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Hello Friend,
Hope you enjoying the Stars game and that the hockey gods are being kind to them.
Just wanted to stop and say hello, this dreary ass weather (Grea Lakes State here) makes me freaking sleepy all the time and cranky af....lol
Anywho I did have another reason to stop by....I was re reading your Back Pocket verse again for the umpteenth time..lol and I came across a couple of songs that fit for J2 in this verse.. I absolutely love George Michael, he was so freaking talented and I am sad that he has passed...
Here's my thought...when Jensen went to NY with Jared for those 2 weeks, Jared took Jensen out dancing, it took some cajoling and maybe there was a blow job involved, whose to say....NK was right Jared did want to show Jensen off...
So Jared has the DJ at the club play these 2 songs from George, Flawless and Amazing...they are great dance songs...I know it's not the poppy trendy music of todsy....but these songs have meaning, and so I think these were 2 of the songs they danced to
Thank you for bl3ssing us with your wonderful stories, I love the Holiday J2 fic you posted..it's adorable
Tale care Lovely Friend, Happy New Year! May the coming New Year bring you many blessings and good vibes...
P.S....I know no one misses him more than your family, but I miss Henry...
Peace ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Hello, my dearest!!
I've been holding onto this ask for a bit because I just wanna hug it and squeeze it and hold it close. Thank you so much for sending this, it made my week. <3
I am SO torn about writing either Back Pocket 3 or Minutes Past Midnight 2 next year. I love talking about both those verses, so let's gooooooo.
Omg my sister and I were *just* talking about George Michael! She's a big fan, too!
NK was definitely right--Jared fully intends to show Jensen off at every possible opportunity. And YES they should go to a club to soak up the atmosphere and get a chance to be out. The songs you chose match the vibe I'm going for in my head! :D
Have you listened to anything by Darren Hayes? His music reminds me a lot of George Michael's music. Very similar vibes. Both extremely talented artists.
I have so many songs for BP3 lined up. There's a little bit of everything: Queen, Billy Joel, Nina Simone, Adele, Lady Gaga, k.d. lang, MIKA... and now some George Michael. :)
Thank you for the music recs, my friend. If you have more, please let me know. Even if they don't make the actual fic, I have playlists full of music that inspire me to write certain verses and help while I'm noodling.
I hope you have a wonderful, awesome, amazing New Year. May 2024 bring you lots of love and light. <3
We miss Henry so much over here, too. I'm so appreciative that you keep him in your memories.
Oh, dearest anon. How much I enjoy your company when you pop up in my inbox. <3
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spnfanficpond · 4 years
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March Angel Fish Awards
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Every month all of you fantastic writers work your asses off to post some truly incredible stories. Our Angel Fish Awards are the way for all of us, as a community of writers and readers, to lift each other up and give praise to those who have captured our attention and deserve a few kind words.
The monthly Angel Fish Awards are peer-nominated, meaning ANYONE IN THE POND CAN NOMINATE ANY POND MEMBER’S FIC. While the Pond was founded to support the Guppies, everyone in this community deserves to be showered with love and feedback, and we hope that by opening this up as a Pond wide system, we’ll be able to share the love as far as it can go.
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WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, HERE ARE MARCH’S ANGEL FISH AWARDS!
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Nominated by @wingedcatninja
Static (series) by @peridottea91
peridottea91 is going to single-handedly convert me to like series. I just re-read this gem and had to share it. In another life, she could have been a writer on the show, she’s so good at getting the characterization right for our boys. This OC, too, is an intiguing, layered personality that adds an extra dimension of mystery. And the whole story is perfectly woven in with canon. Two thumbs up. A must read.
Wish (oneshot) by @thoughtslikeaminefield
It’s just a drabble, but it made me feel so many things in so few words. I don’t even know what to say about it, other than it’s brilliant and if you love Dean Winchester, you have to read it.
Bad Medicine (oneshot) by @deanwandamons
This was lovely, and hot, and it made me giggle. 
Nominated by @risingphoenix761
Because You’re Worth It (oneshot) by @thoughtslikeaminefield
I love a good crack fic, and I love some good Samwena content, so this is right up my alley. And a great mix of funny and fluffy! 
Kings Don’t Kneel (oneshot) by @slytherkins
Few things in fic give me as much joy as Tara writing Crowley, and she hits all my favorite spots in under a thousand words. Struggling with emotion is hard enough for an unfeeling demon, but grief and loss–and the pain of knowing those emotions are unacknowledged–are enough to bring anyone to their knees. Beautiful and succinct, and all the angst!
Nominated by @peridottea91
Heaven (oneshot) by @evansrogerskitten
This fic is so beautifully written and just really captures Dean’s personality while still smacking you in the face with the most amazing “and then I saw her” moment!! Best still my heart!!! And the whole SamxEileen subplot!! The whole fic is just *chef’s kiss*
Nominated by @impala-dreamer
The Sun (oneshot) by @crashdevlin 
It’s just amazingly beautiful. Short, sweet, and full of wonderful emotion. I loved every single word.
Nominated by anonymous
Dive In With Me (oneshot) by @sp-oops
This was a gorgeous, genuine account of the reader and Sam finally, FINALLY crossing that hurtle.
Coming Home (oneshot) by @there-must-be-a-lock
Lou builds us a story with such detail and precise ache that we forget to breathe. She teaches Dean, repeatedly, that he deserves to be happy.
Shackled (series) by @itmighthavebeenintentional
Val started her Demon!Dean x OFC series like a building storm. Miriam Bard is a fellow hunter, another older sibling with more internal demons than she cares to name. Sam calls her in on an old favor. Before long she doesn’t know if anything is real or who she can trust. Dark fic, so good!
Shattered Breaths (oneshot) by @dontshootmespence
Nicole dove deep for this kink bingo fill, and it is well worth every word. See how the Omega reader learns to trust the Winchesters and just what it takes for them to give up protecting themselves and lean into possibility.
Nominated by @the-girl-who-runs-with-winchesters
Devil May Care (oneshot) by @becs-bunker
This was such an interesting plot idea and amazing storytelling. Not that I had expected anything less from this talented author, of course.
Rough Ride (oneshot) by @luci-in-trenchcoats
A fun quick and very heated oneshot that made me smile at the end :)
All About Lovin’ You (oneshot) by @deanwanddamons
You know me, I can never let a month pass without diving into some angst, nor can I resist praising a fellow guppy for their amazing work. And this one’s got both! I got sucked in right from the start. It goes from heartbreaking to heartwarming, and from hot right back to sweet.
It’s About Time (oneshot) by @sorenmarie87
I randomly came across this one and it made me smile so much. Probably one of the most inventive ways to play matchmaker that I’ve heard so far.
Nominated by @dontshootmespence
For Better or For Worst (series) by @stusbunker
She does intrigue like no one else and doesn’t get the love she deserves!
Marked (series) by @there-must-be-a-lock
This is so fucking vivid it's ridiculous. There's smut, there's angst, there's sweetness and it's all maddeningly good.
Nominated by @negans-lucille-tblr
Desire (onsehot) by @princessmisery666
This fic is the very definition of smangst and I loved every second of it. The fact Stacey claims she can’t write smut baffles me when I read this fic 😍
Dirty Little Secret (series) by @pink1031
Whenever I’m asked what my all time favourite fic is it’s this one. I didn’t read rpf before this but it pulled me in and I’m so glad it did! It was just incredible and gave me my obsession with the idea of dating J2.
Nominated by @lovetusk
Me Likey & We are real (oneshots) by @impala-dreamer 
They were both fantastic and on point. Drunk Dean is a rare and beautiful sight, and there’s nothing I love more than comforting a down and out Sammy. Well done.
Nominated by @impalaimagining
Currently Thinking About Jensen... (oneshot) by @negans-lucille-tblr
This is such a short and effective little piece of smut. The way it teeters on the edge of absolutely and filthily inappropriate puts it on a whole new level of dirty. I am a huge fan of last-line punches to the face no matter what the genre is, and that’s exactly what this is. It leaves you begging for more in the most desperate way. It’s a quick read but it gets the job done.
Midnight Confessions (oneshot) by @katymacsupernatural
I love the way this fic has the reader second guessing herself even though she has no recollection of doing anything to upset the guys. I’m always here for an appearance from Sam to push his stubborn brother and their bunkmate in the right direction. Admittedly, I am a sleep-talker, and I’ve said my fair share of embarrassing things (including yelling at my husband about wanting a grilled cheese at 3am), but if I could just once have something I said in my sleep get me a kiss from Dean Winchester? Hell yes. 
Nominated by @deanwinchesterswitch
Coming Home (oneshot) by @there-must-be-a-lock
This is a beautiful heart wrenching story showcasing Dean’s desire for love and need affection and how few times he actually receives it. Denying himself of what he needs, until he doesn’t.
Unspoken (oneshot) by @deanscherrypie
A wonderful little drabble about how Dean lets you know he loves you without saying anything at all. Such a beautiful line… “All his broken pieces matched yours with mosaic complexity, and somehow you found a new kind of home within each other.”
Don’t Need An Excuse (oneshot) by @amanda-teaches
A beautifully crafted story from Dean’s POV about his girl and the tender loving moments in time that couples share. And, damn that ending, my poor heart.
Nominated by @there-must-be-a-lock
Anything And Everything (oneshot) by @rockhoochie
This fic honestly just took my breath away. You can feel the longing and wistfulness, and the writing is superb. There’s so much depth and detail here, it feels real and vibrant and lived-in, in a way that very few fics do. AND I love she writes Dean’s POV.
He Is, Therefore I am (oneshot) by @stusbunker
All I can say about this one is BROTHERS BEING BROTHERS. It's totally stream-of-consciousness, and it really does feel like you're in their heads.
Leaving Heaven (series) by @thoughtslikeaminefield
Such a badass, snarky narrator with a distinctive voice, and her Demon Dean is dark and awful and sexy as hell, and there's so much depth and nuance in their interactions.
Golden Hour (oneshot) by @fangirlxwritesx67
It's straight-up wish fulfillment, fluffy comforting goodness, and I think everybody needs a little bit of that in their lives right now.
Nominated by @princessmisery666
The Question (oneshot) by @girl-next-door-writes
Death by fluff and it was so worth it !! This was perfect, of course Sam has some grand plan to propose and of course it doesn’t go to plan but ended up perfect anyway!! Was fun and sweet, loved it!!
Carry On (oneshot) by @kittenofdoomage
I love Rhi. I swear everything she writes, even AU’s, could be canon!! Characterizations are always on point, stories are engaging and make me feel something every time. This one is no exception. If I could I would send it to the writers to show them this is how the show should end!!
Kings Don’t Kneel (oneshot) by @slytherkins
A small drabble from Tara and as always it gave me all the feels. It could be canon, if anyone asks me I will tell them this is exactly how Crowley felt. This made me sad and I totally wanted to hug Crowley and tell him it would all be okay. 
Nominated by @thoughtslikeaminefield
Cocky (oneshot) by @stusbunker  
Sexy, fun, and real. I love your Dean, Stuie!
Golden Hour (oneshot) by @fangirlxwritesx67  
Comforting and cozy and swoony!
Nominated by @littlehotmess26
Until The Day I Die Again (oneshot) by @fictionalabyss
Mel writes Dean x Benny amazingly and this fic is one of my favorites. 
Happy Birthday, Baby (oneshot) by @fictionalabyss 
This was a birthday gift to me and it was soo good. Mel did a great job. 
This Isn’t One Of Mine (oneshot) by @sorenmarie87  
Dawn stepped out of her comfort zone for this one and it turned out phenomenal.
Goodbye, Sweetheart (oneshot) by @sorenmarie87 
This fic is heartbreaking and I absolutely love it.
Nominated by @kate-huntington
While You Sleep (oneshot) by @foreverwayward
A heartwarming little fic about Dean living the domesticated life we all wish for him. The writer has a very clever way of storytelling and the end might come as a surprise, only adding to the emotion it already brought along. 
Findings (seires) by @kathaswings 
 This is one of my favorite series out there and I revisited it recently. The overall story arc is a mystery I just had to unravel and I couldn’t put it down if I wanted to. The bond between Dean and Mackenzie is so precious. Writing a child isn’t easy. I’ve read plenty of books and seen plenty of films in which the maturity that was added wasn’t natural, but this author handles the Mac’s dialogue amazingly well. What’s also interesting is the jumps from point of view between Dean and Y/N, giving very personal perspectives on the gripping story.
Heartbeats (oneshot) by @there-must-be-a-lock
I’ll start by saying that I don’t ship Dean and Cas together, but I do appreciate the people who do. What this little piece of art does is incredible, however, because while I was reading, I found myself rooting for them. The writer does a great job by using the literal human heart as a backbone of this story. Intriguing and very well executed.
Everything That’s Yet To Come (oneshot) by @fictionalabyss
The author took me by the hand through this moving little one shot, which feels like a collection of greatest hits and wishes come true. It offers peace and closure not only for the older Winchester brother, but for the reader as well. Beautiful piece of writing.
Take A Drunk Girl Home (oneshot) by @amanda-teaches
Dean taking care of others; it’s his nature and shows what a kind soul he truly is. The situation sketched here is no exception, and it’s softer than one can imagine. The pace is steady and the balance between fluff and comedy is just right. A lovely read.
The Demon Inside Of You (oneshot) by @foreverwayward
Curing Dean from the demon that he has become proves to be difficult when he’s so hard to resist. What else is hard to resist, is this beautiful pitch black one shot. I don’t read Demon!Dean fiction often, because it still feels foreign to see the character that I love so much turn into something so evil. This however, is so gripping and well written, that the darkness swallows up the beholder. Rough, hot, sad, narcissistic, all these ingredients packed up in one hell of a story.
Curves And Edges (oneshot) by @kittenofdoomage
This equally sweet, sexy, funny and sad story is a big shout out to all women who think they don’t meet the beauty standards and feel like they will never be good enough to get noticed. It is one thing to replace a name with Y/N and call it a reader’s insert; it’s a gift to make every person reading this feel like they are the character in this story. The author handles every woman’s insecurities with grace, making her words both relatable and soothing. Her spot on version of Dean reminds us that we are beautiful, desired and unique.
Watch Your Fcking Mouth (oneshot) by @impala-dreamer
Dean falls under a frustrating curse, and it’s the most fun I’ve had in a long time. I was wheezing, couldn’t breathe and died laughing. It’s astonishing how the writer can juggle comedy and sex without the two ruling each other out. An uplifting read.
Life For Rent (series) by @winchest09
Conspiracies, deceit, crime. A strong family bond, blossoming love, oh, not to mention the sex. This series is intriguing beyond imagination and certainly not just another mobster fanfiction. The writing is smart and I could tell from the first paragraph that it’s loaded with hints and foreshadowing, but I couldn’t pick them out. This triggers a curiosity like an itch I can’t quite scratch away until I finish reading this story. And so I wait eagerly and drop everything the second a new chapter comes out. An absolute must read!  
When You Least Expect It (series) by @coffee-obsessed-writer
Talking about an epic love story, but it’s so much more than that. The music that plays such an important factor, the setting that is Seaside. The fabulous supporting characters Bri, Rob, Jason and Jared, the wardrobe, not to mention the wonderful little gems and details that this author weaved into the story, showing how much love she has put into it. This is without a shadow of a doubt my favorite RPF I’ve come across.
Nominated by @girl-with-a-fandom-fettish
The Unexpected (oneshot) by @impalaimagining
The desperation and neediness between characters is just…I can almost feel through the screen. And the gif at the top of the post is the closest thing to porn Tumblr allows now is HOT.
Criminal Love (series) by @kalesrebellion
This mob fic has a lot of things going for it: mob!Dean, big brother Benny (which I didn’t know I needed in my life, but apparently I do), mystery, and a unique way of incorporating a lot of familiar faces from the SPN world. It’s 6 chapters in and I am DYING to see what happens next because the last chapter left me shook!
Unplanned Parenthood (oneshot) by @erins-culinary-service
This fic makes me long for more canon dad!Dean because he’s just so good at it and it feels like it would fit in so well. The author nailed the family vibes and I love that she found a way to make it canon plausible (something I just can’t seem to grasp in my own writing); well done, doll.
Changes (series) by @katehuntington
This fic is super unique as it is like a series rewrite, but rather than using “Pilot, Wendigo, Dead in the Water” etc., Kate is writing her own episodes! Episode 1 just wrapped up, with my personal favorite being part 10 because the characterization of both Winchester brothers felt so spot on to me. Zoe, the amazing OFC and star of this fic, might be the coolest person ever and I wish she was my best friend. Heads up though, this is not your CW Supernatural; it’s darker, dirtier, and probably a lot closer to what the Winchesters’ lives are actually like.
Nominated by @mrswhozeewhatsis
The Man on the Side of the Road (seires) by @supernatural-jackles
This is a seriously awesome Dean AU fic! Both Dean and the reader have so much baggage, but they’re working together to fix each other and it’s just BEAUTIFUL. It’s a series, and I can’t wait to see how it ends!!!
Nominated by @emoryhemsworth
Never Alone Again (oneshot) by @dissect-me 
This author was kind enough to take the time to write about a recent trauma I discovered happened to me as a child and how Dean would react/comfort me. It’s powerful and really helped me. ❤️
Nominated by @fangirlxwritesx67
Laissez Les Bons Temp Rouler (oneshot) by @thoughtslikeaminefield
M is the kind of author that is the reason you have the “four recs per author” rule because otherwise I would just be submitting her entire masterlist every month. For a talent like MJ, all it takes is a photo to spark an entire story. This photo of Jensen was particularly inspiring, and MJ did it justice. Hot, drunk, sexy, just UGH.
Where Is My Shiny Gun (oneshot) by thoughtslikeaminefield
Do you love Dean? Do you love Donna? Do you love Sam? Does your mouth water and your knees go weak just a little thinking about all 3 of them together? Do you need some generous, consensual, sunshiney, smutty love? Then check this out.
Leaving Heaven (series) by thoughtslikeaminefield
Demon Dean meets his match in the most compelling OFC I’ve ever read, bounty hunter Tazi. Where to start with this series? MJ works some of her best magic yet, seamlessly weaving the story into the show we know so well. Her Dean is brilliant, as always, every supporting character spot on. The action is tight, the murder wrenching, the sex smoking. And as good as it is, as perfect as Dean and Sam are, as impatient I am for every chapter .. I would read it all just for Tazi. Tazi is an OFC worthy of novelization: tough, sarcastic, sexy, and fully realized. She’s so beautiful and broken that you can’t help falling in love with her as you read. If I could ask everyone to read just one SPN FF ever, it would be this one.
Three Bad Ideas (series) by @there-must-be-a-lock​
She’s just getting started on her Everything prequels but, by every indicator they will be JUST as filthy as the original, with even more emotional depth and character development. Frankly it’s HOT and heartbreaking and her voice for Jared is so, so good, and so is Jensen, and I’m just all over this love story. I screamed at her when she published, that if I didn’t know what came next, I would be HEARATBROKENED (that’s how excited I got, that I forgot how to speak.)
Ocean Eyes (oneshot) by @there-must-be-a-lock
The ocean is my Happy Place and I’m a sucker for Sam so this fic just hit all my sweet spots. A lot of us are looking for comfort fics right now and this is uniquely heartwarming.
Shackled (series) by @itmighthavebeenintentional
I KNOW this was nominated last month but there are more chapters and it just keeps getting better! For every question that the story answers, it asks two more. Also, it’s started getting smutty and whoooooooo boy.
Anything And Everything (oneshot) by @rockhoochie
I don’t even remember why this lovely lady was asking for prompts but I sent one that I think was, listening to records, first kiss. I had long since forgotten when she dropped this 8K word MASTERPIECE on all of us. 
It’s such a sweet in-character Dean, but a relaxed side of Dean that he deserves and we don’t really get to see. It’s soft and sensual and just… you can feel it while you read.
Nominated by @manawhaat
Sex Ed (oneshot) by @cleighwrites
This is a type of wincest I’m not sure I’ve experienced before, but I can say without a doubt that I fucking love it! It’s your classic little brother Sammy looking up to Dean. It’s the show. It’s their relationship to a T, but with that little bit of helplessness that makes Sam feel like such a fucking kid! I don’t even know if my normal wincest loving self would call this actual Wincest, but wherever it falls on the radar, it’s wonderful!
Passion (oneshot) by @bohowitch
This is poetry in motion, just like Sam is. This is a beautiful, firery, perfect ode to all that is Sam Winchester!
Neptune Rising (oneshot) by @atc74
This is such a clever and refreshing AU! I don’t think I’ve ever read one like this and both characters are nuanced in such believable ways. It’s not too long, so you should definitely take a sec to check it out!
Shackled (series) by @itmighthavebeenintentional
What can I say about this series other than HOLY FUCK!! It’s got twists and turns and secrets and guilt and worry and drama and excitement and passion and fucking everything you want in a good, juicy, keep you on the edge of your seat kind of story!
There’s a feral brutality to the way she portrays Demon!Dean in this that is actually scary and makes me nervous in real life. I find myself looking around the room when I read this, pulling my feet in from off the side of the couch as if this version of Deanmon is gonna snatch me up if I’m not careful. It’s intense and SO. DAMN. COMPELLING. And it’s not even a fucking reader insert. I find myself worrying about Miriam (the ofc) at random parts of the day long after I’ve finished reading the latest chapters...
This series is a fucking MUST READ!
Celibacy, Interrupted (oneshot) by @thoughtslikeaminefield
Any fic with Jody x a Winchester is my jam, but this one is like, no bullshit, just fantastic interaction and sultry, perfect ‘smut’. Goddamn. This leaves me in a pile of goo not even for myself, but FOR JODY!
Let Go (oneshot) by @luci-in-trenchcoats
So bdsm seems to have been a theme in my life for the past month and I don’t know why, but this fucking fits the bill. I recently dodged a bullet with a ‘dom’ (read: a bossy guy who wanted nudes who ignored care and consent) and this fic is like, the complete opposite of what I experienced. I’ve read and done research and talked to enough people to know what real bdsm looks like and that saved me, and this fic only reinforces that proper bdsm lifestyle.
It’s gentle yet firm, and it forces you to let go of control even when you feel like you HAVE to hold onto it. That force caught me off guard when I read it, but it makes so much sense, and every aspect of this really, truly is well thought out and spot on, good, caring bdsm. If you’re interested in it, this is a great place to start your reading and research!
When 2 Is Better Than 1 (oneshot) by @wi-deangirl77
Not only is the smut fucking glorious in this, but Ketch’s gentle nature is 100% what makes this for me! I’m not used to reading him as gentle or caring and having him work with Dean in this to help the reader, not to fill his own needs, but truly coming at it from a place of care and worry, melts me into a pile of gooey feels.
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Thank you all for the awesome work and great feedback!
These are not actual awards! This system is set up so everyone in the pond has a chance to share the love and promote a fic/author that has grabbed your attention. The more people that participate, and the more everyone remembers to submit their own fics after posting, the better this will be :D
THANK YOU ALL AGAIN, KEEP UP THE AMAZING WORK, AND AS ALWAYS, HAPPY WRITING!
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bunnymcbunnister · 4 years
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SPN Season 15 Spoiler Sheet Update 10/19
I put the general spoilers at the end because it was bogging the whole thing down, so if you are looking for those, keep scrolling. 
DISCLAIMER: This is gathered info from various sources. This is not confirmed information. Stuff in this WILL be wrong. Don’t take this too seriously. This is for fun. Also, if you use this info for another publication, please let me know as a courtesy. Don’t be a dick. It's all out there, but it hurts to see my same phrasing on other publications after all the work I’ve done to consolidate it…  
Episode 15x16
Title: Drag Me Away (From You)
OFFICIAL SYNOPSIS: FLASHBACK TO A YOUNG SAM AND DEAN – Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) are asked to investigate the murder of a childhood friend, calling them back to a motel from their past and perplexing the brothers with a case they thought was solved a long time ago. Amyn Kaderali directed the episode written by Meghan Fitzmartin (#1516). Original airdate 10/22/2020.
Written by: Megan Fitzmartin
Director: Amyn Kaderali
Filming Dates: 2/6-2/17
Airdate: October 22nd
Photos:https://www.thetvaddict.com/2020/10/16/supernatural-photos-s15e16-drag-me-away-from-you/
Promo: https://youtu.be/ayOy8gEr4wo
Sneak Peak:
Castiel ? I’m starting to think no? Jack ? not sure either. 
Guest stars: IMDB credits Lisa Berry (Billie/Death) as well as Young Sam, Young Dean and both grown and young Caitlyn
Other Spoilers/info:
Alex got a cast of his face around the filming of this- so this ep or the one after
They filmed at Rooster’s Sunrise Hotel for 3 days/nights
From TVLine- “It worked not only as a case right now, but also as something that informed the journey Sam and Dean have taken, where they started as kids, how they kind of came together and then how that has [led up] to the point that they are, emotionally, when the episode airs. So it ended up being a really good reflection of our guys now, telling a story about our guys then, which, to me, are always the best versions of those types of flashback stories.”
From EW-  "We see the case that kind of brought them together as hunters," Dabb says of the episode, "the first case young Sam and young Dean worked together to a conclusion."
Episode 15x17
Title: Unity
OFFICIAL SYNOPSIS: ONE WAY OR ANOTHER – Dean (Jensen Ackles) hits the road with Jack (Alexander Calvert) who needs to complete a final ritual in the quest to beat Chuck (guest star Rob Benedict). A difference of opinion leaves Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Castiel (Misha Collins) behind looking for answers to questions of their own. Catriona McKenzie directed the episode written by Meredith Glynn (#1517). Original airdate 10/29/2020.
Written by: Meredith Gylnn
Director: Catrion McKenzie
Filming Dates: 2/19-2/28
Airdate: Oct 29th
Photos: 
Promo:
Sneak Peak:
Castiel ? yes Jack ? yes
Guest stars: Rob benedict and Emily Sparrow IMDB credits Robert Wisdom (Uriel)
Other Spoilers/info:
Chuck and Amara trailers were seen on set when filming in a garden
Jensen was in NOLA Friday, possible Monday
“Uriel” was around for filming (Post COVID update: Misha seemed to indicate that this was because the actor was nearby filming? Not sure if this is to cover up the spoiler or the truth)
Alex and Jensen filmed in the impala
Episode 15x18
Title: Despair (it was The Truth at some point I think)
OFFICIAL SYNOPSIS: RICHARD SPEIGHT, JR. DIRECTS – With the plan in full motion, Sam (Jared Padalecki), Dean (Jensen Ackles), Castiel (Misha Collins) and Jack (Alexander Calvert) fight for the good of the common goal. Richard Speight, Jr. directed the episode written by Robert Berens (#1518). Original airdate 11/5/2020. 
Written by: BOBO
Director: Speight
Filming Dates: 3/2--3/11
Airdate: Nov 5th
Photos: 
Promo:
Sneak Peak:
Castiel ? yes Jack ? yes
Guest stars:  IMDB credits Billie
Other Spoilers/info:
Misha and Alex filmed near the impala. J2 showed up later that night. This was the source of the “last time they all filmed on set” photo
A really emotional scene was filmed with Misha and Jensen. Jared was definitely not there, but Alex was on the flight they took with Rich, so its possible he was too. This was revealed at a con in which the four of them were on a plane that had an in-flight problem.
Filming watchers saw a bro hug
Tape Ball posted a shot of field that looks like where dean came back from hell
Misha indicated this was his “favorite episode” in a recent interview
From EW- Ackles, having recently done ADR on episode 18, says he had forgotten how "monumental" the hour is.
Episode 15x19
Title: Inherit the Earth
OFFICIAL SYNOPSIS: 
Written by: bucklelimg
Director: John Showalter
Filming Dates:: 3/12-3/23/cancelled for COVID and then 8/18-8/27
Airdate: Nov 12th
Photos: 
Promo:
Sneak Peak:
Castiel ? unknown Jack ? yes
Guest stars: Jake Abel (Micheal), Mark Pelligrino (Lucifer) 
Other Spoilers/info:
Production shut down as a precaution for coronavirus on 3/13, two days into filming. It is scheduled to start again on Aug 18th. 
Jensen indicated there might be some re-writes for this ep to account for COVID protocols.
When they started filming, they indicated they were on day two. So maybe they could only use some of the scenes they shot? Then they added an extra day all called it day 9. COVID protocols makes things take longer 
AlCal was definitely on set. 
Jake Abel was definitely on set, and he posted an instagram story with his trailer and Lucifer’s (Mark Pelligrino)
Some filming was done at a gas station called Showalter’s (name of the director) with Jared, Jensen, and Alex
Jake “Spoiler King” Abel filmed a video showing chairs for Jared, Jensen, and Alex as well as Rob Benedict (Chuck/God). They were filming near a lake with a mountain view (that looked similar to where Cas died in season 13)
Rob Benedict posted it was his last day in Vancouver, indicating we won't see Chuck past this episode? Or very very briefly in 20? Jake Abel posted a similar message, also baiting fans about Misha’s whereabouts 
Scene “28” took several days and seemed to go across both 19 and 20? So they might have done some combo filming?
 Episode 15x20
Title: Carry On
OFFICIAL SYNOPSIS: 
Written by: Dabb
Director: Bob Singer
Filming Dates: 8/28- 9/10  
Airdate: November 19th
Photos: 
Promo:
Sneak Peak:
Castiel ? maaaaybe? Jack ? maaaaybe?
Guest stars: Jim Beaver
Other Spoilers/info:
Jensen indicated filming would take two weeks, longer than usual (looks like a 9 day shoot, with a day off for Labor Day)
According to Superwiki, 9/3 was the last day on the bunker set, the final days are on location. 
Scene “28” took several days and seemed to go across both 19 and 20? So they might have done some combo filming?
Filming locations seemed to include a barn (pic with a stunt guy showed wooden walls and straw) and a lake (not the mountain lake from 19), and a forest. Filming signs spotted at Lower Seymour Conservation Reserve. 
Jim Beaver confirmed his appearance on Twitter
There was a pic of J2 with baby on a bridge. Baby had her original plates. They seem to be wearing the same clothes they were in the pilot. There may be grey (??) In their hair, but that could be lighting
Misha posted some creation videos, saying he had been on an impromptu camping trip. He was back in his house. They were posted on the last day of filming and he had pretty decent scruff. He also mentioned that it was the last day of filming and he wasn't up there. 
The show officially wrapped at 6:25 on 9/10
Jared said “the last time Sam and Dean see each other is the last time Jared and Jensen film together” but seem to imply that was not the final scene? It was a confusing answer to a question about filming the final scene. 
IMDB credits a vampire?
 General Info (oldest to newest). This is a blend of pre-COVID and post COVID, so some might change. 
Misha will be in 15 out of 20 episodes this season (he’s missed 4 so far. Unclear about 16, 19, and 20). 
JaxCon/Vegas Con spoilers: 
Misha said the ending was “happier than he expected” but also had some sadness. He later used “sad and redemptive”
Dean says the line “stop killing my people” (to god?)
Jensen said he doesn’t see how the story could continue past this season, but Jared said its more of “a see you later” (in more recent interviews, Dabb seems to shut that down completely)
Al Cal posted a pic of a “thrown away” call sheet that seems to indicate Micheal, Lucifer, and a character named “Betty” interacting in the bunker. Unclear as to the validity, could be from 19 based on casting 
Charlie (original flavor) will return
Filming resumed on Aug 18th. Per Canadian policy, they must quarantine for two weeks. Those quarantining seemed to include:
Fairly Clear: Jared, Jensen, Jake Abel (Micheal), Rob Benedict (Chuck/God) Mark Pelligrino (Lucifer), Al Cal (didn't need to quarantine, but he is definitely on set), Jim Beaver (Bobby)
Unclear/Rumored: Misha (he is being deliberately cagey), Osric Chau (Kevin- but likely for another project, he was a week ahead of everyone else)
Reasons Unlikely: Sam Smith (chemo treatment), Kim Rhodes (working at a camp during quarantine), Ruth Connell (posted from Malibu the entire time)
No idea: Shoshannah Stern 
Jensen said sp 19 is more of a season finale, while 20 is a series finale. Repeated in interviews/livestreams. 
Jensen indicated that the ending did change per COVID protocols. Later interviews confirmed this, but it seemed to indicate the changes were in regards to how many people filmed at once (crowd scenes, recurring characters returning)
Misha is being very, very cagey about where he was. Some live streams seem to indicate he is not at home, but he has yet to confirm- his presence in 19/20 is hard to track. In an interview with Metaverse, he was in bed in a hotel looking space and you could see mountains in the background. He was not on set for the first week of filming, so he could be a week behind. 
Misha has thrown around the words “final”  and “what he <Misha> would have wanted” per Cas’ ending. “Sad/Proud” and “poignant” were also used. His latest line is “sad but satisfying”
The finale will air Nov 19th in conjunction with an hour long special. 
Dabb confirmed to TV line the episode 19/20 explanation Jensen’s mentioned- For the most part, we wrap up a big chunk of our mythology in Episode 19,Episode 20 is more character-based and is more concerned with Sam, Dean and this family they’ve built around them than it is with figuring out the Case of the Week.
When talking about the lightheartedness of returning on ep 14, Dabb said deeply depressing and upsetting episodes are coming (USAToday). He also said we would see “new sides” of Jack, Cas, and Billie. A revisit of Chuck and Amara’s “sibling issues” as well is on tap. Jared said sacrifices are coming. 
From TV Line-  re the battle with Chuck. Allies will return, but was repeated several times in the article that is comes down to Sam and Dean. Jack will struggle with getting his soul back but will be helped by Cas. 
It was confirmed there will be no appearances by mamma and papa Winchester, possible due to COVID. (TVLine). 
According to ET there will be lots of “Easter Eggs” in the finale from early episodes. TV Line furthered that by Jared confirming Sam and Dean “in the way they began”
One singular interview asked about Cas and Jack (SyFy) and we got this “Cas has had a very long evolution on this show, but an evolution to an emotionally healthy place, which is generally speaking not something we do a ton. It means someone is at least emotionally healthy on this show.” Jack will be dealing with having a soul and the mistakes he made, particularly Mary. 
A trailer was released on 8/27. Scenes included (taken out as shown to save space
A moving speech from Sam to Dean
A teary conversation between Dean and Cas
Injured Dean being helped by Cas in the bunker
Ghost Dean? Little Sam cutting off a hand
Some intermixed scenes from past episodes
https://youtu.be/d5AzUa5zABI
A second trailer was released on 8/31. Scenes included:
A monologue from Billie about god coming to destroy the planet plus her banging on a bunker door (with her hand all gooey) and striking someone with her scythe
Jack continuing his speech about killing god but expanding that he has a ritual to do
Chuck in the bunker/Chuck saying he doesn't believe Sam and Dean can kill him
Young Sam and not ghost Young dean
Dean angrily driving the Impala then saying “its time”
More Dean tears
A surprise appearance from Bobby
Some of the same scenes as before
https://youtu.be/mBTwCWkOFKw
A third trailer was released on 9/24. It was a rehash of the other two, but a new new scenes included: ttps://youtu.be/7oVO9BdADnQ
A Shaving People, Punting Things trailer was released on 10/2. Scenes included:
Dean in a bar with a blond woman
Sam by the mountain lake with facial wounds
Team Free Will 2.0 in  a bunker corridor, Jack looking injured (?)
Sam, Dean, and Jack walking down a street/later in a church/in the Impala
Sad Dean in the dungeon/Sad Sam drinking and knocking over a book
Sad Jack and Cas leaning on the Impala
Scattered shot of Sad Sam and Dean (drinking in the bunker, learning against the Impala)
Sam/Donna hug
Dean entering a motel room
Amara looking blissful
Dean giving Sam an encouraging face pat
Billie choking Cas
Sam in Death’s library, hurting
Billie swinging a scythe
Many behind the scenes shots, including one of Felicia Day (Charlie)
https://youtu.be/yex3jbuf8Mo
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missjackil · 4 years
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So Im Rewatching S15
Thus far its not my fave season but no season ever is till after the half, and we havent had much after the half yet LOL. I noticed an inconsistancy in the episode where Lilith came back (I cant remember the name) that I didnt notice before... Sam shoots her with a demon trap bullet and comes at her with the demon blade, he says “I killed you once, I can do it again” and it made me think they must have forgotten in s3 she told them the blade wouldnt work against her, and Sam killed her in s4 with his powers. 
I groaned for a minute, and yes it’s annoying, but as I always say, bad writing and inconsistancies have been around since the very beginning. I remember picking them out one by one when I watched it the first time, my friend who got me to watch it thought i probably wouldnt want to finish because I seemed to not like it, since i would always find fault. Though I admit I wasnt a big fan till the 2nd half of s2, I think I may have come to a conclusion as to why I still love it and wish it would go on forever, and why I can still watch my least fav seasons with joy. 
Its about Sam and Dean. Thats what I fell in love with, and thats why I stay. With that. no matter how inconsistant the writing has been, they did manage to create the most interesting characters in Sam snd Dean that Ive ever come across. They got more than lucky that Jared and Jensen showed up that day because i cant imagine anyone in all of Hollywood that could have done Sam and Dean better. 
It makes me sad now as to how many people have lost hope in the show because if the writing, yet, say they love Sam and Dean and the show is about the brothers. Y’all may not like the stories as of late, but Sam and Dean are closer than ever, and just as interesting now as theyve ever been dispite who and what is going on around them. 
This is what the show is to me. Two amazingly interesting, beautiful brothers, and a bunch of chaos around them. Throw at me anything you want but keep Sam and Dean together and J2 playing them and i would watch it forever. 
If I love someone, Id never stop loving them or break apart from them because I dont like their friend, or their mom, or they had a bad day, week, month, year. Id groan and muddle through the bad and be there forever. 
So, as Im sure youre aware my heart is breaking that my time with Sam and Dean is coming to an end. i would like to ask any of you that are willing, to just stop worrying about the outside stuff and love the show just a little while longer because its still about The Brothers and will be forever. 
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houseofglass · 5 years
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When Jensen released the video announcing the conclusion of the series, I had a very weird feeling. I respect their decision but I think it was more Jensen idea than Jared and this annoys me a lot, but it seems that if you say something like that you are not a real fan. What do you think about it? You have no idea of ​​the insults I took because I dared to say that Jared and Jensen think differently...
I agree with you Nonny. I think it was Jensen’s idea too.
Bottom line: Jensen wants to move on, therefore, the show must end.
Longer version:
Jared has wanted to leave the show for a long time. Or, maybe not leave, but definitely not be in front of a camera for a while. He’s said that he’d like some time off after spn ends, but any actor that takes time off rarely gets back in the spotlight. But he wouldn’t leave as long as Jensen wanted to keep doing the show. Jared didn’t want to put the crew out of work (Oprah had similar concerns with her show, and I think she gave two or three years notice before ending), but he was also burning out. The show gracefully allowed more characters to reappear, which gave Jared a lighter workload. This worked for years.
Jensen wants to stay in the industry, but that means they can’t just end spn, they have to plan it out to the last day. In that planning is prep work for Jensen to show the industry who he is, what he’s capable of, and that he’s on the market again. That involves PR work to help guide public perceptions. This can be seen by Jensen’s public image lately: Architectural Digest shoot, King Bacchus, FBBC heavily promoted, and the texting ad, just to name the ones off the top of my head. This is radically different from Jared’s public persona: meeting fans, partying, drinking, and marathon running.
The video showed me that Jensen is ready for the next step, but Jared needs more time to mourn. But houseofglass, you said Jared wanted to leave! Yes, but he holds his emotions much closer to the surface than Jensen does. I think Jared, even though he’s tired, would have kept going on with the show just to keep his lifestyle afloat. I also think that even though they planned this out, seriously planned it, that it wasn’t real for Jared until they told the crew. As long as the workplace was in the dark, Jared could keep his fantasy of leaving alive. But once it became reality, several things probably fell into place for him.
What are those things? This depends on your perceptions Nonny. I don’t know if you’re a tinhat, a shipper, or a casual fan, so I’ll give a couple of explanations.
Casual Fan:Both have said they’ll keep going until the writing doesn’t work. Well, objectively, that would’ve been a few seasons ago. I mean, God’s sister? Crowley had a mother? WTF? The writers have been adding extra characters, presumably to give J2 time off, but the show has suffered as a result. Anyway. Let’s move on.
Jared’s adult life has been consumed by this show. He was 22 when he filmed the pilot, and is now 37. He has no idea of what adult life is without the show. Everything hinges on it. Travel, family time, filming, vacations, work related PR, conventions, meeting fans, all of it. Sure, he acted before the show and had a life before it as well. But his formative adult years were spent at one job. Imagine being married during the same age range for the same duration. Ending that marriage, whether toxic or not, is difficult.
Without the show, Jared has to figure out who he is and what he wants to do to fill his days. That’s really scary for someone who has mental illness or spends a lot of time inside their own head. As soon as the crew was notified, Jared had to face up to the fact that he agreed to this, that his life will now change, that his cornerstone is going to be gone, that it’s now REAL. So while he might have been ready to move on intellectually, he wasn’t quite ready to deal with the reality of it.
Jensen wants to keep working and try new things. Supernatural is holding him back. Don’t @ me, it is holding him back. He’s typecast. Pigeonholed. He’s Dean Winchester; tough guy with a soft heart. Trying to get another role will be difficult. If he stays in the industry and works behind the scenes he has a better chance, but first he needs to put spn behind him.
He knows Jared wants a break. He knows the crew will be unemployed. He knows spn contributes a lot to Vancouver/BC’s economy. He also knows he has to do difficult things to get what he wants. He has to end the show, and do it gracefully. I have no doubt he’s shaken up by his decision, but is comfortable with it.
Jared, however, seemed less comfortable with it even though he’s made it clear he wants a break. Wanting something and getting it are two different emotional states.
Shipper:Shipping isn’t a problem for J2. Kim Manners used to show them the Wincest fics and even print them out and post them on a bulletin board. J2 found it funny and a good release of creative energy. Neither appeared to have any issue with shipping.
Until they did.
Jensen could brush off all Destiel shipping questions pretty easily at first. It was an expression of creativity and his attitude was ‘to each their own’. But some Destiel shippers became militant and started asking invasive questions at cons. They also started hounding him on SM about Destiel. He’s handled it very well over the years, despite the hatred he received in return. But when he said, “Destiel doesn’t exist” at a con, I think that was the turning point for him.
Dean Winchester was a character Jensen really liked. Kinda tough, liked cars, masculine, good-natured, free lifestyle, that kind of thing. But somehow Dean got boiled down to half of Destiel. And I don’t mean with just the fans. I have eyes, I’ve seen the show, they queerbaited Cas and Dean when Cas was new. Although I think a lot of that queerbaiting was in the editing room. They could slow film down or change the colour saturation if they chose to, and this could change the audience’s perceptions of what’s going on.
Sidebar: I watched a show named unREAL which was about the producers of a show like The Bachelor, and in unREAL they demonstrated how to make two people look like they had chemistry. I had to pause the show, rewind, and watch again. I didn’t know that slowing film down could make glances seem significant. I know now.
So, here’s Jensen, playing a character he likes, only to have it 'twisted’ into something he doesn’t believe it is. For a while this was fine. Let the fans think what they want, it brings in ratings, it doesn’t change how he acted. Then it wasn’t fine, he got more and more irritated with the whole thing. If he kept going on with the show, he might have had to play a character in a way that was more like pandering and less like being authentic to the character.
On that note, Jensen has been distancing himself from Misha over the years. Why? Because Misha fuels Destiel whenever possible. Well, not lately. He’s switched to Sastiel. Anyway, despite being able to draw a crowd at a con with a Destiel panel, Jensen only does one a year: Jus In Bello. Please gently correct me if I’m wrong here, but I’m sure there’s only one Destiel panel and it’s in Rome. Jensen participated in the charity campaign with Misha, but not much since then. I suspect he did it because TPTB insisted he do something, and he agreed to the YANA campaign. Remember, celebrities are beholden to PR.
So now Jensen is doing a show with a person that isn’t respecting a boundary (stop pushing Destiel), and the perceptions of his character have changed in a way he doesn’t like. Time to end the show. Being a true professional, he ensured the fans and crew had enough notice to adjust to the idea.
Jared didn’t seem bothered by any shipping at all. If this is the primary reason for the show’s end, it was Jensen’s idea more than Jared’s IMO.
Tinhat:I believe Jared wanted to end the show after PR tried to separate him and Jensen by insisting they get married to women. Jared’s first breakdown was right about that time, and I always wondered if it was because he was living in a happy bubble with his lover and his show, and now he had to pander to the (perceived) hetero audience. Leading men just could not be gay back in the day. There’s more outed gay actors now, but fifteen years ago things were different. He held on, did as he was told, and his world continued.
Jared’s marriage seems to be falling apart, and I, personally, suspect it’s already over and done. Papers signed, custody arrangements made, properties split. If the show was still going on, he’d have to field questions about his divorce. But, if the show is announced it’s ending and then he announces his divorce, the divorce will take a back seat to the show’s finale. Timing is everything.
Jensen has seemed happy as a pig in shit for the entire run of the show. Sure, he’s had bad days, but mostly he’s enjoyed his time on spn and the lifestyle it’s awarded him. He didn’t seem as upset about getting married as Jared did (seriously, go find the pics of Jared’s wedding. He looked like he was kissing something repugnant), but Jensen had a different upbringing that conditioned him for a celebrity lifestyle. He probably knew beards were mandatory and it was just a matter of when, not if.
In order for them to still spend a ridiculous amount of time together, they had to keep the show going. It wasn’t a problem, the network was fine with it. But the pressure was hard for Jared and has been for a long time. If not for Jensen, Jared would have left years ago.
But then they announced the show was ending and their reactions were a bit off. Jensen appeared somewhat together, a bit excited, a bit sad, but ready. Jared looked like he’d been crying for hours and still had days worth of tears to shed.
The tinhat in me says this is because their entire world is about to change, and it may not be for the better. Nobody can predict the future. How much of J2’s success as a couple is reliant on them being together for most of the time? How will they navigate their relationship if only one is working? Will they come out? Probably not, if Jensen wants to stay in the industry. Jared won’t have his lover acting with him, he won’t have his lover for most of the hours in a day/week/month/year. He’s going to be alone, and that’s scary.
For the tinats: I’m not saying their relationship won’t survive. I don’t have a crystal ball. But it might be rocky at first while they figure out their new dynamics.
TL;DR: yes, Jensen seemed happier than Jared in the video. Jared seemed much more upset, and even tried to look at Jensen, who looked toward Misha instead of meeting his eyes.
Oh, and I didn’t really address Misha in this because it’s always been said that as long as J2 want the show to continue, it will. Him being in the video is more of a PR thing to me: Misha also needs to build his portfolio and I suspect his agent has negotiated more uh, 'lead exposure’? for him. I don’t know what the correct phrasing is, but he’s been lumped with J2 more and more lately.
Oh, and if you read this far, thanks for letting me babble :)
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hippychick006 · 5 years
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14.19 - Jack in the Box Recap
I mean I absolutely loved this episode, one of my favourites, if not the best episode ever written.
But enough about The Benders… this recap/review is on 14.19, Jack in the Box. Predictions have been coming in ever since the episode title was released that Jack was going to end up in the box that Dean built for himself way back in the season.  I was hoping we weren’t going to go that literal, but no, the episode ultimately does exactly what it says on the title.
Some excellent scenes, but as is usual with me, a lot of things that irk so scroll on by to the next post if you want to avoid negativity, particularly note the tags.
This one was a mixed bag, I’m not too sure how I feel yet about the episode as a whole.  It’s not a love love love, but it’s not a clunker either.  That aside, there’s no denying there were several stand out scenes that, regardless of who did what to whom, made for some pretty awesome television between the actors, all of whom brought their A game.  2 scenes in particular between Sam and Dean and 1 between Dean, Sam and Jack.  A lot of the other scenes were actually okay, and they packed a surprising amount into this episode that didn’t leave me with whiplash for once - which Buck-Leming episodes have a tendency to do.
Most of my negativity on this one is on the opening couple of scenes, but my mood does get better as the post goes on... I think.
I don’t know if anyone else notice the opening montages, but Sam and Dean are barely in this one.  This is the penultimate episode and your number 1 and 2 on the call sheet got a scant few seconds of recap.  It was all Castiel, Jack, Nick and the angels. We don’t even get a shot of Sam’s face at Mary’s replicant burning, just Dean. For me, it’s just a reflection of the issues I’ve been having with this season in particular; if the recap for the penultimate episode doesn’t have much of your leads in it, then that to me is a problem for your writing. JMHO.  Others can and do disagree, no biggie.
We open on what appears to be a wake for Mary. Complete and total strangers they’ve pulled off the streets of Vancouver to stand around looking sadly at personal objects of Mary’s on the map table.  I think once again I’m supposed to be sad, and I am, seriously, I’m in mourning for my show. I’m in mourning because this scene if they’d written the character and story correctly and hadn’t cheapened death, should have been sad and it just… isn’t.  kicks my stuck record player and moves on.  
Mary’s three sons – Sam, Dean and Castiel – and I can’t with this god damn fan fiction pandering shit – come out from the library and Dean speaks to the strangers.  “We know that her family were beyond just us.” (Family mention right out the gate, fantastic, I’m always worried they won’t fit in enough family references throughout the episode). Thankfully, for the safety of my television 28 floors up, Dean points to just Sam when he says, “just us.”  But I need someone else’s input, but was this line a dig?  I feel that it’s a dig, and given the writers and showrunners, I wouldn’t put it past them to get snarky because a lot of us haven’t liked the “found family” bullshit they’ve tried to force and haven’t been quiet about it.
I know I’m not meant to, but I can’t help laughing my way through this scene, particularly when Dean describes Mary as someone who was “tough, strong… stubborn as hell” (which she is, that’s not the problem), but it’s the fact that raises a chuckle from the complete strangers who all nod and go “yes, that was her!” Sam’s just nodding his way through this (like the Churchill bulldog in a British TV ad for insurance), but we do get the camera moving to him at one point so they’ve remembered he’s one of her sons, even though they didn’t show him the same way as Dean in the montage earlier… (sometimes I’m just a bitter Sam fan, ignore me and move on)
They raise a toast to mom and say goodbye.  
Just as they are finishing, one of the strangers gets hit with an axe to the head. All the hunters immediately rush into action, running for weapons and preparing to deal with whatever just did it because they are hunters, that’s how hunters react when under attack.
I wish, but no, they all just stand around not really doing much of anything, other than looking clueless, until fake!Bobby walks in and smiles at them.  
Turns out to be a wraith from a nest that Bobby and Mary took out on their last hunt.  Okay, I’m going to go ahead and allow that Sam and Dean are far too grief stricken to apply tests to people, so they just allow everyone to walk straight into the bunker (test for a wraith by the way would be a mirror).  I’m also going to presume they all knew the “hunter” wasn’t from the AU, but everyone just though he was Random!hunters plus 1 so didn’t think to ask who the hell he was.  
Fake!Bobby asks how Sam is.  He answers that it’s tough. Fake!Bobby asks “And the other one" nodding his head at Dean.  Sam responds, “Dean… he seems to doing okay, hard to say.”   Fake!Bobby: “Yeah, maybe he’s like me, being teary in public is not my style.” I think this line is to remind us that Fake!Bobby isn’t our Bobby and he really doesn’t know them at all. Worth noting that Castiel doesn’t get asked how he feels so make of that what you will.
Dean’s packing up the personal effects into a box, Sam tells him most everyone else is heading out, he suggests they open the bottle of scotch Ketch left, hang around and talk about mom.  Dean: “Talk about mom? Isn’t that what we’ve been doing?” He leaves the room, leaving Fake!Bobby, Castiel and Sam just standing there.
Sastiel are in the kitchen looking at a picture of Mary, when Fake!Bobby joins them, bringing a beer for Sam.  Fake!Bobby asks Sam what happened to Mary because he’s hearing “the kid…” He doesn’t finish because Dean walks in. Castiel’s still trying to get back in Dean’s good books and asks if he needs anything.  Dean says that yeah, he needs a drink.  Fake!Bobby tells him the bar's open and points to the fridge.  Dean says no, he’s going to go out for a while.  
Sam says they need to talk about Jack (which is 100% Sam because he never allows himself to grieve, he locks it up and focuses on the problem at hand, he did the same with Jessica, their dad and now again with their mom). He’s as dysfunctional as Dean is when it comes to facing his grief.  But I think Sam is also more accepting of her death than Dean, because he knows she’s in a happy place (which he believed for Jessica and their dad due to his faith, but at the time of their deaths, he didn’t know for sure), so I think he’s sad, yes, but I don’t know that he thinks it’s altogether bad that she’s with their dad and no longer having to hunt, whereas I think Dean’s coming from his perspective, he’s lost his mother all over again.
Dean says, “we will” (talk about Jack later) and then walks out.  Sam’s not overly happy about it, but he knows his brother and he’s learned that this is the way Dean deals with grief and he doesn’t go running after him.
As soon as Dean leaves, Fake!Bobby turns to Sam and says, “About that, I liked the kid, we fought together, but there’s only one way this ends.”
Castiel: Bobby’s right, we have to find Jack and help him.
Oh Castiel, I really don’t think that’s what Fake!Bobby meant.
Sure enough, Fake!Bobby’s face when he looks at Castiel could turn him to stone, “What? That kid, he killed Mary.”
Castiel: I know that…
Fake!Bobby: Don’t say but…
Castiel: But…he, Jack may not even realise that what he did was wrong
Fake!Bobby: If his human side is gone, you know what’s left… Lucifer.  Now if you boys want to sit around and talk, fine, but me, I’m going to get on the horn to some of my people and go find that boy.
Castiel: And what then?
Fake!Bobby: An unstoppable monster, who don’t know right from wrong, gets put down, or the closest we can get to it, and anybody who don’t know that, needs to go back to school
I’ve put this whole dialogue in to point out that Sam says nothing during that entire scene.  He was window dressing. They wrote an entire scene for side character fake!Bobby and side character Castiel with Sam in it, so anyone, anyone at all that says we don’t get better writing for J2 because “J2 want time off…” I’ll be slapping this scene down every single time because Jared was there, he just wasn’t being used.  
Jack looks to be in an abandoned warehouse.  He’s flashing back to killing Mary. He says, “I wish you were here… mom” and I think some people (those watching the fan fiction version of the episode) are interpreting that as Mary, but it’s Kelly he’s calling for. He knows who his mother is. He asks her to tell him what to do.
Hallucifer appears saying the usual stuff; that the Winchesters don’t care about him.  He’s nothing to them, just a little pet monster.  Jack responds that no, they’ll understand, “I’ll explain to them, it was an accident, and I tried to bring her back, and… they’ve made mistakes too…” Hallucifer tells Jack they hate him and Jack’s all he’s got, and him.
We switch to night and see the impala is parked and the music in this scene would be best utilised in a b movie horror flick. Oh wait…
It’s really dark, but I eventually see Dean and he’s crying out in the middle of nowhere and yes this is sad, and yes Jensen is great, but I’d love the scene a lot more if it hadn’t become forced over the last couple of seasons.  It’s just “oh, it’s that time of the season where Dean cries.” Okay then.  And as I’ve said, this isn’t on Jensen at all, but these scenes are just no longer organic for me personally - great if you still enjoy them. 
We’re in heaven, I hate heaven.  I hate how corporate it is. The same with Hell. Actually the same with wherever Death lives too.  They’ve turned all these places into corporations. Duma hands a file to a minion and Cass appears.  He wants to see Naomi and Duma tells him once again that she is unavailable. Cass presses why, Duma tells him Naomi’s been demoted and is in a tiny cell, Duma’s currently in charge. Castiel tells her he needed Naomi’s help in finding an archangel. Zzzzzzzz
Duma says that there’s none left.  Castiel tells her about the problem with Jack and that he has grown “massively powerful… dangerously so”.  
Why would you tell the angels that?  Weren’t they after Jack’s powers at one point to sort out heaven?  Even without that, when have the angels ever done anything that can be trusted, Castiel?
Castiel tells her that Jack’s burned through his soul and is on the run from the Winchesters, fearing their fury, but he thinks Jack can be salvaged and “rehabilitated with patient moulding and guidance.”  
Duma says she’ll see what she can do.  Me: Yeah, I bet you will.
Sam’s on his laptop when Dean returns.   He asks Dean how he’s feeling, which Dean ignores to ask Sam what he’s working on. Sam says he’s trying to find Jack and that they need to find him, “before Bobby and his crew because if they find him first…”  Dean: “He’s going to kill them all.”  Sam says he doesn’t know. Then with no lead in, to what they were just talking about, Sam randomly says that he can’t stop thinking about mom.
Sam: I can’t stop thinking that… most people, it’s, it’s, it’s… hope and faith, right?  That’s all they have, but we know the truth, we know God is real, we know Angels are real, too…”
Dean: God writes paperback books in his underwear, okay… and angels are dicks.”
Sam: But, they’re real, right… we know that mom’s not sitting on a cloud, playing a harp, she’s in a good place, she’s in a great place, she’s with dad…”
Dean nods, and responds, “You know what else, there wasn’t even enough of her left to even try to bring her back.”
I think some people had a problem with this promo clip, and I did too when I saw it.  The conversation doesn’t seem to connect.  It could possibly have been written better, but I don’t think it’s supposed to connect.  Sam brings up mom, because he wants Dean to understand that even though she’s dead, they know she’s happy, that her being dead and with their dad isn’t the worst thing.  I believe it’s the start of Sam’s campaign on trying to get Dean to rethink about Jack. Sam - though he’s not coming right out and saying it (because he knows his brother) - is still Team Save Jack (with Castiel). Dean on the other hand is reminding Sam, that what Jack did was so terrible, that there was nothing that could be brought back and there’s no coming back from that.  So he knows what Sam is doing and he’s making it clear he’s no longer Team Save Jack.  That’s just my thoughts on this scene, because otherwise, yeah, I’ve got nothing.
Back with Jack, and Duma has found him.  Jack asks how she found him, but the writers don’t want to bother to explain the unexplainable, so Duma ignores it, and tells Jack exactly what he wants to hear, “It wasn’t your fault… it was a mistake. That doesn’t mean you don’t deserve redemption.  I know, heaven knows, your mother knows that you have a glorious destiny.”
Puppy!Jack: I do?
Duma: You couldn’t save Mary Winchester, but you can save so many others, even heaven itself. You could make the world so much better.  And think how happy that would make Sam and Dean.
Oh you complete bit... 
Jack visits the office of a Dr Tate, who seems to write books on “the hidden agenda of religion.” and “imagine there is no heaven.” I quietly sing “above us only sky…” as Dr Tate asks (without looking up), “You’ve come about the leak in my bathroom?”   We switch back to Jack, and Duma has appeared suddenly beside him, and can I just say, Duma has to the be the quietest angel ever, not a single flap of wings to announce her presence, very similar to my other favourite angel Zachariah.  
She says “hardly.” (to the question about the leak).  She has a conversation with Dr Tate about his beliefs, which don’t seem to match with Heavens - in that he doesn’t believe in Heaven.  Duma tells him, “in more civilised times that was called heresy, and those ideas were an affront to heaven.”  
Dr Tate: If there were a heaven.
Puppy!Jack (enthusiastically): Oh… there is, I’ve been there.
Dr Tate: I see!  And I suppose you saw god?
Puppy!Jack (sadly): No… but he is my grandfather
Dr Tate: Huh… so that would make your father…
Puppy!Jack: Lucifer.
Duma: “Dr Tate, heaven is not unreasonable, you can avoid divine retribution by announcing to your considerable audience, that you’ve had a revelation, that everything you’ve written to date is false, that God is good...”
Dr Tate: Security!!
Or he tries to call security, but Jack TK’s the phone away and turns him to salt. Jack smiles when he’s done and the puppy thinks he’s done something good, but he’s done way worse than pee on the rug. Bad Jack, very, very bad!  
Once again, Dean is off to the side and Team Sastiel (also known as Team Save Jack) are sitting together at a table.  Castiel has updated Sam and Dean about his trip to heaven. Sam’s on board, “So the angels, they’re going to help us?”
Castiel: I was promised every effort would be made to locate Jack.
Dean (to Cass): Oh, heaven promised? Great. (to Sam). Well, we should take that to the bank.
Castiel: Jack’s powers could also be a threat, it serves them to help find him.
No shit Sherlock.  But it also serves them to find him and use him.  What were you even thinking?  But it’s that time of the season you try to help by doing something dumb that’s going to backfire spectaculacularly, so what can we all do, but accept it?
Sam says he’s been looking for anything weird and reads from his laptop telling them a university professor was turned into salt.  Dean asks why that sounds familiar and Castiel answers that it’s biblical.  The thing is, Dean’s been shown to know the bible, as has Sam so I would think they would know this common story - maybe not others, but this one for sure.
Sam goes on to explain that the professor was an atheist, that wrote a bunch of books trying to disprove god and heaven.
Dean: Okay, so you think an angel iced him.
Castiel: No ordinary angel could do something like that.
Switch to Dean’s thinky face.
Sam tells them there’s another, a few hours later a woman (a fake faith healer according to the headline) fell into a crevice that had opened up and she was killed.  Dean asks, “Like a sinkhole?”  Sam said, “That’s what I thought too, but a witness said it was more like a fissure opened under her feet then closed back up with her inside).
Castiel quotes from the bible and says its 26:10
Sam says she a tv evangelist under investigation for stealing thousands of dollars through fake charities.
Dean: So… either Chuck came back, which that ain’t gonna happen (sledgehammer anvil warning or spoiler alert) or…”
Castiel: Jack
Jack’s back in heaven with Duma who tells him he’s done excellent work.  That working together they can bring the glory days back (or words to that effect). Jack is only interested in one thing, “Sam and Dean will like that?”  Me: *pets.  Duma responds, “Words can’t begin to express how Sam and Dean will feel.” Me: Oh, you betcha. (wait, was I just channeling Donna?). Duma brings him to a room.  She wants Jack to take a human soul and forge it into an angel.  Wait, what?
Duma: What do you say?”
Me: “I SAY YOU ARE MAKING THIS UP AS YOU GO ALONG.”
Well, I don’t so much say it as shout it. Sorry about that outburst.  Angels came well before humans so I’m really looking forward to the explanation for how on earth a human soul can be made into an angel.  
Duma tells Jack that the room she’s brought him to is where his grandfather received prayers. She leaves him to make himself available to hear prayers.  
Jack sits on the throne and the more I see the throne, I can’t help but wonder if Dean is going to end up on that throne running heaven and Sam’s going to end up on the dark throne running hell.  I’m usually wrong, but I’ve just always got that feeling, from the speech Chuck gave once to Dean, “You, Sam, others that are the chosen, will have to find a way.  It’s why I saved you years ago.  You’re the firewall between light and darkness.”  Anyone that knows IT, knows there’s always 2 firewalls at either side of a connection.  Sam would be the firewall for Darkness (Hell), Dean would be the firewall for Light (Heaven) and the earth in between would be safe from both (because angel or demon, they are all dicks). Hippychick does meta... badly so we quickly move on!
Jack sits on the throne and hears many thoughts at once, until one voice comes through louder than others.  We switch to that voice, which is a woman delivering a prayer to a congregation. She tells them that “Pastor Aimes is coming by to discuss The Book of Samuel.”  Everyone seems very happy with that, so it’s obviously a group of Sam fans.  Jack flaps in and is invited to join them. Jack introduces himself and he’s ditched the name “Winchester.” He’s just “Jack”.  He asks them if they meant it when they said they wanted to go to heaven. They nod enthusiastically.  He asks if they wouldn’t mind becoming angels. Again, everyone is all on board the angel train.  The leader saying, “that would be a dream.”  Jack says it doesn’t have to be a dream, and shows his powers, and he’s his father’s son, because we get a lightning display outside the church and then Jack glows golden, his wings appearing as a shadow on the wall behind, before returning to normal.  He asks them to come with him to heaven.  
Pastor Aimes arrives.  Jack says he’s taking his friends to become angels, and would Pastor like to join them.  Pastor Aimes – who unfortunately for him missed Jack’s display of powers - is dismissive (while at the same time wondering why the audience and leader are in a trance).  Jack kills Pastor Aimes by having him be eaten by worms which is a bible reference to King Herod. Anyway, it’s a gruesome death.  Jack smiles because he’s doing such a good job and Sam and Dean will be so pleased with him.  He leaves with the congregation.
Oh wait, the pastor’s not actually dead, he’s in hospital, all bandaged up, so Sam and Dean - and of course Castiel because Chuck forbid they do what they used to do on their own any more without him being forced into every scene to avoid the meltdowns from his fanbase – pose as FBI and ask him what happened.  He tells them the congregation were taken to heaven to become angels.  They both look at Castiel who looks a little uncomfortable. Sam shows a photo of Jack and Pastor Aimes confirms that was who he saw. He explains that Jack waived his hand and cuts opened up and worms crawled out. He tells them that “he (Jack) said he was carrying out heaven’s orders and that I wasn’t a believer.”
Dean: Well… feel better.
Oh Dean.  Empathy!
They go outside the room to talk and Castiel quotes again from the bible.
Sam (surprised): So…this is another bible thing?
Seriously?  Seriously Dabb?  In your penultimate episode, you have Sam fucking Winchester look dumber than a bunch of rocks that he’s not already made that connection himself?      
Dean wonders what the hell is going on (probably with the writing for both he and his brother in this episode so far) and walks away.  
What the hell do you mean what the hell is going on? This case is probably the easiest you’ve ever worked on.  Jack has been misguided by heaven into carrying out their work.  Duh!
Sam is the last to leave and we see that the worms are still coming out of Pastor Aimes, and that’s a horrible death.  REMEMBER THIS DEATH FOR LATER!
Dean and Sam are arguing back at the bunker and whatever other issues I have with this episode, it certainly isn’t the scenes Jared and Jensen are in.  They once again show why I even continue to watch this show which is why this scene is in it’s entirety.
Dean: I didn’t want it to come to this either, but I know that that kid’s head is not right, and now that heaven has its hooks in him, we don’t have a choice.
Sam: Come to what?  What are you talking about?
Dean: Stopping Jack once and for all
Sam: Okay, fine, say I agree (said very much in a way that I don’t agree), Dean he can’t be killed.”
Dean: No, but he can be contained.  
He opens the door to a room in the bunker and Sam walks in behind him asking, “How are we supposed to do that?”
Oh Sam, as I said, dumber than a bunch of rocks this episode, I really, really feel for you. You are capable of making these connections, but have just been slapped with the dumb stick.
Sam looks at the room for the first time and sees a tarpaulin over something that can only be…
Sam and Dean are standing across from each other. Dean pulls off the tarpaulin to reveal the ma’lak box.  “With this.”
Sam: Are we seriously talking about locking Jack in this?
Dean: No, we’re seriously talking about not having a choice, we can’t kill him, okay, and this is warded to lock down an archangel.
Sam: Yeah… so… so what… we…we just… force him inside (Sam’s very uncomfortable right now).
Dean: No, no, he goes in here, it’s gotta be his choice.
Sam (stating the obvious): He’s never going to go along with that!
Dean: Maybe…
Me: Dean don’t do this, please do not do this, asking him to lie to Jack will destroy Sam.  You know how he feels about this.
Dean: But he might, he might if he only has to stay in here long enough to finish the spell to fix his soul.
Dean’s turned away from Sam for this next bit so Sam can’t see his face, but we can.
Sam: The spell?... What spell?  There is no spell!
Dean: We know that.
Sam (sighs): So, you want to lie to him.
Dean: No, but I want zeppelin to get back together (I think that’s what he said?), but what I need, what we need, is to stop Jack.  Big difference, but here’s the deal, we’ve both got to sign off on it. This might be our only shot and if he even catches a whiff that this is a scam, he’s off in the wind.”
Sam: Exactly, but how do you think he’s not going to know something’s up?
Dean: Because you’re going to be so damn sincere.
Sam: Me?  Why me?
Dean: Because you’ve always been in his corner, you’re his go to guy.  Sam, if you reach out, he’ll come.  If I do it, after what happened to mom, I could lose him.  (Sam looks away).  I will lose him.
Sam closes his eyes, he’s really not happy. But as I mentioned right at the start, regardless of what they are planning or what Dean is asking Sam to do, this is a fantastic scene between Jared and Jensen and the best thing about the episode so far.  Are we surprised?  
We see someone that looks to be homeless, warming themselves by a fire in a garbage can.  Turns out that he’s an angel near the sandpit portal and looks to be guarding it – presumably guarding it again since they now have Jack and don’t want Castiel to get anywhere near him.  Castiel demands the portal to be opened. And this is what I don’t understand – who let Castiel in to heaven earlier in the episode?  He can’t get in without the portal being opened and Duma would have told people not to open it for him, so how did he get in?   They just change it as and when they either need him to enter or not, it’s frustrating.  Anyway, the random angel tells him that heaven is closed.  Castiel says no, he was just there.
Random angel: I’m sorry, I said that wrong, Heaven is closed to you.
Angel fight!
Or not, as we switch to Jack in heaven with the people he abducted earlier.  He’s bringing them out of their trance one by one.  Me: Isn’t there a faster way that could maybe have freed up 5 minutes for something else?  No?  Okay then.
The random angel appears in the throne room, he’s tossed aside to reveal... Castiel behind him.  
Duma: Castiel! Good news… I found Jack
Puppy!Jack: Cass, look, I’m making angels!!
Castiel: Yes, you, umm… Duma, a word!...  Now!
Badass!Castiel alert.  Love him.  
Back at the bunker, Sam tells Dean he doesn’t think the plan is going to work. (translation for non Sam fans or people in denial: he really doesn’t want to do this plan)  
Dean: One way to find out
Not getting out of it, Sam prays to Jack, who we switch view to, and Jack is hearing Sam’s prayer. “Jack… I hope you can hear this… bad things happened but we’re family, we’re your family, and bad things happen in families… we want to talk with you, that’s how we can all get through this, that’s how we can all move forward.” (I think that’s a record, 3 family references in a single sentence - go Dabb!)
Back in heaven, Castiel accuses Duma of using Jack to solidify her hold on heaven.  That she’s “establishing a reign of terror… stripping heaven of its mercy”. Duma: “Well, Heaven never really had any mercy Castiel, you know that.”  She tells him that she’s saving Heaven, she’s saving our kind (angels) and she is saving the world.  God complex, (Season 6 and 8 or 10?)  Zzzzzzzzzz
Sam’s still praying: “Jack, we want, we need, to see you, our mother would want it, your mother would want it…”
My mom voice: Sam “whatever your middle name is” Winchester!  You did not just bring Jack’s mother into this mess!
Duma and Castiel are still talking, thankfully not for long, back with Sam: “Jack, we just want things to be the way they were, are you hearing this?”
Jack says he is.
Castiel says to Duma that he’s getting Jack out of here.  Duma stops him saying she’ll end Ma and Pa Winchester’s special heaven if he does anything.
She doesn’t get a chance to do the Thanos snap because Castiel ends her with an angel blade. Yes! Where have you been hiding?  Hmm?  I’m so done with Castiel trying to live and work and act like a human crap, he’s a fucking powerful angel and I hate what the show and fandom have reduced him to, this poor, little wooby that’s been reduced to human problems. He isn’t anything of the sort, which is why his story ended long ago.  Anyway, kicking my stuck record player once again, Badass!Castiel (which is the only Castiel this blog accepts) goes to find Jack.
Back at the bunker, Jack has not appeared, Sam says, “I guess he didn’t hear it.”  (is there a little relief in that statement Sam, hmmm).
A flap of wings though announces Jack’s appearance and he says, “I heard, and I was so glad.  I didn’t think I’d ever see you again.”  He turns to Dean who looks like he wants to rip Jack’s head off, “I’ve been working with the angels to purify the world, oh and making angels…”
Okay, I’m going to kudos this one because I’m actually feeling for Jack here, he’s like a literal child, and he feels he’s done good (because Duma told him he was, and it would make Sam and Dean happy).  And all he wants is to make Sam and Dean proud of him for doing good and we’re meant to feel bad about what Sam and Dean are contemplating doing.  It’s horrible, this is a child they are going to put into a tiny, dark box and lock the door on. We’re supposed to stop and think about that.  But from Sam and Dean’s perspective, Jack isn’t just a child, he’s the most powerful being on the planet and he’s killing innocent people because he’s completely malleable to influence, he’s killing people because he doesn’t know any better. He’s killing people because he has a temper and can’t control it.  And they’ve got no idea how else to stop him, other than the box.  
Dean imo isn’t thinking straight, and not just from grief from Jack killing his mother.  Even before Mary died. Dean’s been affected by the things Michael did while wearing Dean’s body and using Dean’s hands for murder and we haven’t seen that come out yet, but from Dean’s perspective, it’s always been about eliminate the monster, which in his opinion, Jack has turned into and needs to be dealt with like any other monster.  
And Sam, as I’ve mentioned in a separate post, he’s going along with Dean because he doesn’t want to let his brother down again. He doesn’t want to make the wrong choice like he did with Ruby.  He’s never going to let his brother down again by choosing someone over Dean (Sam’s view of things, not mine), so his only choice is to trust Dean. He’s also struggling with decisions he’s made this season that he feels has led to the deaths of several people (unfairly imo), but it’s heavily on his mind and he doesn’t trust his judgement anymore so he’s looking to someone else to call the shots, unfortunately, that someone else is equally broken and equally not capable of calling the shots.  And screw anyone that is hating these boys right now because you haven’t been watching the season which has led up to this!
Kudos to Jensen, Jared and Alex as this is a great scene between the three of them.  Alex is so child-like, Jensen is barely containing his rage and Jared is alternating between being scared of Jack and really not being happy about what they are doing. Fan fiction or not, the show has portrayed that Sam feels a father/son relationship with Jack (moreso than Dean I would strongly argue).  I’m both an Aunt and a mother and I can say that although I love my nieces and nephew, it absolutely does not compare to a parent/child bond. Putting this scene in it’s entirety as it’s that good.
Jack: Yeah, I make angels… (Dean fake smiles), but, I really missed you guys.
Dean: Yeah, us too, right Sammy…
What I love about this scene is that during it, Sam got up silently and had been walking around the back of Dean.  Dean had his eyes on Jack the whole time, but he still knew that Sam had moved from the table and where he is now.
Dean: …Tell Jack how we want to clear things up, you know, between us
Sam looks like he’s walking up to the gallows as he’s moving closer to Jack. This is horrible to watch, but hey, for the first time in a few episodes, it’s actually great television no matter how painful!
Jack: I know, I know things have been bad, and… and if it helps, I regret it.
Now, since this was said in a similar tone to “I regret having that fifth cookie”, it’s not going down all that well with Sam and Dean so Sam and Dean just look at him and he continues, “The… accident.”
Sam (looks briefly back at Dean): The… accident?
Jack: What happened to Mary… she kept talking about my soul, that I didn’t have a soul, and she kept pushing…
Dean: Oh… so, she made you do it
Jack: No, it was me but, I didn’t want this “no soul thing” to become an issue between us. (Sam looks back at Dean who is trying very, very hard, not to react). I guess I… snapped.  Before I knew it, it was all over.
Dean: It… being the accident
Jack (steps forward): I wish it didn’t happen
Dean: yeah, Jack, so do we, but… we understand, and we forgive you, you know for the uh… accident.
Sam (moving closer to Jack and he’s close to losing it): That’s what you want, right Jack, I mean you’d, you’d like that?
Jack: I’d like for things to go back to the way they were.  (He sighs and smiles), I knew you’d understand.
Dean: So, if we told you that we were close to being able to fix your soul, we just need to keep you safe, until everything is ready… you, you’d be okay with that?
Jack: Safe?  What do you mean? 
Dean: Well, you could hurt other people, have another… accident.
Jack: Oh
Sam: We want to keep you safe Jack, that also means we have to… keep you safe from yourself (Sam reaches out and tentatively puts a hand on Jack’s shoulder), you know just so that nobody gets hurt, just until we get you better.
Jack looks at the hand on his shoulder and then at Sam and Dean and we (and likely they) are not sure if he’s going to have another “accident”, but he doesn’t, and they lead the lamb to the room with the box in it.  Dean tells Jack that the best feature of the box is that it’s warded so keeps Jack’s powers below “the meltdown level.” Sam does that enthusiastic parent thing where they try to make a bad thing sound good, “Yeah, so you can’t hurt anyone, and nobody can hurt you!” (doesn’t that sound wonderful Jack?!)
Jack says he understands, but I’m not sure he really does.  He goes into the box anyway.  He asks Sam how long before he can come out.  Sam answers, “not too long, (he looks nervously at Dean then back at Jack), Jack, we got this.” (Narrators voice: Sam does not have this, he’s close to breaking point).
Everybody is smiling (or grimacing) and Jack says, “Okay” and lies down in the box which Dean quickly closes and locks.  Sam closes his eyes and walks out. He can’t handle it.
Jack’s in the box and he’s calling for Sam and Dean and I can’t.  Sam and Dean are outside the room and they can hear him and it’s just awful. And it’s the panic room all over again, with a lot less space.  Fuck Dabb for this, seriously.  
Sam and Dean are finally drinking from the bottle of scotch mentioned earlier. I get an empty glass and join them because really, did we really just do this?   Sam asks Dean what they do now. “Just go on with Jack locked up in there forever?”
Dean: We have to
Sam: I don’t know if I can do that.
For those of you that think Sam’s went along with this plan without having the intention of finding some way to help Jack get out then I feel sorry for you, you are missing out on a great character. Sam will absolutely be spending hours upon hours not sleeping to do research to get Jack out of the box, while working on Dean to accept getting Jack out of the box (so he’s not seen to “betray” his brother again which Sam as I mentioned earlier will not do).  And similarly with Dean, he’s broken and not functioning and shouldn’t be allowed to make decisions right now, but Sam doesn’t trust himself, so what can you do? 
Dean doesn’t answer that, just appreciates the whisky Ketch left.
Sam: you know I never thought it would end like this, with Jack.
Dean: Sammy, we knew from the beginning it was a long shot with him.
Sam: Yeah, but long shots are kind of our thing
Back to the coffin and Jack’s still calling for them, “Guys, I don’t think I like this.”
You know what Jack, neither do I.
Hallucifer is with him, telling him he got played. Jack tells him they said he should trust them.  Hallucifer tells him that trust is a two-way street, that if they had trusted him, they wouldn’t have locked him up.
Castiel is back, he updates that Jack had been manipulated into doing what he was doing by Heaven (well duh again!), That Duma had told Jack that by doing those things, it would please Sam and Dean.
Dean: Oh, so now it’s our fault
Castiel: I’m just saying it’s urgent that we find him and tell him
Sam: Cass, he’s here.
Castiel (eyes narrow): What?
Dean: He’s locked up, safe, he’s in the ma’lak box
Castiel: No!
Dean: And that’s where he’s going to stay
Sam and Castiel look at each other.
Hallucifer is still working away at Jack and it seems to be working.  He tells Jack there is no coming back from killing their mother, so the box is it for the rest of time. Jack gets pissed, his eyes glow and we see the box shaking… but it doesn’t break.
Castiel: Even after hearing what I said, you want to keep Jack sealed in a living death.
Dean: He agreed to it, because deep down, I think he knows it’s best
Castiel: No, you’re doing what Duma… you are manipulating him!
Back to the coffin, Jack turns to Hallucifer who says, “Bring it.”  Eyes glow, warding seals glow and Hallucifer laughs.
Sam: Cass…
Cass: What?  You just want to forget about him.
Dean: I wish I could forget about him, after what he did, and you know what he can do, this is our only play…
Loud banging noise is heard by all three, the bunker is shaking, emergency lighting switches to red, alarms blare, they run to the room with the box, with Castiel in the lead (but how does he even know which room Dean had the box in? – even Sam didn’t know).  
Anyway, as we look into the smoke, yellow eyes appear first then Jack moves forward.
Sam: Jack…
Wow, let the meltdown ensue in the tags!  
Last cliffhanger of the series next week, loads of meta already, I’m on Team: Dean will try to kill Jack, Sam will try to stop him, Chuck will appear to sort it all out and Castiel will be sacrificed.   My prediction for Season 15 is that Dean will be told to sort out Heaven and Sam to get a grip on hell. And I will be way wrong, but it’s fun guessing where all of this is going to end. 
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Hiya: If there's been conversation about Nick/Lucifer I've missed it, sorry. I can't figure out where they're going with him - there's a reason he's still around, surely, but so far his story seems to be rudderless. Sarah's little monologue suggests that Nick's Lucifer experience is significant going forward. What are your thoughts?
Hello! And sorry it took so long for me to reply to this, but I wanted to approach it from several directions and cover this as completely as possible, so I’m now fortified with cookies and caffeine, and will hopefully do as thorough a job as possible while also demonstrating that I am prepared to fend off any and all wank with this here big stick *waves large stick in the air*. :P
I don’t normally like to use the production side of things to justify the narrative, but in this particular case, I think it’s CRUCIAL to keep in mind when considering anything having to do with Nick. Here’s a few “production specific” bullet points to bear in mind:
Eugenie really enjoys writing this specific character, for whatever twisted reason.
therefore I personally like to imagine the rest of the production staff roll their eyes and let her have him to play with over in a corner, which interestingly enough keeps her from mucking about with the characters we all actually care about
J2 specifically asked to have more time off. That’s why we have a 20 episode season this year (and I think we would’ve had an even shorter season if wayward had been picked up, but their compromise to sign on for even 20 episodes was explicitly to get more time off to spend with their families). Have you wondered also why there’s been a lot more scenes that ONLY had Sam or Dean in them? Why they’ve been separated for a lot of the season? Because one of them has been having nice days off with their family while the other has been filming. In order to have episodes where they’re together, the compromise is that some of the focus go to other characters so they can both have time off still... and sadly, Nick fits the bill for “available for scenes alone.”
Enter cries of “BUT WHAT ABOUT CAS! WHAT ABOUT MARY OR THE WAYWARDS?! WHY NICK?!”
*points everyone back to that first bullet point*
So now that some of that real-world nonsense is out of the way, I really do think that they’ve been actively making the most of this objectively terrible character that most of us have utterly failed to connect to in any way, because he is just so damn terrible.
I personally LOVED Davy’s treatment of him last week, and how Nick’s own story had been paralleled to Sam’s since the beginning of the season. Not for Nick’s sake, but FOR SAM’S.
I wrote some about that here:
http://mittensmorgul.tumblr.com/post/182308756300/love-that-your-nick-tag-says-possibly-murderous
But this week’s episode goes several steps beyond that. Since 5.01, Nick’s entire deal with Lucifer had been predicated on his desire to be reunited with his murdered family. He’d been dismally living in the house where they’d been murdered, with his child’s crib still sitting there, drinking himself to sleep at night, unable to move on past their deaths. It was implied in s14 that he’d even been a suspect in their murders, but he was cleared after having the alibi that he’d been out drinking while they were killed.
And yet, when he thinks back to why he said Yes to Lucifer, he doesn’t remember the promise to be reunited with his wife and son, he remembers Lucifer telling him he was special and chosen. Which I think is really telling:
NICK: I just don’t know what kind of pain would make me allow Lucifer to possess me.CAS: It was your family.NICK: My family? Sarah and Teddy?[CAS nods.]NICK, gasping: No. [NICK flashes back to Sympathy for the Devil (5.01). We see these scenes along with current NICK as he remembers]SARAH/LUCIFER, in flashback: It’s you, Nick. You’re special. You’re chosen. Nick, I need you to say “yes”.NICK, in flashback: Then yes.NICK, now: Oh my god. Who could do that? Who could do that?
Because even his reason for saying yes was this sort of personal aggrandizement of being “special” and “chosen,” even if he’d always framed it as being this revenge quest on behalf of his murdered family. That’s what Sam had been sympathizing with, at any rate-- the fact that they’d both been manipulated into saying yes, and both had these familial/loved ones murdered to force them into participating in this awful cosmic game. But personal grandiosity had NEVER been one of Sam’s motivations for saying yes. He’d felt personally BETRAYED when Lucifer revealed the extent to which his entire life had been nudged into place by demons, you know? He HATED the fact he’d been “chosen” and felt it was more of a curse than something special.
But not Nick. He may have said he wanted justice for his wife and son, but the truth kept coming out of him throughout s14:
He beat his neighbor to death in the exact manner his family was killed, because the neighbor told police he’d seen someone at Nick’s house, and then recanted his statement.
because what he’d seen was a POLICE OFFICER entering and then leaving the house, and he was not prepared to testify against a cop
Nick kills Arty’s priest for refusing to divulge what Arte confessed to him about the man he saw, but learns about the cop from a reporter he interviewed later
Nick then tracks down the retired officer, who tells him he was possessed by the demon Abraxis and had no memory of the murders. The man had been used just as badly as Nick himself, and yet Nick killed him ANYWAY even though he’d been tormented about his part in all of this for more than a decade.
After killing the cop, Nick confesses that he said he just wanted revenge, but that it was a lie, and he liked being evil this way
He pleads with Lucifer to come back to him
He then goes on a rampage to find Abraxas, to ask him (ostensibly) who ordered him to kill his wife. He kills his way through other demons until he discovers where Abraxas is, in a puzzle box trapped by Mary Winchester.
And this is where everything falls apart for him
Once he learns that Lucifer ordered his family killed-- not because he was special, but because he was convenient-- he had one final chance to repent for what he’d done in the name of vengeance. And he failed to take it.
Instead of accepting that all of this was a horrific abuse, and that this was the most justice he or his loved ones could possibly get, and trying to make peace with himself and try to do the best he can with what he now has (including the support of the Winchesters, who are arguably the people on the planet most inclined to sympathize with what Nick has been through), he rejects ALL of that.
He prays to Lucifer, begging for answers that he technically already has. But he just cannot let go of it. It ceased being about justice for his wife and son a long, long time ago. It’s only about him, now.
He’s mad at Lucifer for hurting HIM. He’s mad at the fact his wife and son were murdered, not because it wasn’t fair to THEM, but because they were taken away from HIM. Which is all proven out in how he treats the ghost of his wife in 14.12.
He returns to his home, where he has to break in. He doesn’t have a key anymore, and still, the house is sitting empty and abandoned, where nobody else has wanted to live since. Compare that to the Winchester family house in 1.09. Despite the tragedy there, it’s still inhabited. Life goes on there, and after 1.09, when the ghosts of its past are finally laid to rest, it has a chance for a happy family to live and thrive there again. Nick’s place is just stagnant with the ghost of his dead wife trapped there, wearing a nightgown so similar to Mary Winchester’s.
I thought it was strange that this incarnation of Sarah’s actual ghost had long hair, while the vision of Sarah that Lucifer used in 5.01 to woo Nick in the first place had short hair, and I think it was intentional... making her look like the sad, dark version of Mary Winchester. This was Sarah’s big moment, her chance to finally be released from the misery of being trapped in that house as a ghost... and she failed, because Nick failed HER on every level.
Sarah: My unfinished business isn't just about how I died, Nick. It's you. I was here that night. I saw what he did to you. I... You chose Lucifer. You wanted him. You... You still do.Nick: He chose me, okay.Sarah: You didn't come here to find peace. You came here to find him in the place you became one with him.Nick: No.Sarah: Then show me I'm wrong. Reject Lucifer right now. If you do, I can leave. I can find peace. Reject him, Nick. Please. Please!Nick: I-I can't. I'm sorry.Sarah: You can't. Because you are him. You doomed me to stay in this place forever. You've doomed yourself.
Nick is flim-flam-- on a meta level, on a personal level, on every level. He’d never been seeking her, which is why he bought into Lucifer’s deal. He wanted to be special, and up to the point Lucifer came to him, he’d only felt worthless. That’s what made him useful to Lucifer. He could buy into his own lie that it was about seeing his wife again. He would go along quietly.
This was his one last chance at an easy redemption, and he refused to do it. When faced with the ONE THING he always said he wanted, he turned away, because he’d never wanted it in the first place.
Granted, all of this serves as The Darkest Possible Mirror to the Winchester family, but I think it’s still useful to keep this in mind with what the 300th will be giving us next week. Sam and Dean have been struggling with what happened to their family, and how it resulted in their entire lives lived as a revenge quest and how the entire universe has demanded their involvement in cosmic affairs ever since. And now, they’re also looking for a bit of catharsis. And we have a dark mirror set up to shine an interesting light on that now...
Granted, it makes it really difficult to engage with Nick’s storyline, considering how little interest any of us have in him as a character, compounded by the fact that the character himself is entirely devoid of anything resembling something we can have sympathy for. And honestly, we never cared about him in the first place, and it just feels like beating a dead horse to keep dragging Mark P.’s face up on screen year after year just to demonstrate how irredeemable he is, but *heavy sigh* they do seem to be making the most of these facts despite that.
Honestly, they can do better. Pick a different character for us to spend a bit more time with. I’d love to see more Cas, and more Cas interacting with Sam and Dean individually, or more Mary, or more Jody and Donna and the girls, but this is what we have. So I’ll continue to wish they’d just put him out of our misery and off him once and for all, but sadly I think we’re stuck with him for at least the rest of the season...
There’s several ways I can personally think of that he could become more useful down the line, like the crack spec I wrote last week:
http://mittensmorgul.tumblr.com/post/182454196470/solution-1-put-mike-into-nick-2-put-nick-in-the
but maybe a lil less... cracky... if they do something along those lines in canon...
Just how desperate is Nick to feel special again? To feel chosen? Would he take his second choice (Michael over Lucifer), and Dean’s sloppy seconds? How would that even work? What would they do? It may or may not be something in the future, but it’s one theory that’s giving me hope that he has some actual purpose to the narrative, since he’s proven himself absolutely irredeemable at this point. The only way he’s gonna earn redemption at this point is via self-sacrifice. Not even Lucifer could pull that one off... I don’t really have high hopes for Nick...
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5 years of Supernatural - How it changed my life
I was reading the Family Don’t End With Blood book, and I remembered that this week will be 5 years since I started watching SPN. Yes, I remember the day, it was July 15th, 2012. 
I thought that to celebrate this mark, I’d write my own story about how Supernatural has changed my life, inspired by the book. It probably will be long so I understand if you skip it lol.
I was looking for a new show to watch, I was currently following a handful of shows but I wanted something else. I knew about Supernatural because I was already on Tumblr even though I had only a personal blog where I reblogged random stuff and had like 100 followers or less. I saw gifsets from the show here and there, and I remember thinking “this show must be cool. It looks like these brotjhers have a nice bond”. Also, I have been a fan of Jared Padalecki ever since 2004 and I saw him in New York Minute, so it was another reason to try it. To sum it up, I watched 7 seasons (the show had only 7 seasons back then) in one month, and by the end of it I was addicted. 
Lemme just say something before I continue. I am that kind of person who becomes obsessed with something only to not give a single shit about it one month later. So I thought that what was gonna happen with SPN as well, I’d fall in love with it but it was gonna go away soon like everything that came before. But that wasn’t what happened. 
I got more and more in love with the show and those boys, tjhe story of those brothers. And if I already adored Jared, I started loving him even more, at the same time I got to know who was that gorgeous Jensen Ackles. I learned how special the relationship between them in real life was as well. My tumblr slowly became almost 100% Supernatural, and then one day I saw a blog made to spread the word that Jensen hated Jared. I got so fucking mad reading that, it was the turning point for me. That same day I created a new Tumblr, and the url was j2loveeachother. I wanted to show how the boys actually loved each other very much. I was into the show for about 4 months by then, and I already knew. And little did I know how the decision of making this Tumblr would change so much in my life.  
When I entered this place, this fandom, with this blog I felt instantly at home, like I belonged here. I have a lot of internet friends, I made some good friends back in 2008 because we were all fans of an American Idol winner, and we’re still friends to this day, almost 10 years later. So I enjoy meeting people online even though it sucks that most of the times we’re far away. 
In the beginning of 2013, a couple of months after making the blog, I was put in the same list as another SPN blog by one of my mutuals, as people who loved Sam. I followed that blog and me and the girl started messaging each other here on Tumblr. That was Karri. in about 10 days we “got married” on tumblr and became “wifeys”, which we still are today. We became close friends, the kind who talk almost everyday about things that go beyond the fandom. Other people were added to the equation and god I met so many amazing people. Some of them are long gone and that makes me sad not knowing what happened to them since they left their blogs behind. But new ones arrived and that’s the beauty of it. How many amazing people I met here, but it was sad that everyone was waaay too distant, specially since I live in Brazil and most people are in the US (Karri in California). I remember thinking, will we ever meet someday?
There was also the matter of going to a convention. I remember vividly one day, after Vegascon 2013, one of my mutuals posted a beautiful J2 op she took with them. I was starting to get familiar with conventions, and I remember looking at that pic and thinking “that is so fucking amazing, but I’ll never ever have that.” The cons were in the US and I am thousands of kilometers away, so no there was no way. And that made me so sad, because I really wanted to go, I wanted to be able to have that experience. I wanted to tell Jared how much I love him, how much he means to me, I wanted to be able to meet him face to face and also Jensen, it was so unfair that I wasn’t able to go if I loved the show and them so fucking much. 
In october of 2013, I had a dream. It was like one day after Chicon, a lot of tumblr girls had gone there, and I dreamed that Karri and I were there, and it was pretty amazing. I woke up feeling sad because it wasn’t real, and that night I told Karri this on Skype. I don’t know exactly how it started, but eventually we were like “what if we went to Chicon 2014?” I was gonna start working a couple months after that, I would have some money to go. She hasn’t been to any cons by then as well, so it would be the first time to both of us. We got excited with the prospect, we had one year to make that happen, to be at Chicon in october of 2014. She wanted to put a counter on our blogs right away but I didn’t want to jinx it, we literally had nothing. She did it anyway. I remember going to bed like “that’s almost impossible, I don’t think we’ll be able to pull it off.”
On October 22th of 2014, almost one year after that conversation, I boarded on a plane from São Paulo to Chicago for my first SPN convention. Remember how I wondered if I was ever gonna meet Karri?
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remember how I thought, about one and a half year earlier, how I’d never have gorgeous J2 op like that one ever, and how unfair it was?
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going to Chicon 2014 was so incredibly important to me for many reasons. I did something I thought I wasn’t gonna be able to, I set up a plan and step by step, I conquered it. I finally attended a SPN convention, which was even more amazing than I imagined. I told Jared in person how much I love him, I got to hug these two man and take this amazing picture, I couldn’t hold back my tears when I found my op among all the others and saw how perfect it was. I finally met Karri in person, which I thought was too hard and we had an amazing time together. I visited Chicago, which was one of my 3 dream cities. 
Leaving Illinois was hard. When Karri and I were on the train from Chicago to Rosemont on our last day, to catch our flights on a few hours, I lay my head on her shoulder and cried looking outside the window. I didn’t even know when I’d see her again and I was so incredibly sad it was all coming to an end. I arrived back home exactly one year after the conversation Karri and I had. I remember taking the lanyard out of my suitcase and crying so much. We had done it, and it was too incredible to even put into words. 
I thought that was going to be my only con. But later that year I knew that wouldn’t be possible. On New Year of 2015, I told Karri I wanted to attend a con in 2016, and she needed to come with me. We debated a lot where we should go, and I was convinced to go to a city I never imagined visiting, by two friends who I also wanted to meet. So in August of 2016, I boarded another plane to Minneapolis, to attend Minncon 2016. and if at Chicon Karri and I were pretty much by ourselves, at Minncon I met so many other amazing people. People who live across the world and who I would never have met if it wasn’t for this show.
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My dream op came true and Jared gave me a piggyback ride:
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And I also got to witness firsthand how incredibly human and caring this man is. It was the first time I saw Jared after AKF and all that happened to him in 2015, and this time I went to get his autograph crying bc I was too overwhelmed by all of this, by him, and also because I didnt know if I’d ever see him again. He entwined his fingers with mine and squeezed my hand, winking at me. My heart melted.
I had a fucking amazing time in Minneapolis. Not only because of the con, also for the people I was there with. On our last night, after the con was over, me and the girls went to the pub right next to our hotel to eat and talk, there was so much laughter and happiness. I knew how much I would miss that while I was still there. 
To me, Minncon would be my last con. But a few days after the con, I was still in the US, in NYC in vacation, and Karri began convincing me to go to New Orleans in 2017 for another con, since Heather and some other girls were going to. And how could I say no? How can I stay behind and watch my fav people have fun at a con without me? So in a little more than 3 months, on Oct. 23rd, I’m getting on a plane to New Orleans, to experience all of this again for the third time. 
Before I went to Chicon, i was afraid to tell people why I was going to Chicago, I was afraid they’d say it was stupid, a waste of money. But I got so much support it surprised me. Even my boss encouraged me to go when I asked for some days off, I never hid from her where I was going. She started watching SPN this year because of me and now she wants to go too. I know some people may think it’s unecessary to spend all this money to go to conventions for a tv show, specially 3 times when I could have gone to just one, but I don’t care. It’s what makes me happy, I get to spend an amazing time with amazing people this show brought me. And I can’t wait to spend even more amazing moments this year. Because of Supernatural, I got to meet people I would never meet otherwise, and I got to visit places I probably wouldn’t if it wasn’t for the show. Supernatural gave me so much, it literally changed the course of my life. 
I also discovered a new talent, I found out I can write stories, after reading so many J2 fanfics I tried to write my own fics, supported by my awesome friends, and now I can write a story that has over 100k words. Not only that, I can write all of that in english. I’m a native portuguese speaker. Supernatural has improved my english skills as well. 
I don’t have a sad story to tell, Supernatural didn’t save my life or ended my depression. Thankfully I don’t have those problems. But Supernatural changed my life. Literally. It changed many events that happened after |I started watching it. It introduced me to a whole new world. I have friends on different parts of the world because of it, and now I know it’s not impossible to meet them. Saying goodbye to them is so hard, I have cried my eyes out at airports twice, but as I was hugging Karri goodbye in Minneapolis, we realized it wasn’t the last time we’d see each other. It might take some time, but we can do it. The world is big but with effort, we can get anywhere. So many good memories from the past 5 years happened because of Supernatural, and today I can’t imagine how my life was before that. I made friends, I visited new places, I met my favorite actor in the whole world. All because I decided to watch this show I kept seeing on Tumblr. Even long after the show ends and we’re no longer here, the impact it had on me will remain. I know these friendships will stay, as well as the amazing memories I’ll carry throughout my life. I hope I can tell my kids someday if I have them, how much this simple tv show changed me. And I’m gonna encourage them to go after what they love, like my mom did to me when I first told her, afraid as fuck, that I wanted to go to Chicago (a ten hour flight) *just* for a supernatural convention. And she was like “go for it”. Little did I know a small decision on July 15th of 2012 would have such a huge impact in my life.
Thank you Supernatural for the road so far. And for the road yet to come. 
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Supernatural Survey
1. What season did you start watching Supernatural?  I started watching July 3rd, 2016. I started watching from the pilot and finished the finale of s10 on August 19th (11 wasn’t available to view yet). I only know the dates because I made a Facebook post the day I started (I think it said “Amanda is watching supernatural season 1 - I think I may have made a terrible mistake …”) and one of my first Tumblr posts marking the day I finished. 12 was the first season I watched live.
2. Who was the first character you fell in love with?  I think it was Dean by about ten minutes or something. I’m pretty sure Dean’s cocky “Easy Tiger,” made me say “Oh, no,” shortly before whatever Sam said or did that made me say, “Yeeeah, I’m in trouble.”
3. Who was a character that you hated at first but grew to love?  Um, don’t hate me. Kevin? My first watch-through I found him incredibly whiny and ungrateful for a while. Then he started growing on me and I would call him ‘Kevin’ when he was annoying me and ‘Tran’ when I was proud of him. The second time around, I was able to be much more sympathetic.
4. Which character would you most want to be in a long-term relationship with?  This is hard. My answer surprised me because it might (gun to my head) be Sam. I always thought I found Dean *slightly* more attractive (again, gun to my head). And character-wise I love them equally. I guess I just think Sam and I would work better together in a long-term relationship.
5. If you could go on just one date with one character, which one would you choose?  Since I picked Sam for the other, can I say Dean?
6. What would you do on the date? Lol idk, see an old movie at a drive-in theatre? Something tells me Dean would enjoy the classic combination. I’d love whatever. I’d want him to be able to relax and be himself - see that ‘little kid’ side we get a glimpse of every so often. Maybe I could find some way to let him know he’s so much more than just his good looks?
7. Which character would you most want to be like?  Donna? I love her so much. I guess I see myself in her, but she’s *more so* idk. Her sweetness. Her bubbly personality. She’s not afraid to get personal. She’s been hurt, but she doesn’t let it make her hide who she is. She’s got a strength that usually takes people by surprise because she’s so nice, they think she must be soft. She likes doughnuts … She told Dean freaking Winchester to stuff it.
8. Which character would you most like to see brought back from the dead? If you’d have asked me this before the finale I’d have said Gabe. I don’t think bringing him back would cheapen his death (or continue to cheapen deaths on the show in general) because we were never sure whether to believe if he’d really died anyway. After the tangled mess of the finale (I’m including Eileen in this) I’m really not sure how to answer.
9. Which character would you most like to punch?  If by punch you mean repeatedly before handing her over to Sam to finish off and Sam is under some spell that allows him to give her the kind of death she deserves but he doesn’t have to feel too bad about it afterwards (idk a justice spell? That could be a real thing)- Toni freaking Bevel. That woman is a psychotic monster. I loathe her. Story time, 12x1 was the first episode I watched live. So I had to make myself be super quiet because I couldn’t rewind or rely on subtitles like I had been doing when the show would make me yell at the tv. The first commercial break I apparently yelled, “FREAKING BITCH!” so loud my mom heard me from upstairs. She thought it was hilarious. This was before the mind rape even happened.
10. Who is your absolute favorite character? Nope
11. Which “Big Bad” do you think was the worst? There are the villains I love, the villains I love to hate, and the villains I loathe. Spn has some of all three. Crowley is the scariest, I think, because he’s the most intelligent and devious and they keep forgetting he’s a bad guy, but I love him. Lucifer is probably the most evil, and most powerful, but I like him as a villain. Metatron was probably the one I hated the most (Toni couldn’t be called a big bad, I suppose, even though I hated her the most of all).
12. Which character are you most like?  It’s funny how many similarities I see in both Sam and Dean, but I think it’s prolly Donna. She’s more badass than I am, though :)
13. What death hit you the hardest?  The first time Sam died was hard because Jensen is too good at his job. When Dean died with the MOC Jared’s reaction gutted me. I knew they were coming back in those instances and what made it hard was witnessing the pain of the other. Bobby was the same in that I was sad to see him go, but they did him justice, I thought, and the hard part was seeing Sam and Dean go through that. Charlie’s was brutal. Charlie was probably the first time I’ve ever cried because someone died more than because the people left behind were sad. Not that the guys falling back and acting like they couldn’t bear to go in that room didn’t help sell it.
14. What season finale hit you the hardest?  Season 3, maybe? I don’t like hellhounds. I should; I typically love everything dog related, but hellhounds freak me out because of how much I don’t like to watch that scene. Then, Five was beautiful and so sad. I already mentioned about the season 2 and 9 finales.
15. What are your ten all-time favorite episodes?  Oh shoot! Um … Baby Regarding Dean Point of No Return It’s a Terrible Life Swan Song Two Minutes to Midnight In My Time of Dying Tall Tales Plush Jus in Bello These are just the first ten I thought of. I’m not sure if they’re my actual ten favorite, but they’ll do.
16. What’s been your favorite season? Oh, I don’t know. Um, maybe five? 
17. Who is your favorite angel? Besides Cas, I really liked Gabe, then Samandriel and Balthazar.
18. Who’s your favorite demon?   Ooh. Um Crowley obvi. I really loved Ruby as a character. I know there’s the pesky betrayal thing, but her banter with Dean is beautiful, she did keep Sam alive when Dean was gone, and I think in her twisted demon way, she really cared about him. Even if you believe everything before was an act (I could debate a couple points) the things she said after Lucifer’s cage was unlocked sounded like she really believed she, Sam, and Dean were going to be reconciled somehow and live happily ever after. I also liked Meg as a villain and reluctant ally.
19. Who’s your favorite evil character?  Besides the ones I’ve already mentioned above, I love Rowena (as far as villains I love) and Abaddon (as far as villains I love to hate). I also loved Dick because without him we wouldn’t have had all the amazing dick jokes (I have a very simple sense of humor, I won’t apologize)
20. So you have any supernatural ships? SamxSarah, SamxEileen. I always thought Dean and Bela would end up getting together, although it would have been mostly physical and wouldn’t have lasted long. I always wished Dean and Lisa could have made it work. I know, I know.
21. Who’s your favorite supporting actor?  The heck am I supposed to answer this?
22. What’s your favorite quote from the show?  Again, say what? I’ll give you a few. “Are you under the impression that family is supposed to make you feel good … They’re supposed to make you miserable! That’s why they’re family!” “Do I look like a ditchable prom date to you? … Family don’t end with blood boy.” “I am your flesh-and-blood brother … Believe in that … You gotta make it stone number one and build on it.”
23. If you could cast one famous actor in an episode of SPN, who would you chose?  lol Tom Hiddleston! Why not? Angel, demon, hunter, he could fill any of the above and nail it.
24. If you could write your own episode, what kind of creature would you like to see included?   I’d like to see a black dog or kelpie. That would be awesome.
25. Who’s your favorite girl that Dean’s hooked up with?  Lisa
26. Who’s your favorite girl that Sam’s hooked up with?  Jessica
27. What are some of your favorite convention moments?  When j2 played with the delay in the screen behind them to make it look like there were an infinite number of j2’s turning around. That’s funny and adorable. Um, when Sheppard got asked by the little girl about Crowley’s demon deal. When the crowd did the thing with the candles for Jared. When Jared or Jensen pretend they agreed to pay the person who asked the question.
28. If you were going to guest star (or be a recurring guest star) on SPN, how would you want your character described?  I basically wrote myself into an episode in devils’ trap. I mean I’m definitely cooler in the story than in rl, but my favorite is the respect and esteem Sam and Dean show when regular people (civilians) rise to the occasion when confronted with the supernatural. That’s the kind of character I’d like to play.
29. What do you hope to see in the next season?  Better writing. Continued character development. Monster of the week episodes.
30.-40. If you had to choose…
Bobby or John? (is this a real question?) Bobby
Bela or Ruby? Bela
Jess or Madison? Jess?
Jo or Lisa? I don’t like this question. I can’t decide. I’ve literally changed my mind 15 times and explaining my inner dialogue would take way too long.
Charlie or Kevin? Charlie
Balthazar or Ash? Ash
Cas or Crowley? Argh, I can’t choose.
Ben or Claire? Ben. Although I was disappointed with him in later episodes, he was so cool and non-whiny the first time we met him, and I do like and sympathize with Claire.
Jody or Donna? Both please :)
Sam or Dean? Nope. Can’t.
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