Yoko: So.
Wednesday, looking up from her book: What?
Yoko: Have you ever liked anyone other than Enid?
Wednesday:
Yoko: Come on, you're stuck with me all day, might as well answer.
Wednesday: Fine, I did have a brief crush on Bianca prior to liking Enid.
Yoko: HOLY SHIT.
Yoko: Wait, why are you telling me this?
Wednesday, leaning in: Because no one will believe you.
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I've seen things after SOTUS extreme actor harassment, I've been here through BMF "hate watching flashmob" and you know what, this year I will actually stop tolerating BL fans (at least on tumblr) who don't even have the decency to just ignore things they don't like and who think bullying someone is a good fandom sport, and start calling out. No matter if you believe clickbaits or you're a proud member of celebrity witchhunt or just don't believe people and situations can change, whatever, I really don't want to see KristSingto hate if - when - they will come back with another BL series.
Peraya fans have been waiting and hoping for KristSingto reunion for years, they wanted it themselves for so long as well, and we've unfortunately encountered way too many people who don't use their braincells and who encourage others to follow their footsteps when making derogatory comments about (mainly) Krist or Singto who they don't even know about, or their shows. For years. Some even go to talk shit and laugh right at his face. What the hell.
Maybe don't ruin someone else's parade and don't turn a nice community lake into a swamp. If you consider yourself a good person who can have an opinion "I just don't vibe with this person/show", watch it unbiased, be open minded and if you don't have a full picture, ask fans of the actual story or do research and read proper compilations about him instead of blindly stacking your opinions on repeated echoed insults from yt and tiktok. And if you aren't willing to be open minded and rational, well, let the fans celebrate and stick quietly to your swamp.
It's really no fun to gather around to discuss something and slip on poop piles thrown around for no reason. What happened to civil discussions?
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twitter has gotten a hold of quotes from Maggie's trc webinar and I do think it's funny how every time it's brought up just how hated Adam was pre BLLB (pre TRK if we're being real) everyone just. straight up refuses to believe it. as if some of us weren't 14 defending Adam from the misogynist, bad friend, is-going-to-kill-gansey allegations with our lives.
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I have, a genuine question for you. Do you acknowledge the racism in the original AYTD or at least know about it? Like how MsKingBean uses slurs and racist stereotypes?
hey, so, i'm a bit apprehensive about answering this because...it doesn't feel like a very geniune question to me, if i'm being honest. "do you acknowledge x thing" is a question that is inherently set up so that i'm meant to answer "yes, i acknowledge that x thing is true," because the alternative is saying "no, i don't acknowledge that x thing is true," which is already framing this interaction as if to disagree with you would be a kind of failure on my part to do some due diligence of engaging critically with a text. and the fact that you say mskingbean89 used slurs in atyd shows me that you haven't even engaged with the text, because that simply...isn't true.
if what you're referring to when you say "slurs" is the anti-romani stereotypes--this is coming from an extra chapter in the bootleg tapes focusing on greyback, where there is a slur used to describe his living situation + he + his family were portrayed as nomadic irish people in a way that was insensitive. people who read that chapter and then went back to the canon story with that characterization in mind rightfully pointed out that it was fucked-up. mskingbean89 addressed those criticisms by adding this note to the beginning of that bootleg chapter:
personally, i think this was a good way to take accountability + acknowledge the mistakes she made with that portrayal. she was a human being who made an ignorant mistake, which then just happened to get absolutely blasted to millions of people--she did not have sensitivity readers or editors looking over her fanfiction, because she did not write it expecting it to reach the level of popularity that it has. to be honest, i am not really sure how she could have better acknowledged her mistake, aside from just....not having made it in the first place. she explains her intentions without acting as though that intent cancels out harm, owns up to the fact that the stereotyping was harmful regardless of intention, and provides resources to learn while also committing to be more mindful + educate herself moving forward. honestly, that's exactly the response i would hope to see from someone who makes a mistake like this one.
i agree with you that people reading atyd should acknowledge + understand the racism regarding romani stereotypes stemming from that bootleg chapter, which is why i think it's great that there is a note literally built into the beginning of that chapter acknowledging it! but i feel as though there's been this like...game of telephone happening online when it comes to atyd, where there are now people who have never even read the story talking about things that quite literally do not appear in the base text itself. i've also seen people acting as though mkb herself did not address these issues when they were raised to her, which is just...patently false.
and so what i'm wondering here is what you're looking for from me when you ask a question like "do you acknowledge the racism in atyd." anyone who actually reads the texts has to acknowledge the racism in that bootleg chapter, because mkb puts that acknowledgment front and center at the beginning. and also like...in the part of the fandom i'm in, in the conversations i've listened to or taken part of regarding atyd, people have acknowledged the issues with that bootleg chapter and the ways it reflects back on the main story. so what do you mean by "acknowledge" when so many people, including mkb herself, have already... acknowledged it? what action are you calling for, and who are you calling for it from?
because like. if what u actually want to say here is that atyd is Irredeemably Problematic and we should all like....shun it? universally agree that it's Bad? then it's just like. it is up to each individual reading the story to decide whether that specific portrayal of greyback in the bootleg chapters is something that ruins the story completely for them or whether they still think the story as a whole holds worth. personally, i feel like i can acknowledge that there are issues with mkb's portrayal of greyback and i need to be mindful of that when reading the story so as not to internalize harmful stereotypes while still finding atyd to be a masterpiece that really beautifully deals with a lot of nuanced issues regarding class and disability and systems of power. this is just part of thinking critically when you read; many famous and beloved works of fiction contain the biases of their authors or have mistakes or issues in the way they portray things that are a product of ignorance. and i know everyone reading marauders fanfiction should understand this, because if u genuinely think that a character being negatively stereotyped means u should throw the entire work in the trash, then none of u would be touching harry potter fanfiction with a five foot pole in the first place.
so, anon - if you have actually read atyd, and there are issues with racism that you have found that i am unaware of, and not just telephone-game twitter posts of people taking shit out of context that you're accepting as truth without bothering to engage with the work yourself--if you want to have a real conversation about it, i would invite you to come to me as an actual person and not an anonymous ghost in my inbox. my dms are open, but when it comes to talking about serious issues, i tend to find it more genuine if the person coming to me actually cares enough and believes in what they're saying enough to say it as themself. and if you haven't read atyd and are just parroting things you've heard other people say online then i would invite you to actually sit down and read the work and form your own opinions on it before getting back to me. i know that might sound harsh, but honestly i'm just completely fed-up at this point with all the bad-faith takes and misinformation that i've seen people spreading about atyd just because they think it's cool to dislike a popular thing.
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thinking about troy and abed in epidemiology again. how troy spent the entire episode running away from the idea of being a "nerd" and essentially abed as well - only for them to run away from the zombies together and abed basically "sacrificing" himself just for troy to not get zombified. and troy initiating the "i love you" / "i know" scene (from star wars) as he's about to get away... like idc if im reaching but that is not only a proper confession of love in my opinion but also the moment where troy realises that if abed can literally sacrifice for him then he can at the very least embrace his nerdiness and not try to be so tough all the time, for himself and for abed!!! plus right after that scene u get the whole mamma mia sequence where troy decides to just be a nerd and ditch the sexy dracula costume to get the college back to normal.... but in the end it's abed who ends up zombifying him after troy punches and breaks his way away from everyone and him saying "abed, we're friends" in the saddest most betrayed voice ever aaaaaaaa fatal mistake sonething something romantic tragedy etc etc u get it
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i agree with you that this holier-than-thou trend of shitting on common motifs is eyerolling, but i do want to point out that the original poster meant no harm (you can see if you check the replies). obviously, that doesn't erase the hundreds of people who Do mean to disrespect artists.
appreciate you! stay golden!
Oh I wasn't vaguing about that post, just in general. I get tired of seeing "look at these tropes" and then point to a past artistic movement with multiple known artists and hundreds or thousands or whatever smaller artist who may have just not been know or wanted to be known. more along those lines :0
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I love your Gotham Riddler fics! And I love that you write for different versions of the rogues, and that you don’t only write for the most popular characters/versions.
ah you are so sweet ;-; every version is popular in their own little circles though!! i think with the riddler it kind of helped that dano fans just love his little fucked up spherical head but shout out to my buds who main young justice riddler like he's the only riddler to ever exist and i am here to provide regardless 💚🥰
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no but wait, they did just straight-up forget that sylvie's a loki, didn't they? there's that "we have to get the whole gangs's temporal aura!" episode, where not getting sylvie means oh no they can't do it, might as well give up now. but it was a plot point in the previous episode (and we already knew from s1) that variants of the same person have the same aura. so... why do they need sylvie when loki's already there? i'm not generally that bothered by such plot holes/mistakes but her being a loki was kind of a big deal so how did whoever was writing that episode manage to just forget that?
that part of her identity is barely mentioned otherwise in s2, so was a choice made to minimise it to the point that the writers themselves just fucking forgot about it?
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(pictures & text of "the bus" casting announcement & first readthrough, via writer james lantz, via kickstarter, via the wayback machine)
Update #23: Introducing Our Cast
Posted on September 9 [2011]
Hello Awesome Backers of The Bus!
It's been almost two weeks, a hurricane, and an address to Congress since we last talked -- how have you been? For all of you brave Vermonters who might still be dealing with the lingering effects of Irene, here's wishing you all the best -- you're in our thoughts!
We've been busy here at Bus central preparing your show for this fall. Our first and most exciting news is that we're cast! John Simpkins, our director, has been rehearsing our actors for about a week now. I've been lucky to linger on the edges and watch them work; I don't have to wait another three weeks to tell you this: we're gonna have an awesome show! We've got four actors from New York City, and two from Vermont. You'll get to know them in detail in later posts, but until then, let's give a big welcome to the cast of The Bus!
Travis Mitchell (in the role of Harry Deforge)
Bryan Fitzgerald (in the role of Jordan McRae)
Julia Lawler (in the role of the little girl)
Kerry McGann (in the role of Sarah Deforge)
Bob Nuner (in the role of Mr. Sloat)
Will Roland (in the role of Ian Deforge)
What else have we been up to?
Had a press and publicity meeting with the good folks at 59E59 Theaters; met our publicist and discussed possible hooks to publicize our show
Had our first production meeting with all of our creatives (who you'll meet in a later post)
Did a photo shoot for the new central image of the show with our two 'teen' actors, Will and Bryan
Began redesigning our website
Started rehearsing at NOLA Studios in New York City
Below are some photos of one of our first rehearsals, a table read. (photo #1, l. to r., Will Roland, Julia Lawler, Kerry McGann, Ben Ash, Bob Nuner (with back to camera), stage manager Josh Wright, director John Simpkins, and Bryan Fitzgerald)
Until next time, take care!
Jim
(bonus: the comment from sam malloy kicking off with "Those boys are as cute as can be.")
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