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because-its-eurovision · 1 year

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hey !! i was thinking about whether this year’s esc winner is already set in stone and the likelihood that käärijä could still manage to bag the win with a majority televote score …

i was feeling kind of nervous about it all but then i thought back to 2021 - (i haven’t watched it in a while so correct me if i’m wrong,) but did måneskin get that many high scores from the jury? I don’t think they got many 12 points there at least? (maybe just enough to get a rather average jury score i can’t remember)… they had some 12’s tho i think.

… obviously måneskin absolutely dominated the televote so i was wondering if there could be a similar situation in 2023 as to 2021, as 2021 had some hugely competitive acts and it was a nail biter up to the last minute ✨ (i’m tryna remain positive to manifest this win ahahah 💆🏻‍♀️)

This is one of those asks that lighted me up with need to answer with a thousand-word essay 😄 My take on why these cases are different and why Sweden is the winner Eurovision 2023 under the cut 👇

How to win with televote

Your arguments about Måneskin winning are correct. Italy got a set of 12 points from the Slovenian (neighbour), Croatian and Georgian juries but their average jury score was only 5,42. Both Italy 2021 and Ukraine 2022 won thanks to televote despite being only fourth in the juryvote. Here’s my explanation.

In 2021 the differences between jury favorites weren’t that big. Switzerland had 267 points, France behind them 248 points, Malta 208 points and Italy 206 points. Juries tend to go for artistic ballads but televote rarely shares that sentiment, so Switzerland’s “flop” was predictable. Malta is the biggest jury favorite in Eurovision history so their lower placing in televote wasn’t a surprise either. France did well in both components, deservedly so, and over all placed second behind Italy by only 25 points.

In 2022 Ukraine landslided the televote by getting exactly 200 points more than Moldova who came in second. They got an astounding average of 11,26 points from every country’s televote, and I don’t think we’re going to see a result like that for a while if ever. I believe that Ukraine would have won last year anyway, but understandably the war had a huge effect on televoters.

Sweden vs. Finland

Juries love Sweden. Or rather, Sweden has learnt to send entries that fit to the jury taste. These are the Swedish results from the last ten years: 2012: jury 1st, tele 1st 2013: jury 3rd, tele 18th 2014: jury 2nd, tele 3rd 2015: jury 1st, tele 3rd 2016: jury 9th, tele 6th 2017: jury 3rd, tele 8th 2018: jury 2nd, tele 23rd 2019: jury 2nd, tele 6th 2021: jury 17th, tele 11th 2022: jury 2nd, tele 4th

Eight times of ten, jury has loved Sweden more than televoters. Of those eight, they have placed Sweden in their top-3 seven times. Of those seven, they have won three times.

However, the juries' attitude towards Finland is very different. Since the juries came back in 2010, Finland has failed to make it to the final thanks to juries three times (2010, 2015, 2017) when the televote would have been enough for qualification. In comparison, here are our results from the last ten years.

2012: jury 12th, tele 12th in semi (NQ) 2013: jury 18th, tele 20th 2014 jury 7th, tele 17th 2015 jury 16th (last), tele 10th in semi (NQ) 2016 jury 12th, tele 15th in semi (NQ) 2017 jury 12th, tele 10th in semi (NQ) 2018 jury 24th, tele 21st (in semi jury 15th and tele 7th, thanks to televote 10th combined and qualified) 2019 jury 16th, tele 17th (last) in semi 2021 jury 11th, tele 4th (in semi jury 6th and tele 1st) 2022 jury 22nd, tele 16th

Why Sweden is the frontrunner

Just going into the contest, Sweden is almost guaranteed jury support. By looking at the results from previous years it is safe to say Loreen is going to be the jury winner. There is a slight possibility that we get a surprise jury winner like Austria in 2018 and North Macedonia in 2019. However, that would require there to be a clear jurybait song with great vocals, most likely a powerful ballad with innovative staging, and as far as I see, there are really no contenders for that this year. Who could surprise us? Switzerland, Spain, Estonia? Maybe Ukraine because their entry this year is so much slicker and more modern?

I'd also like to point out that in 2021 the jury winner placed sixth in the televote and in 2022 fifth. That is not going to happen in 2023. Loreen is a former Eurovision winner, fan favourite, charismatic, great singer and performer, the staging shows something never before seen on Eurovision stage (assuming they’ll bring the led screens with them to Liverpool) and Tattoo is already a huge hit so it’s not going to be too artistic or boring for the casual viewers. Sweden isn't even a country anyone would vote against for political reasons. I can’t see Loreen placing outside televote top-3. She can easily get over 300 points from the juries (average of 8,34).

Can we trust the odds?

There are years when neither the betting odds or fans have no clear idea which country is going to win, but those are in the minority. We’ve had some out-of-nowhere winners like Austria 2014 and Portugal 2017, who only begun to shine during the rehearsal week, but the way I see it that 2023 is going to be like 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2015, 2018, 2019 and 2022 when the odds got the winner right weeks or months before the contest. As far as I can remember, the odds have always managed to predict a Nordic winner 😄

People have been pointing out to me that the odds might be wrong and Finland still has the chance to win despite being second in the odds. I do worry that the betting odds are failing us this year, but for a different reason. My concern is that thanks to the Käärijä hype that has been going on in Finland since January has made lot of Finns bet for their own country. In 2015 the night before the first semi final Pertti Kurikan Nimipäivät was sixth in the odds to win the whole contest, only to end up in last place of their semi.

It is not often that Finland believes in their own chances in Eurovision, but when we do it sometimes makes us blind for what is realistic. Not everyone making Eurovision bets is familiar with how the juries usually vote and how that might effect the overall result. Not to mention that despite Finland being second in the odds behind Sweden, their winning chance is now 40% and ours only 15%.

Personal prediction

Please keep in mind that I’m not an expert of betting odds nor Eurovision, just a fan with a love for statistics 🙃

As for Finland, just qualifying let alone a placement in top-10 is of course an amazing result for us – hell, we’ve never even qualified more than twice in a row! My wish is that we could somehow crack into top-5 for the first time ever (2006 not taken into account). There is a possibility that we could win the televote (depending on running order) but juries are going leave Käärijä outside top-10, which means our placing is around 6th/7th in the overall results. Juries rarely care about silly upbeat songs especially if they are sung in native language and based on that I see Finland going the same route as Moldova 2022 (2nd in tele, 20th in juries, 7th combined) or Norway 2019 (1st in tele, 18th in jury, 6th combined).

Sweden wins. Loreen either wins both the juries and televote or placing in second/third in one or both of them. We might have a different jury winner (Spain? Switzerland?) or televote winner (Finland? Norway? Czechia?) but it doesn’t matter because they both flop in the other component (still placing in top-10 though).

You can quote me May 14th 2023 🙂

#I'd love the winner to be anyone but Sweden more than anything #Czechia has never won #Spain hasn't won since 1069 #*1969 ooops 😂😂#Georgia and Armenia have never won #France hasn't won since 1977 #they came close in 1991 and lost to SWEDEN by a TIE-BREAKER ONLY :)#please feel free to comment who could be the dark horse this year in either tele or jury vote because I'd LOVE to see one!#eurovision #asks

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artistkakan · 1 year

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Due to procrastination I have compiled a list comparing the jury's number one with the televotes' favorite in esc since 2009 when the jury were reintroduced cuz,, uhh,, statistics are fun?? Idk, I'm pretty sure someone's already done this before, but whatever lol

The order is Televotes' Winner - Jury's Winner (Actual Winner)

2009: Norway - Norway (Norway)

2010: Germany - Germany (Germany)

2011: Azerbaijan - Italy (Azerbaijan)

2012: Sweden - Sweden (Sweden)

2013: Denmark - Denmark (Denmark)

2014: Austria - Austria (Austria)

2015: Italy - Sweden (Sweden)

2016: Russia - Australia (Ukraine)

2017: Portugal - Portugal (Portugal)

2018: Israel - Austria (Israel)

2019: Norway - North Macedonia (Netherlands)

2021: Italy - Switzerland (Italy)

2022: Ukraine - UK (Ukraine)

2023: Finland - Sweden (Sweden)

2024: Croatia - Switzerland (Switzerland)

Of course with reservation that I could be wrong lol

#eurovison song contest #eurovison 2023 #eurovision #esc #esc 2023 #esc23 #eurovision song contest 2023 #eurovision winners #uhh idk what else to tag #this is so out of the blue lol #not at all my usual stuff

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petvles · 1 year

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I promise im going to sleep soon but dear Finnish friends, we (the Dutch) were also robbed back on 2014, and won a HUGE victory 5 years later with Arcade in 2019

You'll get your due and hopefully we'll abolish those horrible juries soon, i cant wait for what you bring to esc next

You were robbed this year but you WILL take the crown from Sweden once again

thank you for a lovely esc 2023, Käärijä truly made this week so much better for me 💚💚💚

#eurovision #jani chats

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eightfifteen · 1 year

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Attention European girlies,

#byler #esc #mike wheeler #will byers #eurovision #stranger things

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lil-scout-precure · 7 months

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Junior Eurovision 2023 detailed opinions before the show. Part 4 (final)

After three parts, we're finally here! The final part of my tier-ranked opinions of the Junior Eurovision 2023 songs before the big day at Sunday, November 26th! 12 songs were already covered, from the decent (in a good way) to the almost winner-alerts, with some personal wildcards in the middle. Now we are left with 4 of the 16 songs, these ones being the top of the top of my personal favorites! And days before the main show!

The opinions on these songs will be longer than the others, but it's just I have a lot to say about them! :D

Let's show the tier-chart reference one last time, shall we?

Tier 1: "Very nice of them to invite Junior Eurovision to their concert"

🇮🇪 Jessica McKean (featuring legend herself Sophie Lennon) "Aisling"

Ireland is one of those countries that somehow fail to get a good spot (or even a Grand Final spot itself) in adult Eurovision, something strange knowing they won 7 times before the 2000's (and now Sweden ties them); but when they play in the Junior version, they get better placings (if not Top 5) compared to their adult counterparts (Poland and Georgia are another examples, with the first either giving decent masterpieces or the worse things to ever touch adult Eurovision soil for their JESC counterparts to surpass, and the latter with more undeserved low places/NQs than the previous one *cough, cough, Iru Khechanovi* and having their JESC counterparts to avenge them). And recently, it looks like their JESC broadcaster had been making a better job with a trio of Celtic songs than their ESC broadcaster's elections.

After the marvelous and eye-catching song that was Sophie Lennon's "Solas" in Yerevan that got a 4th place behind Mariam, Nare and Lissandro; no wonder the Irish delegation wanted to make a good election of their next singer (and ofc, the song) to reach victory. And boy, they kept their mood with this year's song

Why did this new Celtic-Irish song went above Ohne Worte, you ask? Well, first, the melody (once again) it's something that makes its job and lets Jessica's voice get along with it with the mesmerizing Irish lyrics, co-written by Sophie herself alongside other composers who made the 2019 and 2022 JESC Irish entries. While slower than Solas, it still gives the vibe of a magical and mystical song that really tells "it's from Ireland" more than the adult ESC entries.

When I watched the song reveal with the videoclip from TG4 (before the JESC YT channel XD), it was something beautiful. The eerie yet pretty castle, the landscapes, Jessica's princess vibes....And just of nowhere, when I thought I had seen everything, the final verses come in and THEN THERE IS SOPHIE IN THE CASTLE! Yes, you heard me, Sophie fricking Lennon in the videoclip, and singing with her partner the ending! Not only she wrote the lyrics (and invited the Wild Youth fellas to her concert during the Eire finale XD), but also OFFICIALLY joins Jessica in the entry, both studio and LIVE! As one of Sophie's fans, this was something I NEVER EXPECTED IN THE SONG. One thing is lyrics writing, but THIS IS TAKING THEIR LEGACY TO ANOTHER LEVEL! :D ;w;

For two legends together, the staging and live harmony is REALLY THE KEY for Ireland to get the victory they almost got in Yerevan! And knowing they sing 4th after Kvitka, I REALLY EXPECT them to blow the stage and at least have ALL THE LUCK I would wish for them! As the officially declared "ending of the Celtic JESC trilogy of 2019, 2022 and 2023" by the Irish delegations, I hope they end this cycle with honor, and at least brings a new start for Ireland in Junior Eurovision (and hopefully the senior one, because Sweden will kick them from their winner pedestal more sooner than expected if they don't step up. Seriously)

🇪🇸 Sandra Valero "Loviu"

As a fellow Hispanic, I ALWAYS expect the best from Spain in both contests (a language bias, since here in LatinAmerica we don't have Eurovision yet, junior or senior T-T). And while most of them are, well, not my style, there are some I hold dear in my heart: El Chiki Chiki, Amanecer, SloMo (and how not to love her? Chanel IDOLA!) and Eaea (still singing it, even if being another Big 5 robbery that hurted me a lot in Liverpool, and the worst of all with ONLY 5 TELEVOTE POINTS. Darn on the card system, sabotaging my credit payment in the website voting!) for the adult songs; and Antes Muerta Que Sencilla (campeona la María Isabel), Marte, Pa'lante and Señorita (a baby king following Chanel's Latino vibes ;W;) for the Junior!

And this year they didn't dissapoint again (even with HoD changes from RTVE)! They brought another queen to the JESC list, Sandra Valero, with her upbeat song "Loviu"

For all the expectatives I imagined for the Junior Eurovision Spanish song, this one blew me! So happy, so Junior-flavored (without being too sugar-coated), so catchy even for those who don't speak Spanish, so moving (and needed with the ballad parade)! I can say a lot of things of this song, but there is character limit in the posts, so I'll stop now. And Sandra giving it the nostalgic childhood vibes in her acting and voice! The imagination she conveys, her kindness and her energy...The second time I felt a Junior song very close to my native language (Señorita did it first).

I will threatPLEAD France TV (host broadcaster) to not chicken out with Sandra's staging. The swing of the videoclip MUST BE THERE, even if from a low height for security measures, because it's not like dealing with Loreen's 1.8 kg panini press, Blas Cantó's moon or Brunette's LED platform, it's UN JODIDO PINCHE COLUMPIO (and they previously put a ring-swing for Tanya's song in Paris 2021, so no excuses). The train and the clouds can be optional and they can innovate, but for everyone's sake don't ruin Spain's chance to win (more than they could already have since they perform FIRST) or I will burn France/j. And for those Hispanic fellas from here, remember to vote for Sandra! :D

🇳🇱 Sep & Jasmijin "Holding On To You"

As Netherlands was one of the first countries to begin their pre-selections for their JESC 2023 song, I played the Junior Songfestival 2023 song-snippet video as soon as Fan Del Junior Eurovision Song Contest streamed it in YouTube. And of the four songs, I got two favorites: one of them being Duron's "Magic" with a nice and catchy rhythm that would be fit in the Junior essence (even if they massacred his song at the live performance for the JSF Final T-T, like it happened to Kazakhstan's "Jer-Ana" in 2022). But alongside him, there was ONE song that spoke for me, in high volume and no doubts, "we are THE song for Nice", and managed to keep into the first place of my list for a VERY LONG TIME (before the next song occupied their throne)

This is, with no discussions, the most EDM and dance-inciting song I've ever heard and expected its victory before the great show in a Junior contest, let alone a Dutch JESC song after years of calm and chill songs such as Luna's "La Festa" (her 7th place by performing first is the sole reason I hope Sandra slays the stage this year to not suffer the same fate), Ayana's "Mata Sugu Aō Ne" (the robbery of 2021, a REAL robbery!) or even Ralf Mackenbach's "Click Clack" (both a JESC winner and now a plasma physicist...THE FUTURE THIS LAD GOT O-O).

Sep and Jasmijin's vocals are no doubt, harmony itself displayed in this AMAZING entry. And not only in the studio version, but also live in the Finals of Junior SongFestival itself! The lyrics telling a story of a friendship that could become something else between two souls, in a child-friendly yet effective and addictive! And the JSF staging, being a prototype of the Grand Finale version to see soon, it's so connected to the entry itself, and both not only swept the national jury and online voting with 12 points each, but also spoke "winner" from miles.

For the staging, as the JSF version was related enough with the song, it needs some serious changes if they want to elevate it to Nice (and to check what to do with the dancers since the 6-people-max rule of staging counts in Junior Eurovision too). Otherwise, and with an advantage of being the final song to perform this Sunday, I can see them winning (if there are no obstacles) and I will be happy for them (well, any of the Tier 1 and 2 songs, honestly, I love them). (well, at least they can make Dutch Eurovision champion Duncan Laurence feel better after his own ESC 2023 duo flopped at their own song since the pre-parties XDXD)

🇦🇲 Yan Girls "Do It My Way"

We reached the last song of the list!

Let's start with the country itself, Armenia. They are recently getting better in the adult Eurovision (Snap, Future Lover) and more than they were of perfect in the Junior edition: One winner being Vladimir Arzumanyan in 2010 with "Mama", another in 2021 being Malena with the JESC's Euphoria "Qami Qami" (alongside her 2020 song "Why" she couldn't sing in JESC 2020 due to conflicts happening in Armenia more than the pandemic, and the song itself not speaking other things than those ;w; T-T), and a runner-up of Nare's "Dance!" in 2022 (and the entire country at her side during the voting before Lissandro surprisingly won). And of course they couldn't lower their guards for this year again in France!

After a long run of mostly ballads revealed in the song list, and after my recovery of Poland's videoclip, this song is what I never thought I would need to listen in the Junior playlist and yet, by leagues, became my Top 1 election to win the contest at first listen!

From all the genres I thought Armenia would bring it on for Nice (anything but more ballads, knowing their Eurovision competitive spirit), K-Pop was definitely not in my list! And yet, even if not being a fan of the genre itself, "Do It My Way" made me head-bang and tap my feet while I heard it for the first time! The five girls' voices really give the feelings of this special song, from the calm beginning to the dance-breaking choruses, combining Armenian with English in the song so perfectly with their dance moves and the entire videoclip that it feels like an authentic K-Pop song that famous groups could create!

Even if like most cases in this list, I can't understand most of the lyrics without a translation (since it's mostly Armenian by EBU 70%-national-language rule to avoid English overusing like it happens in the adult Eurovision), the energies they deliver make it a good song. And it really speaks "being authentic to one self, to break the rules and do anything you want!" not only by the English chorus, but also the voice styles!

I know it will a bit more difficult for the Yan Girls to mix their dance moves with perfect live singing during the grand day unlike a studio video (same for the props and lights displayed in the clip), but I can tell by their videos (before the Opening Ceremony, not the rehearsals, I'm not fond of rehearsals as they're spoilers for me) they are ready to get a Top scoring, and maybe even repeating the "Armenia wins in France, and France wins in Armenia" cycle of victories we had since 2021!

Yes, I know it's sort of a polemic declaration since most of the ESC fandom is not too eager for them (or France itself) to win again with so many options and newcomers, but still, I won't be mad imo if they get a third trophy and tie Georgia in the winner list!

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And with this, I officially declare this JESC 2023 tier-ranking detailed opinion compilation finished! All of the 16 songs covered and reviewed!

If I have to talk about the contest itself, I got some opinions:

I'm a bit bummed there's no rock songs in this edition like in 2022 (Anos 70) or 2021 (Specchio) and others in previous years. And no, "Un Mondo Giusto"'s rock-chord finale doesn't count. It has to be a song of those vibes from beginning to end. But well, K-Pop covered that void in the list :D!

I'm surprised there's not a single boy solist in this edition. It's the "Cure Wing among the other Cures" situation in this edition, because there are three boys, yes, but in groups (Georgia, Oto and Nikoloz) or duets (Sep); and most of the singers are girls! XD

At least the running order is a bit decent this time. Germany is not first to begin (finally!), Spain is not a bad song to open the show (and we have televote on our side), and Netherlands can end the evening so fine

If the rumours of La Zarra not being a guest interval (like Barbara Pravi in 2021, Rosa Linn in 2022) are true, I will be sad, but yet comprehensive (since they say it was because she wants to rest from Eurovision after the kerfuffle, and the middle finger cancelled her in France, and so on...). But at least I hope the guests are some good singers!

And that's finally all! Hope you enjoyed this compilation! See ya next time! :D

#esc cause why not #junior eurovision 2023 #jesc 2023 #random shit #nicky's chatter

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mindastardust · 1 year

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My thoughts regarding the esc 2023 final/results

Okay, I’ve had some time to think about this (and actually sleep a bit) and this is my (probably a bit disorganized) thoughts on the situation. (I’m from Sweden, so I’m a bit biased, but I’ve done my best to give a fair answer/judgment to everything that I’ve seen)

1. The blatant misogyny and racism

The amount of misogyny and racism directed toward Loreen that I’ve seen is truly disgusting. I’ve read things that seemed like direct quotes from the Swedish democratic party (aka the racist party) and that’s never, ever okay. It’s completely fine to dislike the song/the number/the singer we still need to treat them with the bare minimum of respect.

2. This is not the first time (and probably not the last)

This is not the first time a former winner is back. A recent example (that I also have seen other people talk about here) is Alexander Rybak who returned in 2018. I’m well aware that he didn’t win but he did win his semi-final and was, for a while, one of the favorites that year. And I don’t remember people campaigning against him for a whole week for that? I have seen some people talk about how his entry was fine since it was clear that he “didn’t even try to win and was just having fun”. I can’t find any source confirming this but I can find one interviewwith Loreen where she says that winning again wasn’t her main motivation for returning. And still, I see Loreen being accused of only caring about winning and being annoyingly “fake humble” (again, see 1).

Also, quite a few times in the past ten years, the televoting winner and the overall winner have not been the same. For example, the last time Sweden won, Måns only came third in the televoting category and this hate storm was mysteriously silent. Same thing 2016 and 2019, when Jamala/Duncan won in neither the televoting nor the jury votes but still won overall.

3. What is Eurovision about and who is it for?

Finland’s entry this year (and most years to be fair) is funnier than Sweden’s. Tattoo is not meant to be a funny song and Sweden generally sends more “normal” (or boring, if you prefer that word) pop songs rather than the more colorful, camp songs that most of us fans have come to associate with Eurovision. Do I think Esc would be more fun if we actually tried to send songs like that? Yeah, I do. I’d love for that to be a thing. Unfortunately, as esc works right now, it’s not the most “effective” thing to do if you want to win. As boring as it is, the more “normal” pop songs generally perform better than the more camp/crazy/creative ones.

We also need to remember that most of the 200 million viewers aren’t us. They are not live-blogging the whole show on Tumblr. They causally follow the show, most of them probably watching only the final. To call Tattoo “jury bait” is fine, cause it’s 100% true. To call it “normie bait” is less so. It implies that those more casual viewers (who might prefer music similar to “normal” pop rather than “classic esc camp”) don’t have the same right to an opinion as the “true esc fan” (whoever that might be). It also brings us to the question of how to identify that true fan. OGAE (the network of esc fan clubs) perhaps, who organizes the OGAE fan poll each year? But since Loreen won that one this year, I’m guessing that’s not a solution that’s good either.

Yes, Käärijä won the public vote (with quite a big margin) but Loreen came in second place and to act like everyone who voted for her doesn’t deserve to have an opinion is trying to silence quite a lot of people.

4. Was Eurovision rigged?

You all do realize that some of you sound a bit crazy, right? We clearly did not bribe the jury nor (do I believe at least) was this whole thing planned before the competition began. At best (if you want a conspiracy), Melfest (Sweden’s national competition) was rigged so that a “good artist” (in this case Loreen) would win with a very ESC-friendly song so that Sweden could have the highest chance possible of winning. Do I think this was the case? No. I don’t have any proof that our television network didn’t plan this. At the same time, no one else has any proof that they did.

5. So what now?

Loreen played by the rules and won. You are allowed to think the rules (the jury) suck (I can assure you that several Swedes hate the international jury we have at our Melfest each year). Should the rules change? I’m open to that. The rules have changed many times before and it might be high time for another change. There’s certainly much to gain in terms of goodwill by removing the jury right now. Also, kick out Israel while you’re at it. The fact that they’re still allowed to compete is disgusting.

TLDR; If you want to criticize Loreen (or anyone else), do it without being racist or misogynistic. Remember that former winners have been back before and that other entries than the televoting winner have won before. Realize that we Tumblre fans might not be the typical esc viewer. I personally don’t see how esc could have been rigged for Sweden to win and I do believe Loreen (and Sweden) played 100% by the rules, but I can agree that if those rules cause this much outrage, they might be due for a change.

#esc23 #eurovision

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residentraccoon · 1 year

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Back in July last year I did some blind predictions of this year's eurovision so I'll just list all of them here lmao, enjoy

• Host city will be Glasgow or Manchester.

• Albania: Ethno ballad a la Theje (FiK 2022)

It was Liverpool lawl

It was indeed an ethnic ballad, but it wasn't exactly like Theje. Just typical Albanian in Eurovision song

• Armenia: A pop song with a bit of ethnic influences, probably won't qualify.

Sike, Brunette qualified, and the song does have a bit of ethnic elements in it. Pretty spot on.

• Australia: Something pop like We got love.

Nah, electro rock instead.

• Austria: Tired of NQ-ing so they send a great ballad with power vocals trying to imitate rise like a phoneix but in the end they qualify and score on the right half of the scoreboard.

They qualified, and they did have a right-scoreboard result. Another good prediction.

• Azerbaijan: Sends a girl with a weak pop song (a la Falling Stars, Moldova 2016) with half-swedish half-azerbaijani songriting that either borderline qualifies or nq's for the first time since 2019.

It did NQ, but it wasn't a girlie pop by swedes, this time it was completely made by the artists themselves.

• Belgium: Will probably send a dark ballad that changes tempo at the bridge. Really no idea for them.

Nope, no dark ballad this time, but a funky disco gay anthem lmao.

• Bulgaria: After years of doing so well BG will probably get their downfall. Will probably send a balkan ballad in english that won't qualify

Bulgaria withdrew.

• Croatia: Steps up their game and chooses Mia Negovetic (internally or wins the nf with changes rules and revamped) and scores in the top 15. Not sure on the genre, probably will be similar to her 2020 entry.

Croatia this year was extremely different 💀 but they indeed got top 15 in the end.

• Cyprus: sends a hot guy with an uptempo song written by one or two swedes trying to imitate Sweden's success. Doesn't qualify.

Partly true, it did qualify.

• Czech Republic: Will originally state they won't participate in esc 2023 but their decision will be changed in the last minute and will compete. They'll go with an uptempo song again and most likely place top 15. Before the contest the odds will say they won't q but will be a surprise Q.

It's pretty uptempo, placed top 10 even but the whole time the odds said they're a definite Q sooo this was again pretty spot on.

• Denmark: NF will remain the same, nothing will change despite the weak recent results. Their song will be fully in english and it will be a mid tempo song. They'll place around 20th.

Breaking my heart was pretty uptempo actually, and no, they didn't qualify.

• Estonia: They will send a female singer with a calming slow song, in the style of Med haekanddi sol or Calm after the storm.

It's a slow song sung by a girl, but it wasn't the same genre as the 2 stated above, just a power ballad.

• Finland: Gets again a top 10 result with a rock, meme-y song.

UMMM this one is VERY close. It was a metal meme-y song that got in the top 3. I was close with this one.

• France: Selects Pauline Chagne or LMK internally, or another female singer. Will place in the top 15.

Female singer, yes. But it was just outside of the top 15.

• Georgia: Will have a pop feel good song with a few georgian lines. Will qualify

Nope, not at all oof

• Germany: Sends a pop rock song and will place around 16ish.

They got last again 💀 but yeah, pretty close with the genre

• Greece: Sends a girl for the 7th time in a row and doesn't qualify. Song will be in english.

Song was in english but was sung by a boy. And it didn't qualify.

• Iceland: Remains strong, sends something in the style of Turn this around and places Top 5.

Iceland NQ'ed.

• Ireland: Sends something strong and emotional, with empowering lyrics. Will qualify.

Empowering lyrics yes, but it didn't qualify lol.

• Israel: Fuego style song lol. Top 15.

WOAH VERY CLOSE. It was similar to Fuego with it being a girl bop with lots of choreography, and got a top 3 result.

• Italy: Sends a weak entry but won't be in bottom 5. Will place 18ish.

Sike again, Top 5 with a ballad.

• Latvia: Either sends Justs or someone with an indie pop. Qualifies.

OMGGG another close one!! Justs was in the national final, and Sudden lights were an indie (rock) pop band. And they were pretty close to qualify but in the end...yeah.

• Lithuania: No idea for them. But I see them qualifying.

Yup, they were in.

• Malta: Continues the streak of cheap pop songs. NQs.

It was a pop song (not cheap though) that didn't qualify.

• Moldova: Same as Malta, will choose something extremely basic (such as Stay, Moldova 2019) and NQs.

Completely different lol. But I did guess the title of the Lithuanian entry so yay!

• Montenegro: Borderline Qs with an ethno bop.

Montenegro withdrew.

• Netherlands: First NQ since 2015. Will send something in the style of Montenegro 2016.

I guessed the NQ, but not the genre, it was a polar opposite one (aka ballad)

• North Macedonia: Qualifies and gets top 10. No idea for the song but will probably be something opera pop or just simply opera.

North Macedonia withdrew.

• Norway: Sends a girl with an emotional ballad sung in cursive. Qualifies.

It was a girl, and she qualified but no cursive sung ballad. They had one in the national final though (Elsie Bay with Love you in a dream)

• Poland: Sends something in the style of Paranoia from their NF.

Nope, they are both pop but come on, Paranoia is light years ahead of Solo 💀

• Portugal: Sends fado but people won't like it and will place bottom 5 in the odds. At the actual contest it either does very well or doesn't qualify.

They did send something ethnic Portuguese a bit, and it got bottom 5 in the final.

• Romania: Will choose Olivia Addams via internal selection with a song in the style of Sugar by Natalia Gordienko.

Nah, not even close.

• San Marino: No idea. They're so unpredictable.

I laughed 😂😂 they got a dated dad rock with cheesy lyrics in a broken english.

• Serbia: Balkan ballad probably.

We got epic boss battle with an electro beat instead lmfao

• Slovenia: Sends something with a lgbtq message since they just legalised this year the same sex marriages.

WELL- the music video had included a bit of that and it does have a bit of vibes, this was eerily close lol??

• Spain: Contines Benidorm Fest and gets another good result. Will send something catchy like Rayden

17th is more of a decent result but no Rayden style song.

• Sweden: Goes back to basic hot guy pop song. Top 10

Nope, we got Loreen lol

• Switzerland: Sends something very memey with yodelling and people will compare it to Yodel It. NQ

Completely different entry, emotional ballad about war

• Ukraine: Either places bottom 5 aka "host country" curse or wins the 2nd year in a row. Might be wrong and biased af but I can see them having a win streak like Ireland had in the 90s

Yeah, not the case. They did beat the host country curse.

• UK: Places high once again thanks to TaP music. Or at least I hope so.

Bottom 5 💀

#txt #eurovision

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idiotlittleme · 1 year

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So for summery of the last chaotic period (aka esc being esc) - here are the songs that will probably stay with me from esc 2023

Mama SC! / Let 3 (Croatia)

Tattoo / Loreen (Sweden)

Cha Cha Cha / Kaarija (Finland)

Unicorn / Noa Kirel (Israel)

Future Lover / Brunette (Armenia)

Heart of Steel / Tvorchi (Ukraine)

Tbh in retrospect I can say that it wasn't a strong year (for example comparing to 2021 that was one of the best, or even to last year that had its fair share of "big shots" to remember). Nevertheless, it's not one of my least favorite years. (I save this space for 2016 & 2019, and in some extent even 2020 that other than The Mamas & Benny Christo, was more of a "potential-grower" for 2021). In any case, this is it for me. Will be back next year with more esc craziness. See you then :)

#eurovision #esc #esc 2023 #summery

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mirai-desu · 1 year

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if there's nothing left of you and me there's nothing left of me: An Ode to the Amazing Songs We Lost in the Eurovision National Final Season 2023

YouTube Playlist Here

National final season always means that we lose some fantastic songs that won’t ever get to grace to the big ESC stage, but I can memorialize all the other tracks I love here. This list contains the songs that got away, as well as some of the guilty pleasures, and songs I simply enjoy listening to, from the NF season of 2023.

Note that this is my personal taste, so I might be missing something you jive with. Songs are arranged by flow, not in a ranking. Some videos I likely will have to replace with another upload at some point. I went with studio recordings to be consistent (barring the bonus track).

This playlist is in no way meant to put down the actual winners.

Playlists for past years: 2019 | 2020 | 2021 | 2022

Tracklist below:

Ulrikke Brandstorp – “Honestly” (Melodi Grand Prix - Norway 🇳🇴 )

Kristín Sesselja – “Terrified” (Söngvakeppnin - Iceland 🇮🇸 )

Jon Henrik Fjällgren, Arc North feat. Adam Woods – “Where Are You (Sávečan)” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Patty Gurdy – “Melodies of Hope” (Unser Lied für Liverpool - Germany 🇩🇪 )

Harmonija disonance – “Nevera (Lei, lei)” (Dora - Croatia 🇭🇷 )

The Starlings – “Rollercoster” (Eurosong 2023 - Belgium 🇧🇪 )

EYJAA – “I Was Gonna Marry Him” (Dansk Melodi Grand Prix - Denmark 🇩🇰 )

Damir Kedžo – “Angels and Demons” (Dora - Croatia 🇭🇷 )

Eline Thorp – “Not Meant to Be” (Melodi Grand Prix - Norway 🇳🇴 )

Neon Letters & Maiko – “ときめき (Tokimeki)” (Eesti Laul - Estonia 🇪🇪 )

Rūta Mur – “So Low” (Pabandom iš naujo! - Lithuania 🇱🇹 )

KRUTЬ – “Колискова” (Vidbir - Ukraine 🇺🇦 )

Vanesa Sono – “Aroma jonë” (Festivali i Këngës 61 - Albania 🇦🇱 )

Tril – “Break It” (Melodi Grand Prix - Norway 🇳🇴 )

Janek – “House of Glass” (Eesti Laul - Estonia 🇪🇪 )

Colapesce, Dimartino – “Splash” (Festival di Sanremo - Italy 🇮🇹 )

m els – “So Good (At What You Do)” (Eesti Laul - Estonia 🇪🇪 )

Gebrasy – “Saw Your Ghost” (Pabandom iš naujo! - Lithuania 🇱🇹 )

Nordman – “Släpp alla sorger” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Maria Celin – “Freya” (Melodi Grand Prix - Norway 🇳🇴 )

Rovena Dilo – “Motit” (Festivali i Këngës 61 - Albania 🇦🇱 )

Moisei – “I'm Not Alone” (Vidbir - Ukraine 🇺🇦 )

Lazza – “Cenere” (Festival di Sanremo - Italy 🇮🇹 )

Nicklas Sonne – “Freedom” (Dansk Melodi Grand Prix - Demark 🇩🇰 )

Megara – “Arcadia” (Benidorm Fest - Spain 🇪🇸 )

Erma Mici – “Kozmosi i dashurisë” (Festivali i Këngës 61 - Albania 🇦🇱 )

Steven Roho x Gabriella x Formația Albatros – “LELE” (Selecţia Naţională - Romania 🇷🇴 )

Princ – “Cvet sa Istoka” (Pesma za Evroviziju 23 - Serbia 🇷🇸 )

Melanie Wehbe – “For the Show” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Angelina – “Stronger” (Vidbir - Ukraine 🇺🇦 )

René Miller – “Concrete Heart” (Unser Lied für Liverpool - Germany 🇩🇪 )

Boris Subotić – “Nedostupan” (Pesma za Evroviziju 23 - Serbia 🇷🇸 )

Emil Henrohn – “Mera mera mera” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

JONE – “Ekko inni meg” (Melodi Grand Prix - Norway 🇳🇴 )

Fifi – “Stop” (Festivali i Këngës 61 - Albania 🇦🇱 )

ELYSA – “Bad Philosophy” (Eesti Laul - Estonia 🇪🇪 )

Đana – “Free Fallin'” (Dora - Croatia 🇭🇷 )

Agoney – “Quiero arder” (Benidorm Fest - Spain 🇪🇸 )

Enxhi Nasufi – “Burrë” (Festivali i Këngës 61 - Albania 🇦🇱 )

Chérine – “ça m'ennuie pas” (Eurosong 2023 - Belgium 🇧🇪 )

Benjamin – “Hoida mut” (UMK: Uuden Musiikin Kilpailuun - Finland 🇫🇮 )

Stefan Shy – “Od jastuka do jastuka” (Pesma za Evroviziju 23 - Serbia 🇷🇸 )

Dominik Dudek – “Be Good” (Tu bije serce Europy! Wybieramy hity na Eurowizję - Poland 🇵🇱 )

RODAN – “Introvert Party Club” (ESCz - Czechia 🇨🇿 )

INGER – “Awaiting You” (Eesti Laul - Estonia 🇪🇪 )

Ocean Drive – “Take You Home” (Selecţia Naţională - Romania 🇷🇴 )

Victor Crone – “Diamonds” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Lelia Jane – “Wild” (Eurosong 2023 - Ireland 🇮🇪 )

The Starlings – “Oceanside” (Eurosong 2023 - Belgium 🇧🇪 )

Eirik Næss – “Wave” (Melodi Grand Prix - Norway 🇳🇴 )

Meler – “No nos moverán” (Benidorm Fest - Spain 🇪🇸 )

Hunter Falls – “Ooh La La” (Eurosong 2023 - Belgium 🇧🇪 )

Famous – “La Lola” (Benidorm Fest - Spain 🇪🇸 )

Markus Riva – “Forever” (Supernova - Latvia 🇱🇻 )

Filip Baloš – “Novi plan drugi san” (Pesma za Evroviziju 23 - Serbia 🇷🇸 )

Marcus & Martinus – “Air” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Kuba – “You Do Me” (Tu bije serce Europy! Wybieramy hity na Eurowizję - Poland 🇵🇱 )

Tananai – “Tango” (Festival di Sanremo - Italy 🇮🇹 )

Melodajn Mancaku – “Gjysma e zemrës sime” (Festivali i Këngës 61 - Albania 🇦🇱 )

Kate Gulbrandsen – “Tårer i Paradis” (Melodi Grand Prix - Norway 🇳🇴 )

Mr. Rain – “Supereroi” (Festival di Sanremo - Italy 🇮🇹 )

Alfred García – “Desde que tú estás” (Benidorm Fest - Spain 🇪🇸 )

Sara Kapo – “Para teje” (Festivali i Këngës 61 - Albania 🇦🇱 )

Sandra Lyng – “Drøm d bort” (Melodi Grand Prix - Norway 🇳🇴 )

Edmundo Ináico – “A festa” (Festival da Canção - Portugal 🇵🇹 )

Nađa – “Moj prvi ožiljak na duši” (Pesma za Evroviziju 23 - Serbia 🇷🇸 )

CONNOLLY – “Midnight Summer Night” (Eurosong 2023 - Ireland 🇮🇪 )

Markéta Irglová – “H A P P Y” (ESCz - Czechia 🇨🇿 )

Anduel Kovaçi – “Malli” (Festivali i Këngës 61 - Albania 🇦🇱 )

José Otero – “Inviernos en Marte” (Benidorm Fest - Spain 🇪🇸 )

Atle Pettersen – “Masterpiece” (Melodi Grand Prix - Norway 🇳🇴 )

Cugini di Campagna – “Lettera 22″ (Festival di Sanremo - Italy 🇮🇹 )

Tennessee Tears – “Now I Know” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Swing’it – “Prohibition” (Melodi Grand Prix - Norway 🇳🇴 )

Amia – “Puppet” (Selecţia Naţională - Romania 🇷🇴 )

Pam Rabbit – “ghosting” (ESCz - Czechia 🇨🇿 )

SISSI – “Lighthouse” (Eesti Laul - Estonia 🇪🇪 )

Alicja Szemplińska – “new home” (Tu bije serce Europy! Wybieramy hity na Eurowizję - Poland 🇵🇱 )

Agnè – “New Start” (Pabandom iš naujo! - Lithuania 🇱🇹 )

Andrei Duțu – “Statues” (Selecţia Naţională - Romania 🇷🇴 )

Justs – “Strangers” (Supernova - Latvia 🇱🇻 )

James Louis – “DREAM” (MESC 2023 - Malta 🇲🇹 )

Andrada Popa – “No Time for Me” (Selecţia Naţională - Romania 🇷🇴 )

Iole – “Sul tetto del mondo” (Una Voce per San Marino - San Marino 🇸🇲 )

Toms Kalderauskis – “When It All Falls” (Supernova - Latvia 🇱🇻 )

Patricia Gasparini – “I Will Wait” (Dora - Croatia 🇭🇷 )

maia maia – “Beautiful Bullshit” (Dansk Melodi Grand Prix - Demark 🇩🇰 )

Paola e Chiara – “Furore” (Festival di Sanremo - Italy 🇮🇹 )

Paulina Paukštaitytė – “Let Me Think About Me” (Pabandom iš naujo! - Lithuania 🇱🇹 )

Wiktoria – “All My Life (Where Have You Been)” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Elodie – “Due” (Festival di Sanremo - Italy 🇮🇹 )

Brooke – “Checkmate” (MESC 2023 - Malta 🇲🇹 )

April Ivy – “Modo Voo” (Festival da Canção - Portugal 🇵🇹 )

Adriana Moraru – “Faralaes” (Selecţia Naţională - Romania 🇷🇴 )

Loulou LaMotte – “Inga sorger” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

LDA – “Se poi domani” (Festival di Sanremo - Italy 🇮🇹 )

Gabrielius Vagelis – “Šauksmas” (Pabandom iš naujo! - Lithuania 🇱🇹 )

Daniel Schuhmacher – “Skin I'm In” (Una Voce per San Marino - San Marino 🇸🇲 )

KUUMA – “Ylivoimainen” (UMK: Uuden Musiikin Kilpailuun - Finland 🇫🇮 )

Eliana Gomez Blanco – “Guess What” (MESC 2023 - Malta 🇲🇹 )

Casanovas – “Så kommer känslorna tillbaka” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Manjola Nallbani – “Duaj” (Festivali i Këngës 61 - Albania 🇦🇱 )

AIDAN – “Re��ina” (MESC 2023 – Malta 🇲🇹 )

Ronela Hajati – “Salvaje” (Una Voce per San Marino - San Marino 🇸🇲 )

Robin Packalen – “Girls Like You” (UMK: Uuden Musiikin Kilpailuun - Finland 🇫🇮 )

Fabrizio Faniello – “Try to Be Better” (MESC 2023 - Malta 🇲🇹 )

XGIOVE – “Fuoco e benzina” (Una Voce per San Marino - San Marino 🇸🇲 )

Siderland – “Que esclati tot” (Benidorm Fest - Spain 🇪🇸 )

Maja Hyzy – “Never Hide” (Tu bije serce Europy! Wybieramy hity na Eurowizję - Poland 🇵🇱 )

Le Deva – “Fiori Su Marte” (Una Voce per San Marino - San Marino 🇸🇲 )

Frida Gold – “Alle Frauen in mir sind müde” (Unser Lied für Liverpool - Germany 🇩🇪 )

Signe and Hjördis – “Edelweiss” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Sigga Ózk – “Dancing Lonely” (Söngvakeppnin - Iceland 🇮🇸 )

Jessika – “Unapologetic” (MESC 2023 - Malta 🇲🇹 )

Kiana – “Where Did You Go” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Tijana Dapčević – “Mamim” (Pesma za Evroviziju 23 - Serbia 🇷🇸 )

Smash Into Pieces – “Six Feet Under” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Felivers – “Never Back Down” (Tu bije serce Europy! Wybieramy hity na Eurowizję - Poland 🇵🇱 )

Sunstroke Project – “Yummy Mommy” (Etapa Naţională - Moldova 🇲🇩 )

CHEGI & Braća Bluz Bend – “Svadba ili kavga” (Pesma za Evroviziju 23 - Serbia 🇷🇸 )

Will Church – “Hold On” (Unser Lied für Liverpool - Germany 🇩🇪 )

BRAGI – “Sometimes the World's Against You” (Söngvakeppnin - Iceland 🇮🇸 )

Maria Sur – “Never Give Up” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Aliona Moon – “Du-mă” (Etapa Naţională - Moldova 🇲🇩 )

Frajle – “Neka, neka” (Pesma za Evroviziju 23 - Serbia 🇷🇸 )

Elov & Beny – “Raggen går” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Milan Bujaković – “Fenomen” (Pesma za Evroviziju 23 - Serbia 🇷🇸 )

Theoz – “Mer av dig” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Esse Povo – “Sapatos de Cimento” (Festival da Canção - Portugal 🇵🇹 )

Paul Rey – “Royals” (Melodifestivalen - Sweden 🇸🇪 )

Bonus Track: BEDWETTERS – “Monsters” (Live @ Eesti Laul - Semi Final 1 🇪🇪 )

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ferociouslycreativemystery · 2 years

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So having concluded that this is absolutely 100% a stone-clad Eurovision reference in the book:

Here, inevitably, are some cursed ineffable husbands edit ideas—ESC edition:

Still in Love with You - Electro Velvet, UK 2015

Hard Rock Hallelujah - Lordi, Finland 2005

Playing with Fire - Paula Seling & Ovi, Romania 2010

Främling - Carola, Sweden 1983

Requiem - Alma, France 2017

Better the Devil You Know - Sonia, UK 1993

The War Is Not Over - Walters & Kaza, Latvia 2005

That's What Friends Are For - The Swarbriggs, Ireland 1975 (I need to see Aziraphale and Crowley in those outfits asap)

Slightly less cursed:

Love Is Forever - Leonora, Denmark 2019

L'enfer et moi - Amandine Bourgeois, France 2013

Waterloo - ABBA, Sweden 1974 (though particularly the Swedish version)

Making Your Mind Up - Bucks Fizz, UK 1981

All Kinds of Everything - Dana, Ireland 1970

E' de' det här du kallar kärlek - Lasse holm & Monica Thörnell, Sweden 1986

Det börjar verka kärlek banne mej - Claes-Göran Hederström, Sweden 1968

Absolutely bloody brilliant:

The Worrying Kind - The Ark, Sweden 2007

Outlaw In 'Em - Waylon, Netherlands 2018

Amar pelos dois - Salvador Sobral, Portugal 2017

Nygammal Vals - Lill Lindfors & Svante Thuresson, Sweden 1966

Full youtube playlist

Honourable mentions:

No Prejudice - Pollapönk, Iceland 2014

Take Me to Your Heaven/Tusen och en natt - Charlotte Perrelli, Sweden 1999

If Love Was a Crime - Poli Genova, Bulgaria 2016

A Monster Like Me - Mørland & Debrah Scarlett, Norway 2015

Congratulations - Cliff Richard, UK 1968

Too Late For Love - John Lundvik, Sweden 2019

El Diablo - Elena Tsagrinou, Cyprus 2021

Fallen Angel - Tix, Norway 2021

Why Me? - Linda Martin, Ireland 1992

Rhythm Inside - Loïc Nottet, Belgium 2015

Alcohol is Free - Koza Mostra & Agathon Iakovidis, Greece 2013

Bonus, for Madam Tracy and Sargent Shadwell:

Jezebel - The Rasmus, Finland 2022

#I may have gotten slightly hyperfixated...#can you hear me giggling through the screen?#bonus for me: Fairytale - Alexander Rybak (Norway 2009)#good omens #eurovision #maddie's go tag #maddie's esc tag #maddie debrief

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salted-caramel-tea · 2 years

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anyway before i go . top 10 esc songs ever imo

1. zitti e buoni (italy 2021)

2. fairytale (austria 2009)

3. think about things (iceland 2020)

4. spirit in the sky (norway 2019)

5. rise like a phoenix (austria 2014)

6. euphoria (sweden 2012)

7. heroes (sweden 2015)

8. sound of silence (australia 2016)

9. fai rumore (italy 2020)

10. waterloo (sweden 1974)

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because-its-eurovision · 1 year

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hello friend I have decided on my top 5 ESC entries this year and I need your psychic witchcraft skills to tell me which ones are gonna do well and which ones will break my heart because they'll be slept on </3 :') my top picks being Finland (obviously), Slovenia, Switzerland, Moldova and Romania 😌✨

hello friend very nice yes yes <3

Ok, this is based on the songs themselves, the charisma and live singing skills of the performers, their spot in the semi, the current betting odds and my gut feeling that's usually wrong :') Most of the stagings are still a mystery as the rehearsals only start in a week. Here we go 👇

Romania: Dead on arrival, unfortunately :< I see no way of this qualifying. Early in the running order on one of the worst spots, their bestie Moldova is in the other semi, the national final performance is messy, trashy and confusing and it's mostly sung in a language nobody understands. Theodor seems lovely but even "cute boy" votes aren't going to help as he is against Denmark, Cyprus, Greece and Slovenia.

Moldova: I believe in Moldova! They are often overlooked by the fans and betting odds and then blow up the televote on Esc stage seemingly out of the blue, last year being the most prominent example. Pasha is charismatic, a great singer and has Esc experience beforehand. Moldova is more often than not great with staging and I see them qualifying with ease as they only have to beat five other countries. Outside top-15 in the final though, maybe like 18th or 19th place? Just a guess.

Switzerland: I've been told people will be taken back because the lyrics seem hypocritical coming from a neutral country, but lyrics have never had that much meaning as most of the viewers hear the song for the first time on the night, and half of Europeans don't speak English at all, not to mention fluently enough to understand sung language on the first try. The first semi has only 15 songs and only two of them are pure ballads, this and the Netherlands. To put it lightly, the latter has not been great at the pre-parties 😶 Remo on the other hand may be the best male vocalist this year. I see Switzerland qualifying with flying colours and getting a high jury score like Austria 2018, Netherlands 2019 and Switzerland 2021. Could even win juries, but not the whole contest.

Slovenia: Cute, funny and charismatic guys that the fandom has fallen in love with <3 Great vocals, great energy on stage. Their spot in the running order is not ideal and the other ex-Yugos Croatia and Serbia are in the other semi, but they do perform after Poland which counts for something. There are many worse perfomances in their semi so I believe they'll qualify. No idea about their placement in the final though. Maybe around 20th, but could surprise us with a great result.

Finland: Most likely wins televote in the semi, getting 12 points from at least Norway, Sweden, Netherlands and Germany. Depending on the spot in the running order and how much, if at all, Sweden's new staging is going to affect their chances, I see this going two ways. Either the juries go their usual route of hating a silly Eurovision-y uptempo and destroy the chances by placing Finland outside top-ten like they did with Moldova 2022 and Norway 2019. OR they could appreciate the performance, melody and originality of Cha Cha Cha just enough to place it in third or fourth place like they did with Israel 2018 and Italy 2021, and that combined with a landslide-ish televote win would mean Finland winning. I still think Sweden is going to win, but Finland hasn't ever even qualified three times in a row and just getting in the top-5 would be incredible. Even top-3 is still in the realm of realism, but of course Käärijä would deserve to win it all 💚

#I LOVE ANSWERING THESE #now it's a good time to confess that I've never gotten the winner right #the televote winner yes #but juries throw us some curveballs from time to time #asks #eurovision #2023

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