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thecrusadercomrade · 7 months

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How was Ducktales Finale? I think Ducktales does the best with it large cast and giving them stuff to do. How was Webby being a Clone/Daughter of Scrooge and she has sisters? How was Bradford? The Headless Horse Joke getting a pay off. Are you sad it over and glad you watch the series.

It was... fairly good. I'll admit it was a little bit underwhelming and didn't quite match the hype I'd built up, but I still enjoyed it.

It was great seeing so many characters come back for the final adventure, but I wonder if it was the best idea. For some reason, even with three entire episodes for the finale, it still feels like there wasn't enough time spent on everything. Maybe it would've been better if certain things had been introduced and built up earlier in the season.

It's Webby's dream come true XD. After spending some time looking into other peoples' reactions to the finale, I know some people weren't happy about the twist, but I actually like it. Webby had a good relationship with the rest of the family even before they knew she was blood-related, and this revelation doesn't devalue that. Also, it explains how Webby could perfectly imitate Dewey just by changing her hair, and why she looks so much like the triplets in general.

May and June were the best part of the finale to me, and I'm sad we didn't get more time with them. They were so cute! A part of me wishes they could've been introduced earlier in the season so we could get more of them. It would've been so cool to have evil wildly misunderstood versions of Webby to deal with and it might've given more time to see them as good guys rather than at the very last second.

Bradford went full villain in the finale. It reminds me of that meme where "the villain is making too much sense so we need to have him kick a puppy so that we can ignore the valid points he brings up". Don't get me wrong, it makes sense for Bradford with his obsession with order and control, but it still gave me those vibes. Absolutely insane that he effectively murdered people onscreen, including Black Heron.

The Man Horse stuff came a bit out of left field for me, and it resulted in us getting very little time with Phantom Blot and Pepper so I hated it /s

But seriously, it was... fine. Just feels like yet another thing thrown into a finale that already had too much stuff going on and not enough time.

I'm definitely sad to see it done, but I'm happy I started watching it in the first place. It's a shame they couldn't get another season.

#ask #ducktales 2017 #webby vanderquack #scrooge mcduck #dewey duck #may duck #june duck #bradford buzzard #black heron

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jedi-valjean · 2 years

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7, 17, 22, 23!

I'm going to do Star Wars and the DuckTales reboot for these

7. Is there anything you used to like but can’t stand now?

Star Wars: I would say The Force Awakens and The Mandalorian. The Force Awakens had some fundamental flaws that I ignored because the movie was fun and I assumed the other two would make up for them. Boy was I wrong. The Mandalorian had an excellent first season, but the second season was too cameo-heavy and I objected to Luke getting involved. But the second season didn't ruin it for me. The Book of Boba Fett did. Grogu had no business appearing in a Boba Fett standalone, and I felt that it was way too early to end his Jedi training and reunite him with Din Djarin. Plus, now people will have to watch TBOBF to understand Mando S3, and I don't like that at all. TBOBF should have been able to stand on its own. It's clear they only cared about teasing Mando S3. The fact that they frontloaded what should have been the beginning of S3 killed my hype and I'm probably not even going to bother with it.

DuckTales: Della. It's not even that she's a jerk and a bad parent, it's that the writers make excuses for it. They should've had someone with actual trauma write this show, because pretty much none of these characters' issues are addressed properly. They tried to make us like Della as a person rather than as a character. If she has a redemption arc, I must have missed it, because they did not put in the work to make her as sympathetic as they want her to be. I would have loved to have seen her held way more accountable than she was, and then maybe she could have grown into a sympathetic character naturally instead of just having the writers insist that she deserves the benefit of the doubt 99% of the time.

17. Instead of XYZ happening, I would have made ABC happen…

Aw, geez, just one? Alright then...

Star Wars: I would just revamp the entire Bad Batch. There are infinite ways I could do this. If I had to make just one change, I would make the Batch and the regs not hate each other. As is, The Bad Batch completely undermines the themes of brotherhood among the clones.

DuckTales: Don't make Webby a clone. The last thing her character needed was to be related to Scrooge McDuck by blood. She should have learned to grow beyond her obsession with him in her quest for family. Instead, she literally is him. I prefer my friend Cassie's take on Webby's parentage, where Bentina's daughter was in love with Donald but married someone else before dying in a tragic car accident. This ties her to the Duck family in a compelling way that isn't by blood, and also gives more depth to Donald's character. Losing the love of his life to another man and then to death is one of the juiciest Donald backstories you could come up with. It just adds so many layers, especially to his relationship with Webby and Mrs. Beakley. I may as well plug Cassie's fic here while I'm at it. Go read it. Seeing these characters actually take the time to process their trauma is so cathartic. Also, Cassie's version of Della is even more awful than in the show, and her character is all the better for it. It's just so much more honest of a take on the type of person Della is.

22. Popular character you hate?

Star Wars: Crosshair. He's the new Kylo Ren. Stop thirsting over these pasty, fugly fascist types. Giving Kylo a redemption was a huge mistake and giving Crosshair one will only make The Bad Batch an even more terrible show than it already is.

DuckTales: I was going to say Della, but honestly I don't completely hate her, I just prefer the version of her that's stuck on the moon. Now Goldie on the other hand... I mean, I just don't get her. She's just not executed all that well at all and honestly, I'm more confused about the appeal of her character than anything. She doesn't have enough chemistry with Scrooge to get me invested in their whole "exes to rivals with lingering romantic tension" thing. As far as trickster characters go she doesn't seem like anything special. I do kinda like her dynamic with Louie, but she just didn't hook me like a lot of the other characters. I mean the whole "betraying Scrooge at the end of every episode she's in" thing got pretty old fast. The tension between them falls flat for me when I don't see why they should still want each other.

23. Unpopular character you love?

Star Wars: FINN. But I don't think about Finn much anymore because the way they butchered his potential is too sad for me to dwell on.

DuckTales: Oh gosh. I'm both new and late to the DT17 fandom. I have no idea who's unpopular and whatnot. Can I say Donald? IDK if the fandom hates him but the writers sure did.

Thanks for submitting questions!

#star wars #dt17 #ask game

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cotton-tails · 3 years

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So I saw this last night, and the little angsty plot bunny in my head woke up and I just had to write something. Fully intended to be a drabble of sorts, but of course it turned into a four page tear-fest, so grab the tissues and strap in.

Oh, and I haven't edited this, it's just 3am word-vomit, so enjoy the mess!

“So, this hasn’t exactly gone to plan.”

Della snorts cheerlessly at Donald’s deadpan comment, struggling into a sitting position and wincing at a twinge in her elbow. The chains dig into her arms with every movement, a very clear upgrade from the ropes they’d all been able to break out of within several minutes not too long ago. These idiots don’t know who they’re messing with.

Or they do; probably a little too well, hence the plan that fell apart very quickly. And the chains. And the scary looking red lightning below them.

“Shut up!” Heron snaps behind them, cuffing Donald a little too roughly around the head.

He doesn’t react more than a sharp hiss and a dark glare behind him, and Della can’t help the sharp pang of guilt under the surge of anger. She bites back a comment, keeping her eyes fixed on the ground until the villain is out of earshot.

“I’m sorry,” she breathes, keeping her voice low.

“What? Why?” Donald sounds confused but she can’t bring herself to look at him.

“You should be with Daisy right now,” she says, “I’m the one who guilted you into staying, into coming on this stupid trip. And now we’re facing the very real possibility of dying.”

Donald is quiet.

Forcing herself to look up, she frowns at the look on his face. He still doesn’t say anything, but the expression says it all; ‘Della-you-absolute-idiot-what-are-you-blathering-on-about?’

“I came on this stupid trip cause our kids were in trouble,” he hisses eventually, “my family were in trouble! You think I wouldn’t ditch my vacation in a heartbeat for any of you?”

“I-” Della starts, but her voice catches, rendering her utterly speechless. He’s not lying, she knows exactly what he would do for the family, for her. Yet, somehow that knowledge isn’t exactly helping.

She misses her chance to reply, all conversation cut off with the explosive arrival of Scrooge and Bradford through the roof.

Della clenches her fist and almost bites through the inside of her cheek as he slams to the ground. She manages to chime out a ‘Hey Uncle Scrooge,’ with Donald when his pained gaze finds them. Beakley mutters a sarcastic ‘Fantastic,’ from her other side. She can only watch as a now armoured Bradford, armed with the sword, picks him up by the back of his coat and drags him up the stairs. He’s blathering on about something, but she’s stopped listening; too busy focusing on her battered and beaten uncle and how this could have gone so completely and utterly wrong.

It’s the usual spiel anyway, threats to destroy his family, his adventures, everything he had worked for, blah blah blah.

Then the contract is revealed, and her stomach drops to somewhere around her knees. If they don’t find a way out soon, Scrooge will have to either sign his life away or they all die, and frankly, neither option sound particularly appealing.

It’s only when Bradford sacrifices his own agents that the desperateness of the situation really sinks in. It’s one thing to talk about murder, it’s entirely another to actually do it. And if Bradford is willing to throw away his own agents, Della can’t imagine what he would be willing to do to her family if Scrooge doesn’t sign.

He tries to buy some time. Della can almost hear the cogs turning in his head as he tries to figure out how to get out of this one. She huffs out a half-hearted laugh at the sharp quip about the fine-print. He’d figure something out, he always does. Not to mention the kids are bound to have found a way out by now, they’d pick up the rest of their allies and be on their way to disrupt the whole evil plan.

It’s just a matter of-

“Ugh! Enough stalling!”

Never mind.

“You need some incentive.”

Della does not like where this is going.

“Perhaps the life of your most trusted ally?”

The three of them snap their heads forward as Bradford stalks towards them, sword dragging on the concrete threateningly. As the screeching rings in Della’s ears, the only thought racing through her mind is ‘not Donnie, not Donnie, please, don’t take my brother.’

Her heart almost stops when he scoops Donald up by his collar, his cry echoing in her ears.

“Donald!” Three voices scream.

She can barely breathe, crippling panic bubbling up inside. All she wants to do is close her eyes and scream, break these chains and drag him back to safety, but she can’t move, she can’t take her eyes off her twin as he’s dangled over the edge.

“What will it be Scrooge? Adventure? Or your Family?”

‘Just do what he wants!’ She’s not ashamed of the thought. They’ll figure out a way to reverse the contract, there’s always a way, always a loophole. Just do it so she can see her brother safely on solid ground.

“Alright, I’ll do it.”

She can’t say she’s surprised at how quickly he gives in.

“No! Don’t!” Donald screams, “find a way out! You can beat him!”

The pen is already in his hand. “It’s not worth the risk lad.”

They can only watch in horror at the golden glow that circles around him, lifting him up and binding him with unbreakable chains that drag him to the ground.

“I did it!” Bradford crows triumphantly. “The great Scrooge McDuck, now only a poor old man!”

Della’s heart breaks just a little at the look of absolute misery on her old uncle’s face, but she doesn’t have time to mourn properly, because Bradford is talking. Again.

“Normally I wouldn’t indulge in such petty villainy,” he says, his gaze turning back to Donald, still dangling over the edge, with a glint in his eye that makes Della’s blood run cold. “But since this is a special occasion.”

He lets go.

Della’s eyes meet Donald’s for an agonising second, and then he’s gone.

There’s a flash of red, and someone is screaming.

She doesn’t even realise it’s her until a rough hand knocks her back.

“Shut it! Or it’ll be you next!”

Hot tears stream down her beak and she presses her forehead into the cold concrete, not even bothering to choke back a sob. Over the pounding of her own taunting heartbeat in her ears, she hears the sound of the machine powering down (‘Too late’ her traitorous mind provides), of her kids voices yelling something, and Scrooge shouting for them to be careful.

And Bradford, confused and angry as her family finally, finally step in to save the day.

His voice sets off something inside that she hadn’t felt since the day Lunaris betrayed her. A raging anger that burns through her, overwhelming any other emotion and completely taking over her mind.

The chains are no longer an obstacle, and even Beakley can’t stop her from launching herself at the buzzard. They tumble down the stairs, fists flying and feet kicking. Everything blurs after that, which may or may not be a side effect of a rather painful bump on the head as they hit the ground at the bottom of the staircase. She’s kicked off, then it’s just a cloud of lights and bodies and a strong arm holding her back from doing anything overly-reckless and potentially stupid.

The kids, her (their) beautiful, wonderful kids, figure out the loophole and the ever-binding contract disintegrates.

It’s done.

The maniacal villain is defeated once more. The world has returned to rights and the sounds of celebration fill the air.

But Della can only stand and watch, her hands trembling and eyes burning. Beakley stands behind her, hands hovering just behind her shoulders, ready to give comfort if needed.

He’s gone.

Her brother, the other half of her soul; just… gone.

And… oh.

Her knees buckle, a wrecked sob forcing its way from her throat. Beakley catches her with a arm round the shoulders and a hand under her elbow, lowering her gently to the ground as she crumples into a ball. She presses her hands to her eyes in a hopeless attempt to stem the tears as everything comes crashing down.

“It’s okay, let it out dear.”

He shouldn’t have been here. He should’ve been on that amazing adventure with Daisy, sailing together on that old houseboat. After everything life had thrown at him, after all the madness they’d been through, he’d finally caught a break, finally found that amazing person who loved him as fiercely as he loved her.

Then Della had come along, crying about lost time and not being ready. She hadn’t wanted to him to leave, even on a stupid vacation that he would very clearly be coming back from.

Now he wouldn’t even get the chance to go.

And it’s all her fault.

“Mom?”

The obvious confusion and concern in Huey’s voice is enough to send her tumbling over the edge all over again, fresh tears springing up at the thought of having to explain what happened to her- to his kids.

Scrooge hurries them away, and she tries not to listen to the hushed explanation, the startled gasps, and she has to cover her ears for the rest. She can’t stand it.

It’s all her fault.

“DELLA!”

‘What?’

There’s no mistaking that voice.

Her head snaps up so fast she’s half sure she’s given herself whiplash. Even through blurred eyesight, she knows that silhouette, that outfit, that stupid hat. She blinks, sniffing and scrubbing at her face with her sleeve, hardly daring to believe.

It shouldn’t be possible, there’s no way it’s possible. She saw it, she saw him fall, saw the flash of lightning, the empty space where he had been only moments before. She watched her own brother die. So how was he standing ten feet in front of her, laughing as he’s tackled by several small and colourful blurs?

A hand appears in front of her face and she looks up into the stunned face of her uncle. He looks almost as much of a mess as she feels, tearstains tracking down his cheeks and spotting on his coat.

“I think it might be best if we just don’t question it,” he says, helping her to her feet.

His hands are shaking as he holds hers tightly, but she doesn’t comment; it can’t be any worse than her own trembling limbs. They turn back to Donald, who’s ended up sat on the floor under the collective weight of the kids. He’s got a tearful Louie on his shoulder and several kids wrapped around his torso as he struggles to his feet, and Della can see him mouthing a headcount as he takes them all in.

“I swear every time we see you, you have more children.”

She hadn’t even noticed Panchito and José just beside him, grins wide and eyes twinkling with amusement and, in José’s case, something else that she can’t quite place. Donald just laughs at Panchito’s observation, the sound sweet as honey and causing even more tears to well up all round. The pure relief that sweeps through her is almost enough to make her knees give way again, but Scrooge’s hand gripping hers and Beakley’s arm still around her shoulders is just enough to keep her grounded.

Then he catches her eye.

“Hey Dells.”

The kids must see something in her face, cause they have to good sense to dart out of the way just moments before Della hurls herself at her brother. They almost topple backwards, but Donald is able to keep them just about upright while Della just focuses on wrapping her arms around him and burying her face in his shoulder. His arms circle her waist, holding her just as tightly. The tears are streaming freely now, but she’s beyond caring. He can yell at her about ruining his shirt later and she’ll just take it with a grin.

“You idiot!” she yells, her voice muffled by his shoulder, “I thought you were dead!”

“For a minute, so did I,” he says into her hair, “how about we just call it even?”

The soft jibe only makes her laugh, and she holds him just that little bit tighter.

Miracles do happen, and in the end all that matters is love, family and adventure.

But if he thinks she’s going to let him go galivanting off on some adventure without her now, then he’d better think again.

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seas-storyarchive · 2 years

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I'm going to say it.

Scrooge didn't need to be called "dad". Didn't DESERVE to be called dad. He did nothing to be deemed as a father to Webby. He ignored her for YEARS before the show started. He's an Uncle, not a Dad.

Things were fine. Webby as a clone? Awesome. Webby as Scrooge's clone? Explains why she acts like him, if that isn't intentional on her part. Being called a dad, when he didn't earn it? Nope. Not alright.

I hate that "reveal". It's so shoehorned and unearned and just not warranted at all. It was fine, up until that point. I mean, that just felt out of nowhere and it makes me uncomfortable but also angry. Scrooge, still being the one Webby was cloned from, as her uncle that she was close to. Webby, knowing the truth but still viewing him as her uncle because it felt wrong calling him anything else. It could still be found family with them, even if they are biological family, because none of them knew.

Also, it just feels so weird to me. Scrooge as a dad. When he's always been the Uncle? Yeah, hard pass chief.

Also Beakley is her grandmother. She's her family. She raised her. I feel like Webby calling Scrooge her dad just spits in Beakley's face. Just no.

Everything else is canon to me, but instead the line is:

"Stay away from my Uncle!"

Also, how are more people not as angry about this? How? It's basically erasing Beakley as Webby's guardian.

#i said what i said #ducktales 2017 #dt17 #scrooge mcduck #webby vanderquack #bentina beakley #scrooge doesn't deserve to be a dad #opinion

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peachhoneii · 3 years

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I really hated when Webby called Scrooge "Dad" I never really minded that Donald was never called Dad. Because he was a father in everything but name. When I a was done watching the finale. I was just like "Donald raises three boys for 10+ year. And is never Dad but after finding out she was cloned Webby immediately calls Scrooge "Dad""

I would of much rather she called him Uncle still. Because she knows even if she is his clone he is still not her father. Because scrooge has done nothing to actually be a father. He's a Uncle and that's fine.

It felt like it was supposed to be a heart warming moment. But it just fell flat because it wasn't earned. Out all the things I wanted to see Scrooge being called "Dad" was not it.

Oh and the part on the plane. You know the part where he's being over protective of Webby. Well ignoring May, and June, AND the boys,

Sure he hasn't bonded at all with the girls. But does that make it all right with me? Hell no May, and June, out all the kids there need support and love the most.

But is Scrooge willing to provide that? Nope not one bit. Not surprising it's Donald who steps up.

But he also ignores the boys. Remember he's known the boys and Webby for about the same amount of time. And he should love them just as much. But he's just like "who the fuck cares about those idiots? I have my daughter why should I care about them" (okay maybe I'm being hyperbolic)

But it just rubbed me wrong that he didn't care about the boys safety.

So instead of them trying to Force the narrative that scrooge is just a father now. I would much rather seen Gosalyn calling DW Dad. Because he's a dad.

He's not a dad because of blood but he stepped up when Gos needed him most. (You know like a parent) he's an actual dad.

Scrooge is not a Dad.

He's not a parent.

He hasn't earned the right to be one.

Beckley, has earned it. Drake, has earned it. Della, has earned (in my opinion) and Donald has definitely earned it.

Sorry that's this is so long I just love reading your post about this.

I don’t mind. No apologies needed.

I remember there was a lot of interest in the boys’ real dad. Frank was very adamant about Donald being their real dad.

It is a great thing. He is their dad in everything but name. We accepted him being just an uncle when he was really a dad.

With Scrooge? It’s actually insulting to Donald’s efforts as a parent. It’s really insulting to the theme they’ve emphasized so much in this show: family.

If Webby can call Scrooge dad because of a biological relation, don’t you think it’s a little strange that the two adopted dads (Donald and Drake) have not been referred to as such.

“Drake hasn’t adopted Gosalyn.” FYI, you don’t need documentation to call someone dad. We could’ve easily just inferred that Gosalyn got to a point where she started to see Drake as a dad.

I don’t get that.

Back to the whole “Found Family” trope is that Scrooge never treated Webby as a daughter. He treated her as a niece. As he treated Della. But their last scene together implies Scrooge learned his lesson for only his biological descendant.

That over protectiveness? That wasn’t there for Donald and Della. That wasn’t there for HDL. It wasn’t there for Webby up until that moment. I think he had a moment in their bonding episode, but after that? He went back to eccentric uncle.

If you have to mention family every other line, it loses its meaning and momentum. Of the characters, Scrooge didn’t earn his ending.

Frank even said Webby had to earn her place in the family. I just...she’s a child. No child should have to earn their place in their family. Della? She had to earn her place. She went on a joyride to space.

Scrooge doesn’t care about the not-Webby’s. That’s why Donald’s there. He’s there to clean up his irresponsible family’s fuck ups.

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