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#Dalinar: YOU CANNOT HAVE MY PAIN!!!
nerfmarch · 3 months
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I am almost finished with Oathbringer (SUCH a good book probably my fave in the series so far) and like. 50% of the time when i am listening to the audiobook, i’m simultaneously playing a really mindless video game.
Anyway realized in horror tonight that I now associate the most dramatic, climactic, emotionally devastating moments in this book with the popular Roblox game Spongebob Simulator. Not sure what to do with that information.
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koravelliumavast · 2 years
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Lifehack! Don’t do this. Unless you want to cry
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gloryofdawn · 8 months
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So like
Does anyone else think about the parallels between Dalinar and Mayalaran? Like a lot?
Because good God, I sure do.
The "You cannot have my pain" and "You cannot have my sacrifice" scenes almost run one to one against each other, honestly.
In each, the focus character is, until the most critical moment, at the mercy of an unjust ruler -- Odium for Dalinar, and arguably the entire upper echelon of Lasting Integrity for Maya. This ruler seeks to use the character to achieve their victory. Dalinar will be Odium's champion, Maya will be the tool that keeps any more Honorspren from leaving Lasting Integrity to become a deadeye (from their point of view, anyways). Amusingly, each scene also has one of the Kholin brothers watching on helplessly, though I don't know that the identity of the observing characters necessarily bears much literary weight. Anyways, the rulers are all but crowing their victory when the unthinkable happens. Dalinar refuses to reject the responsibility and guilt of his war crimes. A deadeye speaks. You cannot have my pain. You cannot have my sacrifice. I killed my wife. I chose my own fate. The balance of power immediately changes, with Dalinar spearheading a spanking so hard that Taravangian is probably feeling the aftereffects and Mayalaran causing a completely upset in the trial that doesn't just see Adolin victorious, but fucking unseats the Honorspren hierarchy.
We haven't seen much else of Maya, obviously, but I'm very curious and very excited to see how far these parallels go. Will the millennia spent as a deadeye prove similar to the experience of having memories suppressed by Cultivation? Will Maya and Adolin bring about a revival of the deadeyes like Dalinar and the Stormfather revived the Knights Radiant? What's Maya's place in Cultivationspren society, and will her time as a deadeye have her treated similarly to the bogeyman Dalinar was regarded as before he got his shit together? There are so many possibilities that I'm concerned that they won't fit in KoWT. I'm sure Sanderson has a plan and is going to treat this as the important plotline it obviously is, but Maya has rocketed up to like my second or third favorite character (partially because Dalinar is my favorite and these parallels are phenomenal) and I need this.
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cosmerelists · 6 months
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Pros and Cons of Stormlight Characters in the Middle Seat Next to You on a Budget Airline.
As requested by anon. :)
1. Kaladin
Cons: His legs are so long. His hair is so luxurious. His shoulders are so broad. This large, beautiful man is not trying to be in your space, but the budget airline seat cannot contain him. Pros: You started what you thought was an idle conversation, but by the end of your flight, he had diagnosed your chronic pain and become your therapist??
2. Shallan
Pros: Well, she's more of a regular-sized human and she's friendly but quiet. She seems to just want to sketch the whole flight, so no complaints! Cons: Why does she keep staring directly at a space across the plane and sketching the creepiest symbol-headed creatures you've ever seen with her eyes vaguely glazed over like she doesn't even know she's doing it holy shit is this a Twilight Zone situation where there are invisible gremlin monsters on this plane that only she can see and is it your imagination or do you hear humming from somewhere
3. Adolin
Cons: Listen, this is a budget airline, and this guy seems to think it's a fancy spa?? He's got the slippers, the posh eye mask, the luxurious travel pillow, some really nice face creams, and he seems to be video chatting with a girl even though the internet on the plane doesn't even work. Frankly, you're jealous and grouchy about it. Pros: Okay, he actually seems really sweet and he gave you some of his way-too-nice-for-an-airplane snacks. You take it all back; this guy is awesome.
4. Szeth
Pros: He is so still. So quiet. Almost folded in on himself. Barely...breathing? Honestly, you keep forgetting the middle seat is occupied, and how rare is that! Cons: You just...you think you'd feel better if he just blinked. Just once. Please.
5. Lift
Cons: You had to sigh just a little when a little kid plopped down next to you. Also, she goes to the bathroom every five minutes, and comes back with food every time. You think she might be robbing people. Pros: She complimented your butt quite sincerely. You've always been kinda self-conscious about your butt! But apparently yours is the "second best she's ever seen." Feels nice.
6. Jasnah
Pros: Like, is it possible for someone to just be really good at flying? She came in, expertly stowed her luggage, sat down elegantly, did her seatbelt, used a wipe to clean up the tray table and surrounding area, and immediately starting reading some thick tome. Do you have a crush on her? You might have a crush on her. Cons: She glanced at the book you're reading, and you know she judged you for it.
7. Wit
Cons: Does this guy EVER stop talking? Pros: Okay, actually, you found him kind of annoying at first, but that story he told you about the temple and the duck might have healed years of trauma? Did you just realize that you don't have to forgive your mom and that's okay?
8. Renarin
Pros: He sat down and you were like, "Okay. Cute nerd. I dig it." Cons: You just wish he wouldn't scrawl foreboding-seeming numerals on the back of the airline chair in front of him. Is it counting down to...just before the plane lands? What does it mean???
9. Amarem
Cons: He came in and was IMMEDIATELY like, "I am taller than you and so I should have your seat." And then he just...waited? Like he thought you'd just comply??? Pros: He seems intent on pretending that never happened. Fine by you. That guy seems like an asshole.
10. Zahel
Pros: He falls asleep, like, immediately and doesn't stir for the entire flight. Cons: He's just kinda stinky.
11. Dalinar
Cons: He sits down and, unprompted, says something like, "In my youth I would always battle to occupy every armrest but now, after reading The Way of Planes, I have realized that it is the journey, not the armrests, that matter, so you can have them" and then you're like, "Dude, the person in the middle seat gets the armrests that's just common courtesy" and then he looks at you and you look at him and it's vaguely awkward the whole flight and nobody uses the armrests. Pros: Actually, after a while you do take the armrest and the tension goes down a lot.
12. Taravangian
Pros: He just kinda seems like a nice old man, you know? Kinda confused about stuff, but harmless enough. Cons: He falls asleep partway through and droops his head onto your shoulder and drools a bit and you know you sound ridiculous but it feels somehow calculated. Intentional. Evil.
13. Sebarial
Cons: The very second beverage service starts he's all, "Bring me a BOTTLE of wine" and you're like, "Oh no. It's one of those dudes who gets way too drunk on planes!" Pros: You know? This guy actually seems pretty jolly and chill. You catch yourself thinking, "I wish I could pretend he was my uncle." You're not sure where that came from.
14. Rock
Pros: He scoffs at the provided airline snacks and gets out this thermos and gives you the best damn soup you've ever had in your life. Cons: He's just a large, warm man. Very large. Very warm. Not his fault, of course, but now YOU are very warm.
15. Elhokar
Cons: Every time there is plane turbulence, he mutters something about how it's the assassins coming to finish the job. Poor dude must be really scared of flying. Pros: You feel a warm, parental feeling growing in you as you look at this sad, scared man. Maybe your mom was right. Maybe you WOULD be good with kids.
16. Eshonai
Pros: This lady is, just, SO excited to be traveling that it can't help but make YOU excited to travel. Like, you always thought plane travel sucked, especially budget airline travel, be she is so delighted by everything that you find yourself thinking, "You know, it IS pretty amazing that we're soaring through the sky right now traveling to a new land." Cons: Cons? No cons. You wish you could ALWAYS see flying through this woman's eyes.
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thesitcomarchive · 6 months
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"You sent it to the sky to die, thief, but the sky and the winds are mine. I claim them, as I now claim your life." Kaladin cries, stormlight puffing from his lips, at a sky-eel that just stole his bowl of stew. "You cannot have my pain!" Dalinar proclaims, bellowing, when offered an ice pack.
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stormblessed95 · 10 months
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"You Cannot Have My Pain"
- Oathbringer, Brandon Sanderson
The scene made me cry in the book and this guy delivered it SO WELL omg. Dalinar 😭
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nat-seal-well · 1 year
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Literally how was I supposed to read Dalinar’s “YOU CANNOT HAVE MY PAIN” speech in Oathbringer and not become like. A fundamentally different person after?
It lives in my head rent-free. I want to put each word in my mouth so I can roll them around on my tongue like a hard candy so that I can consume them again. I quote that scene daily, I lean on it whenever things get so dark. I’m sorry to anyone whose ever gone to me for advice because I can assure you I’ve quoted it at least once every time.
“Journey before destination. It cannot be a journey if it doesn’t have a beginning… I will take responsibility for what I have done. If I must fall, I will rise each time a better man.”
And this is just the battle scene with Odium. I haven’t even brought up Dalinar’s writing at the end of the book, because that makes me want to go just as feral.
“The most important words a man can say are, ‘I will do better.’”
“I have found, through painful experience, that the most important step a person can take is always the next one.”
Like. Read those and tell me you don’t want to carry them around with you for the rest of forever.
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teftdenial · 1 year
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French bakery owner dalinar be like you cannot have my pain
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the-lady-hestia · 9 months
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Hi I’m like 7/8 done with Oathbringer and there’s an idea for an edit to a specific version of My Way by Frank Sinatra in my head and I need it to be written down or I’m gonna go insane.
Mild spoilers (but I’m gonna try and be vague about it)
The first verse is obviously just going to be all the bad shit all the characters have gone through.
Kaladin at the Honor Chasm, Dalinar at his lowest after Evi, szeth walking up to Gavilars room, etc.
The second verse starts with the word regret so obviously I’m thinking some kind of wide shot of the city burning after Dalinar fucked up (that or Dalinar looking at soul cast Gavilar’s statue). After that I’m thinking bridge runs and Kaladin being left in the storm, Shallan getting all messed up about her identity
The second verse picks up after a while and I’m thinking a specific scene where Teft notices Kaladin redirecting the arrows and maybe one of Hoid’s inspirational moments
And then the crescendo. “For what is a man? What has he got?” Dalinar swearing his oaths. Kaladin speaking the words.
“If not himself, then he has naught” bridge 4 running and not dying
“To say the things he truly feels” Kal fighting the shardbearer on his own
“And not the words of one who kneels” Dalinar keeping a whole ass building together in the vision with Venli
“Let the record show” bridge 4 training with their lashings
“I took the blows” kaladin protecting the village of parshmen while he was their “prisoner”
“And did it my way” ends on a very wide shot of Uritheru
Edit: "You cannot have my pain" needs to be in here somewhere. My man Dalinar is truly and without contest the GOAT
I know this is probably nonsense to most people but like I need this series to become visual media. It is necessary for my survival. I just know if they do it live action or an animated series (please god if it’s anything let it be an animated series) that Brando would move heaven and earth to create the most excellent production possible
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cosmermaid · 1 year
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I was having shower thoughts about drawing comics some day of scenes from the Final Empire. But I will probably piss off a lot of people by swapping out Dockson and Mare for who the fridged character is.
I already know how I would go about making the change work but my biggest reason about it is that Dockson's backstory that he tells Vin is about a system that targets women. And I personally think it's a story better told by a woman.
Besides, Mare's death is not as vital to Kelsier's characterization as say, Evi to Dalinar's. Mainly because Kelsier isn't responsible for her death and doesn't have some big "you cannot have my pain" moment.
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chaos-monkeyy · 2 months
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🎨 ⇢ link your favourite piece of fanart and explain why you like it
Oooh I linked some stargate art for this one before but I'll also take the chance to throw a stormlight piece in here... It was hard to choose one cause I love everything lamaery does and especially everything with Dalinar, but
The part one comic from the "you cannot have my pain" scene, just. Fuck. One of my favourite scenes and the art is just incredible 😭
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The Ask Game!
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cosmererambles · 3 months
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Illidan just murdered Xe'ra and Wrathion is making it all about him. SMH Wrathion.
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That cinematic is so based. Not a fan of Illidan at all, but it reminds me so much of Dalinar in Oathbringer. "I AM MY SCARS!" "YOU CANNOT HAVE MY PAIN!"
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emrystheedgedancer · 2 years
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Which Stormlight book is your favorite?
Oathbringer, without a doubt. That final battle resonated with me so deeply.
"You cannot have my pain" is a sentence that lives rent-free in my head, especially the way Michael Kramer reads it.
I've been through a lot of mental health struggles in my life. I'm actually just now on the upside of one of the worst spirals I've had in a long, long time. And Dalinar's decision to fight through his pain and his choice to live in the present instead of giving away his emotions and responsibility for his own well-being resonates with me deeply.
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isdalinarhot · 4 months
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Now this is a rare post from me bc dysphoria usually gets in the way. But. DALINAR!!!!‼︎ my nipples are sore and chafed. Relieve the pain by SUCKING ON MY TITTIES MILK STYLE I cannot provide milk for you cuz I have an iud in but use your imagination <3
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blackthornass · 2 years
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i started rereading row today! my side project while i do it is to record every single thing dalinar does and the amount it sucks on a scale of 1 to 7 (1 is you cannot have my pain, 7 is “jasnah we cant outlaw slavery it will mess up the economy ☹️”). dunno what im gonna do with the data afterwards. make a chart maybe
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nat-seal-well · 2 years
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Can’t talk rn I’m thinking about Stormlight Archive and the parallels between Dalinar’s “You cannot have my pain!” line and Maya’s “You. Cannot. Have. My. SACRIFICE!”
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