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i do enjoy olivia rodrigo’s music and i think the new song is really nice, but i just wish they’d chosen a roma singer, or even an indigenous american singer, for the ABOSAS single. especially since they didn’t cast a roma actor (no shade to rachel) as lucy gray, it does feel like they’re minimizing the overt roma-coding of the covey, which is SUCH a massive layer to understanding the oppression of the capitol not just as an authoritarian regime, but as a colonizing entity of an indigenous and nomadic population
#abosas#a ballad of songbirds and snakes#ballad of songbirds and snakes#olivia rodrigo#rachel zegler#lucy gray baird#lucy gray#roma#romani#antiziganism#anti ziganism#thg#the hunger games
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vzhledem k tomu, že jsem zaznamenala obrovský zájem o téma týkající se romské menšiny v čr, tak vám představuji nový vývoj na této frontě:
konečně!!! ale zabralo jim to dost času...
//english trans.//
considering that i noticed the huge wave of interest in the topic of romani community in the czech republic, let me introduce you to the new development on this front:
[link to a czech article titled "The MPs confirmed their support for the definition of anti-ziganism, it's supposed to prevent Romani discrimination" ]
finally!!! took them long enough...
#čumblr#česky#a anglicky#romani#anti-Romani sentiment#pleasant development#put some respect on this community dammit
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anti-ziganism/anti-gypsysm is such a foreign bigotry to me that when these two families who looked vaguely hispanic started physically fighting at my work throwing purses perfume bottles etc etc my middle aged coworker whispered to me “it’s always those gypsies you know, you don’t see them often but whenever they come around it’s always trouble” i was shocked i just didn’t know what to say the way that i usually know what to say when someone’s antiblack etc etc anti-ziganism isn’t as bad as it is in europe but it’s still in the minds of white americans
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Look I go back and forth on Scottish independence about forty times a day, and I also happen to be in the odd situation of having unexpectedly ended up living in England, when I have believed for a long time that I will never consider anywhere that isn’t Scotland truly home. Most English folk have been very friendly and I’ve been pretty lucky, and the country has its own beauty, but it’s just not where I want to spend the rest of my life, though I think it’s been interesting for a while (also terrifying though, austerity’s bad enough in Scotland, it is appalling down here).
Obviously, though, I still have thoughts on Scotland’s situation, even if I’m not the most politically savvy of people. One of those though is that, while I will doubtless have my opinions, I genuinely don’t think I have the right to decide on its future when I’m not currently registered as resident in it and am not just away from the country for a short time or for good reason (study, work, e.t.c.)- other Scots in a similar situation to me may disagree but that’s just how I feel.
That being said this feeling leads me to my next point- what we are currently, if vaguely, defining as nationalism. As everyone knows, Scottish nationalism has the rare distinction of meaning something very different to British nationalism, or indeed most other uses of the word nationalism in Europe. A better word would perhaps be self-determination or really any number of other terms, but it’s not something that’s really possible to change at this stage. This is, in some ways, a recent development- while there were English-born founding members of the SNP and while people from all walks of life, nationalities, races, and backgrounds have been involved in Scottish independence movements from the start (even the thirteenth century ones), there’s no denying that Scottish nationalism, like any movement carrying that name, has more than occasionally attracted the kind of people who want to swear off the rest of the world altogether. The kind of people who will have some bizarre view of an independent Scotland as a white, ultra-capitalist, empire-denying paradise- basically a British nationalist’s dream, except this time without any English folk in it and either 100% English speaking or, more rarely, 100% Gaelic or Scots speaking depending on the individual’s weird preference.
I think most of us who voted in the independence referendum, regardless of which way we voted, would probably think of these people with some disgust. Scotland has never been perfect in its handling of bigotry- whether racial, sectarian, linguistic, or gendered- but I would hope that most of us at least want to try to be better. But so many of us are at risk of being swayed by less extreme, perhaps more subtle exclusionist arguments than the case above- perhaps the kind of insidious anti-immigrant rhetoric that’s pushed by almost every newspaper at some point or another, or the strange phenomenon of the “looks like a polite liberal except when talking about X group” (in my experience, X group is usually traveller communities, but it can also be applied to pretty much any ethnic or national group, or maybe it’s about specific LGBT+ groups instead- either way, it’s unacceptable).
Possibly many of us have said or done things we regret (or indeed NOT said something when we should have), and this extends to whole political movements. It doesn’t even have to be about Scottish nationalism- there used to be a rather awkward trend among “socialist” figures in Scotland of generalising and shitting on poorer immigrant communities too (the Irish maybe, or immigrants from the Baltic states or the Caribbean). Sometimes this stemmed from the upper classes doing what they always do and pitting ordinary folk against each other, like when poorer immigrants were used as strikebreakers, but I think we can all recognise that that doesn’t justify plain bigotry. But I digress, and I certainly think that the concept of Scottish nationalism could particularly attract this kind of behaviour again in the future, even if the current trend is more pro-immigration than it has been in the past.
And frankly that’s a scary thought. And not something we should sort of dismiss vaguely and leave to think about some other day. And to me certainly explains why some people have misgivings about independence and nationalism, just as others have misgivings about left-wingers who (though they may not have chosen it) somehow ended up sharing platforms with certain right-wing parties and (worse) extreme Unionists and Orangemen in the run-up to the 2014 referendum. But it is so hugely important that we don’t let the right split us apart because there are bigger things at stake (and parties that are even slightly left of centre are so horribly good at squabbling with each other in pursuit of ideological purity and yet screwing up their chances of effecting change- the way Scotland’s Communists, the ILP and Labour used to lay into each other in the 1930s and 1940s must have had the Tories in stitches).
So while I’m not likely to be back in Scotland for a while, and while I will never demand a vote on Scottish issues while I am not affected by those issues, and while I may not always manage to do the right thing (though I aim to, but I’m going to be limited by internalised biases and my own privilege as much as anyone), and while I STILL don’t fully understand my own position on independence, I think I can commit to one clear testament at least. For me, Scottish independence should and MUST be about where a country's government sits and how the land is to be governed, and NOT where its people were born. It would be insane and abhorrent to make a bid for self-determination by shutting people out- and I warn about it because there is always a danger that that kind of nationalism may rear its ugly head and hijack the movement, though at the moment majority opinion seems against it. And even if it’s not full on bigoted nationalism, there’s always the chance that some of the old tartan Tory types might gain control of the SNP leadership again- it’s important to establish whether we want that brand of politics is right for the main party in Scotland. To me, we could have the chance in an independent Scotland to create a fairer, kinder country, that welcomes people who want to work to achieve that, because what on earth would be the point of leaving the UK if we just become the worst aspects of the UK in miniature, complete with classism, anti-immigration rhetoric, and inequality?
So yeah. I may not know where we’re going but I think it’s about time we made a solemn covenant that, independent or not, Scots are going to work to be better, push for equality, and refuse to be swayed by the kind of hateful rhetoric that can grip any western population if we’re not careful. Work for the land we all love, and by extension the world, work to repair and apologise for the damage Scots have caused throughout history to other nations and to fellow Scots, and don’t ever let the media and politicians and our own superiority complexes allow us to prop up exploitative and unjust systems. I’m not here for an “independence” pledge but I am here for a pledge of that kind. We might not succeed but in any case we have to explicitly promise to try, because otherwise we’ll always be in danger of repeating the mistakes of history.
#Wow long post#Actually ignore me I'm rambling#I think to a lot of people this is a no-brainer but I think explicitly committing to things is important just in case#I have no great political brain I don't think it will make sense and it's a very long rant#But it was really all just to express one key thing that I couldn't properly express#I'm just tired and scared 90% of the time but we have to be vigilant#No good a) letting the right-wing split those of us who want a left of centre Scotland up over independence#and b) gunning for independence if we're going to turn around and become just as elitist and racist as we have allowed the UK to become#I have seen some of Ireland's laws- and some of the laws in Commonwealth countries- about poverty and other races#And they fill me with a deep dread#Scotland has one of the worst land ownership disparities in Europe and a history of anti-ziganism and other bigotry#The last thing I want is to see us carry those things into the future regardless of whether we are independent or not#I'm just I'm just really scared ok#Ah well that's my last word on the subject for now#Thoughts on the Thistle
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There's using the law to legalise racism and genocide and then there's this
#No surprise about it bc like... 18th century legal system#but still one of these phrases that makes me pause and go huh they really did that#anti-ziganism#history
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being able to see people's tags on the activity page now is reminding me how many people are still calling oppression of romani 'antiziganism' so here's another reminder to please not do that
the word it's based on (zigan) is a slur and the word antiziganism was made up by gadje with no connection to romani culture whatsoever. it's the equivalent of calling it antigypsyism in terms of offensiveness
you can use anti-romani racism or antiromanyism instead
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has anyone heard this/does anyone have any opinions on this? i know that antiziganism is also a term invented by romani activists so it's not like it's an exonym
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i listened to kesha’s album rainbow entirely today and it was very good
the only gripe i have against it is her using the g slur
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Allopropaganda has been really anti-semitic and anti-romani so I don't recommend giving them a platform (screenshots: calloutgoat(.)tumblr(.)com/post/145759184584/topic-anti-semitism-and-anti-ziganism-specific)
that sucks! Thanks for sharing that!
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lmao what was s*nbadism's receipts on u
They (and their lil flop friend) attempted to drag me for being “anti-zigan” bc I reblogged the song “Gy*sy Woman (She’s Homeless)” by Crystal Waters lmao like…what?
Like I get it but a song that came out like 30 years ago isn’t worth expending energy on bc what can anyone do about it at this point? Also the gag is Roma ppl also consider “zigan” derogatory but maybe they woulda known that if they didn’t try to haphazardly drag me for clout l m f a o. Then when I blocked them they really tried to make a callout post about me like…sis you have like 50 followers calm down. What a joke.
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Hello! Your blog is wonderful, I really enjoy it. I just wanted to say quickly that I am no expert at all (nor am I Romani), but from what I do know, Roma people don't use the term "antiziganism," because "zigan" is an very offensive slur that refers to the Romani people's (nonexistent) Egyptian ancestry. From what I've seen, they usually say "anti-Romani racism" or sometimes "antirromani racism." Just a heads up! I'm not trying to call you out or anything, just spreading the word. :D
Oh shit; my bad. I looked up the proper term so I could use it but I had no idea it was offensive. I'll change how I tag from now on, I appreciate the heads up.
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Anti-Semitism and anti-Ziganism have no place in the world. They are poison to your heart and you would do well to seek to destroy them wherever they are found.
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SAM WILSON IS HYDRA NOW. Also I think the phrase is anti ziganism ? But I use anti Romani racism too
Seriously
I’m done
Like I’m not done being fucking incensed, but I’m done being shocked and outraged anew every time. I honest to God believe they’re doing it on purpose now.
I didn’t think they could do anything that would make me not just glad but relieved that they killed off my faves before now but what do you fucking know
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discrimination terms
ableism: discrimination towards and oppression of disabled people, sometimes also called disableism.
audism: specific form of ableism that affects people who are deaf or have hearing difficulties, at times has been known to apply to those who are mute
sanism: specific form of ableism that affects mentally disabled people, particularly for those whom the term “insane” would apply (examples: personality disorders, psychosis, schizophrenia, etc)
healthism: discrimination towards and oppression of people with chronic health conditions (including STIs, cancer, diabetes, etc), often overlaps with ableism
serophobia: specific form of healthism that affects people with HIV or AIDS, which often overlaps into homophobia/queerphobia/transphobia
fatphobia: discrimination towards and oppression of fat people, especially fat women, sometimes called sizeism
ageism: discrimination towards and oppression of people by their age, particularly affects the elderly and minors
antisemitism: discrimination towards and oppression of Jewish people
christophobia: discrimination towards and oppression of Christians, does not apply in much of the west (US, UK, Europe, etc)
islamophobia: discrimination towards and oppression of Muslims
racism: discrimination towards and oppression of people by their race
colourism: subcategory of racism that discriminates and oppresses people by the darkness of their skin
xenophobia: discrimination towards and oppression of people by their country of origin and sometimes race and/or ethnicity; often overlaps with racism
misogynoir: a combination of racism, colourism, and misogyny; the description of the intersection of oppression between being black and being a woman
orientalism: specific form of racism that affects Asian people
anti-romani: discrimination towards and oppression of Rroma people [edit] antiziganism is a common word used, however some rroma people find it offensive because “zigan” is the german word for “g*psy”
arabophobia: specific form of racism that affects Arab people
armenophobia: specific form of racism that affects Armenian people
germanophobia: specific form of xenophobia that affects Germans
italophobia: specific form of racism and/or xenophobia that affects Italians
japanophobia: specific form of orientalism that affects Japanese people
sinophobia: specific form of orientalism that affects Chinese people
russophobia: specific form of xenophobia that affects Russian people
sexism: discrimination towards and oppression of people by gender; a synonym for misogyny
misogyny: discrimination towards and oppression of women
marxogyny: describes the tendency for anti-capitalism to target and focus on “women’s" industries and products when criticizing capitalism (big examples being fashion and beauty industries)
whorephobia: discrimination towards and oppression of sex workers, primarily affects women
homophobia: discrimination towards and oppression of gay people or gay men, but also used to describe discrimination towards and oppression of any LGBT+ person
lesbophobia: specific discrimination towards and oppression of lesbians
queerphobia: discrimination towards and oppression of LGBT+ people
difemphobia: specifically describing the discrimination towards and oppression of all women-loving-women
aphobia: describes discrimination towards and oppression of asexual and aromantic people as a whole
-- arophobia is specific for aromantic oppression and acephobia is specific for asexual oppression
biphobia: specific discrimination towards and oppression of bisexuals
-- panphobia, polyphobia, and etc can be used to describe specific discrimination for other “bi umbrella” orientations, though biphobia is the “norm” catchall term
sapphobia: specific form of biphobia that affects bi women
transphobia: discrimination towards and oppression of transgender people
transmisogyny: a combination of transphobia and misogyny; the description of the intersection of oppression between being transgender and being a woman
binarism / exorsexism: specific form of transphobia that affects nonbinary people and insists on a gender binary, sometimes called enbyphobia or nb-phobia
intersexism: discrimination towards and oppression of intersex people, also called dyadism
heterosexism/heteronormativity: describes social insistence on a male/female model for relationships, often erasing same-gender relationships’ existence, it is a companion of homo/queerphobia
cissexism/cisnormativity: describes social insistence on certain bodies, body parts, behaviours, and appearances being inherently male or female, often overlaps with sexism and homo/lesbophobia, it is a companion of transphobia
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@thornswithroses replied to your post: I am serious, as a skinny petite woman myself...
Joss Whedon is such a fucking creepo to me for that. Especially with how he treated Charisma Carpenter and all that. Like, how he handled Wanda really unnerved me as well.
Yeah, same. I’m glad people in general finally turned on him, even if I think a lot of it was motivated by MCU fatigue than anything (like, I fucking see you, people who rightly called out AoU for white/Gentile-washing the Maximoffs, but have no problem with the same being done to Quicksilver in the X-Men films, hmm, only pretending to care about anti-Semitism/ziganism when you can get fandom points for it and are in the SJ fandom majority!!). Between his fake feminism and how he treated women IRL and his fucking creepy fetishes for broken~~~ tiny women beat people up, just, yeah, gross.
I remember a lot of his female fans still defended that fetish on the basis of how stories about those kind of women need to be told and can be empowering for some, and like, I’m not going to tell people what they can or can’t be empowered by, like, you do you on a personal level, but I really don’t think those are his stories to tell as a man (especially when they’re motivated by his sexual fetishising), and there are plenty of women telling those stories much better and deserve attention.
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