aka How much troll could a troll, troll troll, if a troll troll could troll troll.
Heâs a knowing troll, those are the worst kind. He think that by throwing insults people wonât notice that he never answered the question.Â
@russianspacegeckosexparty is a big ole ephebophile. And bless him for it. Iâm sure it kills him that he canât ship Sterek publicly, but with how obsessed he is with them, he should probably stop spending time calling the kettle black and more time jacking off to his Scott/Older white man fantasies.Â
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@camelotpark decided to block me, but I thought Iâd give him the courtesy of responding to his last post:
Saying Scott needed to learn  that lesson in that way is victim blaming.
Thatâs because you consider Scott to be the sole victim. You said yourself that words donât beget retaliation though Scott was retaliating in his own way when he said that to Derek. This isnât just an issue of a then b then c. This is a then b while c then d. Things are happening simultaneously and the answer isnât always as easy as âthey were mean to Scott so theyâre badâ.
This is what you did and you not understanding that is your problem, not mine.
You not understanding how to read a sentence outside of your narrow-minded view is your problem, no matter how much you try to make it mine.
Another Scott stan bites the dust upon realizing that the only thing holding up their fave is their delusions.
I know that you need to justify me as a monster in your mind so you can block me and think youâre in the right. But what you did was completely create a problem and then set about the task of solving it in the most disrespectful and insulting way possible just so you could preserve the sanctity of Scott McCall.Â
I hope you take time to think about what that really says about you and the friends you keep.
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You arenât touching Stiles/Gerard,because...
Because I said Iâm not touching it and you donât know how I feel about Gerard and Stiles and again it has nothing to do with this conversation.Â
And again, I didnât bring up Derek and Stiles, your friend did, and I didnât make any comparisons and nothing blew up in my face. I responded to his inaccurate claim and I was right. You canât make things up when the proof is literally right there.Â
Of course intention matters, I donât know why you keep fighting this. Itâs probably because in your narrow-minded view âintention mattersâ = âeverything this person did was correct and the person deserved itâ which Iâve explained over and over is not the case. At this point, your misinterpretation is on you since Iâve corrected your stance several times.Â
And trying to dismiss me for victim blaming when you wonât even consider all the victims in the narrative? Cute, but obvious.Â
And now, I never said everyone views Scott through a race filter. I said that certain people perpetrate stereotypes  that are harmful to people of his race.
By viewing Scott through a race filter. For you, any interaction with Scott is based solely on his race and if itâs negative then itâs perpetuated by his race. This is what you do every single time anything even questioning him is posted. Must be racism!Â
You wanna try and twist it into something that doesnât show Peter is nothing more than a monster and Derek was fully complicit in it by doing absolutely nothing then again, keep it away from me. Itâs not worth my time.
So presenting another view that is counter to yours but still correct is not worth your time? So why is your view worth my time exactly? And once again I tell you in explicit detail my meaning and you ignore it and then use that ignorance to assume my intention and present me as the enemy when youâre the one being combative and uncompromising.Â
No amount of hurt words justify physical and mental assault. Full stop. Itâs beyond the pale you are even trying to justify that.
Again, I never said it was justified, clearly and over and over. Pretending to ignore it so you can try and further paint me as the villain? Obvious. Nice use of âBeyond the paleâ though.Â
Then they could have left his ass alone. Let him fend for himself, but you and I both know they werenât in Scottâs life out of the kindness of their hearts.
Your reading comprehension is not this bad, especially when I specifically stated in the section YOU quoted why they couldn't leave him alone. Youâre letting your bitterness put blinders on you.Â
Of course there are a million other reactions Derek and Peter could have had and similarly several different that Scott should have and could have had. The story was written for drama and conflict so we didnât get that. But what we also didnât get was a faultless teenager dealing with a villainous werewolf. If that were the case they wouldnât have reconciled the two.Â
I donât know your obsession with woobifying Scott to the point of no self growth. He was not perfect nor was he supposed to be. You can still love him as a vulnerable character. You can still root for him to improve even where the text doesnât call for it.Â
I think this is more about Scott being a teenager than a âMan of Colorâ, @camelotpark. I donât even think they knew Scottâs race enough to take it into account.Â
You also act like Peter planned to attack Scott specifically that night. We know thatâs not true. So no, donât go into the woods and both animals in their natural habitat. You might get bit.Â
You and @princeescaluswords love to get hyperbolic. Derek has lashed out at Stiles because of his mouth/actions and itâs been pretty much decided by Stereks that Stiles deserved it. The scene with the quote he mentioned is in quite a few fics so yeah, weâve already handled that, but thanks.Â
Also, his example of Stilesâ S5 speech especially since there was no hate speech towards Scott at all. Though your interpretation of that scene is far from what the writers intended though you wonât admit your ideas are headcanons.Â
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I only brought up Derek and Stiles because your friend did so maybe direct that ire towards him? Also, not going to respond to the StilesvGerard stuff because this isnât about them in anyway and I didnât bring them up and you donât know my thoughts on them so itâs unnecessary for this conversation.
First off, intention 100% matters. Itâs what you judge literally everyone by. You say that everyone views Scott through a race filter and you do that because for some reason you claim to know their intentions.Â
So yes, the difference between Peter and Gerard initially was INTENTION. Peter was out of his mind and itâs not an excuse but it does give context. Before you start frothing at the mouth about sucking the white manâs dick, Iâll let you know that I donât really like Peter in the first couple of seasons. I think because they liked the actor his characterization was inconsistent, but I do understand where his rage came from. It doesnât mean the choices he made were great (obviously), but you could anticipate them if you took the time to relate.Â
This is actually what I wanted to reply to:
When someone says that Scottâs hurtful words required a response because Scott only learns from experience (that experience being the continued abuse from Scottâs abuser) They are saying that Scott provoked the mental and physical assault he endured again from Peter so he could âlearnâ never to speak out of turn like that again.
There you go again assuming someoneâs intention instead of just asking for clarification. Because thatâs not the take I got from that comment at ALL (that I had to search for the context of).Â
Itâs not about not speaking out of turn, itâs about understanding that actions have consequences. When Scott said that it was a message to the werewolves that he thought they were beneath them and he didnât respect them, but he was willing to indulge them to get what he wanted. You argue in his defense that he had no reason to trust them or want to work with them, but they didnât have any reason either, except their instinct prodded them to keep him close. Something that Scott blatantly refused to understand.Â
Scott needed to understand the world that he was dealing with. The fact that the hunters were mass murderers and he would side with them because of a girl when really, what they did was just as bad, if not worse than the werewolves.Â
So of course a callous hateful comment like that was going to spark a response and Scott needed to learn that lesson because clearly telling him about the fire wasnât enough. He needed to see it in order to empathize.
I think this is more about Scott being a teenager than a âMan of Colorâ, @camelotpark. I donât even think they knew Scottâs race enough to take it into account.Â
You also act like Peter planned to attack Scott specifically that night. We know thatâs not true. So no, donât go into the woods and both animals in their natural habitat. You might get bit.Â
You and @princeescaluswords love to get hyperbolic. Derek has lashed out at Stiles because of his mouth/actions and itâs been pretty much decided by Stereks that Stiles deserved it. The scene with the quote he mentioned is in quite a few fics so yeah, weâve already handled that, but thanks.Â
Also, his example of Stilesâ S5 speech especially since there was no hate speech towards Scott at all. Though your interpretation of that scene is far from what the writers intended though you wonât admit your ideas are headcanons.Â
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I think this is more about Scott being a teenager than a âMan of Colorâ, @camelotpark. I donât even think they knew Scottâs race enough to take it into account.Â
You also act like Peter planned to attack Scott specifically that night. We know thatâs not true. So no, donât go into the woods and both animals in their natural habitat. You might get bit.Â
You and @princeescaluswords love to get hyperbolic. Derek has lashed out at Stiles because of his mouth/actions and itâs been pretty much decided by Stereks that Stiles deserved it. The scene with the quote he mentioned is in quite a few fics so yeah, weâve already handled that, but thanks.Â
Also, his example of Stilesâ S5 speech especially since there was no hate speech towards Scott at all. Though your interpretation of that scene is far from what the writers intended though you wonât admit your ideas are headcanons.Â
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There @russianspacegeckosexparty. Fixed it for ya.
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Peter âmindrapedâ Scott!
Scott Stans: He showed him TERRIBLE images and it could have traumatized him!
Us: Umm... yeah, but-
Scott McCall Stans: Poor Scott had to see all those people burning to death and suffering! He must have been so scared!
Us: I... you realize that... wait-
Scott âBrown Boyâ McCall Standom: POOR LITTLE SCOTT BOY!! BEING MADE TO SEE SUFFERING UNTOLD! HOW DARE PETER SHOW HIM THAT?!
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Itâs different, you see?
Scott Stans: Peter bit Scott without his consent and then MIND RAPED HIM!
Us: Scott bit Liam without his consent and then dug around Coreyâs brain without his consent.
Scott Stans: Well he had reasons.Â
Us: Also, letâs not forget how he forced Derek to bit Ger-
Scott Stans: LAH LAH LAH WE CANâT HEAR YOU YOU ARE PRIORITIZING WHITE PAIN AND WE CANâT HEAR THAT LAH LAH LAH SCOTTâS PAIN WAS WORSE!
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Never Give Up!
Scott Fandom: Heâs in AP Bio, heâs so smart and persistent and never gives up!
Scott McCall when dropping AP Bio:Â âItâs too much time, too much workâ
Scott Fandom: [never comments because they seem to forget this has happened.Â
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Stiles is the White Man Savior!
A white man who looks down on POC and tells them what to do based on his limited view of their experience?Â
Why is this bad when Stiles allegedly does it, but perfectly fine when itâs @princeescaluswords?Â
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Derek is with Braeden!
Braeden who was back in S5 and didnât mention Derek once? (Know who did? Scott to Stiles. Who also looked at his initials longingly).Â
Derek whom Stiles tracked down and the basically was with for days before coming back to Beacon Hills together.Â
Donât take this as Braeden hate, Iâm sure she and Stiles are besties when sheâs in town taking a break from pegging Peter or Isaac *shrugs*.Â
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He so Sm0rt!
Antis: Heâs the smartest man alive. He is basically a Rhodes Scholar.Â
Natalie Martin in canon: I had to suck some major D to make sure yâall walked. And by UC Davis I meant the University of Charleston Davis Community Theater College in Downtown Pasadena, because your grades are TERRIBLE, sis.Â
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We Still Donât Care
Scott Stans: Sterek is racist.Â
Us: No, you are, here are receipts.Â
Scott Stans: *blocks Us* Well itâs still paedophilia.
Us: Not in werewolf years.Â
Scott Stans: THATâS NOT TRUE DEREKâS AGE IS CANON WEREWOLVES DONâT AGE DIFFERENTLY!
Us: Because werewolves are real?
Scott Stans: ... HE ABUSED TEENAGERS!
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Stilesâ Fans Take Personality Traits From Scott!
What personality?Â
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re: Stereks are bitter about Braeden
Stereks donât care about Braeden or they love her and put her in their fics. I bet sheâs positively in more Sterek fics than Scott stan fics. Wherever those are.Â
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Scott McCall Loves Your Sloppy Seconds
Scott McCall is full of compassion. So much so that he ditches his POC girlfriend and bones down his best friendâs ex-rapist. Weird flex but you know, go awf.Â
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