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#and equally so for Moxiety because of the most recent episodes
warcats-cat · 3 months
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For the shop asks: your favorite Sanders Sides ship if you have one (I'm sorry I don't know the fandom very well), Peter Parker/Gwen Stacy (ideally the TSM version but any version's fine), the main ship in whatever movie you've watched most recently, and... just for fun, Warren and Kestrel in Taking Flight ;)
(sorry these aren't more specific, I don't know your fandoms well enough to figure out what ships you like and I don't want to offend you by trying to guess)
Hmmmmmm some of these will be easier than others 👀
- Warren and Kestrel are A Tier perfect cannot do wrong there 💜💜💜👏👏👏
- my favorite TS ship is LAMP (Logic/Logan + Anxiety/Virgil + Morality/Patton + Prince(aka Creativity)/Roman) followed very closely by just Moxiety (Morality/Patton + Anxiety/Virgil).
Unpopular opinion I just don't like Janus/Deceit and Remus/"Intrusive Thoughts"/Dark Creativity; they rub me the wrong way. I ship the two of them together but I prefer to keep them separate from the "Core Four". Hence my fics focus a lot more on the core four, although I have plans to add the Dark Sides to the Long Road Home series in the next update for that series. [Long explanation is long I hope it gives you a little context 😅]
- Peter Parker/Gwen Stacy is cute! I know very little about them! I don't know what TSM means! I've heard of an MJ at some point which I assume is an alternate universe girlfriend? TLDR from the little I have absorbed over the years they seem like a cute couple 💜
- Believe it or not the movie I watched most recently was Pride and Prejudice and Miss Bennett/Mr Darcy will probably always be my first ship and what I base at least half of my romantic fantasies on so they also get to go in A Tier.
Thank you for the ask 😍 no offences here; if you or anyone asks me about a ship I don't know about I will always give my honest opinion, so I hope that is ok in turn 😅
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ironwoman359 · 6 years
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Learning New Things About Ourselves
 Observations, thoughts, and screenshots! 
(under the cut, because spoilers and also LONG)
Patton: “Take it from me. That’s not the way to work out your feelings.” Oof, you really can see Patton’s growth in this episode, he’s so much more aware of himself now. 
Patton: *gasp* Logan!!!!
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“It’s Patton!”
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Oh my goodness, he’s so excited to see him, Logan, acknowledge him, he’s so happy to see you. 
Logan and Roman are acting like they haven’t even made the progress they have recently, that’s how you really know something is off with Thomas. 
Thomas: Uh, guys? *makes the face*
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Patton: “*gasp* I know that face!”
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“My child is returning”
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Virgil: Thomas you have got to do something about this!  Thomas: But this is what they always do. Right? Oof, Thomas, even if so, that’s not good. You need to help them solve their issues, or there’s never going to be any peace around. 
Patton is so aggressive in his love for Virgil, it’s so cute. And AWWWWW, Virgil gave Patton a dad themed nickname! That’s so precious, my moxiety loving heart is so happy right now! 
AAAAAH, just look at them, they’re best friends and I love it so much. 
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(also mood with the arm thing, Thomas)
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Virgil’s just all Roman, you’re an insecure moron, Logan, you’re an inconsiderate jerk, can you both just COOL it now? I do love that now, Virgil acts much more often as the “common sense we need,” like, lately he’s been an identifier of a lot of the problems and now that he’s actually listened to, it makes things go way smoother. 
Roman: “I’m not insecure!” Yes sweetie, yes you are.
R&L: I’M THE MOST IMPORTANT SIDE HERE! Everyone’s faces omg:
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Virgil: “All I’m saying is you both suck at what you do and I’m tired of having to keep lighting fires under your butts.” 
Also, typical, Roman is trying to defend himself, Logan took Virgil way too literally, and Virgil is making gay jokes until Patton calms them all down. 
Patton, my hero, knowing how to get each of them to shut up, I am so using that in future fics. 
They all zero in so quickly on what Patton gives them:
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(Also look at Patton’s face, this is like, a rare moment when he shows off how powerful he actually is. Not just as a strong influencer in Thomas’s personality, but like, he knows them all so well. He knows how they all tick, he knows their feelings better than they do, and he knows exactly how to calm each of them down. He probably also knows exactly how to work each of them up, too, but he doesn’t because he’s Good. This just...it makes me think of human aus where Patton is somehow able to get the whole school to listen to him or retaliates against bullies, and I love it.) 
Happy, distracted bois.
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Roman the artist, you’re doing amazing sweetie, wow.
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Patton figuring all this out is my jam, tbh. 
You can see the gears turning in his head, and then he has that AhHa! moment, and he doesn’t have the answers, but he knows that’s okay, they just need to do some soul searching to find out what the question is. 
And the others don’t get what he means, but LOGAN, the smart one, he realizes! He understands, and he comes SO close to saying “Patton, you’re a genius!” that it physically hurt me. (I think Logan is afraid, in that moment, but I’ll leave that analysis for another post) 
Logan is so dang proud of himself for that hat. 
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Thomas: How did I used to learn things? Logan: Textbooks. Roman and Virgil: Mistakes. Patton: Puppets!!!  I do find it telling that Virgil and Roman both claimed mistakes as Thomas’s biggest source of learning. It not only highlights their tendency to work together on things such as acting and creating, but also how much they both think about their own pasts...I think it’s safe to say that the two of them are more introspective than Patton and Logan. Patton has learned to be more introspective and aware of himself with time, but for both Roman AND Virgil, that constant inner thought process is at the core of their function. No wonder they gave the same answer to that question. 
Virgil immediately jumping to Patton’s defense, “OR we could hear him out! He’s already made ONE valid point today.” I love how protective Virgil is of Patton, and again, I’ll probably go deeper on this in another post. 
I like how this keeps the canon from the other shapeshifting video, that Virgil has a harder time shapeshifting than the others. I also love how he immediately was like “Nope, nope, I can’t pull this off this was dumb” until Thomas reassures him. 
Patton: “You know what happens when you assume! You make an AS out of SU and ME!”  Patton has the dirtiest sense of humor out of all of them and NO ONE shall convince me otherwise. 
Logan throwing that flashcard, yikes.  
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So much anger, but also so much instant regret.
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Honestly, I think he’s really scared of himself right here, and it’s no wonder that he offered to leave before he could make things worse. But then when Patton refuses to let him leave again (he remembers what happened last time), he seems so surprised, as though he hadn’t expected Patton to care about his opinion enough to ask him to stay. 
Patton is so on the right track here, jumping STRAIGHT to talking about feelings, even though the others don’t like that idea, he insists, knowing that it’s the only thing that will really help them. 
When Thomas expresses that he feels unworthy of feeling bad, Patton shoots that down, knowing it to be unhealthy. I also feel like the line “It’s not your feelings job to make sense,” isn’t just about emotions, it’s about him too. He knows he’s silly, he knows he doesn’t always make sense (especially the way Logan wants him to), but he also knows his worth as a part of Thomas. And he’s going to do his job, dang it. 
I like how Virgil calls out both Logan AND Roman equally in this, both telling Logan to cool it with the deadlines, but also agreeing that Roman hasn’t been performing adequately. I also like how Virgil isn’t right throughout the WHOLE video too, I mean, he’s wrong right here, trying to fix the issue he sees on the surface without first examining the underlying emotions, because that makes him, Anxiety, uncomfortable. 
When Logan insists that no one is listening to him, Thomas then says, alright, I’ll hear you out. What should we do? 
I love the way that Patton, yet again, was the one able to guide Thomas to the question he needed: Am I doing the right thing with my life?
Logan: “If you asked me, I could list several factors that could be contributing to your doubts.” *looks around the room* 
I love that Virgil finally is just like “woah, Logan, what are some of those things?” He knows that’s what Logan wants, and that he’s not going to continue until he hears that verbal validation. 
Virgil the Count. 
“NO ONE TAKES YOU SERIOUSLY!” “Four. Four uncomfortable characters. In this room.” 
Logan is very concerned about Thomas’s image (and also his own) and you can TELL he’s been thinking about this for some time, but been holding it back because, despite how concerned he is, the others seem happy. So he’s held in what he thinks. But he can’t do that any longer. 
“You eat some jam, accidentally tell a few puns and now you’re all sensitive about not being taken seriously?” “I’M NOT A JOKE!” Someone hug him.  He even flat out SAYS that right now, he’s not being listened to. “I can’t be thought of as such, because there will be times in which I must be heeded, and given our current circumstances, I clearly haven’t been.”
Virgil validating Logan’s opinions even as he expresses his disagreement. 
Virgil: “Don’t start with me Thomas. I have plenty of hate to go around.”  Patton: “Oh very funny Virgil, you cute little muffin. Thomas, you know he doesn’t mean it. Now––”  After this, you can see Virgil’s puppet reel back a little, and it’s a testament to how good the puppeteer is because you can tell that that statement...actually hurt him a little. Sure, maybe he won’t HATE Thomas, but he does sometimes still use the scare tactics to make his point, and in some ways, Patton undermined his point by brushing off his tactics. 
Virgil and Roman having a snark off, I am living.  Roman also realizing when he’s gone too far and admitting his flaws, I am so living.
Roman: I do feel bad.  Virgil: Well then maybe you should say you’re sorry.  Roman: You’re right.  Virgil: Oh, really?  He was so surprised when Roman admitted he was right, and even though he thought that apology was for him and it turned out to be for Logan, I think it’s telling that Virgil is still sometimes surprised when Roman admits that his point was good. 
Roman apologizing is so sweet.  “I still feel bad.” Patton knowing that if he lets Roman express himself in a way he’s comfortable, ah, I just love this whole sequence. 
Roman calling Logan and the others his loved ones <3 
The look Logan gives Patton when Patton starts sing/rapping about how he used to hide his feelings:
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Aaaaaaa my heart look at him. 
Patton: “Everybody gets sad, even dads who have people to care for,”  Patton cares so much for the others my heart is so full. 
Virgil participating in the song happily and voluntarily, so much growth since Christmas!!!
Virgil: “I thought that I could take it, all the hate would just be shaken, but when you lo– CARE for someone, not much hurts more than their scorn. I also felt bad.”  Roman: “Oh, come now–”  I just, love everything about this. Virgil’s lines, him almost saying love, but changing it last second, Roman literally reaching out to him, it’s just all so perfect <3. 
The music shifting into minor when Logan interrupts with his frustration, and YES, his and Thomas’s duet is fabulous. I get major Lin Manuel Miranda vibes from their section. (thank you @digitally-analog for the transcription.)  Thomas: This just serves as testament to the fact you have a temperament which is fine, you just haven’t accepted it. If you let them finish they’d get to the– Logan: This just serves as testament to the fact that to me, you’re negligent which is fine, it just works to your detriment. You not letting me finish is just proving my– 
Virgil: “HEY! ... You’re lost. It’s okay. I was lost once too,”  Virgil pulling through for them, YES, and I love how he’s able to just so clearly let the others know what they’re feeling sometimes. “You’re lost,” it reminds me of when in Patton’s room, he said “You’re afraid.” Patton may be most emotions, but those kinds of emotions are ones that Virgil is very familiar with, and ones he can spot easily in his friends, and ones he doesn’t want to see them go through the way he had to.
Virgil: No one wants to be a joke, T, R & P: but a life without jokes is incomplete! 
Roman’s bits, omg. 
Thomas: It’s alright, Princey, honestly it didn’t hurt me, it’s clear you’re the one who’s hurting.  Roman: Huh?  I just, someone take both him AND Logan to therapy, they are so emotionally unaware. 
Virgil: “You feel low.”  Coming through again with that problem identifying. 
P&V: “We embrace you,”  Roman: “That’s rich.”  Virgil (gently): “No one hates you.”  I think it’s so important that this line comes from him, because of all the sides, Roman probably feels like Virgil has the most justification to hate him, but here his is quietly reassuring him. 
Roman and Logan FINALLY talking to each other, THANK YOU 
And Logan realizing that the song was actually part of the conversation, and not random like he thought, you go you silly nerd, you’re getting it! Logic is always there, even in the methods that he doesn’t necessarily understand, and that the silliness and dramatics that Patton and Roman love can still be intelligent. 
“Why did I never question people’s belittling views on what I do?”  THERE IT IS THOMAS YOU GOT IT!
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Nice DHMIS reference. 
Logan and Roman making up aaaaaah yay. Thomas and Virgil are so proud! 
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Virgil telling Patton how he feels, but trying so hard to do it in a way that won’t hurt Patton’s feelings. I’m so proud of him. 
I’m so proud of ALL of them, they did so good. Thomas did good. Character Thomas and real Thomas, this video was amazing, and I loved it. That’s it for this post, but there will be more to come!  –Taylor <3
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