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whateverthought · 6 months
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Creator's Pets That Get On My Last Nerve
Aka "Poor Baby, Never Did Anything Wrong, All Eyes on Them, Always Right"
Felicity Smoak from Arrow
Steve Rogers from the MCU
Clarke Griffin from The 100
Caitlin Snow from The Flash
Bakugou Katsuki from My Hero Academia
Hayley Marshall from The Originals
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catoscloves · 2 years
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i don't understand why t100 s5 is so unpopular in fandom because imo it was easily the best written season of the entire series??? i mean
everyone's six year glowup was fantastic. all the characters looked really attractive. clarke, kabby (their whole aging gray hair thing was hot even if they became totally unbearable hypocrites), octavia, diyoza and mccreary, spacekru... also BELLAMY'S BEARD???? hello that was awesome he truly leaned into his Cheer Dad personality
becho was one of the sweetest and healthiest relationships. lack of flashback/spacekru centric ep aside (my only complaint about s5 tbh), they got through their past differences together, in an environment where they weren't in any significant danger or participated in opposite sides of a war (which lbr was the only reason their dynamic was "unhealthy" in the first place), and they were able to prioritize their mental health and become real friends who shared things about themselves
bloodreina and diyoza were the best villains ever??? their ice cold bad bitches personalities were so fascinating to watch onscreen. i get that octavia is unpopular because of her treatment of bell in s5 but as a character she totally POPPED (also wonkru's whole blood cult thing and eligius being full of sociopathic war criminals was great entertainment material, and part of what made my s5 watching experience so enjoyable)
spacekru slowly becoming fond of each other and transitioning into a found family over their six years together offscreen was amazing. their affection and loyalty towards each other was so heartwarming, they never cared about the war, or eligius vs octavia, only being reunited and spending time in each other's company. plus the group's banter/chemistry, the memori breakup + resulting angst/raven & emori friendship, bellamy being murphy's Big Brother/bullying murphy into recognizing his self worth/respecting and valuing murphy's input to the discussion (just murphamy's developed friendship in general), marper being involved in the memori breakup because they care about their friends' happiness, the echo/monty hug and echo/murphy friendship, emori comforting echo, bellamy refusing to leave raven behind, were also total highlights of the season
k*bby betraying octavia immediately when given the chance and leaving her to deal with the consequences of the cannibalistic blood cult, abby torturing raven (a girl she dared to call "daughter) for the sake of an addiction she couldn't control....... they finally revealed their true colors and it was glorious (and kinda sad because i could not stand them as characters anymore, although at least they remained consistent in their hypocrisy)
cl*rke torturing her own friends to "protect" the daughter she placed a shock collar on (and being called out by the narrative for it/not being handed blanket forgiveness) was absolutely amazing
mccreary and abby/diyoza (even kane) had ridiculous amounts of sexual tension, it was absurdly hot
i love vincent, that cannibalist freak. he's like a feral rabid pet and it was adorable (also he put kane's life in danger which was hilarious, in the sense that it served as abby's punishment)
the aesthetic appeal of wonkru and their hunger games style feeding ritual, octavia's tyranny, it was positively fucked up :D i also loved echo's arc as a "spy," subverting her inital role in the series (something that brought her so much vitriol from fandom) and using it for a positive purpose
it was horrifying and gruesome and violent which automatically gives it five stars in my book 😌
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montyluvsjasper · 3 months
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The fact it's 2024 are we still can't discuss Clarke Griffin's martyr complex or her being a textbook nepotism baby or her taking the credit for character's of color's work every other episode.
Also Lexa's move to betray Clarke in season two by making a deal with people who viewed her and her people as sub human wasn't ever a smart political move.
Jasper dying the way he did was also extremely problematic rhetoric.
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bellamyblake · 2 years
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HI! I've read some of your meta and headcanons and because I love them I have to ask, do you think Bellamy would've still been made bad even without Bob asking for time off? What are your thoughts on it? I saw you didn't chose the easy way out like most ppl and simply call him OOC but you understood some actions in a different way.
aw, hey! that's so kind, thanks for checking out my stuff. i haven't posted meta recently cause even when i have thoughts i don't always share them but debate about it in my mind so i wont be annoying.
the short answer to that is-yes. i absolutely think bellamy would've been made the villian of the story no matter what bob asked for.
i think the season 7 storyline absolutely copies the season 3 one where the same thing happened and i think that the path here was the same.
he would've gone through what he did in Etheria just like he went through everything he did in s3 A's episodes-something painful would've happened, he would've accepted the idea of transcendence and then after making a few mistakes in which I still think, no matter how much Bob had filmed, the other characters would've acted absolutely the same-
because guess what-
we've already seen in s3, absolutely the same thing.
so they would've still hated him the same way and blamed him for everything instead of reaching out to him. and then ultimately he would've seen things from within this broken system and realized Cadogan was wrong and this is bad and made the decision HIMSELF, then helped the others out, perhaps gotten hurt (like Levitt was in that finale episode, I remember i read somewhere it was supposed to be bellamy) and then ultimately maybe ended on the beach.
that's exactly what would've happened, i have about zero doubts about it cause as i said, we've seen it already.
the problem with bellamy was never that he was OOC. that is why i see things differently-it is the way the OTHER characters see him. or more specifially, how the writers write those characters seeing bellamy.
jroth has always admitted he had a hard time writing for bellamy. that his wife often asked him about it and questioned what he'll do with him and the thing is i dont think jroth always knew what to do and when he didn't, he opted for making him lean into his darker thoughts and trust his heart when he is hurt and alone otherwise making him bad because it was easier and because he knew bob wouldn't mind playing a bad guy as he had stated he liked that in earlier seasons.
the season 3 storyline follows the absolutely same path to the season 7 one (or the one it should've been had it been developed absolutely in the way jroth wanted it to be).
bellamy is a little lost and confused, he's trying to protect his family but then instead of doing things the right way, more death follows, so he decides to trust in to those who offer another option-PIke in s3 who speaks into his grief and absolutely into the guilt he feels.
the reason why pike wins bellamy over is because unlike Kane who keeps saying none of this was bellamy's fault, because he simply cannot read bellamy the right way and clarke isn't there, pike tells him the thoughts he falls asleep with every night-it's your fault, you killed those people, you didn't save gina.
a similar thing happens in s7-deucette and the others offer a way out. if we have to be honest with ourselves, clarke and bellamy's *doing better* never actually worked and especially not in s6.
bellamy is seeing more and more that the more he tries, the worse it gets, even when he's doing his best.
seeing his first sin-his mom, who was the death he didn't want to cause but did because he let his feeling show and wanted to make octavia happy, just speaks volums to him.
i also want to mention here that there are two more people who definitely play a role in his choice to trust what they're talking about here and that are Jasper and Monty.
Jasper because he saw there was no way out of their violent ways and opted to leave the world and Monty who too, separated himself from the clarke and bellamy world and decided to live a quiet albeit lonely life with harper because he realized that IS doing better or at least living better. partly both their reasons were selfish and ultimately don't help the entire group.
what deucette and cadogan offer, do. they safe everyone. that is what bellamy wants-to help them all, it was always his goal from the moment he adopted those kids on the ground. frankly, clarke lost that somewhere, but i dont think he ever did, especially not after season 4 when he spent all those years up on the ring with the others.
i dont find him OOC. i find the story shitty, yes, absolutely but i think and i will get yelled for that but that the City of Light storyline in all honesty wasn't at all that different from the lights and finding another form of eternal life-it was just underdeveloped and ofc jroth couldn't do something like CoL again in 7 as it already existed so he made it these weird beans of light.
do you know who the only character who never was invloved with CoL or that SL from the hundred was?
Bellamy.
Do you know why? Because I don't think Jroth knew how to do that at all. he had that chance here again, to try and indulge a SL where he could perhaps put bellamy into this world. the only problem was that he doesn't know how to write bellamy into a major storyline without making him a villain or making his actions a part of some redemption ark (e.g s2 and s4).
and in all honesty, the problem was never with bellamy. it was with clarke and everyone else. because the same thing that happened in s7 had already happened in s3.
no one, not a single soul, tried to undrestand what was happening with bellamy then. clarke argued but she wasn't there and didnt see him suffer-in fact she left him and said-they are your responsibility now, something he has lived for his entire life and now repeated for 48 kids he barely got there. octavia lashed out and just wanted to leave with lincoln, have her own life, miller, harper, kane, sinclair all worked against him without understanding him. kane preached the entire time how he's making a mistake but he never once tried to speak into what he feels the way pike smartly did. monty was somewhere in the middle, ultimately turned good.
in s7, clarke, o, raven and everyone else argue with bellamy. he tries to explain himself, tell them what he saw, how it all happened, that his mom was there, that he saw something. do you know what happens?
nothing. they bash him and tell him he's nuts.
let's see some examples of the opposite:
in s 2 ep 16 clarke says-I have no choice, I have to do this.
What does bellamy do?
he covers her hand and turns the lever with her.
in 3x16-she says i have to go into CoL after taking the chip.
what does bellamy say-I trust you.
in 4x01-she says ALIE said the radiation is coming for us all.
Bellamy said-we're looking into it, I trust her.
in 4x03 Clarke says-I don't deserve to live, not after everything.
Bellamy says-Yes you do and writes her name on the list.
in 4x13 Clarke says-I think I may be dying, mom had a vision of me dying.
Bellamy says-so what? You will be okay. AFTER SHE ALMOST SHOT HIM IN 4x11 MIGHT I REMIND YOU ALL.
the problem was never with bellamy. not in s7, not in any other season. yes he is flawed that is without saying, he did make mistakes, and that is why i love him and clarke and octavia because they make mistakes.
but don't let us make the same one-that the way he sees everyone else is the same they do because it isn't and never was.
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that is the tragedy of bellamy blake.
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idk why ppl call elena selfish and always slander her it's confusing to me tbh........... like yeah main characters can sometimes be hella annoying and self-centered and elena certainly is more flawed than a surface-level interpretation would suggest but how many times has she sacrificed herself for her friends safety and lives at the cost of her own?? and been concerned with their happiness above her own? she didn't complain once about being put into a sleeping beauty spell, she volunteered herself as a lamb in klaus's ritual, she even put herself in the situation where she and klaus had mutually beneficial partnerships and negotiated on her loved ones' behalf, asking the man who killed her aunt for his help, abandoning pride, safety, and righteous hatred of klaus on jenna's, as well as her other victimized loved ones', behalf because those loved ones, would benefit (which is really intelligent and manipulative actually? and also admirable? so miss me with the bullshit about elena sitting on her ass and letting her friends do the work because if that's what you think happened we were not watching the same show). and idk what narrative bamon fans (a group which i'm also a part of) invented where elena consumed all of damon's attention and was madly jealous and insecure about the friendship because in s4 she acknowledged it (he actually kind of loves her) and seemed happy that they got along. she encouraged their relationship dynamic and did not in any way seem inconvenienced? or make bamon about herself? elena supported and understood bonnie and damon's bond and encouraged it. it's the DE fans that were the problem in their hella racist bonnie hate and targetting kat graham for "interfering," but elena did not do anything wrong.
also she never led the salvabros on, or constantly switched indecisively. she was loyal to stefan, her fidelity remained intact, not once did she cheat on either of them, she communicated her complicated feelings very clearly without any mind games, and once she was completely sure that damon was the one for her she repeatedly affirmed that he was her "real" love and their relationship/feelings were real, despite damon's doubts and insecurities. stefan was the one who encouraged her to explore her attraction to damon in s3. elena was never the problem in the triangle of doom, and anyone who makes her out to be is most likely just a bitter stefan/damon fan. if anyone was the bad person in the triangle, it was the salvabros, who stalked and harassed a 17 year old girl, refused to allow her agency and respect her decision to keep her humanity off, saw her as a possession to "fix," used the nifty sirebond to control her and remove her autonomy shamelessly, and set her on fire/locked her in a safe because she was independent of them, experienced a personality change, and no longer relied on them.
and as for the racial misogyny of the writers and their preferential treatment of caroline and elena over bonnie, that's certainly a valid criticism which should be voiced but neither care or elena actively wished bonnie harm, both were determined to protect their friend, and both truly cared for bonnie's safety. also they all relied on bonnie too much and bonnie endangered herself in helping her friends many times but that's more or less the fault of racist writers, because care and elena mourned and grieved their friend's death and hated seeing her in pain. and when you compare this to clarke griffin, the main protagonist of the 100 who accused her latina friend of attempting to poison lexa in s2, treated raven like a servant to suit her political agenda for most of the show, and left her to die/be brutally tortured in s5 to "protect" her daughter (despite said latina having already been willing to offer protection to said daughter).... clarke actively screws her friends over with the purpose of achieving her own gains, especially her friends of color like bellamy and raven. elena, while complacent in the racist treatment of bonnie, never would have pointed a gun at her and fired, left her to die in a fighting pit, or left her to be tortured.
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wikiangela · 2 years
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I've never hated a character more than those three: Karen Page, Clarke Griffin, Fitz Grant (I wanna say in this order, but tbh I hate them all equally lol)
like, through most of the shows (at least s2, usually earlier) I just could barely stand to see them on the screen, they were so fucking annoying
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prettyshon10 · 2 years
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One of the reasons I can’t take Clarke Griffin stans seriously is because they act like Bellamy deserved to be left for dead after endangering Madi (like Madi wasn’t a willing participant) but disregard Clarke endangering/attempting to kill Bellamy’s sister.
Ok, fam.
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I really hate Clarke 😡😤🤢
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darklinaforever · 6 months
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Not only was Bellarke ruined in season 7 of The 100 (while all of season 6, in particular, foreshadowed their romance), but everything else went there too. This entire season 7 is a disaster, both for the characters and the plot. It's sad.
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dragynkeep · 9 months
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apparently it was Raven who wanted Clarke to make the fucking list... I cannot stress this enough fuck Raven where was she when the list was found? i remember her being fucking nowhere nearby (or worse seeing what happens and just leaving Clarke to deal with it) and fucking Jaha convinced the mob to stand down
still fucking mad that Josephine didn't get a chance to go toe to toe with Raven and obliterate her (knowing Josephine she would probably bring up a lot of shit that happens in the first episode of season five like Clarke holding a gun to her head)
yeah, clarke was expressing concern & obviously trying not to focus always on the fact that she has to choose out of hundreds which 80 will live: & raven immediately bit back with that cunty attitude of hers that she'll fix the ark but clarke decides who lives & who dies.
which absolutely stemmed from clarke killing finn & the actions in mount weather, as well as all that happened in s3 which is so fucked up. clarke at this point has, at multiple instances, had to do the worst things imaginable to keep her friends alive including raven. she killed finn because she had no choice. mount weather was either kill them or watch her own mother be killed after they had also tortured raven for her blood marrow. in the last season she had literally lost lexa & was tortured, as well as nearly dying to keep all of them alive yet again.
meanwhile raven throughout all of these instances has tried to either make the worse choice ever (finn) or seems to forget that clarke is the reason she's even still alive to bitch at her.
in this exact episode, she's having the same dilemma with adria & luna, in clarke's exact position, & there's still no leniency towards clarke. it' infuriates me because clarke has always been the one to extend the olive branch to raven while raven spits in her face or assaults her.
watching jo!clarke tear raven apart in all her sanctimonious hypocrisy would've been so good to see because josephine is exactly what raven tries to paint clarke as. someone who revels in having that power over others, literally deciding who dies for her & which body she'll have next, & raven getting to see that would've been amazing. if only for this narrative she's conjured about clarke to be finally fucking shattered because clarke has never been that & it stemmed entirely from the fact that finn didn't love her anymore & wanted clarke & then clarke didn't sacrifice them all only to still not save finn. utterly ridiculous.
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kantimplora · 1 year
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Jaha- If I didn't support you, how did you turned out so well?
Octavia- serial killer with anger issues?
Jasper- recovering alcoholic
Clarke- genocidal
Bellamy- military psychopath
Raven- I literally make the bombs and bullets
Jaha- okay... but John is turning out okay
Miller- its like you don't even know him
Monty- he also woke up the other night screaming "Don't leave me with Jaha!"
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catoscloves · 1 year
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today's hot take: murphamy was better for bell than cl*rke/b*llarke ever was no matter how horrible they were to each other in season 1
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userlaylivia · 2 years
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rewatching the 100 again and I'm on s2 which is the best season of the show imo! and to answer your next question, YESSSSSS I am STILL BITTER about bellarke! jroth told them to play them romantically and told them they were going to get together and bob said they were supposed to end up together and both bob and eliza said bellarke were in love and are still angry they didn't get together and I will NEVER understand this show honestly never!! if you tell actors to play a ship romantically and they are going to end up together you don't change the story at last minute!! beliza didn't like romantic bellarke at the start but by S4 or 5 they saw it they saw what the fans did and started shipping them ugh I will NEVER be over bellarke as long as I live!! the best journey, development and buildup wasted and to make matters worse they had to have clarke kill him and clarke never would've done that and anyone that thinks it wasn't ooc hasn't been watching this show lol and let me be clear, I do ship clexa but they happened too fast imo and she forgave lexa too quick after the betrayal but bellarke had a whole journey and they were supposed to be endgame!! S7 doesn't exist to me this show ended with the bellarke hug in 6x13!! that's my story and I'm sticking to it!!
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heartbellamy · 11 months
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you ever think about how most of clarke’s ‘friends/family’ just really didn’t give a shit about her? how even when she attempted/threatened to take her own life in front of some of them they didn’t particularly even care? i’ll forever be bitter about how this so-called ~feminist show~ hated its own female lead so much it cared more about her torment and isolation than it ever once did about her well-being or god forbid her happiness
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"who does raven reyes think she is" yeah you're right who do women that look like raven think they are for prioritizing themselves and being allowed to lash out at the white women that put them through torture and phsyical/psychological torment to advance their agenda?? or not allowing herself to be walked over by white girls that constantly exploit but don't care about her?
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spoonstra · 8 months
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Part 5
While Clarke's position in the group/family and as leader was criticized after Season 5, the same never happened to Bellamy after Season 3. He was accepted instantly and continued serving as a leader in season 4 without anyone questioning it. Even though he'd never been the most capable leader before season 5 when he became Clarke Griffin Rebirthed. This double standard is a common theme in the 100. The same happened with Bellamy and Octavia (that's a whole other thing). Even the finale judged Clarke. She was punished for everything she did when 70% of it was for noble/selfless reasons. Bellamy might have died terribly, but he died as the hero. He was right about transcendence. Clarke is only ever tormented by everything she'd done. Either she didn't do enough, or it was never her place. Hell, she tried too hard to save Madi and ended up losing her anyway. The most tragic part though is that the Clarke Griffin I loved was gone by the end of season 4. She never regained herself. Her arc should have been about remembering who she used to be before she let the burdens she bore break her.
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