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#DUNGEON MESHI SPOILERS
triptrippy · 2 days
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darling falin...
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dunmeshistash · 2 days
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Idk if this has been asked before but anything you wanna say about Lycion? like I love how he's basically a trans allegory
I love it too! I love Lycion so much, all the canaries to be honest, they're my favorite gender.
Here's his extra from the adventurer's Bible for those who haven't seen it
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I think people smarter than me have made great analysis of his character and how it relates to being trans/body dysmorphia. But I'm really happy he got a body where he feels more comfortable in, and I love the bit from the beastmen monster tidbit where Laios judges him for not being an accurate furry and Lycion calls him an wannabe lmao. Get his ass Lycion
I am also completely in love with his friendship with Fleki. Makes me really happy to see an intense friendship between opposite genders cause it's so rare. And they're both so precious.
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Getting a little off topic but I can't with the canaries... Did you know Otta is Butch/Masc presenting? I couldn't tell because the Elves are all so androgynous I assumed the short hair was normal but apparently its an active choice for her to look more masculine I love it.
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It's more obvious in the modern clothing drawings
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Sorry I got side-tracked, it's cause these are the canaries to me
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posting this page cause i’ve seen a few people theorizing which imposters came from whose memories and i’d like people to know there’s a whole page confirming which is which
image id in alt text, credit to @quailfence for writing it (thanks!)
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amygdalae · 3 days
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still obsessed w the way he LOCKS IN. barking is NOT a game to him
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Marcille is actually one of the biggest reasons it took so long to pinpoint which Chilchuck was the imposter in today’s episode.
The Senshi and Marcille imposters had their own reasons for being hard to decipher, but that was a joint effort on the party’s part. Chilchuck was the only example where a single member’s bias actually swayed the others so strongly that it made them all doubt themselves.
Ryouko Kui did an excellent job of giving us a rich background on how different races interact, and how they may descriminate against each other. Each of the races in this series struggles with these prejudices. Our main characters are not exempt from this, and we see it clearly in the way the shapeshifter manifested as each party member, showing us how the others percieve them.
Marcille knows Chilchuck well, and cares deeply for him as a friend. But she’s not immune to assumptions and biases that come from her elven background. The Chilchuck imposter we are faced with, when it’s down to two of them left, is Marcille’s memory of Chilchuck, Marcille’s perception of how he behaves.
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One of the first manifestations of this bias occurs when shapeshifter Chilchuck can’t get a jar open.
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The real Chilchuck knows that this would never happen—at least not in this way. Chilchuck is proud, yes, but he asks for Laios’ help all the time. Laios is actually one of the party members he is the most likely to ask help from, given how long they’ve known each other, and how much mutual trust exists between them.
However, the whole scenario isn’t right. Chilchuck wouldn’t give up so easily on opening something; his whole job is opening and unlocking things. He would never quit an attempt like this within 5 seconds, then run to Laios so that “big strong adult tall-man” can open it for him.
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Marcille is the one who asks, “Huh? Why do you say that?” because Marcille is partially right. Chilchuck does rely on Laios, and Marcille knows this to be true. But she fails to realize how he relies on Laios.
Chilchuck respects many of Laios’ talents, but the most important ones are his combat skills, his emotional fortitude, and his quick thinking when delegating tasks. He trusts Laios as someone he is comfortable following (he literally said to him and Shuro in the last episode: “Laios!! Tell us what do!! Give us orders!!” when chimera Falin was quickly overpowering them).
So while Marcille almost understands Chilchuck’s confidence in Laios, she tends to accidentally infantilize him in the process.
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She immediately believes that Chilchuck B (the imposter, who is specifically using her own memory as its base for Chilchuck’s personality) is the real one, and says so, because she’s blinded by her perception of him as being childlike and adorable because of the very common racial prejudices that half-foots deal with all the time.
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She dotes on the imposter, and is open with her affections, as usual (again, her care for him is clear), but doubles down on that bias, on her own assumptions of Chilchuck’s behavior shown through her own lens.
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And ultimately, Laios was able to tell the difference, but only because he watched how the Chilchucks handled other minute tasks. Marcille’s stance on which Chilchuck was real truly did throw the others for a loop, at least until the threat passed. And honestly, that’s part of what makes the shapeshifter so terrifying. Its strategy almost worked.
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sabertoothwalrus · 3 days
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prokopetz · 3 days
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The interrogation of cultural differences in communication styles is neat and all, but I'm stuck on Toshiro's party healer sternly reminding everyone to make sure they've had all of their potentially life-threatening injuries healed before taking the portal back to town because resurrection magic doesn't work outside the dungeon. Like, the way she says it you 100% know this has come up before!
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artisfaction · 3 days
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Dungeon Meshi Manga Text Posts [ beware light spoilers ]
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And there was no caption that would have been be funnier than the original manga panel, so this is a BONUS, because I think everyone should see it.
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essekknits · 3 days
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ONE MORE THING ABOUT TODAY’S EPISODE!!!
I love that after everyone laughs at him and says there’s no way he’ll figure it out… Laios does figure everyone out. He figures out who is and isn’t the clone, because he cares, and he pays attention to who his friends are.
He knew Chilchuck’s fear and caution around mimics, so he knew the Chilchuck who so calmly sat on a box without checking it first wouldn’t be the real one.
He knew that Senshi cares about the environment and the dungeon, and would never be so dismissive about it as to throw “yeah I found a nest and took everything in it”. That just doesn’t fit the guy who told them not to take all the dryad fruit because that’s where dryads grow.
He knew Marcille gets stuck in her own head when she’s focused on something. She has A Problem at hand (the clone situation), and there’s no room for caution about other things. She isn’t thinking about the water spirit situation because that’s Past Problem, and she has Present Problem to focus on. She also doesn’t retain the kind of monster info Laios does.
Laios is blunt and wouldn’t notice a social clue until it slapped him in the face, and even then he’d apologise for accidentally running into it. But he does pay attention, and he does care. And yes, he put it in a way that relates to his monster interest, but that doesn’t mean he noticed them any less.
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apelgif · 2 days
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some girl drawings while i work on bigger things
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rybaris · 2 days
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She's out she's out she's out!
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rhinestonesox · 3 days
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the new dunmeshi episode was cool because we got to see 4 chilchucks instead of the usual 1 chilchuck. it was a chuckapalooza
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cemeterything · 2 days
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what did you think abt the way laios defeated the winged lion...,, when you said you started reading I rlly wanted to hear your thoughts on that specific scene
if i put on my big boy analysis pants at some point i'll try to come up with some more coherent and satisfying commentary on that entire sequence of events, but in the interest of answering your question quickly before i have to go to work, i absolutely loved that laios defeated the winged lion not through a contest of raw physical or metaphysical strength or intelligence (though it was undeniably an intelligent strategy which showed the sheer depth and wealth of laios' knowledge and understanding of monsters) but by using its own nature against it, setting it up as the architect of its own destruction. laios combined all the strengths of a predatory animal and an experienced hunter to distract the lion with a tantalising feast while he aimed for the one vital mark that would incapacitate it, and his gamble paid off as he was able to consume its entire reason for being, shrunken to a manageable size by the lion's possesion of laios' human body, whilst the lion was too busy trying to fit its jaws around the world to stop him. it kind of reminds me of how heracles bested the nemean lion, using its own claws and teeth to skin its pelt and claim it as his own.
also this panel just fucks so severely. "devourer of all things horrible", indeed.
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tizzymcwizzy · 3 hours
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!!!! the lore has dungeon meshi spoilers !!!!
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hey adrien why's ur family so fucked up
,,,,,,so uuuhhh i made a dungeon meshi x miraculous ladybug au HJEBEJDJFJSHH SORRY GUYS IM CRAZY
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eruhamster · 2 days
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Just a thought.
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Utterly tragic that Chilchuck canonically sees Senshi as a paragon of sex appeal and Senshi canonically sees Chilchuck as a small baby child in need of a parent
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