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I'm obsessed with this dark!Shepherds AU?? Could you tell us more about it? Or in a head-to-head fight, which Shepherds would win against their evil counterparts or vice versa?

Hi there, good question! I haven’t really given that much thought to the dark!Shepherds AU, but I imagine (if we’re making it very similar to the Justice League scenario) something happens to make the majority of the Shepherds snap, and they turn against the Autarchy and instate a form of governance based solely on power and domination. They think they’re doing what’s right by preventing conflict and protecting the world from demons, just like the Justice Lords felt when they took over the world. That being said...

Dark!Blade: Dark!Blade isn’t all that different from teenage/young adult Blade, who was perfectly comfortable with the idea of assassinating and killing people for his cause, and because he firmly believed it would lead to the greater good. Dark!Blade would be like that, but even colder and more ruthless than his past self. He would rid himself of all personal attachments, such as friends, family, and romance, believing that such feelings made him weak and hesitant, and made himself vulnerable to his enemies in the way that the Autarch was made vulnerable through her sons.

In a toe-to-toe combat situation, it’s hard to say who would win. Both have razor-sharp killing instincts and battle tactics, but I’m probably going to give it to Dark!Blade, because he would be willing to fight dirty (taking loved ones hostage, threatening kids or bystanders) and Blade would sacrifice himself willingly for others while Dark!Blade wouldn’t. So I’ll give it to him 90% of the time!

Dark!Trouble: I really can’t imagine a dark version of Trouble, not in the whole “bad Justice League” sense. I suppose he already walks a fine line between light and dark as it is; his relentless good, altruism, courage, and compassion make him a hero, but there’s that edge of temper, rage, and darkness (especially in his past--he was a criminal and killer-for-hire too, after all) that colors it as well. Like, now it’s fine for him to beat the everloving shit out of an asshole like Lazu Reen, but that could tip over to someone who’s not so black-and-white bad, too--he could turn that hatred towards an enemy who is more nuanced, like a politician who ultimately serves the people and does good, but who happened to make Trouble an enemy by personally slighting or hurting a friend, something like that. Trouble’s sense of loyalty tends to override his desire for justice in some ways, and I could see him supporting someone like Blade or MC to the end if they framed their endeavors in a way that could still be read as “good”. Like, yeah I had to kill this group of people, but it was for the greater good! And he’d be like “alright, I trust you!” He’s got your back even when the whole world turns against you, until there comes a point when he just can’t stand it anymore--but by then, he probably already did a lot of bad out of love of his friends.

If it were a death match between Dark!Trouble and our Trouble, I’m betting our Trouble would win, purely because Dark!Trouble’s desire to live would be just slightly lessened by the weight of all the deeds he committed. I don’t think he’s truly cut out to be bad, so our Trouble would probably win...

Truthfully, though, if we’re following the Justice League formula, I could see Trouble being the one dying to trigger the domino effect that leads to the Shepherds turning bad. Like the Flash (I’m pretty sure it was Wally West in JL), in a way, he’s one of the hearts of the Order that bridges them to the civilian population and vice-versa. If he were killed, I could see them falling into the path of darkness (with a lot of other factors involved, too).

Dark!Shery: we already know that Dark!Shery and Shery are one in the same, lol. I don’t think Dark!Shery would be so much like the bad Justice League; I think what would be dark about her would be her indifference, her total passive indifference to their quest for domination “for the greater good” and their thirst for revenge. Dark!Shery is more just personally angry, aggressive, loud, forceful, and selfish, but I don’t see any world where she sets out for power or world domination. If anything, I see Dark!Shery (in that AU) being petty and mean, ripping lollipops out of kids’ hands because she feels like it and not batting an eye at seeing a beggar collapse in the street.

That’s not to say drunk Dark!Shery is like that, I’m just taking her badness to an extreme in an AU where all of the Shepherds are bad!

In a fight, Dark!Shery would absolutely win, lol. She doesn’t have any better combat abilities than our Shery, but her sheer rage would be terrifying and would lend her crazy strength, lol.

Dark!Tallys: Tallys, too, already walks the edge of the path to darkness a little bit, I think. Obviously she’s chosen the good side, but in a different world where a demon promised her revenge for her fallen family and an opportunity to burn the Autarchy down, I think the younger her would have taken it. In a dark!AU where Trouble was killed or something, I think she would be like, “okay, fuck it” and give in to that doubtful, vengeful side of herself and just go apeshit on the world. She would be one of the people spearheading the plan to take over the world. She’d give lip service and say she was doing it for the greater good, but another part of her would revel in the blood and chaos. It wouldn’t heal the wound in her heart, though, and would only make her even more twisted and angry.

In a head-to-head first, I’m going to give it to our Tallys 60% of the time. Part of the thing that makes Tallys so effective in battle is her ability to sever herself from her emotions and maintain a cool head; she can detach herself from personal feelings and analyze combat with cold clarity. I feel like dark!Tallys would be easy to taunt into a rage, or she would let her hatred and thirst for blood cloud her mind, so I feel like our Tallys would have the advantage most of the time!

Dark!Riel: I say this in complete seriousness: in a world where Riel decided to turn evil or fall to the dark side, everybody is already fucked. He would absolutely be the most effective and terrifying villain out of the entire cast. He will rip, slash, and burn entire countries with the easy ruthlessness of an accountant making budget cuts. He knows a dozen ways to starve, lay siege to, and lead public campaigns against the enemy. He would be the scariest Autarch the world has ever seen. If you think he’s mean to his enemies like Ebert now, wait until he has no moral code holding him back...

It��s difficult to imagine a battle between Dark!Riel and our Riel, but I’m going to guess the utter dispassionate cruelty and lack of compassion in Dark!Riel would win 90% of the time. Our Riel has a little less edge than Dark!Riel, so for that reason, I think he would lose. And so would the world...

Dark!Chase: I feel like Dark!Chase is very similar to our Chase, just colder, more ruthless, and bloodthirstier. He’d take genuine pleasure in torturing and killing his enemies, and I think he would cut out the flirtatious aspect of his personality in favor of a crueler and more sadistic sense of humor. He would also probably be batshit insane, like, somewhere on the Joker’s level but not obnoxious; in fact, quieter and calmer and deadlier, like you could never really know what he was thinking. People would be afraid to look into his eyes. I think it would take a lot more to push him to that point than the others, though; but once he tipped over that cliff into darkness, there’d be no going back or remorse for him. He’d love to kill his enemies with a kiss and a smile.

In a fight between our Chase and Dark!Chase, I feel like it would be 50/50. Dark!Chase would be more reckless, unpredictable, and have even less of a fear of death than our Chase does; our Chase would have the edge in terms of strategy. So yeah, I think it would be 50/50!

Dark!Red: I can’t even imagine what Dark!Red would be like, lol. I just can’t imagine him being truly evil or ruthless without feeling guilty about it. I guess I could only imagine it if, like, he messed around with some spell and it robbed him of the ability to feel love or empathy?? But even then, I feel like he doesn’t have any inclination to go around conquering the world or hurting people. He mostly just wants to chill and read his books. I feel like he’d be the only one out of the group (besides probably Trouble if he’s not already dead) to be like uhhh guys what’s going on here, this isn’t like us?? He’d probably defect and lead a small underground rebel force with Pan and Neon. OMG and he’d be the one to figure out worldwalking and travel to our Blest to get our Shepherds to fight his because they’d be the only ones to stand a chance at taking down the evil versions of themselves!!! OMG!!! IT ALL FITS WTF.

Dark!Ayla: I could see Ayla Hulking out and becoming full of rage, but it’s difficult for me to imagine her doing something like supporting the death of innocents or using dirty-handed maneuvers to conquer the land. She’s also among the most independent of the Shepherds, so I feel like she’d be the most vocal of their opposition... it’s realllly hard for me to imagine her casually killing anybody except for scumbags who hurt other people, like murderers and kidnappers. In a war between different political factions or a bid to conquer the world, I just don’t think she has it in her--no matter how angry and aggrieved she was at whatever turned the rest of the others bad.

I think she would either be on the good side, such as supporting Red’s rebels, or vocal enough among the bad guys to have been killed as a dissenter; she might not be around by the time our Shepherds made it to the dark dimension. But if she was, I’m pretty sure our Ayla would win against her 80% of the time. Our Ayla still has the courage of her convictions and the scrappy desire to survive no matter what; dark!Ayla probably wouldn’t.

Dark!Halek: Also hard for me to imagine Halek turning truly evil; I feel like, if something bad were to happen to turn the rest of the Order bad, Halek would give himself more to grief instead of rage and revenge. He most likely would remove himself from the situation rather than try to take over the world; they would probably have to go hunting for him in the wilderness, kind of like when Luke was a hermit on that blue milk island in Star Wars (spoilers I guess?). I guess dark!Halek would be sort of tired and indifferent Halek, not able to go up against his old allies; our Shepherds might regard him as a coward, but he wouldn’t be evil like the others.

Our Halek would definitely beat that Halek in a fight, but they’d probably have no reason to fight in the first place!

Dark!Briony: did any of you ever watch the Flashpoint Paradox (another DC movie about the Justice League--well, the Flash--finding out about a really evil parallel universe)? There’s a scene in it where Dark!Wonder Woman--Queen of the Amazonians and waging a war against Aquaman and the Atlanteans--like, beheads Aquaman’s wife Queen Mera and holds her head up to Aquaman like “fuck you”. I won’t link the gif because all of the violence in that movie is pretty gruesome, but that’s how I feel Dark!Briony would initially be. Super strong, running through the enemy army like a knife through paper, annihilating whole forces and landscapes with just her fists, and not giving a shit just how many people she’s killing. I feel like there’s already a tenuous grasp on her emotions in our Briony; beneath the happy-go-lucky, sweet exterior, she feels so much and loves so much that there’s also the ability for her to snap. It wouldn’t take that much (a few more Nathes) to unhinge her and decide to hurt the world as much as it has hurt her. I think she would sort of black out into an all-consuming, heartbroken suicide run where she just decided to do everything in her power to create as much destruction as possible, to somehow soothe the destruction in her heart.

When that wouldn’t work, I think she would come back to her senses a little and start to slowly realize how fucked up and evil the things she’s doing (and the people around her) have become. It would be slower than someone like Ayla or Red, but gradually I think she would start to nurse a secret doubt in her heart, and if someone like Red was still around, he’d be able to convince her to start working for the good guys in secret, as their mole within the dark!Shepherds. However, I feel like cleverer minds like Blade, Lavinet, Chase and Riel would find her out, and she’d probably be executed for her treason.

In a fight against Dark!Briony and our Briony, I feel like it would depend on what stage of her development she’s at. If it’s still full rage mode, Dark!Briony probably wins like 80-90% of the time!

Dark!Lavinet: I could see Lavinet turning evil, but it’s sort of hard to imagine because she takes her duty to serve the people so seriously--it’s difficult to imagine what would need to happen to make her forget that, or to make her think she knows what’s best for them, even if that means doing bad things. It would already be so easy for her to do that in our world that she’s very conscious of it, so it would take a lot for her to fall into darkness. However, it’s still possible, and I could totally see her agreeing to be installed as a figurehead Autarch in order to maintain order and peace, slowly becoming more callous and ruthless over time. She would totally execute the old guard loyal to the previous Autarch and make their heads roll publicly to instill fear and respect for her reign. She does have that streak of ruthlessness in her; in our world, it’s reserved only for her enemies, but in that world, she’d slowly start to view everyone as her enemy--even past friends!

In a fight between Dark!Lavinet and our Lavinet, I would guess that our Lavinet would win 90% of the time. In that AU, I feel like Dark!Lavinet would let others do the fighting for her, and she would get used to ruling and being behind the front lines; in a way, she’d lose her fighting edge, something our Lavinet still has in spades. So in a direct combat situation, I think our Lavinet would win! In a game of wits and politics, I’m not sure--I would give that one 60-40 in favor of Dark!Lavinet!

#Shepherds of Haven #evil #evil AU #dark AU #AU #villain #villains #tw: suicide #cw: violence #cw: war #cw: murder #deadliest warrior #dark!shepherds #long #long post #all characters #anon #dark!AU

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Young Justice: Independence Day, Fireworks, and Stopover

Warning, Spoilers Ahead…

My goal is to re-watch the Young Justice series and re-read the comics before the January 4th launch of Young Justice: Outsiders. Let’s begin.

Episode 1: “Independence Day”

July 4th: We begin, appropriately enough, on the United States’ Independence Day. The title will have multiple meanings by the end of the first two episodes: the kids’ semi-independence from their mentors and Superboy’s freedom from the Cadmus Project.

Do cold villains hate the Fourth of July?

Dick is the only Robin who would have laughter as a trademark.

“Juniors doing this for attention?” – One of my favorite parts of this series is the depth of knowledge for the characters of the DC Universe – even the obscure ones. The current Icicle is a “junior” – his father was the original Icicle of the Golden Age era. As a huge fan of the B through D list characters, I have a huge appreciation for anyone who remembers the small details.

Kaldur was an interesting choice as he was a new but fairly obscure character when Young Justice debuted. Garth would have been the more logical choice as he was a founding member of the Titans along with Dick, Roy, and Wally.

I admit I wondered why the series was called Young Justice because all I was seeing were the founding members of the Titans at this point (minus Garth and Donna).

“You’ll chat it up with the cops, the bystanders, with Cold even.” – One sentence reveals so much of Barry’s personality.

“I knew we’d be the last ones here.” – Again, a Barry trait.

“Speedy is Green Arrow’s sidekick.” “Well, that makes no sense.” – Accurate.

“Why isn’t anyone just whelmed?” – Dick’s mangling of the English language begins.

“02” – The assigned numbers correspond with the members joining the team. The way to my heart is the small details.

Roy has a huge hissy even by his impatient, hot-headed nature. We discover the reason later in the series.

“We could make an exception.” – Really, the Justice League wouldn’t allow their proteges on the Watchtower? Why?

Zatara and Wotan! Yay, obscure characters for the win!

“Glad you didn’t bring you know who?” Foreshadowing!

The boys invade Cadmus in all its glory: Guardian, G-Nomes, Genomorphs, Dubbilex, and, of course, Superboy.

“Dr. Desmond” is a hint for his upcoming transformation. The “Blockbuster” label confirms it.

Wally is a science nerd. Makes sense with Barry as a mentor.

“File KR” – another hint.

“Sub-level 52”. – DC does love its 52.

Superboy! Looking more like the Teen Titans-era version than the early, scrawny, fresh out of the pod version.

Hack! – Tim is typically the Robin most associated with computers. To be fair, the Internet was pretty much non-existent when Dick and Jason were Robin.

Superboy, unsurprisingly, curb-stomps the team.

Episode 2: “Fireworks”

First appearance of the Light aka the Cadmus Board of Directors.

“Clone them.” – We later discover that one sidekick has already been cloned.

Dubbilex, the sneaky traitor, awakens the boys.

“Project: Sidekick” – Desmond is so imaginative when it comes to naming projects.

“He can talk.”

“Yes, he can.”

“Not like I said it.

Wally, listen to Dick and Kaldur and keep your mouth shut.

Kaldur is clearly the wisest of the original group.

“Batcave’s crowded enough.” – Well, it’s been said three is a crowd.

“What would Superman do?” – Everyone should apply this standard to their decisions.

“Don’t you give me orders either.” – I can see why it would be a sensitive issue – his whole life (all 16 weeks) has been controlled by others.

“You can leap tall buildings in a single bound. Still cool.” – Sweet Wally being supportive.

“Don’t apologize. This is perfect.” – That’s how you know Dick was raised by the Batman.

“I finally have room to move.” – Yeah, speed is more useful when you have to space to run.

“Grab something from Project Blockbuster.” – If you were familiar with the villain, you knew what was about to happen.

“The Genomorph hero.” – Unfortunately, this bit wasn’t followed up on.

“Everyone back.” – Protective Guardian for the win. Sadly, he’s outmatched by Blockbuster.

“Got your nose.” – Gross!

“You incredible bulk.” – Shout out to the competition.

Oh, look at protective Superboy and Aqualad covering their more delicate teammates.

The League arrives with Superman taking point.

Not loving Hawkgirl/woman’s costume.

Poor Kal breaks Superboy’s heart. Bad Kal! I understand Clark’s upset and confusion but don’t take it out on the newborn child.

“All 52 levels.” – Again, DC loves the 52.

“Why let them tell us what to do. It’s simple. Get on board or get out of the way.” – Superboy declares the true mission statement of Young Justice.

Red Tornado as team supervisor is a nod to the comic book version of Young Justice.

I did like the addition of Black Canary as team trainer. It’s a nice nod to Dinah’s combat skills which Gail Simone spent most of the 2000s building up.

“This is the Martian Manhunter’s niece.” – Another surprise choice as Miss Martian wasn’t very well known in the comics. Never will a character start out so cute and then devolve into creepiness.

M’gann’s obsession with Superboy begins immediately. We’ll discover why later in the season.

Young Justice #1: Stopover

The issue begins immediately after Superboy declares “Get on board or get out of the way.”

“Give me three days” Batman responds.

The group then realizes Superboy has nowhere to go in the meantime.

Kid Flash brings Superboy to Central City. Wally explains the situation to his parents. There is a cute moment when Mrs. West corrects Wally’s grammar: “Robin, Aqualad, and I…”

Superboy interjects with a “You weren’t there.”

Cadmus clearly didn’t instruct Superboy in conversation nuances.

Mrs. West informs Wally that he “leads a very strange life. But we’re use to it. Largely.”

Wally’s parents are way more understanding and supportive than they are in the main DC Universe.

Wally’s parents ask Superboy’s name. Wally responds “I call him Supey. I think he likes it.” Conner doesn’t look like he likes it.

We stop in on Kaldur and Arthur’s return journey to Atlantis.

Kaldur: “We meant no disrespect.”

Arthur: “I would not be much of a king if I did not allow my subjects freedom of expression. Especially when their words carry such wisdom.”

Somewhere, Garth is wondering why he never had this type of relationship with Arthur.

Conner wonders “Think Superman knows I’m here?”

Wally awkwardly reassures Conner that Superman knows he’s in Central City.

Wally awakens the next day to find Conner sleeping upright in his closet. Conner informs Wally that he is not “used to sleeping in a bed. Your closet reminded me of my Cadmus pod. Except for the funny smells.”

Poor Conner. A bed shouldn’t be a foreign concept.

The boys spend the day vegging in front of the tv. Conner is very bored. Each panel has Wally eating something different: a bag of chips, pizza, and a bucket of fried chicken.

Nice nod to Wally’s metabolism.

Late in the day a card arrives with a credit cart addressed to Wally “for expenses.”

Superboy wonders if it’s from Superman.

Wally vaguely confirms it’s from Superman with a “who else could it be from” even though he’s clearly aware it was sent by Batman.

Wally is so sweet – he keeps trying to reassure that, of course, Superman would care about Conner’s location and well-being.

Batman is also a very sweet Bat-Dad this issue. Bruce would deny it but he was consistently sweet and supportive to Conner in the first season. None of the other Leaguers thought Conner would need money to buy basic essentials like clothes. Or that the middle-class Wests would need financial support to care for Superboy. Wally’s appetite alone has to put a serious dent in their income.

If Wally hadn’t offered, I’m positive Bruce would have taken Conner back to the Batcave. If for no other reason than Alfred wouldn’t have been thrilled with the idea of an underage child being left alone. Batman would have also thought of the risks of leaving Conner on his own – Cadmus operatives could have tried to regain custody of a lone Superboy.

The boys head to the mall to shop for clothes. A nice easter egg is the name of the store the boys enter: “Forever Sixteen”. Conner was genetically locked in that age for some time in the comics.

Conner buys multiple copies of the same black shirt. Not someone who’s big on fashion.

We bop over to Gotham where Dick is impatiently wondering what Bruce is doing in the Batcave – it’s been almost two and a half days!

Alfred patiently reminds Dick that when one says three days, one means three days.

Poor Alfred has the patience of a saint. Imagine what the poor man endures on a daily basis: Bruce in all his glory; hyper, energetic Dick, Jason’s explosiveness, Damian’s demanding arrogance, and Stephanie’s boisterousness. Tim, Cassie, and Duke are the quieter children. They don’t cause Alfred as much fuss.

Back to the mall where Wally and Conner encounter Tommy and Tuppence, the Terror Twins – the same twins that Conner and M’gann impersonate at Belle Reve.

Flash and Superman arrive on the scene of the fight. Conner mutters a single “Superman” before Clark flees from the scene. To be fair, he was pursuing the Terror Twins but he couldn’t even offer a “hi” before he left?

Flash tells the boys to go home. Barry will pick the boys up in the morning because “Batman has made his decision”.

Honestly, Batman made his decision as soon as he told the kids “three days”. Bruce simply needed the three days to implement his plan.

Conner asks Wally if “Superman will be there tomorrow”. Wall responds “Uh, sure, you know…if there’s no emergency somewhere.”

Conner’s downcast face shows he doesn’t believe Wally’s statement.

Conner asks Wally “Why’d you invite me to stay with you?”

“Well, un, Aqualad lives underwater. And the Batcaves’s kind of a big secret. So I figured it’d be cool for us to hang.”

Conner smiles after Wally’s statement.

Wally is so sweet and supportive in this issue. It also shows that Wally is very trusting. He is inviting Superboy into his home with his civilian parents – and he knows how easily Conner curbstomped the entire team. But Wally knows Conner is one of the good guys and doesn’t even hesitate to bring him to Central City.

The issue ends with the final moments of the second episode.

#Young Justice #Superboy #Kid Flash #Robin #Aqualad

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Borrowing Problems from the Future

The Flash: Season 3, Episode 10 Recap

Barry has been having nightmares about Iris being murdered and his screams keep waking up real-world, alive Iris up. But he’s not sharing about what’s getting to him. Even though this is one of the few times where maybe he should say something. Not just because her life is in danger, but because everyone’s lives are. Everyone is living like the threat is gone – the threat isn’t gone, and if it comes back at any time, no one is prepared. But that’s cool.

Barry goes to the latest danger – a fire. The fire department won’t make it in time (super ineffective) and a detective ran in there for some unknown reason. He was going to put out a fire in the whole building single-handedly. You’d think he would know better. Barry runs in and Wally is already there. But the problem is that opening the door would cause an explosion and kill the detective. What is the detective’s name? He’s Matt Parkman from Heroes and he was on here before, but damned if I can remember his name. In any event he’s in behind the door trapped and yelling that he’s trapped despite the fact that they can see him. Luckily there’s two Flashes now so they’re able to counter the explosion and save the dumb detective and it’s all good.

Wally is feeling really great about being a hero and is feeling so bold that he puts his costume on Barry’s mannequin on his way out. We’ve had a month to take care of this (the show even says so). There should be two of them at this point. But we don’t have time to think about it because H.R. comes in to tell everyone that it’s going to be time to open the S.T.A.R. Labs museum soon. He wants everyone to see the progress so far, so Caitlin, Cisco, and Barry go with him into the rest of the building.

It looks pretty nice and H.R. even went so far to hire an employee. I guess he also fixed that giant hole in the building that’s been there for three years. He also designed a holographic Cisco to be the tour guide, which Cisco is not feeling at all. And the hologram keeps messing up anyway. Also he programed it to say all these praises about Harrison Wells, who has a tarnished reputation in this world because of the particle accelerator exploding and killing Barry’s mom – both things that have made the news and both things H.R. has been informed about. So they maybe want to change that too.

While that was happening, Wally went to the police station and overheard a conversation that was probably discouraging. The ungrateful detective says they don’t need that other Flash because he didn’t do anything to help him until their Flash got there. Which is pretty unfair considering the dumbass was pinned in a fire and had no idea what was happening. He shouldn’t have even been inside. He literally had no reason for that. But okay.

Meanwhile, Caitlin has been having trouble with the cuffs that Cisco designed for her. It’s becoming difficult to keep charging it. She decides to go see Julian at the CCPD to ask him if he can help. But Julian tells her that he doesn’t cure metas, he puts them in prison and he tells she’s on her own. He’s super rude for no reason, although Julian is British, so that could just be a default.

Later on, Barry is surprising Iris by showing her that he unpacked and decorated their place. She wanted to do it gradually, like a normal couple, but Barry says between their jobs that they’re never at and him being the Flash, he just figured he would do it. She loves the loft but she still wants Barry to talk to her about what’s going on with him. Because it’s an obvious distraction. Barry’s saved by a robbery in progress.

The robber is stealing some jewels; you know, typical bad guy robbing. Barry comes in, takes the bag that had the jewels, all ready to be quippy, but he’s immediately caught off guard because he recognizes the guy from the news in the future. Which gives the guy the chance to use his nifty speedster gun. So he shoots Barry and Barry is knocked down and the guy gets away.

They check out his health at S.T.A.R. Labs. He’s fine, a little beat up though. Unfortunately, seeing this guy has put Barry on super edge. H.R. is being clever and names the robber “Plunder” and Barry flashes back to his time in the future where the news report says that “Plunder was caught by the Flash earlier this year.” Wally tries to be encouraging and says next time they’ll get him and Barry is like, “Bitch you thought,” and fully shuts Wally down. So Wally leaves, disappointed, while the rest of the people left in the room (the other Wests) are looking at Barry like, “What’s wrong with you?”

Caitlin got a text from Julian, so she goes back to the CCPD to talk to him. He apologizes for how he was the day before; he can’t help but think of his time as Alchemy and he’s guilty about surviving when his colleagues got murdered. Which, again, is actually why Barry should say something, at least to him. This guy is trying to move on with his life when at a moment’s notice, he could go back to being possessed. Caitlin asks him to come work with them at S.T.A.R. Labs and he says he’ll consider it.

Barry later goes to talk to H.R. about his novels. He wants to know if H.R. ever wrote about the future and what his thoughts are on being able to change the future. H.R. tells him about the fans of his novel being divided on whether the future is fixed or if it’s malleable. H.R. personally thinks it’s fixed and tells Barry that “a man often meets his fate on the road he’s taking to avoid it.” It’s actually a great conversation that is completely unnecessary because Barry does not need verification of the future potentially changing. He already knows that it can. When they do the little plot recap they showed Barry talking to Oliver about the byline in the future newspaper changing from Iris’ name to someone else. He even said, “Something has changed with our future.” All that drama with Cisco’s brother dying – result of the ripples in the timeline when Barry changed the past. Jay telling Barry immediately after he came back from the future that what he saw was on future of many. Why did he ask the one non-scientist in the building about something he already knows?

But then Plunder is back and Barry has to stop him. Plunder has another cool gun that shoots these bullets that follow Barry. Barry gets rid of those and has Plunder disarmed, but he hesitates on stopping him because he keeps thinking of the news report. He doesn’t want to stop him. But the gun has stuff in it that is still tuned to Barry and it’s about to fire again and Barry is too distracted to realize it. So he’s fortunate in Wally running in and grabbing the gun and Plunder. There’s a bystander who caught Wally on video and asks he if he wants to say something to the camera. Wally excitedly introduces himself as Kid Flash.

They get back to S.T.A.R. Labs and everyone is congratulating Wally on his success, but Barry is super pissed. And he flips out on Wally and says all he’s supposed to do is observe and if he can’t take directions then the whole thing is done. It’s extremely uncomfortable for everyone. H.R. walks in to break the tension by saying they need to get out there to the opening.

When everyone walks in, all dressed up, they see that the place is completely empty. The two people who do come are immediately turned off at the fact that there’s a ticket price. Cisco tells H.R. how stupid the idea was and how they all let him distract them into thinking he was actually useful. Wally points out that someone else is coming, and they all see Julian. Julian tells them that he thought about it and wants to accept the offer. Which Caitlin never actually shared with everyone else.

So they discuss this. Cisco isn’t too fond of the idea since Julian is Alchemy and Iris points out that he was the one who gave Wally the powers (which Wally isn’t upset about). She tells them that they all need someone and that she thinks Julian can help her; she’s scared about becoming Killer Frost. They tell her to tell Julian that they will think about it. Everyone walks away, but Barry asks Iris to hang back because he needs to show her something.

Barry takes her to the time vault and shows her the future newspaper. He tells her the byline used to say Iris West-Allen. She says maybe she quit her job. Barry says that’s what he hoped at first too, until he got blasted into the future and saw her get murdered. He tells her that’s why he wanted to let Plunder go because he thought changing one thing could show how the future can change. She tells him that he can’t go jeopardizing the city for one person. He quite seriously asks her why not and says that Joe would make the same decision to save her too. She starts crying and asks how long before it happens. He hugs her and swears on the lives of both his parents that it won’t happen; except both of your parents are dead Barry and at the hands of speedsters no less, so your promises are meaningless.

They go to tell the others. Everyone is clearly upset by this. Wally asks if they’ve told Joe and Iris says they’re not going to be telling Joe. Wally and H.R. agree that Joe needs to know, but Iris says no because he’ll obsess with it. They all get into a debate about whether or not they can change it at all. But they think carefully changing some events, not all, could yield the desired outcome.

So everyone in the know congregates the next day to watch Cisco vibe Barry into the future. The day: May 23, 2017. And yes, that is a Tuesday. There’s our season finale. So they’re there watching Christmas Barry go through the motions. They stop at the same news broadcast that Barry first stopped at and they read off the headlines scrolling at the bottom (H.R. writes it all down): “Music Meister Gets Six-Figure Book Deal” (we could actually just end the episode there); “Joe West Gets Honored at City Hall”; “Killer Frost Still at Large”; “S.T.A.R. Labs Museum Closes”; “City Recovers After Gorilla Attack”. There you go – the major plot lines for the rest of the season. Presumably in the super back-half of this season. From March onward since the Music Meister crossover episode is in March.

They hear Barry yelling, “Don’t!” and they go over to see Savitar holding Iris. But wait! On the rooftop is H.R. holding a gun aimed at Savitar. And he wasn’t there last time. So, in case we still weren’t convinced, yes, the future can change. Barry has to see Iris still die though, so that was rough. They come out of the vibe and they have their plotlines outlined for them. Wally gives them some news – Plunder escaped.

Barry tells Wally that he was wrong before – Wally is ready and he can fight. Time to suit up. They go after Plunder and Barry lets Wally take the lead and run in. But Wally gets bested by Plunder’s motorcycle. Wally tells Barry that maybe he should do it, but Barry reminds him of the news broadcast. He says it has to be Wally because that means that the future news broadcast is wrong. They both go running after Plunder and Wally does stop him and he gets to soak in the praise of people chanting “Kid Flash”.

The present news credits the capture to Kid Flash. While Wally was doing that, Barry stole Plunders gun and he gives it to Cisco. They’re feeling pretty good about being able to fix all this. So at some point something should go horribly, tragically wrong.

That evening, Barry and Iris are having a house warming. And, like the Christmas episode, I am on edge the whole time. But no one dies or gets kidnapped or brutally attacked, so we’re good. H.R. gives them a pet turtle, making my day because The Flash now has a pet turtle. Joe decides to bring them a framed picture of them on one of their first days of school (it’s weird). Julian shows up and gets the news that they will let him join the team; he and Cisco give Caitlin a solar powered version of the cuffs to keep her powers at bay. The necklace is in the shape of a snowflake, which is kind of a messed up thing to give Killer Frost. H.R. gives a sweet toast.

The episode ends with some woman jumping out of a portal with H.R.’s face projected from her watch. Looks like someone is after him. And end episode.

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Homestuck Kids

I like the idea that the Human kids aren’t baseline humans even before their god tiers as has been shown many times in the comic such as the most obvious Egbert-Crocker super-strength and Strilondes flash-step.

Prospit Kids

I see John, Jade, Jake and Jane having been build to be pursuit predators. I see them sweating differently than average people and having increased heat tolerance, getting more nutrients out of food and things that aren’t food that can still be eaten.

I also see them as having the most efficient energy systems and don’t have to eat or sleep as much as a baseline human.

Other abilities I see them having are below:

a. Stamina

John’s stamina is very high, he was able to continuously fight large amount of enemies in the span of a single day without getting exhausted, can take massive beatings and get back on his feet in minutes.

b. Super Strength

John and Jane as well as their Dads are extremely strong far beyond that of normal human beings.

c. Durability

John took a very long beating from two ogres without noticeably injury to show for it, was hit by a metal crowbar to the skull and was hit by a heavy wooden door and was capable to walk it off.

Jade fell several hundreds of stories and landed on Becquerel unharmed.

Jake was launched over the horizon and suffered only minor injuries. He also took a massive beating from The Felt before going down and defeated them in another timeline?

d. Super human speed

Jane has shown examples of superhuman speed such as when she ran from her place to the crater where she appeared in a really short amount of time, even while doing unnecessary manoeuvres like spinning in the air and jumping. Another example is when she flew from her planet to Jake’s planet in a really short amount of time. Also when she was mind-controlled by the Condesce, she blitzed Jake English in his god tier form.

Individual powers:

Jade (and other space players) also has beyond average spatial awareness which is part of what makes her such a great shot with the rifle because she has more of an awareness of where the object is than a baseline human would.

I see John as having more efficient lungs and oxygen transfer, resulting in reducing physical stress ad load on his body even during high physical activities as a result of his wind powers.

and also having enhanced reflexes (catching his glasses in mid-air after they were knocked off)

I like the head-canon that Jake and John have tall solid builds, Jade has a long lanky build of runner while Jane is build smaller with a stocky-curvy build.

Derse Kids

Meanwhile the Strilondes are ambush predators. Basically they can zip everywhere at short distance and have extremely fast reflexes. I found this theory the science behind Young Justice speedsters which I thought would explain the scientific explanation behind how their speed works:

Basically, their wicked speed involves the amped up movement of muscles, which uses ATP to activate myosin and actin filaments into shuffling across each other etc etc. The mitochondria in cells generate ATP using cellular respiration, which requires oxygen. Oxygen is delivered to the cells via hemoglobin on red blood cells (RBC). Thus, the more RBCs one possesses, the more ATP one will produce, and thus their muscles will become more efficient. So Jay, Barry, Wally, and Impulse must either have a superhuman amount of RBCs, or the hemoglobin on their RBCs can carry way more than the normal 4 molecules of oxygen. Cellular respiration also requires glucose, which is why our speedsters eat so much (explained in the most simplest terms, of course). Or their speed is simply a result of everything in their body–cells included–moving at a pumped-up inhuman speed, which would mean their cells are dying and dividing faster, and thus our speedsters would be aging faster, and will then die at a younger age.. which is not something we want, right? So I’m just going to go with the theory that the lightning + chemicals somehow gave the original Speedsters a tremendous bucket full of hemoglobin per RBC. This characteristic was obviously due to a permanent alteration in their DNA, as evident by their ability to pass on this phenotype to their children and grandchildren.

Other powers the Strilondes would need are

This article about the Flash and the physics of his speedster abilities could also be applied to the Strilondes and the secondary powers they would need for their flash step ability:

a. Enhanced healing, possibly via hyper-mitosis to compensate for instant acceleration and deceleration abilities

The Flash isn't just fast, he's instantly fast. He goes from standing still to blistering speed without any noticeable delay. Nothing in the real world accelerates that quickly. Even a cheetah has to take a few strides to get up to sprinting speed and a Lamborghini a few seconds of engine time to reach 60 mph. But Allen can accelerate at a rate that would break legs, smash organs against the inside of the rib cage, and generally wreck your body. Each stop would be like getting into a terrible car accident — although a supersonic plane crash might be more appropriate, in terms of speed and force…Hence, his (overly convenient, in my opinion) superhealing power. Without it, The Flash wouldn't do much at all — he would have died after just one super sprint. Just like Allen's body needs superhealing to make superspeed possible, his brain needs a major upgrade as well: Moving at superhuman speed requires superhuman reflexes. b. superhuman reflexes The human body already has fast reflexes. We can process information in mere milliseconds, and our instinctual reactions often happen before we even realize we're shielding our faces or ducking for cover. Kakalios mentions a sudden stop in stop-and-go traffic as an example: You're jolted into alertness, adrenaline surges, and you brace yourself for a collision, all within a single second. But Allen's reflexes would have to be unfathomably quick, considering the guy is constantly sprinting in and out of moving traffic as a blur. "The Flash obviously has a faster clock in his brain," Kakalios said. "He's moving at such speeds that if he had normal reaction times, he would be colliding into things." c. superhuman eyesight And these reflexes would mean nothing if his eyes weren't super-powered themselves, providing the visual input needed to make split-second decisions (though "split-second" may be an understatement with this kind of speed). Allen would need faster eyes to see all the obstacles coming at him at superspeed. And the way he looks to us at high-speed reveals why stock human eyes wouldn't cut it. "The Flash looks like a blur because the brain can’t process the optical signal that fast," Kakalios explained. d. superhuman anti-cling The kind of acceleration and deceleration the Flash experiences also cuts off circulation to the eyeballs. As test pilots in the space race undergoing G-force tests learned, this blinds you (at best, temporarily). We also need to look at the powerful electrical charge that Allen would build up while running. Friction between the ground and our feet is fundamental to walking and running, but it can also generate a static charge. And if enough builds up, it's discharged in a little static shock — a surprising jolt, but not dangerous or painful. The massive amounts of friction between the ground and the Flash's feet would generate a ton of electricity. So much, Kakalios suggests, that all that electricity running through his body would create a magnetic field, "pulling everything magnetic in his wake." At superspeed, the Flash would turn into a weaponized magnet, dragging cars, uprooting streetlights, and turning small metal objects into bullets rocketing behind him. The Flash couldn't keep himself from wrecking infrastructure and smashing bystanders with debris, let alone keep Central City safe from metahumans.

I also the idea Asukaskerian posed that the Strilonde kids can see into the ultraviolet range. I also theorize that Jade can as well due to her having enhanced senses of smell, hearing and sight as a result of merging with Becquerel. There is evidence of humans seeing into the ultraviolet range in real life as well as it seems to be a good theory. The fact that some people who see into ultraviolet have to wear sunglasses also leads credence to the theory. Source of info is from here

Most patients going in for radical eye surgery hope the surgeons won't have an accident that makes their vision any worse. Some wake up to find they can see colours far beyond the range humans are normally able to see. There is increasing evidence that patients who have cataracts, cancer or other eye problems treated by having their corneas surgically removed and replaced with artificial alternatives, often end up able to see colors in the ultraviolet range of the spectrum – colors of light visible to night-hunting raptors, some lizards and, oddly, ants, but not to humans. If this were a comic book or science fiction novel, this is where you'd find descriptions of strange creatures visible only in ghostly purple light, strange doors undetectable those not afflicted by aphakia, whole civilizations and a really coherent plot involving a threat to the human race that can be foiled only by humans able to see into The Purple.

Unfortunately, while the ability to see farther into the ultraviolet than other people is cool, it's not exactly a superpower. (It does do some really wacky things to the colors you're used to seeing, though.) The colors of light classified as ultraviolet are only one step above the normal human visual range, for one thing. Even un-aphakian humans can see some ultraviolet – which is used primarily to make raves and clubs look cool under black light (for the hipsters) or to identify bodily-fluid stains on sheets and furniture in hotel rooms (for the germophobes). While it's possible to see black-light lightbulbs and see the darkish cast they throw on objects that don't glow ultrawhite under them, most humans can't actually see the color of ultraviolet light.

Most people are able to see wavelengths of light ranging from 380 nanometers to 750 nanometers in frequency, a range that goes from dark red on the low-energy end of the spectrum, to violet on the high end. Our eyes are actually able to see farther into the ultraviolet, but most of those higher-energy, skin- and eye-damaging rays are filtered out by the cornea itself. Cut off the cornea and, unless the artificial replacement is designed to filter out the UV, you get to see more colors than other people. Bad luck if you're not a fan of purple, though. Alek Komarnitsky, an engineer who had his corneas replaced as a treatment for cataracts, describes UV as a blue-violet glow that makes a lot of things more interesting to play with – ultraviolet flashlights, colors of clothing and personal objects and monochromators that test the specific frequency of the light range he can see (He's an engineer; that's how engineers play. Most of you would do the same thing.) Only about 3 percent of aphakia patients get the extra UV vision, but who gets it and who doesn't has more to do with the sensitivity of their photoreceptors, not whether they're aliens like the character Kevin Spacey played in K-PAX (who believed his ability to see ultraviolet was evidence he was an alien). Those who do have to wear "blue blocker" sunglasses that block much more ultraviolet than most shades, to protect their eyes from the same high-energy rays that cause sunburns, make colors exposed to it fade toward plain white and break down the epoxies and resins that hold together the fibers in fiberglass, carbon-fiber and other manmade materials.

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