not just moved a bit or could have defended it later. He got a penalty for his move which would be
applied in Mexico.
A penalty that I agree with because his defending was too robust and late.
Mexico saw Lance start as a result of his penalty for last race. He finished 15th.
Brazil saw him qualify 15th and finish 16th in the sprint. What he did during the sprint to Seb I'll
agree was a bad move. In the race he managed to get back up to 10th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hCpPzHBQ1k
The last race saw Lance start 14th and finish 8th.
I think looking back on it now especially comparing it to 2021 and 2020 which were undoubtedly
some of Lance best performances, it's hurts seeing 2022. There were many mistakes made by him
and I think a lot of that is also down to him just not seeming to be comfortable with the car plus
Aston just struggling in general. Lance Qualifying was definitely lacking and there is no doubt that
he clashed more with Seb than he should have. I won't say many of the incidents he had that season
reflect good on him.
However I think it's truly unfair that people would judge him based of one
season that was bad when he had a car that was nearly the worst car on the grid. It is also very clear
that controlling that car was very difficult.
I also raise the question again: How much better do we expect him to perform against Seb? This isn't me
dismissing his incidents this is merely looking at results.
How much can you really expect from Lance to be close to Seb in that car without trying to
diminish as arguably the better driver? How much can we compare their performances? Or rather
how much can we judge Lance especially when he was against Seb, a 4 time world champion, a
runner up multiple times?
If we were to merely look at results for this (which I have started before aren't everything), we will
see that really they aren't that far apart. In the races where both of them finished they are mostly
only 2-3 places apart which is interesting if you consider that Lance often qualified further back.
But, like I said results don't speak for everything so if you were to say which season was Lance
worst, I would probably say this.
I want to draw your attention now though to some positives from that season like Lance amazing
start in Japan which shows he is talented.
Or the fact that Lance got Aston Martin's highest Qualifying that season with 7th which turned into a
start from P5 after penalties of other drivers were applied. He also had the most positions gained
and was in the top 10 for most overtakes in that season.
Here are the DNFs:
This is Lance and Alex making contact which resulted in both of them out of the race. Personally a
racing incident for me as they seemingly both misjudged the space or weren't expecting the other to
turn in. I would argue it's a bit ambitious from Alex but I don't think it was penalty deserving on either end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDg9cweEbew
Side-note: I also don't know why people think Lance crashes a lot or is know for his dangerous
driving. Sure during his first season he crashed twice in free practice and had a few DNFs but
almost 80% of his DNFs are either not his fault or simple race incidents. Then again he had 2 other
free practice crashes in his second season but that doesn't make him a bad driver? The worst he ever
clashed with another driver was Seb in 2022 which I will give people. However I really don't see
why people say he is famous for colliding with others when many couldn't recall any incident that
involved him and another driver that wasn't in 2022 or the last season. He isn't memorable for bad
driving although 2022 might reflect badly on him.
So what is the conclusion?
Why did I title this document the way that it is?
That is simple to answer. I completely mean it.
In his career if we ignore 2018, Lance has had/has the following teammates:
- Felipe Massa, who was nearly a WDC
- Sergio Perez who was one of the best midfield drivers at that time
- Sebastian Vettel, a 4x WDC
and now Fernando Alonso, a 2xWDC.
People forget that not only was Lance in F1 with very little experience at an early age but he has
also had world class drivers, some regarded as the greatest as his teammates.
Not only that but he has consistently improved over the years and had rarely any bad clashes that he
was responsible for.
The worst he did was against a 4 x WDC in one of the worst, if not the worst car on the grid, a car
that he didn't feel confident in and that was hardly able to be predicated and difficult to control. That
was his worst year in F1 where a lot of the mistakes where his fault without a doubt.
But people truly forget how great Lance can perform, especially in the wet and how he dominated
Perez in 2020 until his streak of luck was cut short to no fault of his own. Not only that but he
outqualified Seb in 2021 multiple times, was more consistent than him with his race result etc.
Not to mention the things he has already achieved.
He is one of the youngest podium sitters, the youngest front row starter (all from his first season),
has multiple podiums (and would have had more if not for his unlucky streak in the later half of
2020), has a pole and has managed to be close to many of his teammates (if you don't only lock at
results.) Not to mention that even though his qualifying was inconsistent, he always had good
standout performances.
And he is one of the best starters on that grid. There are some races where he just drives past 5+
cars like it's nothing which often shouldn't even be possible with his bad car.
Yes, he was inconsistent in Qualy many times and yes he had some questionable drives but the later
can be said for almost any driver on the grid. Drivers are bound to make mistakes and also
sometimes experienced ones because it happens.
Considering how well he is doing in this season with a still healing injury, I truly do not get how he
is this discredited and underrated. When it comes to teammates he has arguably had some of the
hardest to compete against in the last years.
Not to mention he came into this sport without anyone believing he deserved there. He even questioned his own place in this sport which is bullshit considering he had enough wins and champions to warrant an F1 seat.
#f1#lance stroll#so yeah this is it guys#if anyone wants to reblog or give me feedback I highly appreciate it
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sebastian vettel in the paddock on qualifying day, canada - june 8, 2013
📷 andy hone / motorsport images
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If I had a nickel for every photo of Sebastian Vettel puckering up while sitting in his car during the Canadian GP, I’d have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice over the course of two years.
Sebastian Vettel during the Canadian GP in 2013 (bottom) and 2014 (top).
📸 Mark Sutton
#sebastian vettel#f1#formula 1#lol sorry it sounded funnier in my head for sure#but at least the photos are of great quality enjoy :3#j's.png
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Icy JAIL Break por Matthew Smith
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Early winter finds me using vacation from running trains, to photograph trains and visit family between mid December and January1st. 2013 was no exception. The previous day, over night had seen some freezing rain resulting in quite a acclamation of ice on everything and with this in mind it was going to make for some nice photography. After hooking up with a long time friend we headed south to Durand, MI. to go out looking for some railroad action, with the idea of staying around Michigan's capital city Lansing. As we headed southwest taking the backroads following the Canadian National's Flint Subdivision, we came across a few trains on our way grabbing photos. Around noon we heard on the radio that the Jackson & Lansing Railroad was going to be running south to points unknown or with what purpose for the run. With a little searching we finally found the train heading south in Holt, MI. I was slightly disappointed in the fact that they were running engine light with no cars. With 2 GP9's from parent company Adrian & Blissfield the light power move passes frozen marshes as it prepares to cross College Rd. just ahead. Leading the move is ADBF GP 9 1760. The 1760 was built in 1955 for the Pennsylvania Railroad as there 7015. Following behind is ADBF GP9 1758. The 1758 was also built in 1955 for the Chesapeake & Ohio as there 6002. With the paint on 1760 & 1758 paying homage to the NYC with the lightning stripe design, and also to the Grand Trunk Western in the green and gold colors, the units fit right at home on ex-NYC tracks as they make a icy JAIL break.
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top five formula one moments. can be very unimportant ones
2011 Canadian GP when Jenson slayed so hard he jumped 19 places and won
when daniel met max
one time i saw Toto from a certain angle when a race was red flagged and it was magic
alex in qualifying today
seb from 2010-2013
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Sebastian Vettel on the 2013 Canadian gp podium
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