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Makima chan,you're likeable:)
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Horsemen and thinking.
#chainsaw man#war devil#control devil#famine devil#asa mikata#fami#makima#csm manga spoilers#four horsemen of the apocalypse
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four horsemen of the apocalypse
#chainsaw man#chainsaw man fanart#makima#makima fanart#fami csm#yoru csm#fami#yoru#four horsemen of the apocalypse
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Makima:
Makima: Hey, sis.
Fami: What do you want??
Makima: Dang, why you gotta be like that? Already! I thought we were good.
Fami: Oh yeah! We're real good when you want something! We straight up besties and then the second you get what you want, you disappear like David Copperfield.
Makima: Oh my gosh! It's not even like that. I just wanted to talk to you real quick- I can't talk to you for a second? Just for a second??
Fami: Y'know what? I was making assumptions and that's on me, I apologize. I apologize... so, how's it going?
Makima: You know what, don't worry about it. It wasn't really that big a deal. Ahm, but while I have you here...
Fami: BRUUUUUHHH...
#chainsaw man#csm#four horsemen of the apocalypse#horsemen sisters#famine devil#control devil#makima csm#fami csm#csm kiga#memes#carterandersoncomedy#referenced
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if the control devil has sisters (four horsemen) then why not angel devil also has siblings (other eight categories of angels)?
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war devil is a bimbo im so happy
#makima was rly holding all the braincells with the four horsemen huh#csm blogging#thank u new chapter now i may sleep for good
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It's been a while since I posted anything😭
So here's makima painting I did for school project last night👹🏇
#makima#csm#chainsaw man#chainsawman fanart#control devil#the four horsemen#makima csm#makima fanart
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Warning: Manga spoilers!
"Miss Makima?"
"Hm?"
"What am I to you?"
One rule to abide when conversing with Makima is to never look into her eyes. Never trust the fake security they hold, for if you do, then you are nothing more than her mouse. Her helpless, obedient Country Mouse.
She pauses her caresses of your hair, and she says your name ever so softly. "Look at me."
From all those years of being with her, you know to avoid eye contact.
"Why do you doubt me?" She's redirecting. Best to humour it.
"When you obtain the Chainsaw Devil," one of her dogs shift, "and when you have it eat War, Death and Famine..."
"Once I have created the perfect world, I will rule over mortals and devils alike. I will become their God."
Death. War. Famine. Control. Out of the four horsemen, you do not doubt as to who should remain. Yet once her sisters are gone, what will become of you? If her plans are to become the singular omniscient, omnipotent entity of the world, there will be no one to stand as her equal.
"What about Chainsaw?" Just thinking of him made you unhappy. The humans might call it jealousy, but you recognise it as an acknowledgement of unworthiness. What has he done to enrapture her so, when you have been the one to trail after her like a collared dog for countless millennia?
"Ah. He will be directly under my command, my most loyal subordinate."
You are hurt, more than you would like to admit. Makima does not care for her dogs, but you could at least hope she loved you only a fraction of what you feel for her. In the end, it will be her, and Chainsaw Devil, and the world. No place for you.
You take great care to show no outward reaction. She will pick up on the smallest of details, a trait that could potentially greatly complicate your life.
Makima resumes her actions of running her fingers through your hair, coaxing you into her lap. Exhaustion prompts you to close your eyes. In the split second between semi-consciousness and sleep, you remember that she hadn't answered you initial question.
"Dear [Name]," she laughs to who who cannot hear. "Please do not worry, for even a god requires someone to rule by His side."
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Chainsaw Man and the Four Horsemen as a parallel to societal development
Since Famine first showed up, there was a lot of surprise at the idea that the four Horsemen might consider each other to be siblings. Fami is our second look at the relationship between the four of them, the first being Makima’s desire to erase the others, which, put together with Yoru’s panic at Fami’s introduction, paints a picture of a contentious, if not antagonistic relationship between them.
What surprised me, however, is the relative lack of discussion on what the “big sister” part says about the four devils. When we consider that the Horsemen represent fears humanity had to bear since ancient times, age becomes relevant, and by thinking about this relationship we can glean what this quarter represents about society’s historical development, and in what way it’s an inversion of the Book of Revelation’s original Horsemen.
From Makima, we already knew the Horsemen are a disarrayed unit, so Famine considering War to be her little sister has one chief implication to me: Famine, the devil, is older than War, and so is her name. Fami, or something like her, came into the world before the devil who became Yoru did. But what does this mean, that humanity feared Famine before War? Let’s look at each of the four names and see how and when they would have come about.
When the Lamb broke the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, "Come." I looked, and behold, a pale horse; and he who sat on it had the name Death; and Hades was following with him.
Death is the foundational fear, and thus the oldest. Every living being is afraid of it, every other primal fear is an extension of it. Darkness, the first primal devil shown to us, is feared for the danger and isolation night brings. One are afraid of it because something unseen will end their life, or because they will be lost and will die alone.
When He broke the third seal, I heard the third living creature saying, "Come." I looked, and behold, a black horse; and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. And I heard something like a voice in the center of the four living creatures saying, "A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; but do not damage the oil and the wine."
Famine, or Hunger, in its more basic form, is likewise an extension of Death. Hunger always meant a slow and painful death for yourself and your family. At humanity's dawn, it was inescapable — a fact of life, as there was simply not enough food to sustain us without starvation, not even taking droughts and natural disasters into account. Eventually sedentary lifestyles emerged, which prompted increases in population densities, a trend reliant on a more efficient way to acquire food. This strengthened or even gave birth to Famine, as sedentary societies turned hunger into a massive catastrophe. Now, not only will your family starve, but so will other families, and the people reliant on you growing the food.
When He broke the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come." And another, a red horse, went out; and to him who sat on it, it was granted to take peace from Earth, and that men would slay one another; and a great sword was given to him.
War, unlike Hunger, is tied near-entirely to larger societies. Higher population densities require vastly more resources, including food. It will become that armed conflict will be used to acquire these now-coveted resources, like food during times of hunger. Plowshares, created to stave off Hunger, to stave off Famine, are now used to kill other people to execute War. There is fear of being killed by your fellow; fear of your loved one dying far from home, killed for food, land, or dominion.
Then I saw when the Lamb broke one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as with a voice of thunder, "Come." I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
Death and Famine are extremely base fears; they are very materialistic. War, being a fear of what other humans might do to you, is more abstract and reliant on historic developments, but it is still a very grounded fear, based on the easy to grasp principle of not wanting to die. Conquest, on the other hand, is a very abstract and extremely human (in the sense of belonging to humanity) concept. The word itself brings to mind War, yet implies so much more. It is a fear of being unable to control your own life — a fear of submitting to an authority, like a king; a fear of institutions bigger than you can imagine leaving you with no choices; a fear of people you had never known taking advantage of you, forcing themselves onto you. It is, in some ways, the most human of all fears. It is something only humans can exercise on each other, somethings one can expect only from other humans, and something reliant on history moving away from things so basic as Famine, and through tools like War, towards a future of society, of governance, of Control.
It only makes sense that such an abstract fear, so foundational to civilization in its pervasiveness, would be youngest among the three other pillars of societal fears: Death births Famine births War births Conquest. And an aspect to this order, which we can contrast with the source material for the Horsemen, is that this order is an inversion: in the Book of Revelations, the prophesied Apocalypse follows the breaking of 7 seals, each hailing catastrophes to come; the first four releasing Horsemen into the world.
Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by the wild beasts of the earth.
The order in which they are released (Conquest, War, Famine, Death), though, is opposite to the order of each one’s emergence in the history of humanity.
Fujimoto, having given an age to the Horsemen of the Apocalypse, inverted the process: they symbolize not the end of a civilization, but its genesis. However, the original order is still present. As Chainsaw Man’s engine revs again, Conquest — the youngest sister — answers the call. Then War. Now Famine. Soon, we shall meet Death.
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kobeni’s devil
!! spoilers for chainsaw man !!
so, episode 9 came out and i watched it with vigor. as expected, kobeni slayed this episode and didn’t disappoint me with her moves. damn, she was quick. you really can’t have a pure hatred for kobeni, it will always have love in the mix.
and while i was thinking about her, i got curious about her devil again. really, what is this big secret... why was she the only one who got out alive after 100 chapters while other characters like aki and power were ultimately killed off? she surely has relevance in the plot and there is a reason why her devil is concealed as a secret. a devil like that would be thought of as a dangerous one because kobeni can’t even say its name.
naturally, i go to a full-on zoning out session thinking of the many possibilities of kobeni’s devil.
i. well, first, i thought of the possibility of her being a devil that has a human-like appearance like makima, yoru and fami. that is a good theory, but her having a family and a brother denounces it a bit. i’m not saying that devils don’t have families and aren’t capable of being raised by one (makima was raised by the government, that’s why she’s like the way she is, if that ever counts as a family). i’m not particularly fond with this one, though, since kobeni is pretty much the most human person in the whole cast. i mean, look at her.
scared shitless. if she was a devil, she would’ve been happy. devils thrive on fear, they don’t live with it. that would be pretty fun, though.
ii. moving on. she could have a contract with the death devil. it’s probably the most overstated theory and for good reason. first of all, i’ve read this comment in a reddit post about a totally unrelated, regardless interesting, observation on chapter 113.
the comment reads:
Getting back to my tangent about the Four Horsemen: the Four Horsemen are unique because, unlike normal devils, who only use fear, the Horsemen are each able to use one of the four emotions unique to humans, listed by the Doll Devil in ch 63:
Conquest uses Worship (aka reverence). So long as humans revere her, they hold her in a "higher place", allowing her to control them. Put from her POV, that means that, so long as the human is "lower" than her, she can control them.
Conquest bends the "rules" around devil contracts in two ways. The first way is obvious - she can force "lesser" humans to submit to her contracts. The second way is by being able to claim ownership over other devils. This means that, unlike a normal devil, Conquest can use other devils like as though they were part of her own body. This gave her the ability to use Angel's powers as though they were her own. This also means she could offer the bodies of other devils in her contracts, as we saw with Aki and the Gun Devil.
War uses Guilt. The greater the guilt she feels, the stronger the weapon she creates. The irony here is that War is so selfish and so absent of the understanding of right and wrong that she's unable to feel much guilt over anything she does. She blames Pochita for her current weakness, but really, she's inherently pretty weak compared to the other Horsemen, just because of this anti-synergy with her own power.
War bends the "rules" by forming completely lopsided "contracts". Like Makima, Yoru removes the human's consent from the equation - if she claims ownership, so long as it's something she can touch, she can weaponize it. But the person turned into a weapon gains nothing from it, the only benefactor is Yoru. Completely one-sided "contracts".
Famine uses Adoration/Respect. We'll see what this means exactly later, but I think I kind of touched on it in my other comment. War and Famine are a yin and yang duo - Yoru is "night", while the heart of Justice "shines with light". And while Yoru is completely selfish and devoid of the understanding of good and evil, Famine seems stuck doing things for others (in other words, is "selfless"), all while being very concerned with the understanding of good and evil. Yoru's power is based on guilt, aka, being able to sense the evil in yourself. So hence, I suspect Famine's "Respect"-based powers are based on being able to sense the good in other people.
Famine bends the "rules" by also forming completely lopsided contracts. The difference is, while Yoru only takes... as Yuko pointed out, Justice only gives. My guess is that, if Famine senses that a human is "good", she can form zero-cost contracts.
Death uses Pity. Pity is the feeling you get when you watch other living things suffer. The idea that Death gets stronger from feelings of pity sends shivers down my spine...
This is especially the case if it's true that every Horseman is trying to cancel out the source of their own power. Conquest's dream is to form equal, nonhierarchical, relationships, which flies in the face of a being whose power is based on hierarchy. So if Death wants to be rid of the "source of its power", too, then wouldn't it have to get rid of all suffering?
notice something about death. death is also powered by pity. kobeni is pretty damn pitiful in almost all her screentime, manga or anime, except her fabulous show in episode 9. but she did experience a lot of torment and she is generally seen as pitiful. maybe, just maybe, that pity she gets from other people is what feeds the death devil. and having to survive all what happened in the past arcs, i wouldn’t be surprised if she ever was involved with such a mortifying devil like the death devil. she dodged death in multiple occasions, it’s like death sided with her. another thing, in hell or chapter 63-64, the darkness devil didn’t even try to kill her. maybe it’s scared?
it’s also such a fun concept to think about. this traumatized girl who is about to shit herself has a contract with the death devil. fucking metal. the thought alone deserves its own book.
iii. kobeni has a contract with the luck devil! a lot of people agree with this one! i don’t know if it’s good luck or bad luck, though. she seems to somehow have both, so i’m not sure. many people do lean into the idea of a “chance devil”, but i’m pretty certain, if that was the case, it would be the “bad luck” or “misfortune” devil. if there was a luck devil, why would anyone fear good luck? it would’ve been extremely weak because, in retrospect, no one would fear good luck.
so, bad luck. in this article, it stated that kobeni somehow feeds the bad luck devil with her own bad luck and fear, explaining why she doesn’t sacrifice her body parts.
although this is good, personally i don’t favor it too much. fujimoto is known for his chaotic direction of his manga and always being spontaneous that you can’t predict it, but it’s done so, in a way, that it’s orchestrated. hints are left, foreshadowing is present; it’s chaotic but makes sure to make sense to us too. a good story should make sense while maintaining its unpredictability. so, a death devil is already hinted. a bad luck devil is not. (yet)
well, this theory will just have to wait for a while. maybe, there will be a time when a bad luck devil will appear or get mentioned.
iv. in this post, kobeni is theorized to be contracted with a devil connected to survival. for one, if that devil were to be connected to survival, it could either mean: a fear of death or a fear of getting hurt.
a fear of death relates to the death devil.
a fear of getting hurt relates to a pain devil of some sorts. a pain devil would be cool because it will be powerful. almost all humans are scared of being hurt and will make a bit more sense in the storyline, considering that her line of work is potentially getting hurt and seeing others getting hurt because of her. pretty neat theory!
v. same post in iv, there’s a comment where she might be have a contract with the knife devil. although, there is no evidence to back this up, her main weapon of choice is a knife. in a way, it makes sense.
v. car devil. no questions. in fact, according to u/LeynaSepKim, it was even foreshadowed in chapter 5, in their post.
all are only speculation! feel free to correct me or add some other theories. the only thing we can do to form more theories and solidify existing ones is to wait. we have yet to see her full potential. she is shown to be athletic in the anime and the manga, but not her power in its entirety.
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Hi Makima chan,I Love you. Merry Christmas:)
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So as horsemen being fears created by man. All of them required ability to manipulate or view humans differently.
By guilt, starvation, lesser than, or possession.
But let’s look at Fami’s power. 100% she’s also the justice devil. The more starve one is for what they want the more control Fami has on them to use as a devil.
Oblivious the horsemen have no issue use each other for their own selfish needs. Fami views Yoru as her sister. But still wishes to use Yoru for her personal gain. War is weaken so it’s more easy for Fami do that to “ help” Yoru
One can only assume marine how Death devil uses their powers on people..
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Chapter 133 of CSM has a lot going on and I love that but here’s a longpost about Yoshida Hirofumi because he’s a really interesting and important character in part 2 so far, but we know very little about him!
Chapter 133 makes Yoshida’s affiliation clearer, it seems that he is working with Public Safety. And based on his coworker’s response to his distress, it seems he isn’t being taken seriously.
I dunno, that guy doesn’t seem like he’s (Guy in the suit walking the dogs) trying to kill Nayuta. He seems pretty chill, wheras Yoshida is freaking out. I think Yoshida was lying to Denji about the threat to kill Nayuta. Which would make sense! It would be stupid to kill Nayuta, public saftey probably knows this as they know firsthand how powerful both Makima/The Control Devil and Denji/Chainsaw man are.
I think that Yoshida is genuinely trying to protect Denji in his own way, but I don’t think that public safety knows/cares about what he’s trying to do. He’s basically just making himself more important and inserting himself into Denji’s life because he wants to be friends with Denji and does not know how to make friends.
This is pretty telling, especially given Yoshida’s attitude towards other characters. He’s polite even if a bit blunt, but never friendly. Nor does he make any effort to be, except with maybe Kishibe. And Denji, obviously. He shows up, does his job, and leaves.
Yoshida doesn’t have an official backstory, but based on what we know about him there’s a few things that stick out.
He’s a prodigy devil hunter, was well-known enough for Makima to hire him, and he held his own in a fight against Quanxi.
He’s around the same age as Denji (Being able to transfer into Denji’s High School, mentioning having to study for finals)
He cares greatly about Denji, even if it’s just because of his job.
None of the other characters know much about him either (except maybe Kishibe, he seems to be a mentor figure)
I think his situation is probably similar to Aki’s, in that he lost his family and felt Devil Hunting was the only thing he could do. While some people choose to become devil hunters, it isn’t a great job and most people would choose something else if they could. There has been no mention of Yoshida’s family. He has enough money to treat Denji at the cafe, but (reasonably) complains when Fami orders the whole menu. People at school only seem to know him as “that guy who’s a devil hunter”.
He probably started devil hunting at an early age based on how skilled he is, and while he goes to school he doesn’t seem to have any friends. If he was constantly training and fighting in between going to school, he probably never made friends. And from his job, he probably saw a lot of people die in front of him and had to kill a lot. Similar to Denji, but Yoshida’s family is a mystery and he seemingly was taken in by Kishibe or another Public Safety member and was able to go to school.
I think he’s similar to Makima in that he wants to have connections and relationships with people but goes about it in a horrible way. I also think he’s an interesting parallel to Denji, who is always up-front about what he wants. Yoshida has never given any obvious indication to his motives outside of “protect Denji” (And even that’s unclear what that means to him!). He hides all of his emotions under an unchanging smile that I was genuinely surprised when he got visibly angry this chapter.
Killing a man in an alleyway: :)
Being trapped in an infinite aquarium: :)
Talking to one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse: :)
Denji being stubborn asking a group of protesters to kill Yoshida: >:(
The panel after Denji yells that he wants the protestors to kill Yoshida. I think that’s the first time Yoshida looks genuinely hurt. Bro looks like he got stabbed and hes dying. Even though Yoshida knows he is in no danger from the protestors, they don’t know Denji is chainsaw man and they probably didn’t hear him either. He just gets irritated when Denji says he wants to be Chainsaw man and have Nayuta alive or when he thinks Denji is being dumb.
What really stuck out to me was his reaction. He’s irritated before, but after that he really gets visibly upset. Sure Denji has insulted him and threatened him before, but he never made any move to actually do anything. But Yoshida knows that Denji probably thought that he could kill Yoshida by yelling at the protestors, Denji expressed that he genuinely wanted Yoshida gone, and there is nothing Yoshida can do to make him stay.
Which is pretty understandable, Yoshida has kidnapped and stalked Denji, and even if he has good intentions that’s just creepy and he shouldn’t do that!
I think that by trying to prevent Denji from ever transforming into chainsaw man, he is, in his own way, trying to prevent the prophecy from being fulfilled. Fami wants to prevent it by killing chainsaw man, because she thinks that the prophecy can’t be fulfilled if there is no chainsaw man. Which is probably what Yoshida is thinking, but he doesn’t want to kill Denji and he doesn’t want an age of devils to arrive, and Yoshida doesn’t want to choose between the two.
So he’s trying to prevent chainsaw man from existing by trying to convince Denji to have a normal life, and Denji doesn’t want to choose between the two.
But if Denji chooses both options, to be chainsaw man and have Nayuta in a normal life, Yoshida thinks he will have to choose to kill chainsaw man or live in an age of devils, which he doesn’t want either of.
I think it’s just interesting about all the choices!!! I also think Yoshida and Denji have a lot of similarities. I’m also biased towards Yoshida since I think he’s super neat so I also could just be making up excuses for him to not turn out to be evil bc I don’t want him to be evil :(
#csm#csm spoilers#csm manga#cube reads: csm#yoshida hirofumi#denji hayakawa#csm theory#csm part 2#chainsaw man#yoshiden#kinda ig#theyre silly
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chainsaw man 131
YEAHHHH she's back!
nayuta's little smirk in the second panel, oh, that is all denji.
1) famine... is on the side of humanity? it makes you wonder, if one of the four horsemen is against the apocalypse, then who exactly is driving it forward? death? probably the other major devils?
2) nayuta is suchhh a kid. i love it 🥹 i think she'll get more eldritch little kid moments (like her introduction) going forward, but i like how she's extremely distinct from makima. whoever she was in her previous life, in this life she's denji's little sister who would be distraught if the world ended and there was no pizza.
3) famine can control things that are "starving." but you know, there are so many kinds of starvation... the actual physical kind, the kind where you're starved for affection... basically i feel famine and yoshida are gonna collide sometime soon. im pretty sure their cafe chat was foreshadowing for that, and yoshida's mini-lecture re: the benefits of parasocial relationships has convinced me that this is a deeply lonely, fucked-up little guy. (but hey, this is fujimoto. never predict anything!)
SCRUNKLY!!!! also you have to wonder... did nayuta pick her hairstyle herself or did denji pick it for her? their dynamic is so insanely fascinating...
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