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#Honey Sugarman
grrrenadine · 5 months
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Time's arrow neither stands still nor reverses. It merely marches forward.
A tribute to "Time's Arrow", one of the best episodes of BoJack Horseman.
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dittomoon · 10 months
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So, I drew this back in October 2021 but only shared it on the BoJack Horseman Reddit - I liked the idea of lining up the diamonds in Bojacks family tree, ending up with Hollyhock breaking away from their family trauma. I only realised after the sketch that Honey doesn’t have a diamond but I still wanted her to be at the top.
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dongslinger--420 · 13 days
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No I'm not done actually. Morally grey characters in BoJack Horseman are one of the main themes and as a result I don't believe anyone is 100% bad or good. But I think this especially applies to Joseph. I see a lot of videos with him where people comment that they used to kind of like him and see him as sympathetic until they watched Times Arrow or until they finished The Old Sugarman Place or something, but the fact of the matter is that if Joseph were evil, he wouldn't have been happily married. If Joseph were evil, he would've lobotomized his wife at the first chance he got, but the thing that people keep forgetting is that he very specifically lobotomized Honey because she was PROVING TO BE AN ACTIVE DANGER TO THE LIFE OF HIS DAUGHTER. Sure, he only had one solution to this problem, but he waited until the last possible moment to use said solution.
Also, just think about it. A man who tortures the women he's close to, just because he's horrible and never bothered to think how they would feel? We already have a character like that in the show, who is portrayed as a parodic caricature. But a man who is 100% a product of his upbringing, never thinking of trying to be anything else? A man who, despite this upbringing, still loves his wife and daughter? A man who has such a misguided view on how to support said wife and daughter that he believes that destroying his daughter's possessions and lobotomizing his wife is as thoughtful and helpful as teaching his daughter to stand up for herself against her bullies, and standing up for his daughter against his wife?
Spine-chilling.
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jiaorenscove · 17 days
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believe it or not, times arrow neither stands still nor reverses. it merely marches forward.
@the-ghost-king // tapestry, cecilia blomberg // cleopatra, the lumineers // andrew wyeth // death's master, tanith lee // honey and beatrice sugarman, bojack horseman season four episode two: the old sugarman place // the raven cycle, maggie stiefvater // decaying cabin near robinson summit, us 50, nevada, 2020 // as it was, harry styles // too much love, katja kemnitz // bojack horseman season four episode two: the old sugarman place
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kindheart525 · 3 months
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Parallels…
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arrgh-whatever · 1 year
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bojackandherb · 2 days
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This song has Honey and Crackerjack vibes
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senseigarmfan · 2 years
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little bea trying to comfort her mama ,,, :(
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honeycookiepie · 6 months
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When we're talking about losing the context why aren't we talking about Honey Sugarman. Why don't we mention how she can't remember, how she's so fractured but she touches the piano anyways and plays the first note in their song. She's so close so far. She can barely grasp the past but her body moves faster than her mind. Don't love anyone as much as I loved Crackerjack but that love is distant and she can barely understand it. She knows she loved him but she doesn't know how to love? How could you not know she had scarlett fever? How could she remember how to love? How to be. How can she be a mother when she can barely remember her song. Her love. What is she? Who is she?
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dongslinger--420 · 11 days
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🔥Honey Sugarman
She wasn't a saint but also it speaks volumes how much of a victim she is painted to be. This is a fantastic narrative device btw and I love it.
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Love does things to a person...terrible things..
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korivv · 2 years
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lazy 5 am horse doodles
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hop-per · 2 years
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You wanna know my favorite part of Honey Sugarman?
The fact that Honey is her name - so we can’t tell if Joseph is calling her by a pet name or not.
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kindheart525 · 1 year
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“Oh Bojack, look at you! You’re as cute as a button in that little sailor suit!”
“You really think so, Grandma?”
Little Bojack Sugarman batted his eyes sweetly, stretching his arms out so his grandmother could see his full outfit. To tell the truth, he didn’t really like being dressed as a sailor that much, but he loved being doted on by his grandmother and that made it worth it.
“No doubt about it! Mr. and Mrs. Bloodsworth are going to love it, you’ll be the talk of the dinner party!”
“Now Honey, we’re going to a dinner party with the Creamermans,”
Her husband, Joseph, corrected her sternly.
“You really ought to listen better when we make plans like this!”
“Oh yes, that’s right!”
Honey laughed her mistake off.
“Corbin could have been part of the family, you know. He would have been a really good match for Beatrice if she’d gotten her act together. If you’d taught her better. A perfectly good business opportunity, for shame.”
Joseph lamented, speaking in a low voice and leaning towards Honey in hopes that Bojack wouldn’t hear.
But Bojack wasn’t dumb, he had eyes and ears and knew his grandfather wasn’t happy with his mother.
“Does that mean Mr. Creamerman could have been my daddy? I’d like that, I’ve always wanted a daddy. Mommy won’t tell me about mine.”
Joseph panicked a bit once he realized his grandson had heard him, but he quickly stood up straight and rigid to save face.
“Well Bojack, your father was a no-good bum and a louse, and that’s all you need to know.”
Honey could sense the tension between her husband and grandson and she knew little Bojack had a lot more questions, but she didn’t want this to escalate any further. So she knelt down to the colt’s eye level and started pinching his cheeks affectionately.
“You’ll get to show everyone the lollipop song, won’t that be swell? And if you’re a good boy, Uncle Crackerjack will take you out for ice cream afterwards!”
Bojack started to feel a bit better at the thought of spending time with his uncle. He didn’t really want to perform in front of a crowd but it was better than being with his mother who did nothing but insult him. This was just the small price he had to pay.
As long as he was loved by somebody, Bojack wouldn’t stop dancing.
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More of the “Crackerjack lives” AU! Here is a look into Bojack’s relationship with his grandparents, which is definitely a lot better than his relationship with his mother but not without its flaws.  Joseph is still as prideful and self-centered as ever, deflecting blame for all the problems in his family and treating Beatrice more like a failed business pawn than a person who was failed by the people around her. Honey takes on the brunt of Joseph’s gripes but she tries to make sure her grandson is loved and happy like his uncle was growing up, even though she sometimes forgets things nowadays.  And of course, Bojack lives with the persistent absence of his father and the pressing question of what his life could have been like if his family were different, if he had a daddy of his own. Would it be better?
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[Image Description: Bojack is an anthromorphic horse child with a brown coat, black mane, and white markings on his nose and forehead. He stands with his arms outstretched as he shows off his blue-and-white sailor suit, smiling nervously up at his grandfather, Joseph Sugarman.
Joseph stares down at him with his arms crossed and a stern frown on his wrinkled face. He has a lighter brown coat with a graying brown mane, with darker brown around his snout and a white forehead diamond that matches Bojack's. He wears an off-white suit with a blue bowtie.
Honey Sugarman kneels down next to Bojack, smiling at him affectionately and holding his face in her hands. Her curled mane is auburn but graying, and her coat is reddish brown. She wears a pale teal dress with a red flower pattern, a bracelet on her left wrist, and red lipstick for an upper-class look. 
End Image Description.]
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