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igzsatelier · 9 months
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Imagine...
Instead of Katarina having a harem, it was you being the main love interest.
Prince Geordo, Prince Alan, Keith and the rest of the noble men and ladies were romantically interested in you. They love you very much the longer they spend time with you.
Except you were in denial about it and you refused to believe that these handsome men and beautiful ladies were in love with you.
There was no way Prince Geordo was interested in you, right? He's too perfect! An absolute fairytale prince that you can't help but feel like you were dragging him down with you!... Huh? Why is he confessing to you? No no no, you're being delusional--
Nicol was so quiet and mysterious. And these awkward silence sessions is seriously killing you. Woah, Nicol has an intense gaze... Wait-- is he angry with you? Did you do something wrong?! Y-You must apologize to him!
You wonder why Mary was always so nice and touchy with you, it's pretty embarrassing and you couldn't return her passionate gaze... Maybe because you were so easy to fool and please... Um-- Uhh?!-- She sounded kinda aggressive towards Alan and Keith. Uwah, scary!
Romance novels weren't something you were into in the first place. It made you feel desperate and pathetic, but reading it with Sophia made you feel safe...
Eep! S-Sophia!-- Why is she pressing her forehead against yours? Maybe because you were sitting too close to her?... Yeah, that must be it! You have to move away before she gets disgusted by you!
Prince Alan looks so cool and amazing!... Unlike you, you feel like your talents weren't good enough no matter how hard you try... Wh-What...? He looks a bit red. Alan thinks you're already amazing in the beginning? That... Th-That!-- M-Make's me really happy...
Keith was so helpful so to you that you couldn't help but feel useless. You feel like you have failed on being a good big sibling to him. I must apologize for being a bad sibling!... Hmm? He's not mad? Then wh-why is he sighing tiredly like that!?-- He probably thinks that you were being pathetic again. Ahh! Need to apologize again!
Maria... Why was she so nice to you? And so kind! A-And beautiful!... It makes your heart flutter to think that she cares about you... Even though you think that you don't deserve it. Oh my god, sh-she's being so radiant! But you can't help but feel guilty that she's putting up with your pathetic self. You should apologize everytime she's with you-- she's far too good for this cruel world!
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almdragonrend · 3 months
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I found another old conversation I had, here it is, but I warn you, it's long...
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! Yes another reaction! Im really happy we getting more of it!
But please remember OG Katarina's Good deed's not only the Bad ones
And please PLEASE for the Love of Akatosh don't trie to justify Katarina's Exile as if it was anything but in act of complete and crulety!
I have nothing more to say and hope to read more soon
StrangerWager on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:00PM CEST
As a person who haven't read much of the manga nor the Light Novels, and only with prior knowledge from the anime, I have zero clue of what was OG Katarina's deeds that were not bad. I would appreciate it if I were to be enlightened with some of these facts I do not know about.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:24PM CEST
Okay thank you for asking ^_^ i'd love tell you !
First of when Katarina was younger Baron sherry came to house Claes to force Anne in to a Forced Marriage that played out In OG Fl
The same way it did in they Anime,what you may not know is that the Mann he tried to marry her of to was already above 60 years! And known for committing Domestic Violence on his previous Wifes,So little OG Katarina stood up to protect her lowly Maid who is nothing more than a Commoner point from a grown ass scary looking Adult,
She also never bullyd Sophia despite the rest of Sociar Nobility Children doing it
She even told her own grown clique to leave Sophia alone as she was the little sister of her fiances best friend
Which is more than Geordo ever did for the Ascards,
She encouraged Sianna Nelson daughter of the lowest ranked Noble family in all of Sociar after seeing her hard work
And Sianna became Katarina's best friend despite being just one single step about a Commoner in her status
Which shows that even OG Katarina cared more about a persons personality than status when choosing friends
She only gets on trial in the routes were Maria tries it with either Katarina's Fiance or adopted Brother or both
And that with the Alan was just a miss translation when the Harem route was meant
Ps:I hope this was helpfull,please tell me ^_^
Last Edited Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:27PM CEST
StrangerWager on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:37PM CEST
You have my deepest gratitude. Thank you for the new found knowledge that shall be used for this work.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:43PM CEST
Im the one who should thank you for giving me the opportunity to explain ^-^
But there is also something else...
It's just a rumor so i didn't include it in my explanation,
Do you wanna hear it ?
StrangerWager on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:44PM CEST
By all means go ahead, I'll fact check it along the way.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 02:57PM CEST
Thank you ^_^!
Well there actually two rumours
First of,apparently no matter which route you choose Maria's actuall first crush was Katarina even in the FL time line
Second the more obvious Katarina only behaved the way she did in the Game because of Raphael/Sirius dark magic
Please let me know what you think or know about that ^_^!
Thank you ^_^!
Well there actually two rumours
First of,apparently no matter which route you choose Maria's actuall first crush was Katarina even in the FL time line
Second the more obvious Katarina only behaved the way she did in the Game because of Raphael/Sirius dark magic
Please let me know what you think or know about that ^_^!
StrangerWager on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 03:29PM CEST
Well, that certainly is something, I'll still see if whether or not this may be used or not.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sat 01 Oct 2022 03:32PM CEST
Thank you ^_^!
Im already hiped for the next chapter ^_^!
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 12:57PM CEST
Hold it... the dark magic thing makes too much sense.
Since OG Katarina's exagerated actions towards OG Maria were out of character for her if what you said is true.
It would also explain why an trained swordsman like OG Geordo would Kill OG Katarina instead of disarming her despite being (probably) skilled enough for it...
OG Keith magic going crazy is more easily believable.
So...everything bad that happened with OG Katarina can be traced back to Sirius (well...traced to the mage whispering in his ear but still).
I already have great sympathy for both OG Katarina and OG Maria.
if both rumours are true that scaled even higher...
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 02:46PM CEST
Yea i used to hate OG Maria,ans she certainly is a coward but...
After hearing about it i most say it turned the whole thing in an even greater tragedy...
Can you imagen your first love being killed for being mean to you...?
Also Katarina only tries to kill OG Maria in the Bad ending
Meaning she is already sentenced to Exile = death for a spoiled Duke Daughter
Meaning even Dark Magic can only bring Katarina to kill Maria if Maria has already become the catalyst for her own demise not before....
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 03:50PM CEST
I think dark magic was involved from the beginning.
OG Katarina being mad at OG Maria in Geordo's route makes sense ( and it's completly fair), but it makes little sense in the Keith's route.
OG Katarina disliked OG Keith and OG Maria wasn't the first woman he courted, so it still is out of character for her.
And the Exile ending has Keith/Geordo print all over it, because they both disliked OG Katarina and i have a hard time beliving OG Maria resented Katarina's treatment.
Also i would not go as far as to call OG Maria a coward, after her magic manifested she had no positive human interaction at all...
The people of her village avoided because of her magic, her supposed existence because of an affair or both.
Her father left and her mother couldn't even look at her in the eye.
So she had a combo of critically low self esteem and affection starved.
Also the only routes that OG Maria was in the wrong in my opinion are Geordo and Alan (since both are betrothed to another)
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 06:28PM CEST
That is really worth a tought,
Bout if the s the One she "actually loves" is Katarina is truth?
Id asks alot of questions
Like maybe she got only on with Keith/Geordo because of their connection to Katarina?
Also Maria is suposed to "see" dark magic
Something is of here....
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 10:42PM CEST
Since the choice is player based we can only speculate.
About the 'see dark magic thing', Fortune lover is a video game and Raphael/Sirius is an hidden capture target.
I don't know how the route is unlocked, but if it's supposed to be hidden maybe OG Maria needed to unlock a certan skill level or achieve something that allowed her to see dark magic.
If it was that obvious it would be a pretty on the nose hidden route for a video game.
My theory is that OG Maria 'persuit' of the capture targets was more on her need to have an good human connection (aka out of loneliness and desperation).
So i assume the hidden route would apear when she achieved enough self confidence/resolve to do so.
I don't see the OG Maria that would hide behind a capture target as having that conviction.
The Isekai Maria on the other hand confronted Sirius alone by her own will power (Bakarina's kindess gave her the confidence boost) and that Maria is the one that we are sure can see dark magic.
Because of that i belive that OG Maria needed to make the other capture targets lives and selves better without losing to her loneliness, then she would be able to truly help Raphael. (but that is just my theory)
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 11:08PM CEST
Also, since we are sharing theories.
Three things that always made me scratch my head:
- All routes have a single rival (except Katarina that apears in two)
- All routes rivals share their element with the capture target (except Katarina[earth] in Geordo[fire] route)
- In 'Verge of destruction' another rival apears and is interested in Geordo and acts like what one would expect from a villainess (Noelia[fire])
I have a theory for that (again i treat Fortune Lover as a video game)
I think in the test/beta version of the game Katarina is the rival in Keith's route and Noelia is the rival in Geordo's route.
But since Katarina would be the sister rival it would overlap in base concept with Sophia and Nicol, and the somewhat similar stage presence of Villain Katarina and Villain Noelia would create another redundancy,
so i assume the developers scrapped Noelia as an character and transfered some of her dialogue to Katarina.
Noelia doesn't apear in the Base isekai because Bakarina apeared before the game started, but she apears in the Verge of destruction because the game already started and Bakarina's apearance glitched the game back to the Beta because it needed someone in the Villain role.
Just a theory
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Sun 02 Oct 2022 11:31PM CEST
Might be
But That stitl dosen't explain the "Katarina = first love"part
Also i highly doubt That anyone but Katarina can give Maria the necessary confidence
Than again its sometimes suggested That someone Isekaid from Sociar to Katarina's RL
And their maid FL....
BUT Please Explain What do you Think about the Katarina part?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 02:06AM CEST
That is a difficult question, but i will do my best.
Warning it will be a long comment...
Lets start with a simple but complicated question: what makes people fall in love?
- Do they treat you different form everyone else?
- Do you admire something about them?
- Do you just enjoy their company more then usual?
- Do you share a connection with them?
- Do they complete you in a significant whay?
With those questions in mind:
- OG katarina kinda fits on the first, others where moved by envy, self importance or self steem issues , Katarina might have seen OG Maria as a threat to her future, so she was the first to take her seriously and more than just a cute face with undeserved magic.
- That is easy to answer, OG Katarina AND Bakarina are so unapologetic themselves that someone like Maria that works hard to be accepted can admire they carring their hearts on their sleeve.
- That is a hard NO, i fear.
- They have the contrast connetion, Katarina is a proud high rank noble, but has weak magic and worse academics, Maria is a shy humble commoner, but has a rare and powerful magic and excells academically, in short they don't fit exacly in their expected envioment.
- Again OG Katarina and Bakarina have the confidance that Maria lacks, they are proud of themselves despite many believing that outside of their title there is very little to be proud of, Maria has a lot of skills and despite having them she still does't fell that is enough.
Or Maria would fall in love for no reason a all, love is weird.
That wall of text tries to explain why OG Maria would fall for OG Katarina.
But now as to why OG Katarina was the first:
All capture targets didn't take OG Maria seriously, they were dismissive ( Geordo[the see everything grey 'perfect' prince], Nicol[way to focused on his sister], Alan[self steem issues]) or saw her as another petty face (Keith[the flirty playboy]), OG katarina took her seriously, BAD seriously but still.
Because they took longer to open up to OG Maria, any points that require them showing their stories delayed the love route, BUT OG Katarina basically roars what she is about with little regard for anything.
On the begining the "enjoy company" part is on the negative for everyone (including OG katarina) so no point for anyone
Again BOTH OG Katarina and Bakarina are open books, aka easier to understand and relate than the others.
Put all that with OG Maria's unhealty lack of human affection...it's possible.
TL,DR: i belive that is possible that OG Katarina would be OG Maria first crush, not a very healty one but still.
Does that answer the question in a decent way?
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 10:14AM CEST
Yes it dose answer it,
But,if we assume just for moment That it is a fact rather than theory
How exactly would That make you feel emotionally?
And how do you thing OG Maria was feeling about it after everything was sad and done ?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 09:09PM CEST
Hmm...
There are two Capture targets (Geordo and Keith) and two Endings (Exile and Death)
I will answer both questions depending on the combinations.
-Exile(General)
Disapointed in OG Maria, she doesn't look like the kind of person that would want OG Katarina exiled(or even resent her for that matter), but probably let it go because either she was convinced by her current lover or didn't want to risk put her current situation at risk, but i really belive she will feel guilty(specially in Geordo's route) and really worried for Katarina.
Very Worried/sad for OG Katarina, she got her life ruined and now has to survive in a place she doen't know, since she is a spoiled noble that cant end well. As a bonus, if there was dark magic, it wasn't even her fault at all.
-Exile(Keith)
Angry at OG Keith, while he had fair reasons to hate OG Katarina, saying he went overboard is an undestatment, since he actually had worse before the Claes took him in. And OG Katarina probaly treated him bad because she saw him as proof of her father's infidelity and causing indirect pain to her mother( both undestandable since she was 8 and i belive her mother encoraged her to it).
IF dark magic gave him a push then i feel kinda bad for him too.
-Exile(Geordo)
JUMP OFF A CLIFF, OG Geordo is implied to have little to no care to anyone until OG Maria apeared, aka he used OG Katarina as a tool and i belive that her exile in this case was more to break the engagement without a hit on his reputation and not because of her treatment of OG Maria(because again i dont think Maria would want this).
Even if there was dark magic, he was using and manipulating OG Katarina before any interaction with Sirius, so i repeat...JUMP OFF A CLIFF.
-Death(general)
Feel really bad for OG Maria, she was alone for most of her life, found a first love in OG Katarina that despised her (fairly in Geordo's route), saw said first love DIE RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER by the hands of her present love after the former tried to KILL HER, so she will blame HERSELF for Katarina's death, and now her present lover goes in a self imposed exile leaving her totally ALONE AGAIN.
(put that girl on suicide watch, therapy of both geez)
As a bonus (since the murderer left) she will have to endure the repercutions of the nobility alone.
Do i even need to explain OG Katarina...poor girl watched her life being ruined little by little, tried to kill the reason her life was ruined(in her eyes) and said murder atempt wasn't really her choice (dark magic) and then DIED FOR IT. Hope she finds peace...
Death(Keith)
Conflicted between furious and sad for OG Keith, if my memory serves right OG Katarina was killed because he lost control (maybe had dark magic involved) when trying to protect OG Maria.
Dude was tortured in his original home, got a new one where the mother and the older sister didn't treat him well and now he killed his sister and he didn't even mean it. Now he leaves the only one that actually treated him well out of guilt (kinda a dick move on Keith's part but still)
Death(Geordo)
do i even need to go in detail...
Be honest Geordo, you wanted Katarina gone, just not like that because it would reflect bad on you, are you leaving out of guilt or because you are fleeing the consequences.
As a bonus you are leaving Maria behind to deal with the repercution of YOUR actions.
Forget the cliff...JUMP ON A VOLCANO
I guess my opinion in OG Geordo is showing...
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 09:25PM CEST
That is a very good analysis
And that was what I love,it sounds exactly how I think they would feel,
And yea poor OG Katarina
She really is a good girl at the core
Couldn't blame OG Maria for falling for the Girl
If OG Maria ever becomes so powerful in light Magic that she could see all 3 timeliness from her own Birth to 100 after in one moment, how would she feel about it than ?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 09:38PM CEST
What do you mean?
OG Maria when?
Before the academy, before the endings or after the endings?
What do you mean?
OG Maria when?
Before the academy, before the endings or after the endings?
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 09:44PM CEST
Both,
I really liked to here you thoughts about how she'd feel looking both forward and backward
As i like to talk about such things,
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Mon 03 Oct 2022 10:28PM CEST
What the hell...i will do them all ( i think there are 4 timelines)
Before the academy
- Maria would be horrified to see what would happen because of her. But also would know both Keith and Katarina need her help.
She maybe would try to at least clear the air about Keith being Katarina's half brother, then Katarina could apologise, and Maria would try to protect Katarina from Geordo (poor girl needs it) i don't know if katarina would listen to her. I don't see this Maria going for Geordo, she maybe would try her luck with Keith, Katarina or both.
One detail Maria lacks confidence to do it, but she both cares about them and feels like she owes it to them to do her best, and Maria is a hard worker.
Before the endings(Keith's route)
- This time she would try her hardest to convince Keith to leave Katarina alone, or at least not insist on the exile. And would still try to save Katarina from Geordo. I don't see her relationship with Keith being afected in a meanfull way, but i am not sure if she will try to become friends with Katarina, both because she knows Katarina deslikes her now and because she feels like she does't deserve to become katarina's friend.
Before the ending(Geordo's route)
- Again would try to save Katarina, but this time i dont think she herself would feel save around someone like Geordo, even if he does care about her, not sure if the relationship would end but she would be weary of him at least, maybe even try to hold him back on his more malicous tactics to protect others from him.
After the ending(Keith's route - Exile)
- She would try to convince Keith to help her find Katarina or go herself, to at least see if she is ok and if not would assist her even if Katarina refused. Maria would be sad if Keith didn't try to help his sister, but she would understand (and would help Katarina alone)
After the ending (Geordo's route - Exile)
- Again would try to find Katarina, Geordo hardly would help and more so to apease Maria. This has a high chance to put a strain in their relationship. Since this Maria now knows that Geordo didn't gave Katarina the respect she deserved, and now sees a side of the prince she doesn't like.
After the ending (Keith's route - Death)
- Maria would be in a bad place,with extreme guilt and alone, but she would try to find Keith because she knows he is also in a bad place and she feels like she owes to at least stop him from doing something stupid, someone died because of her, she won't let another.
After the ending (Geordo's route - Death)
- By far the worst case for Maria's mental health, Katarina died because of her, and all because she fell for a man that didn't really deserve it.
This Maria has little to fight for now for and needs urgent therapy.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Tue 04 Oct 2022 10:33PM CEST
Good analysis 👍
But I would have liked it more if you had gone more in to how Maria would have feeld about her possible relationship with Katarina in the other timeliness
And yes BURN IN HELL OG Geordo YOU DESPICABLE DISAPPOINTMENT OF A HUMAN BEING AND WASTED MATRIAL OF THE FLAME OF LIFE!!!!!!!
And yes I clearly can se that Maria would try to rescue Katarina and Winn her over no matter the cost...
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 12:18AM CEST
Oh...my bad, i assumed you meant the game timelines.
Assuming the other timeline was the isekai one.
General
Maria would be confused with some key differences between Bakarina and OG Katarina.
Before the academy and before the Exile endings.
She would try harder to save/befriend OG Katarina because she now knows a more friendly and kind person is in there (since i belive OG Katarina and Bakarina ARE the same person just raised differently and in different envioments)
Still would help OG Keith and maybe score both.
OG Geordo will get some help from her in this case, because now she knows a the is a version of Geordo that can be better person.(Still don't think she would end up with him though)
The biggest impacts (emotionaly wise) would be in the death's endings.
OG Maria would feel even worse than in my other analysis.
In Keith's route - i am not sure if she would try to help OG Keith in his exile here because now she knows she took all the wrong choices and maybe she is now too terrified to make things even worse.
In Geordo's route - This somehow is worse than the previous one. Because now she knows:
1 - OG Katarina was an extremely kind person inside and had things been different would be an amazing friend or maybe more (and died because of her bad choices).
2 - OG Geordo HAD a possibility of becoming a better person and he got worse (again her choices didn't help there)
3 - The rest of the Isekai harem could have become good friends and companions to her (not in this continuity)
In short, knowing what could have been (and won't because of her) would break what is left of OG Maria spirit.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 03:23AM CEST
Oh ! I should have been more clear on that one !
With the 3 time lines i meant Fortun Lover,Verge of doom, sorry
And i agree her soul and generally Personality are the same,
She just hasn't 17 extra years of maturity
And how could the death ending even happen if she has this knowledge before the start
Or even before Katarina's trial Hamefur Maria loves Bakarina
It isn't very clear in verge of doom but in both setting's Maria is definitely happier with Katarina around
Than in all good endings of FL,
So i refuse to believe she would be willing to damned the Woman who is the only one she ever truly loved in all possible timeliness
As the happy ending's in FL don't make her seem all that happy....
But what do you think....?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 04:34AM CEST
I don't discont the death ending because there is a dark mage lurking in the corner.(maria isn't aware of them)
And yes, she is happier with Katarina around indeed.
I think the exile is more of fault of OG Keith ( verge of doom Keith shows his deslike of her, and if dark magic was involved then it would take much)
The Exile in OG Geordo's route had the prince's print all over it, even without dark magic, heck in verge of doom the first think that comes to his mind when Katarina 'changed' is "I can still use her"(...Fk you Geordo...)
The Verge of doom characters the same as the Game counterpart until Bakarina changed them.
As for the endings i don't think "happy" is the right word for OG Maria.
She went from being bullied and alone to finally have a person that cares for her (up from zero) and said person is most likely protecting her from the bullies.
Her life overall improved, BUT only 1 person cares for her so she still lonely and the Katarina issue makes her sad.
So less 'happy' and more 'content' in my opinion.
Its like if someone survived with only water and bread their whole life and now has milk and buttered bread, its and improvement and their are 'content' (but still less than ideal)
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:25AM CEST
I get what you mean
But I'm still pretty sure she woul go after Katarina
After learning so much,
And I said she saw everything about all 3 time lines at once
Meaning she has to be aware of Sirius
Because he's clearly shown atleast in Hamefura
Also I'm pretty sure she'd avoid Geordo after knowing what kind a guy he is
Am I wrong?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 08:42AM CEST
Oh, i though she only saw her perspective of the events.
Not sure about the avoid Geordo part, there is a good chance of that or she could try help him become better(she will not date him though)
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:02AM CEST
No I mean she's seeing all the events from outside
She does not get to see their thougt but everything else
And yea,who would want to date that Bastard?
I make a revelation now
I'm a Big Marikata fun so I'm a bit biased
Sorry I should have mentioned that before....
But I really want to hear which kind of Action you think Maria would take,....
I mean I'm pretty sure knowing everything she would be dead set on the Katarina Route, but what do you think....?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 05:50PM CEST
I can't judge, Maria is my favorite pair with Katarina too.
I also believe she would go for Katarina given the chance.
Now i must also confess my bias.
Maria and Keith is my second favorite pair for Maria (katarina is the first).
So she scoring both is a victory triangle for me.(i also enjoy Keith and Kata)
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 07:18PM CEST
Would you consider a triple Marriage?
Maria,Katarina,Keith ?
I confess i actually dislike Keith a lot
Given what i already told i think you can gues why ?
Given Keith is desperate for love to such a point
And he think's of Maria as the only one who can save him and that he has so many rivals
If she in the middle of it all declared privately that she be willing to choose over all other's but under one condition
He's most likely to accept any condition even if that condition is to make his scorned adoptive Sister a part of the deal.....
That also had the effect that Katarina would still be under the Protection of house Claes
Which would make Geordo unable to harm her in the same way he did with the trial
Something else are now constantly having a discussion in Stranger Wager's comment section
So the least we could do is ask her if she want to take part in or if she even is okay with it,
Do you agree?
R (Guest) on Chapter 1Thu 06 Oct 2022 11:36PM CEST
I would
I didn't notice to be frank, you mentioned Keith directly in one comment prior to this...
Yes he is affection starved as well, and according to Bakarina:
"When he grew up he became quite the playboy in order to bury his loneliness and when he entered the academy, he met the heroine. The heroine healed his lonely heart and became the first person Keith ever truly loved..."
Hamefura Chapter 2
It's not like Keith believed that Maria would save him, it's more like she saved him and them he fell for her.
But i agree that he would accept Katarina in that cenário for three reasons:
1 - Maria saved him so it would be hypocrite of him to not let her save Katarina.
2 - If the misundestanding is cleared and Katarina apologised, he is capable of giving her a chance (verge of destruction shows that).
3 - That would make Maria happy, and maybe that is enough.
I agree with the last part too (this is the longest dicussion i participated in that didn't involve the autor lmao)
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 1Fri 07 Oct 2022 12:36PM CEST
I just informed the Author
I'm happy we can go with that
Assuming Maria successful used her knowledge to get Geordos engagement with Katarina broken and get engaged to both Claes siblings how do you see it go from there?
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thequietkid-moonie · 1 year
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Hamefura request: Keith, Maria, Sophia, and Geordo with a friend who denies having a crush on Katarina, only for the friend to freeze up and realize they do when they start to think about it.
Reader denies to have a crush on Katarina
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[ SCENARIO ] [ Keith, Maria, Sophia, Geordo ]
[ My next life as a Villainess All Routes Lead to Doom! ]
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I find pretty funny how no matter how much everyone shows that they LOVE Katarina she never get it
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Keith Claes
Keith has been with Katarina since they were kids, as well as being in love with her since then, and since both are siblings he has the advantage to be able to spend more time with Katarina than everyone else, and just like that he has been able to meet everyone along side with her
Finding others that end up being atracted to her isn't really strange (to his misfortune), when you start to befriend her Keith was immediatly wary of you, even trying to stan between the two of you for a while
Still, after a while Keith just get more comfortable with your presence and stop being so wary and start to relax, taking your relationship with Katarina as a simple friendship (mainly because he is more busy worring about Geordo)
However, after a while Keith start noticing little hints of your behavior that shows that you have an interest on Katarina that goes far from a friendship, at first he tried to don't jump into conclutions but it doesn't take him long to be more and more suspicious of you, you can even notice how he start to pay more attention to you but not in a really friendly way
The moment Keith find out that you actually have a crush in Katarina he feels between betrayed and frustrated, even taking it against himself too for letting his guard down, he may be seen like he is exaggerating but he has enough with having to fight with all the others for Katarina and now you are just added to that list
He will be doubting a little about confronting you about it, but when he does he will be pretty calm about it (or at least try to), he prefer to have a moment were he just hang out with you just casualy to take the opportunity to bring up the topic, saying that he knows about your crush but despite everything he isn't going to give up that easily
When you show confusion about what he talking about Keith will be surprised and confused too, and when he realice that in fact you don't even know about your own feelings for her he will think carefuly about his next step, it could be that he tell you about what he had noticed that proof your crush or let you be like that and don't pry on the topic
Either way, the chat you had with Keith let you thinking about Katarina and lead you to finally realice your feelings for her, and whatever you decide to do next Keith will notice it pretty quickly, also it doesn't matter what you decide to do he will be pretty wary of you once again for a while
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Maria Campbell
Maria is a really sweet and gentle person, she doesn't know Katarina since too long time like the others but that doesn't mean her feelings for her are less or a lie, she really loves Katarina and she does in a sweet way, just being happy by being able to be with her
Marie doesn't think much when you show up in her life she doesn't think much of it, just happy to have a new friend, and Katarina, as always, was just friendly and treating you as a friend since the start
Slowly you start to show more interested on Katarina and even wanting to spend more time with her, for Maria it take her a while to actually notice that you were developing feelings for Katarina as well
At first she was nervous about it, what if you win her heart? What if you try to take her for yourself? What if Katarina prefers you and let her behind? She was nervous and she doesn't hide it too well since you can even noticed it (if you ask her she just nervously stuttering a no and try to just go away), it won't laste long until she finally calms down about it and start to act like always again
She won't really confront you about it because she isn't the type to fight over this kind of things, so if she end up talking about it is because you two end up talking about it casually, maybe that day Katarina had done something interesting or even is that she was in a trouble again
It could be that you two were talking about her and lead the conversation about the experiences and good memories you had with her and Maria discreetly end up pointing out about your crush for her (and probably her own too), either by accident or intentionally, but when you deny having a crush on her Maria is really surprised, she swears that you love her so to confirm her suspicions she start pointing out all the hints she noticed on you that proof your crush, but she is saying it like a question, truly confused about it
Seeing you so confused too make Maria decide that will be better to leave you alone for now, apologizing for talking about all that weird things the problem is that what she said to you let you thinking, leading you to realice that you actually have a crush on Katarina
Your next move is your choise, but not matter what you decide that won't really chance the relasionship you have with Maria, she will still be your friend and no matter what happen at the end she is pretty supportive with both
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Sophia Ascart
Sophia knows Katarina since they were kids and she will never forget all the kindness she showed her, Sophia loves Katarina nonetheless but not in a romantic way, she is her best friend since a long time and it she will love to keep it that way
Sophia trust Katarina, so whoever is her friend won't have much troubles to become Sophia's friends too. She doesn't think much about you at first and is just happy to have a new friend and see Katarina happy, but as the time pass by Sophia start to notice when you start to win more interest on Katarina
Maybe Sophia wasn't the most observant person but she is smart, she probably end up realicing your behavior for the novels she read and she is quickly to jump into the conclution that you had a crush on Katarina, also she will be excited for the idea at first but soon she start to think furder on it and start to get troubled by it, because as much as she likes you as a friend and want Katarina's happines she want to play matchmaker with her and her brother, so you having a crush in her will be a problem for her plans
When she confront you about it she isn't really being rude or anything, she is more likely pouting while asking you why you haven't tell her about your crush for Katarina! You two are friends, right? You should told her something like this!
When you deny it and even seem surprised for it she first feels irritated but almost imediatly notice how you truly doesn't seem to notice it yet, so he start telling you about all the hints she noticed in your behavior that proof your crush on Katarina, not really stopping until you are convinced about what she is saying, making you realize your own feelings
It would depend in the relasionship the two of you have (and your personality too), if you two are really good friends is probably that, after thinking about it for a while she will cheerish for you two to become a couple too (still her prior is to settle Katarina with Nicol, but still finds you as a couple super cute), otherwise she won't like it too much and just continue with her plan without really letting that interfere with your friendship
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Geordo Stuart
Geordo really loves Katarina, through the years he end up loving her and he isn't planning to lose her against anyone, because he knows how amazing she is and he knows that others are atracted to her too
He has the advantage that he is her fiancé but that won't really stop the others from trying to steal her from him and since he is already pretty jealous it was obvious that he is going to suspect of you when you start to getting closer to Katarina, heck he was even irritated by just seeing you start talking to them (specially if you are male)
He doesn't say much to Katarina, just that he doesn't fully trust you but if she insist that you are her friends then he will more focused on you and making sure you don't try anything weird with his fiancé
It will reach a point where he end up confronting you about your feelings for Katarina, maybe is just his jealousy or he truly start saying how you show hints that you actually has a crush on Katarina, in any case he is affirming that you are trying something not so kindly with her (is just his jealousy and his anger for how close you get to her)
When he confront you he tries to remind kinda polite and with a smile, but he is being more like aggressive liabilities, his words isn't exactly kind and behind his smile he seem pretty annoyed while talking to you, going slowly and politely remembering you that Katarina is his fiancé and he doesn't really appreciate how close you two had become let alone seeing you so blatantly tries to court her despite his relasionship
The moment you say that you don't have feelings for her his irritation just increase, still trying to keep his smile but is obvious that had become harder, but you can noticed on his irritated voice while he point out all the signals he had noticed of you that proof your crush on Katarina
Since you insisted that you don't feel that for her he just give up for now a leave you alone not without giving you a last threat with kind words, still everything he said to you stay stuck in your mind, wondering if what he had said about you is real
After thinking a while about what Geordo told you you end up realicing that what he was right when he says that you have a crush on Katarina, still no matter how you decide to react about it or what to do next you know now that Geordo is constantly watching over you too so you don't try anything weird with Katarina
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Guess which one I love the most :p
Aight. A ship chart to start this blog! Pinning this so people which ships I ship romantically and which ones I throw a riot if they make canon. A shame that the most popular Katarina ships in Japan are the ones I like the least.
Marikata, my beloved.
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animemakeblog · 2 years
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Katarina Claes is the reincarnated character in the video game Fortune Lover. The main characters are Nicol Ascart, Keith Claes, Geordo Stuart, Alan Stuart, Maria Campbell, Sophia Ascart, and Mary Hunt. The series will air in the spring of 2020 and the summer of 2021.
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arataka-reigen · 10 months
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My Katarina ship tier list:
Katarina x Maria - top tier with bonus villain x hero
Katarina x Sophia - top tier with bonus soulmates through reincarnation
Katarina x Mary - top tier with bonus of absolute devotion on one side
Katarina x Alan - top tier with bonus i just think alan is neat
Katarina x Geordo - meh tier
Katarina x Nicol - meh tier² and this boy has zero personality
Katarina x Keith - shit tier THEY'RE SIBLINGS
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Pairing: Maria x Catarina
Title: Shit, I forgot about Geordo
Katarina and Maria have returned from a much needed break in Maria's hometown with a big announcement: They've finally gotten married! Admittedly, they hadn't been dating before that, but those two weeks had allowed Katarina to finally recognize her and Maria's feelings for one another, and one thing led to another...
...Right. The engagement...
Time to try to get Keith and Geordo together. Surely Sophia will be willing to help with this plan. She loved the book "The Lord and His Prince" after all...
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blue-blaze · 10 months
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would anyone be interested in a hamefura x arknights au?
it's still a wip but here are the races:
Katarina - fallen sankta (for the villainess role, still not sure)
Keith - Perro
Geordo, Alan - Draco
Mary - Cautus
Nicol, Sophia - Vulpo
Maria - Caprinae / Sankta (still not sure)
Raphael - Liberi
Sora - Lupo
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bakarinaknowsbest · 9 months
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Vol 13 is finally out. Here is the art we got 😆
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azure-wolf-227 · 1 year
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Hamefura x Pokémon AU: Pokémon: Fortune Lover - Gameplay
Some Info dump on what the ‘game’ is like in this AU. I’ll later discuss how Bakarina’s actions change things.
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Part 2: Changes Due to Katarina’s Actions
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The game’s premise is that the main character is accepted into Sorcier’s Academy of Magic and Pokémon due to possessing rare Light Magic despite their commoner status. ‘Maria Campbell’ is the default protagonist but their name, gender, and appearance can be customized.
All Pokémon games introduce some new gimmick or mechanic. The one for this game is Magic Boosting. Trainers who are mages can use their magic to boost their Pokémon’s power. This works best with Pokémon whose Type is compatible with your element. In the main character’s case, Light Magic works with all Types except Dark, Poison, and Ghost and is most compatible with Fairy.
While there, the player can choose one of four storylines connected to each of the Capture Targets: Geordo, Alan, Keith, and Nicol. Now, while we are aware of their conflicts in the original Fortune Lover game, I want to alter them a bit so that they fit in the world of Pokémon and you need to do complex stuff to resolve them. For example:
Alan’s storyline is that he wants to become the Master Champion to prove he is better than Geordo. He sees you (the player) as a rival for that position and often battles you while you are on your journey to compete in the League.
Nicol’s storyline involves battling against Sophia’s bullies to protect her. I want there to be more to it but can’t think of something.
I’m also not sure what to do about Geordo’s and Keith’s storylines.
Anyway, the romantic elements are still present but they have less prominence. Sure, you can still win the Capture Targets over, but that’s not actually the main thing of this game.
Let’s talk about the female rivals. Besides the three you expect (Katarina Claes, Mary Hunt, and Sophia Ascart) there is a fourth one specific to the Keith storyline: Lady Charlotte Vulcan (© @logo-comics).
While each storyline has their own rival, Katarina Claes stands out in that she antagonizes the Main Character in all the storylines, not just Geordo’s and Keith’s. And though you can befriend the other three, Katarina is unrepentantly a villainess, at least on the first half of the game.
The Condemnation scene happens in all storylines with the Target you are pursuing coming to your defense. Unlike the og FL, there is no bad endings where Katarina dies. She is sentenced to exile but somehow escapes before they can go through with it.
Which brings up to the second part of the game.
No matter which storyline you chose, you always come into conflict against Team Dark, who seek to take control over all Pokémon and use them to conquer the world. I haven't decided who their boss is but, I kind of want it to be the king’s recluse brother since the guy is sus in the LNs.
Now completing the main for storylines unlocks the final storyline where you must find out what Team Dark is up to and stop them to save Sorcier. The first even of the second half that sets you on the path to defeat Team Dark is saving Sirius Dieke/Raphael Walt from the Dark Spirit possessing him.
Once you save Raphael, you learn that Marchioness Dieke was a member of Team Dark, so the Ministry asks for you assistance in stopping them. All five Capture Targets volunteer to help you; you can even ask the remaining three female rivals for help.
During the investigation, you discover that the fugitive Katarina Claes has joined Team Dark to take revenge on the Main Character. Other antagonists include Sora and Sarah.
At the end of the game, after you defeat Team Dark, you can end with either one of the five Capture Targets, all of them for the Harem ending, or Friendship ending.
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What do you think? Do you have any ideas to expand stuff and make it better?
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This is just for fun, especially since the yaoi side of this fandom isn't as big. But I have a weakness for yaoi and this series is no exception. I will say it here, Geordo/Nicol and Alan/Sora are my favorite guilty pleasure ships. Also Alan is almost shippable with any dude XD
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almdragonrend · 4 months
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I found a conversation I had in the comments section of a fanfiction and I think I have to share this to give a better look of the real Original Katarina
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It again baffled me how different Noelia is from OG Katarina,
Katarina always good oppen in any fight yet there a still some brainless morons who claim they were the same!
How fucking darre they ?
Noelia is such a fucking coward,
Maybe in her past life she was the Authors wife
They surely fit,as selfish hypocritical and hybris driven they both are! Cursed be there souls for eternity!
xaszatm on Chapter 9Tue 14 Mar 2023 06:30AM CET
Let's be fair, the character already was one of the eviler characters in the series thanks to attempting to kill Katarina Claes for the "crime" of not picking on the commoners. It's not surprise with just a little push, her plans could get more evil.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 9Tue 14 Mar 2023 08:14AM CET
Yeah,
I think the main reason why Sirius used Katarina and not Noelia is that if he used Noelia she would just have killed Maria outright, but Katarina has a good heart so she would be more Tame under his influence.
froghero on Chapter 9Tue 14 Mar 2023 03:12PM CET
You have a point. I think another reason Sirius chose to use katarina was because Noel was too smart and cunning in his schemes.
The moment he started motivating Noel with black magic, Noel wouldn't just start bullying Maria. but will find a way to immediately eliminate Maria from the game. and leaves no trace of evidence.
This goes very much against Sirius' wishes.
First, Sirius never really wanted to get rid of maria in OG FL, just wanted her out of his scheme (just as he didn't really want to get rid of Bakarina in hamefura. he just wanted Bakarina out of his scheme.)
Second, He wanted to cause chaos among the nobles, the royal family, and among the commoner, so that Noel's immediate eliminate Maria without any evidence would not cause such a thing.
A better option is the katarina, the prince's fiancée. who has a straightforward personality without plan. Will begin to small bully Maria for the whole university to see without hiding.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 9Tue 14 Mar 2023 04:22PM CET
Plus the fact that she is a good person deep down still,
She has helped Sianna,Anne and so many others even in the OG timeline,
Even if Noelia was some how caught it wouldn't lead to nearly as much strife as with Noelia,as Noelia is completely selfish and doesn't care about others and most likely has no friends while Katarina is the only character who was shown to always have friends in all timeliness.
froghero on Chapter 9Tue 14 Mar 2023 07:22PM CET
Oh, I think I understand you wanted to convey.
Noelia because of her very very bad personality. So she never had friends, true friends, companions, or people who cared about her. Therefore, even if she misses, she got caught. No one will come out to help her fight powerful groups around Maria. (Maybe with the exception of her family. Although I suspect she might have been abandoned because her family didn't want to get in trouble with the royal family.)
But on the other hand if it's katarina because she's inherently good, there will be a group of people she used to help, people who like her, her friends, people. who cares about her, her family, House of Adeth, Come out against the powerful group around Maria immediately. (Especially in the case of Prince Geordo. Katarina clearly had a reason for small bullying Maria. And Maria had the cause of being disgusted by the nobles. Because she stole Prince Geordo from her fiancée)
Of course there will be a lot of chaos following the OG FL storyline.
AlmDragonrend on Chapter 9Tue 14 Mar 2023 07:59PM CET
Yes, the main problem is that it wasn't Katarina's fault
Katarina is a good person,the people who truly got to know her loved and adore her, there will be a civil war and even if Maria's faction somehow wins they will be to weak for Sociar to survive as a Nation
the only possible solution for this situation in which The Kingdom doesn't disappear or fall to a hostile take over is Sirius coming out as a dark wizard and take every single bit of the blame,for everything that has ever happened during both games,
and Katarina reinstate as the daughter of house Claes and being made heir to the throne as compensation for everything she had to go through aswell as the Stuart's leaving the Kingdom for ever,which is pretty unlikely.
So yeah that Kingdom is done for
I actually have plans for a fanfiction about a possible fortune lover 3 but I can't actually do it on my own,
But at least I have "the Heroine's brother " trilogy
But there one-shots and unlike what I would plan for that
But I took a bit inspiration from the tales of serious,
I know some people have problems with it
But I love tales of Zestiria,yeah it could be better and I would have loved to work on it,especially in the story part.
But I got a bit to far away,
But that is just the main point,among all the Noble's in Sociar during the original timeline Katarina was the one who more than any other embodies the spirit of Nobless obliged,and that is why she is someone who is so important to soo many people,because a friend like her is rare almost non existence in Noble society, so of course no one wants to lose her.
froghero on Chapter 9Tue 14 Mar 2023 08:41PM CET
Sounds like it would be the end of the royal family and nobility in Sociar. Regardless of the outcome in any way. And perhaps the end of the country of Sociar.
heh. In the original timeline, the only person who laughed at the end was probably the Ghost Dark magic.
If you have a great idea for a fanfiction You should try writing it. :D
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AlmDragonrend on Chapter 9Tue 14 Mar 2023 10:04PM CET
Yes,the only way for the Nation to survive is like I said Raphael admitting to everything while also pointing out he choose Katarina because she was the only one on the entire Academy who hadn't killed Maria outright from the start,than the Royal family handing over the Kingdom to Katarina and leaving,that's the only outcome in which Sociar can survive.
The fanfiction I have in mind couldn't work,
Because I really couldn't make that one on my own for multiple reasons,but I could tell you the basic promise if you won't ?
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4rm4n1ja · 2 years
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My Next Life as A Villainess Ships:
💖Katarina x Sophia💖
Katarina x Maria
Katarina x Alan
Katarina x Nikol
Katarina x Mary
Katarina x Ginger
Katarina x literally anyone else
Katerina x Sora
🤢Katerina x Keith🤢
🤢Katerina x Geordo🤢
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maboroshi-no · 2 years
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Which route in Hamefura Pirates is the most enjoyable so far? Or which one leaves with a great impression?
Hello anon!
Well I may be biased, but Keith's route is the most enjoyable route to me. Though all routes have great things in them, but sometimes mixed with bad things.
More details below.
Keith Route:
Keith's route was the most enjoyable to me, not only because he is my favorite, but also because it was really nice to watch.
What I liked:
Keith's insecurities about losing Katarina and his childhoood trauma have been treated well. I was really moved at the scene where he unleashes his magic to protect Katarina. We could see in that scene that he had overcome all his issues.
In the other routes, Katarina remains oblivious about her feelings up until the guy's confession, but in Keith's route, she realizes her feelings early on and she is proactive about it. We can see that Katarina really is in love with Keith during a big part of the route. Katarina comes at Keith herself and she makes efforts for their future.
Keith and Katarina are so cute together, Keith is so sweet and I love how the whole Claes household is happy for them.
What I didn't like:
Nothing, but I wished Keith directly confronted Geordo.
Geordo Route
I have mixed feelings about Geordo's route. He is really shown as forceful so any sweet moments coming up ends up feeling mitigated. Besides, even at the end of his route, Katarina doesn't seem to be in love with him...
What I liked:
I loved seeing Geordo snaps in his another and bad ending.
Geordo's route puts the accent on how Geordo is the first one that Katarina befriended, which makes him special.
Geordo's route deals with Katarina's insecurities about Geordo: FL!Geordo killing her, how Geordo is supposed to fall in love with Maria, how Katarina doesn't think that she can handle becoming a royal. These are definitely the main obstacles of GeordoxKatarina, and I am glad they covered it. They didn't go too deep though.
Katarina has a hard time believing Geordo when he says that he loves her, but I find it cute that hearing his heartbeats would convince her of his sincerity.
I loved how the guys talked it out with Geordo after he made Katarina cry. Geordo completely lost himself at that time.
What I didn't like
Geordo is forceful
Katarina is still not sure about her feelings even at the end
The Katarina x Geordo issues were not covered at the core since Katarina never revealed anything about Fortune Lover nor her past life.
Katarina accepts to become a royal who won't do anything.
Alan Route
I also have mixed feelings with Alan's route, but this time, it is because I find it both boring and hilarious. I found it boring because Alan's route is highly mixed with the dramas of the secondary characters, which I am not really interested in. I find it hilarious because Liliana is funny (until Ryle arrives), Alan's memory scenarios are hilarious and so is his ending.
What I liked:
Alan's happy ending is both hilarious and moving. It has the best kiss scene and Katarina has the prettiest smile in it. After Keith's endings, I love Alan's happy ending the most.
I love how Katarina decides to talk to Geordo and Mary before giving her answer to Alan. Once she got their okays, Katarina also tries to confess to Alan herself.
We got to see a Geordo and Mary's POV after they saw Alan confessing to Katarina, which was interesting.
Alan's memory scenarios are hilarious: Katarina gave Alan a box chocolates and Alan felt like he had to protect them from the strangely pissed off Geordo. There is also the one where the young Alan is faced with the hostile vibes of the Geordo / Keith / Mary trios without understanding why XD.
Liliana is shipping AlanxKatarina.
Katarina is really cool when she fights Frederic alongside Alan.
Alan's route also includes a Mary's ending.
Alan and Katarina are fighting at the beginning about who should stay behind and who should face the pirates. Alan says that Katarina should stay behind because she is a weak woman while he is a strong man. Katarina replies that Alan should be the one staying behind because he is an immature royal while she is a strong lower-ranked duke's daughter.
What I didn't like:
I found the route boring up until Chapter 6. Maybe because I didn't understand what they were doing?
Mary accepts things too easily in my opinion. If she is willing to fight it when Geordo is Katarina's fiancée, I expect her to do the same with Alan. Especially since AlanxKatarina is probably the worst outcome that can happen to her.
Nicol Route
In Nicol's route, we get to see Nicol emotional. I also loved how we could unexpectedly get some OG!Katarina content.
What I liked
We get to see Nicol lose his composure and become emotional
We get to see Katarina facing another Katarina, and even interacting with OG!Katarina.
I loved the scene when Nicol saves Katarina from drowning.
Nicol's final memory scenarios is so moving, with his parents congratulating on stealing getting the girl he loves, and Nicol and Katarina talking about their engagement. His good ending with Nicol, Katarina, Keith and Sophia talking about how they will become siblings is also radiant.
What I didn't like
I wanted to see Nicol confront Geordo.
Keith didn't do anything when Katarina was having recurrent nightmares
Everything goes too perfectly for Nicol: Geordo and Keith remain in the sidelines during Katarina's time of need, Nicol has to romance "Katarina" to save her life and Geordo begs him to do it, Geordo even gives Nicol his blessings to his engagement saying that "he is happy that he can entrust Katarina to him".
Rozy route
Rozy's route was really enjoyable and I thought it would be my second most favorite... well until Chapter 6. Once they get to Queed, the route becomes awful.
What I liked
Rozy and Katarina had an encounter years ago which changed Rozy's life, and then fate makes them meet again. I love this kind of setting and I really enjoyed the scene where Katarina finally remembers Rozy.
There is a lot of reveals in Rozy's route: I loved the scenes where Katarina shockingly learns that Rozy is actually the pirates' boss. And then we learn that Rozy is the young boy that Katarina met years ago when she was lost. Then we learns that Rozy is a cool duke who pretends to be a pirate to catch terrorists... And then we learns that Rozy was actually a mob character in Fortune Lover who after interacting with Katarina got for some reason promoted to capture target...
That one fateful encounter he had with Katarina not only changed Rozy's fate, but also Silva's. In Fortune Lover, Rozy was a mob character who was killed by Silva at the start. After killing him, Silva recognized him and laughed at how he has just killed the shitty noble he met years ago. In the Hamefura timeline, Rozy gained a positive outlook on life after meeting Katarina, so when he meets Silva afterwards, he takes him under his wing rather than abandoning. As a result, Silva becomes the unofficial second son of the Lindgren family rather that a noble hating pirates.
Rozy is kind of cute.
Once they are in Queed, the whole gang is in "foreign territory". Like everyone is in the house knows that Rozy is infatuated with Katarina. Rozy's dad and Albert even play wingman.
What I didn't like
Albert. He used his position to make Geordo accepts his plan and ultimately tear Katarina off him.
Katarina kinda ignores her friends once they are in Queed and is manipulated by Albert. She accepts a plan where she has to pretend to be Rozy's fiancée to act as a decoy for the terrorists to make a move. Geordo was against it but since Katarina wanted to help and Albert pressured him, he accepted it under the condition that they would stop everything the moment Katarina is in danger. But even after she nearly died, Katarina still wanted to continue with the plan.
In both Rozy's ending, we don't see anyone commenting about Katarina and Rozy's relationship. Based on what happened in Queed, I wouldn't be surprised if they were all bitter about it, especially Geordo.
Silva route
I thought I would not like it since I thought Silva was an oresama type, but I unexpectedly loved Silva and his route. Silva is chill and sweet.
What I liked
Silva is funny and I love how he teases Katarina and the others in a big brother way. I especially loved it when he said that Keith feels more like Katarina's mom than brother.
His CGs gives the wrong idea about him. Silva pushing Katarina on a bed? He is actually putting her to sleep because it is late. Silva carrying a blindfolded Katarina? He does it so that Katarina wouldn't stumble on nor see the corpses lying here and there in the boat.
Silva is a cool big brother pirate captain who teases others, but once they are in Queed, Silva is the one being teased as the youngest son of the Lindgren family. Albert dresses him up, Rozy teases him about his budding feelings for Katarina...
Silva can be really sweet with Katarina.
Unlike in Rozy's route, everyone indirectly gives Katarina their blessings since they are the one who made the preparations for her engagement to Silva. Katarina also talked with her friends to make sure that they would be okay with her leaving far away.
Setting off to explore the world and go on adventures looks more like Katarina than just remaining a housewife at the capital.
What I didn't like
Keith is so uncool in Silva's route... He can't do anything against pirates because he can't use his earth magic on a boat, and he gets kidnapped too...
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