the Tori Amos cover of 97 Bonnie and Clyde where she basically just recites eminem's lyrics verbatim but under the framing that she's Kim dead in the trunk trying to comfort their daughter haunts me so bad like she did something serious there
I'm that anon who sent you that long ramble about eminem and Taylor Swift a long time ago and when I saw everyone being like “omg she wrote a song about Kim” I deadass thought for a split second it was gonna be a song about Kim mathers lmao. Like an ironic thing about how em also used his ex as a muse for some of his best and most emotionally honest songwriting and how he was widely criticized for having and sharing those feelings (and yeah to be clear kim and 97 Bonnie and Clyde are a masterpiece but I'm not gonna pretend they don't turn my stomach – not to say that anything by Taylor turns my stomach but just that not all good music expresses noble emotions and me liking either artist doesn't mean I'm immune to that.) anyway this is just to say there was a real missed opportunity to collab with em here because he's already proven he's extremely good at writing diss tracks about women named kim and I feel like that's a coincidence taylor would appreciate lmao.
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Eminem, since the start of his music career, has been a transgressive figure in the hip hop scene and the music industry. Critics were shocked and appalled by his lyrics while others praised him for his skill in writing and delivering rap verses. Overall, though, he has become increasingly successful and an undeniably important moment in American culture. His contributions to hip hop have been impressive and he has accrued multiple MTV and Grammy awards for singles, "Lose Yourself", "Without Me", and "My Name Is". He rose to fame in the late 90s to early 2000s and his 2000 hit "Stan" explores his experience in the limelight. Though "Stan" is not based on a true story, it is based on Eminem aka Marshall Mathers disturbing fan mail that he received during the peak of his career. He released "Stan" as a message to fans to not take his lyrics to heart, or act out anything he has said in his lyrics. The word "stan" has since been added to the Oxford dictionary and is defined as an overly obsessive or stalker-like fan. It has also been said to be a portmanteau of the words "fan" and "stalker".
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Eminem was sent the beat for this song by producer the 45 King which features Dido's 1998 song "Thank You" and the rest was history. He heard lyrics "put your picture on my wall" and instantly thought of a crazed fan. This was the first song, according to Eminem, that he did not create lyrics for on the spot. He mapped out the story for the song before recording it and he had intended for the song to prove wrong any critics for felt as though his music was made solely for shock value. "Stan" is one of Eminem's most critically acclaimed songs and tells an important message to fans about being sure to not confused reality with fantasy. In this song, Eminem's obsessed fan is named Stanley. He bleaches his hair to look more like Eminem, has Slim Shady posters hung up on his wall, and dresses similarly to the rap icon. He writes letters to Slim Shady, referring to him casually as "Slim", in hopes that he will write back.
However, as time passes and Eminem does not respond to Stan, he becomes increasingly more angry. Stan states "I think it's pretty f**cked up that you don't answer fans" and "I ain't that mad though, I just don't like bein' lied to". His messages become increasingly worrisome as he starts to reveal his compromised mental state, discussing his troubled familial past, self harm, and depression. Amid all of this personal confession, Stan expresses his admiration for Slim, and ending his letter with, ".P.S. We should be together too." This reveals the obsessive, almost romantic nature of his fandom of Eminem. He has now also replaced the priority of girlfriend with a priority towards his fanaticism towards Eminem, symbolized through his covering of her photo with his.
As the song progresses, Stan drinks too much and acts upon his reckless impulses and anger, ending his life along with his girlfriend's and their unborn child. Stan is now recording his voice on a cassette tape with for obvious reasons, Eminem will never be able to hear. He stars the tape with anger towards Slim, starting "Dear-Mr.-I'm-Too-Good-to-Call-or-Write-My-Fans" and continues on with the letter calling out Eminem for not answering in 6 months, not realizing the mass amount of fan mail he receives. He references "My Name Is" and asks Slim if he dares him to drive after drinking a fifth of vodka, except the lyrics have now become reality rather than fiction. He tries to guilt trip Em, saying "I loved you Slim, we coulda been together" and "You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it". This line of the sonf reveals Stan's drunken state as well as his intense love for Eminem, so much so that he would even marry him. He is speeding on the freeway, with his girlfriend tied up in the trunk, again referencing another Eminem song "97 Bonnie and Clyde". He then drives into the side of the bridge and the car falls into the river and we can hear muffled screams from his girlfriend.
“Stan” is meant to be a cautionary tale to fans to not take their admiration for celebrities too far and not to put too much stake into them for their own well-being. For inevitably they will be let down by the celebrities who have no real association with them. "Stan" gave a name to fandoms everywhere and coined a term that is used to this day to describe fans who idolize and are ultimately dedicated to a specific artist or celebrity. The song exemplified how fandom can get out of hand and be expressed in ugly, immoral ways. Judging from today's fandoms, obsessive tendencies have not wained but I am yet to hear a fan story from recent news come close to the intensity and drama of "Stan" which is good news for the world at large. Ultimately, the most harm done to celebrities seems to be through social media feuding or overly defensive behaviors from fans of their favorite celebrity. However, we have increasing numbers of celebrities being doxxed and harassed due to the ease social media creates for people to mess with the lives of celebrities. I can't say that the song has necessarily helped to better conditions for celebrity's safety or mental stability, but it has certainly brought awareness to an important issue concerning treatment of celebrities and reminds us that they are human as well, not just an image or brand.
over-saturation of the ironic happy song in horror movies means that listening to upbeat music doesn’t help you feel less creeped out anymore. now when i get a glass of water in the middle of the night i listen to tori amos’s 97 bonnie and clyde
Dearest SLG-you’re 22 today-that’s fucking bonkers. While Rattlesnakes is my favorite, every song from this era is so unique, and yet they all hang together really well. I often think of this record as ADP’s best friend or older sister. It also calls to mind Choirgirl, because of the group aspect. Tori has a HUGE posse! (All the songs are a posse, really, but SLG and ADP are the ones that are actual characters). As with all of Tori’s covers, I prefer most of Tori’s versions, and it’s mostly true with SLG too. The songs that I love equal for her version and the originals are Strange Little Girl, Rattlesnakes, and Enjoy The Silence. All others, I prefer Tori’s. The urban sunrise of New Age, the strident and adventurous Strange Little Girl, the tender yet slightly melancholy Enjoy The Silence, the kill or be killed rampage of Heart Of Gold (it always makes me think of The Godfather/the mafia), the road trip ode of Rattlesnakes, the many voices and cultural critique of Happiness Is A Warm Gun who was more of the the moment than any of us could have imagined, the ominous dark feminine of Raining Blood, and Real Men’s hard look at every man all came together to make an amazing collection. When you add Tori’s horror film last testament that is ‘97 Bonnie and Clyde, the heartbroken Time, who was the perfect choice for Tori’s performance as David Letterman’s first post-9/11 musical guest, and the eerily spot on massacre (back when school shootings were “new”) of I Don’t Like Mondays, and you have a singular, badass, beautiful record, a statement that was very of the moment, and helps us remember how we felt during that unimaginably difficult time. Our heartbreak and connection in common humanity splintered into paranoia and mistrust of difference that has been festering ever since, and whose viral disguise has metastasized in pain sight since 2016. I will love these girls forever. Happy Birthday, Baby!
Me: Hm. Most people have, like, Monster Mash on their Halloween playlist, but I have a lot of serial killers.
Z: To be fair, Mom, this is all stuff you listen to normally; I didn't know it was a Halloween playlist.
Seldnei's Halloween Playlist (meant to be played on shuffle)
Where Did You Sleep Last Night - Nirvana (unplugged)
'96 Neve Campbell - clipping. [feat. Cam & China]
'97 Bonnie & Clyde - Tori Amos
About Her - Malcolm McLaren
Polly - Amanda Palmer & the Grand Theft Orchestra
Down By the River (Live) - Indigo Girls
Possum Kingdom - Toadies
Come Back Alive - Delta Rae
Bloodletting (The Vampire Song) - Concrete Blonde
Dragula - Rob Zombie
The Horror and the Wild - The Amazing Devil
Magic - Bruce Springsteen
Leslie Anne Levine - The Decemberists
Ghost of a Texas Ladies Man - Concrete Blonde
Psycho Killer - Talking Heads
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968) ★★★★★★★★★★
2. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969) ★★★★★★★★★★
3. Psycho (1960) ★★★★★★★★★½
4. Blow-Up (1966) ★★★★★★★★★½
5. A Fistful of Dollars (1964) ★★★★★★★★★½
6. My Fair Lady (1964) ★★★★★★★★★☆
7. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966) ★★★★★★★★★☆
8. The Virgin Spring (1960) ★★★★★★★★★☆
9. The Birds (1963) ★★★★★★★★★☆
10. El Dorado (1967) ★★★★★★★★★☆
11. Two Women (1960) ★★★★★★★★★☆
12. Le Doulos (1962) ★★★★★★★★★☆
13. Le Samouraï (1967) ★★★★★★★★★☆
14. The Great Escape (1963) ★★★★★★★★½☆
15. Cool Hand Luke (1967) ★★★★★★★★½☆
16. For a Few Dollars More (1965) ★★★★★★★★½☆
17. Onibaba (Demon Hag) (1964) ★★★★★★★★½☆
18. Peeping Tom (1960) ★★★★★★★★½☆
19. The Battle of Algiers (1966) ★★★★★★★★½☆
20. Federico Fellini's 8½ (1963) ★★★★★★★★½☆
21. Planet of the Apes (1968) ★★★★★★★★½☆
22. Redbeard (1965) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
23. The Executioner (1963) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
24. I Am Cuba (1964) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
25. The Sound of Music (1965) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
26. The Italian Job (1969) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
27. The Jungle Book (1967) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
28. To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
29. Dr. Strangelove (1964) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
30. Belle de Jour (1967) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
31. Alfie (1966) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
32. Breakfast at Tiffany's (1961) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
33. Mary Poppins (1964) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
34. The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie (1969) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
35. The Graduate (1967) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
36. A Man for All Seasons (1966) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
37. Lawrence of Arabia (1962) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
38. Bonnie and Clyde (1967) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
39. Rosemary's Baby (1968) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
40. The Magnificent Seven (1960) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
41. Wait Until Dark (1967) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
42. True Grit (1969) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
43. The Hustler (1961) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
44. The Ipcress File (1965) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
45. Andrei Rublev (1966) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
46. Hamlet (1969) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
47. Murder She Said (1961) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
48. What Ever Happened to Baby Jane? (1962) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
49. The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner (1962) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
50. Army of Shadows (1969) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
51. A Taste of Honey (1961) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
52. Goldfinger (1964) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
53. Kuroneko (The Black Cat) (1968) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
54. Mademoiselle (1966) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
55. Two Way Stretch (1960) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
56. Take the Money and Run (1969) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
57. In The Heat Of The Night (1967) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
58. 101 Dalmatians (1961) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
59. Electra (1962) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
60. Kwaidan (Ghost Stories) (1964) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
61. Mouchette (1967) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
62. My Night with Maud (1969) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
63. Cape Fear (1962) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
64. The Railrodder (1965) ★★★★★★★★☆☆
65. Harakiri (1962) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
66. Midnight Cowboy (1969) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
67. Once Upon a Time in the West (1968) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
68. The Apartment (1960) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
69. Hunger (1966) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
70. The War Wagon (1967) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
71. Lolita (1962) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
72. Last Year in Marienbad (1961) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
73. Woman In Chains (1968) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
74. Whistle Down the Wind (1961) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
75. The Trial (1962) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
76. Privilege (1967) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
77. The Servant (1963) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
78. Yojimbo (1961) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
79. From Russia with Love (1963) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
80. A Hard Day's Night (1964) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
81. Night of the Living Dead (1968) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
82. Kes (1969) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
83. The Bride Wore Black (1968) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
84. Divorce Italian Style (1961) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
85. Shame (1968) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
86. Zulu (1964) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
87. They Shoot Horses, Don't They? (1969) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
88. Zorba The Greek (1964) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
89. The Unfaithful Wife (1969) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
90. Dr. No (1962) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
91. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
92. Oliver! (1968) ★★★★★★★½☆☆
93. Knife in the Water (1962) ★★★★★★★☆☆☆
94. Spartacus (1960) ★★★★★★★☆☆☆
95. Repulsion (1965) ★★★★★★★☆☆☆
96. Birdman of Alcatraz (1962) ★★★★★★★☆☆☆
97. Carry On Up the Khyber (1968) ★★★★★★★☆☆☆
98. Quatermass and the Pit (1967) ★★★★★★★☆☆☆
99. Marnie (1964) ★★★★★★½☆☆☆
100. Lord of the Flies (1963) ★★★★★★½☆☆☆
Update on my journey thru Tori Amos’ discography: …yeah Strange Little Girls and The Beekeeper are not it. Neither were nearly as consistent or interesting as her other albums I’ve heard. There were some good songs here and there, but so much of today’s listening blended together.
From SLG, I liked “New Age”, “‘97 Bonnie and Clyde” (holy shit that track is darksided, wtf is wrong with Eminem), “Strange Little Girl”, and “Real Men”.
For TBK, I enjoyed more, but it’s still way too drawn out for its own good. I liked “Sweet the Sting”, “Jamaica Inn”, “Barons of Suburbia”, “Sleeps with Butterflies”, “General Joy”, “Mother Revolution”, “Witness”, “The Beekeeper”, and “Goodbye Pisces”. Everything else was just bleh to me.
Although, I am listening to American Doll Posse, and I’m actually enjoying it quite a bit so far. Let’s see where it goes!
tori's strange little girls cover of '97 bonnie and clyde is so disturbing but so good, reimagining the song from the perspective of the murdered mother's ghost. i was like wow this song is such a good exercise in storytelling only to learn he wrote it abt his actual ex wife and daughter??
if marilyn manson says your song is too misogynistic, you really fucked up