can venus in the 12th house make people not appreciate their own beauty? Like someone who's really good looking but they just can't see it, they think they look bad.

no. it's a misconception that the planets represent seven different aspects of you and that venus is about your appearance. the ascendant, the aspects it receives, its ruler and even the moon can have something to do with appearance. venus can have an effect on appearance only if it has connections to your ascendant or luminaries. and also, venus isn't the only thing that makes you beautiful or conventionally attractive. I always like to use the example of megan fox, who surprisingly has a mediocre cadent venus in gemini in the 6th house. her rising is capricorn with mars right on top of it. I think her striking beauty has a lot more to do with the exalted planet on the ascendant than with her venus in the 6th, but that alone isn't enough, she also has the degree of the ascendant on the terms of venus and close to the fixed star vega, which is of the nature of venus according to ptolemy.

It's funny that Weyes Blood made associations between the Titanic and Andromeda before I could.

rio is THE pisces capital

Predictions for the US election and the solar eclipse in Aries. Translate the page to read if you don't know portuguese, because this is a great example of how mundane astrology is actually supposed to work. Ísis is the best mundane astrologer I know, she's never wrong and has the best content.

had lunch and some drinks with mom today while gossiping about how I found out that my ex is finally getting his karma delivered

I got such a cute surprise birthday party, I'm so happy about the people I got around me. My bf organized it because I wasn't planning on doing anything on my birthday because of intrusive thoughts about my friends secretly hating me.

Since the sun is going through Alpheratz, here's a scary real life Andromeda story for yall. Deise has Mars with Alpheratz in the 8th.

Hello! I don't know if you've been asked this before but what do exactly the north node and south node mean in a chart? Like I never really got to fully understand what they mean lol and since they're on my angular houses in my chart i'd like to know because maybe it's relevant. Thanks in advance!

In hellenistic, or medieval and even arabic astrology the nodes don't mean anything that special. They're just markers for eclipses and can indicate increase or decrease for the planet or angle that can be conjunct. You won't find the most ancient guys, like Ptolemy, or Manilius, Firmicus, Dorotheus, Valens etc saying anything about them. They're just points in the sky marking where eclipses happen.

Even the simple idea that they show increase or decrease is believed to have come from Indian forms of astrology.

But in modernity and with "evolutionary astrology" people started appropriating (always badly) even more the ideas of indian astrology about the nodes. But you can't do that without disregarding some very rich cultural and religious meaning and distorting what exactly they meant. So, you'll see this western idea of karma taking space in popular culture that's appropriated and totally distorted to fit our christian, punitive, evolutionist and capitalistic mindset.

You won't find many hellenistic astrologers today giving much importance to the nodes, except those who are mixing things up with evolutionary astrology, which doesn't even have any new or particularly different techniques, it just has this belief in a kind of spiritual evolutionism that derived from misunderstandings of the indian traditions.

The most educated answer for this kind of question that I know of is from Adam Elenbass. He's an hellenistic astrologer who plays around with the indian meanings for the nodes when it's appropriate, but he's able to discern the different traditions very well, I believe he studies the Vedas and was in Bhakthi for many years. He has many videos on the subject, but this is a good introductory one:

oh please tell us more about jungkooks chart 🫣 ❤️

I don't intend to do this, but to clarify something for everyone, I need to say: I will talk about third-party charts if they're of famous people and are available online, but I won't go into detail inferring things about these people's personal lives. I'm just going to talk a little about their image and career, showing you what you can see there about what's already public matter, as this is a blog that kind of focuses on learning astrology. But these charts are still from people who didn't agree to have a personal reading from me on the internet and I'm trying my best to treat them as that.

heey, i'm the jungkook anon, here to give you feedback.

Yes, he's actually BTS official center (cause in kpop groups they have these dinamics where they get assigned positions) and his nickname is "golden maknae" making a reference to how multiskilled and talented he is at everything. He's known also to be specially competitive (I specify with "specially" because korean society it's already very competitive on their own). You were also right with his popularity. I'm not sure if he is exactly the most popular but definitely one of them among with his teammate Taehyung.

When it comes to him being very different from what he portrays, I got that feeling too when I looked at his chart with the actual birth time. Before he said his birth time himself there were these rumored birth times going around that made him a Leo moon with a Libra rising which made a lot of sense with his sweet, sensitive and soft boy image but when I saw he was virgo moon and Capricorn rising, i didn't expect that at all lol.

I mean, the themes of Capricorn and Saturn do suit his life story a lot if you stop to think about it but you know, when I picture in my mind someone with a capricorn rising I imagine someone more like his bandmate Yoongi, who has a tsundere personality, is very serious and looks like this 😐 all the time hshshshs but probably that's just me letting myself be carried away by the sign most basic stereotypes.

And of course, he's an idol after all, they have a certain image agencies want them to strongly portray until the end, i'm very aware of that factor, it just took me by surprise.

Lol sorry for the long feedback! Thank you very much.

That's interesting, I used to have that idea about capricorns, but more and more I find it to be a misconception. Saturnians are usually outcasts and unconventional, so they're usually non judgemental, approachable and down to earth, I mostly see capricorns as sad clowns, they see things very clearly and realistically, that's why they need to sometimes make fun of shit, not that they're all nihilistic, but they can be. I have jupiter in capricorn and my favorite professors in university are capricorns. I got really close to one of them who has capricorn rising, moon and jupiter, and she's got a great sense of humor, not conservative at all, very bohemian, heavy drinker (in a fun way), 'black sheep of the family' everywhere she is, heavy metal fan as all the fun people in her generation were, but she's also the most conscientious, ethical and unproblematic one in her department without being boring lol. She takes on too many tasks, she does take things very seriously, but it's a delicate balance that she does masterfully, the only way to work hard is if you play hard as well.

hello! I'm the celeb anon. Since you said you were okay with it, what stands out the most from Jeon Jungkook's chart? He was born on September 1st, 1997 at 15:25 in Busan, South Korea.

Okay, well, the Moon with Regulus in the 9th house obviously indicates international fame. I know nothing about BTS but if this chart is right then I'm guessing this is the most famous member. Not only because of the Moon with Regulus, but the Sun with the north node adds to that. I havent seen the other members charts, but it's hard to look better than Venus in Libra in the 10th ruling the 5th, so his popularity might also be because he's very talented, creative and probably gets put as the frontman the most.

He's really pushed towards the 9th house and internationality. Mars in the 11th indicates the very competitive industry he's in, some issues and impediments with money, and can possibly also show a tricky and conflict ridden relationship with fans in a way. He's Saturn in fall in the 4th opposing Venus: he could feel like a stranger in his own home and probably likes working more. His private life may conflict a lot with his public image, and he's very different from what the public knows of him, but I'm not getting into that.

edit: okay, so I just found out the fandom is called "army" lol mars in scorpio in the 11th

hiii :) i was born on january 28th, 2006, in rio de janeiro 9:07 am. do you see something interesting in my birth chart? love your content btw 💗

Venus with the star Vega of the Lyra constellation can give talent for music and poetry. It's a very enchanting, kinda magical star, like Orpheus is said to enchant all living and non living things when he played his lyre. It can make someone kind of a charmer who can use that for getting what they want. It also gives aptitude for science and all arts. Venus is your second ruler of the ascendant and it's in perfect aspect to the first, Jupiter, and the Moon is there with it. Those 3 points in aspect: the ascendant, Venus and Jupiter, are what comes to my attention the most. You may be a very well-connected person with mentors, teachers and friends who are very important in your life. You're still young, but you could be yourself a teacher or someone who seeks a lot of knowledge and is generous with what you can offer to other people.

More on the temperaments of the planets

This is a continuation of the post "The nature of Venus - The reasonings behind the temperaments of the planets". On this post I'll demonstrate further how we can see a pattern in the temperaments using the Thema Mundi, and how the orientality or occidentality of the planets seem to be important to determine their temperaments. If you haven't read the previous post you won't fully understand this one, so please go there and then come back here.

We can almost split the chart vertically in the middle to see the oriental planets on the right and the occidental on the left. As I explained in the last post, oriental Mercury (which rises just before the Sun) appears on its sanguine house, Gemini, while occidental Mercury (which appears after the Sun sets) is on its melancholic house of Virgo. I believe that could be why Hellenistic astrologers all associate Mercury with these two temperaments in this way.

If we expand a bit of that logic to Venus, we see that as an oriental planet it is cold two times, by being a phlegmatic planet in the melancholic sign of Taurus. On the occidental side, its humidity is emphasized by the sign of Libra. Venus is a nocturnal planet, so its most important quality, humidity, is emphasized in the occidental/nocturnal sign to the Sun. This means we can give some special importance to Libra as a venusian sign, which could be one of the reasons why some like to associate Venus with the sanguine temperament. And as I wrote in the last post, because Venus is a benefic, we see it have domiciles that correspond to only one of its primary qualities.

Mars comes right after Venus, and as an oriental planet, it's at the extreme of its choleric temperament in the sign of Aries. But as an ocidental/nocturnal planet, its inflamed nature is contrasted with the water sign of Scorpio.

Then comes Jupiter, the diurnal benefic, which on the oriental side has its humidity emphasized by the sign of Pisces. As an ocidental planet, its warm quality is more emphasized by Sagittarius. In Tetrabiblos book I chapter 4, Ptolemy says Jupiter's most important quality is actually its warmth, which "produces fertilizing breezes", but here we can get a different idea.

On a side note, it's interesting that a lot of writers will say that the planets, as they have two houses, they are more powerful in one by day and in the other by night. Obviously, they say the day houses are the oriental ones seen here and the night houses are the occidental ones. Except for Sagittarius and Pisces, which trade places, and I have no idea why.

(49 footnote in Tetrabiblos, book I chapter 20 ebook - translated by J.M. Ashmand)

Now, Saturn is very cold and dry, opposing Cancer's humidity and coldness perfectly. Capricorn is its most ocidental/nocturnal place, where its manifestation is its most cliché. On the oriental side, Aquarius contrasts its temperament with humidity and heat.

I'm not either implying that Saturn is more malefic in Capricorn and Mars is more malefic in Aries, and neither that Venus is more benefic in Libra and Jupiter in Pisces. I don't think that, and I talked here before about how this idea, for example, that Aries is more war-like, or more malefic, than Scorpio, is not backed by tradition that much. And in my experience, signs and dignity are not the first thing that define the degree of maleficence or beneficence of a planet, if they even do that. Dignity means the planet has responsability over the place, that's why it's able to rule there. I don't believe Scorpio dials down Mars' power, otherwise it wouldn't be its domicile, it wouldn't be represented by the most dangerous and armed animal in the zodiac. Signs are not malefic, because they're not actors, they're costumes. The planets are the actors and they can be malefic or benefic in various costumes. The costumes of their domiciles have more to do with the action they're doing, they'll be able to act in their most classic and conventional manner in their own signs. Even the idea of detriment wasn't that big of a deal for a time in Hellenistic astrology and the maleficence and beneficence of planets weren't really determined by the signs they were in, and I believe forgetting about the association of good and bad to domicile and detriment is a good exercise. I believe in emphasizing more phase, luminosity, sect, the relationship with other planets and houses, with fixed stars etc, and even then, associating "good" or "bad" to planets in astrology can get very controversial, but I'm not going to get into this right now.

You can also notice how the humid quality is predominant in the benefics, Venus and Jupiter. What changes between the two is their temperature, Jupiter is warm because it's of the day sect, Venus is cold because it's of the night sect. So, dryness shows up in Sagittarius, the ocidental/nocturnal sign of Jupiter, because Jupiter isn't nocturnal; and in Taurus, the oriental/diurnal sign of Venus, contrary to its nocturnal nature. But even with that, a lot of (mostly medieval) astrologers believed the main house of Venus was Taurus and the "main house" of Jupiter was Sagittarius, so it could be that this "main house" wasn't the same thing and wasn't decided by looking at their position in the Thema Mundi. Or, it could be that the rationale was that they were moderate, so their main house shouldn't be the one that's most like them, I don't know. I do understand that is controversial to say that Pisces is more like Jupiter than Sagittarius, and that Libra is more like Venus than Taurus, but remember that what I'm taking into account is their temperament, which is modulated by their position in relation to the Sun. And in the Thema Mundi, this looks to be a pattern that starts with Mercury, being sanguine in its oriental sign, and melancholic in its occidental sign, but the rest of the planets aren't dual like Mercury.

With the malefics, the hot one is put in the night sect and occidental side and the cold malefic is put in the day/oriental side, to contrabalance. The dry quality is the more predominant and the contrast of their signs of opposite temperaments is on their humidity. This reminds us of what "benefic" or "malefic" are supposed to mean, which is propensity or not to life, fertility or infertility, determined by humidity or dryness. Water creates life and without water there's no life, no generation, no expansion. I would say that the malefics are more capable of being generative in their humid signs, which can be seen in how Mars and Scorpio, for example, have associations with seeding and the seeding season especially in mesopotamian astrology. Such a dead thing like a seed if watered can generate life. And Saturn and Aquarius, the water bearer, with agriculture in general.

The nature of Venus

The reasonings behind the temperaments of the planets

My boyfriend had an epiphany about Venus's temperament and he gave me permission to write about it as he doesn't intend to. He's not an astrologer, he learns a lot of astrology from me and as a Venusian he was baffled to know that some astrologers understood Venus as a sanguine planet. This is at least what Ptolemy says and he is just the most influential astrologer in history. This got personal when we did his own temperament calculations and learned that he can be either phlegmatic or sanguine depending on what you consider Venus to be (he's clearly very phlegmatic). As a Libra, the ambiguity was torturous. My boyfriend is convinced that Venus is phlegmatic and not even Ptolemy's authority will convince him otherwise. I don't know if traditional astrologers think about this or are aware of what I'm about to explain, but I myself have never seen any astrologer talking about that and pointing out the pattern he saw, so I think it's worth sharing.

He was just learning about the temperaments of the planets and he was questioning why Jupiter, for example, has domicile in Sagittarius and Pisces, which are choleric and phlegmatic respectively, if Jupiter is a sanguine planet? And why does Mars have a domicile that corresponds to his choleric temperament and then another in a phlegmatic sign? It didn't make sense to him, since the Hellenistics seem to love symmetry very much. The sudden lack of symmetry was unacceptable. To him, everything had to have a pattern and logic, and I think he found them and was able to make a very good defense of the phlegmatic Venus.

The Thema Mundi

For credibility in hellenistic astrology you have to justify things using the Thema Mundi, so if you're not familiar with what that is, this other post by @saturniandevil will help. When we study the Thema Mundi, we say we put the Sun in Leo first, because that's the height of the mythic summer, the Moon stays behind it in Cancer, because things have to start with the luminaries and the Moon is best represented in its phlegmatic phase when it's waning, when it's behind the Sun. The Sun has to see the other planets on its right, while the Moon sees them on its left, of course. And then the planets are arranged in Chaldean order from fastest, Mercury, sitting next to the lights in his role of assisting power, to slowest, Saturn, opposing them.

If you notice you'll see that the Sun and the Moon have temperaments that correspond to their domicile signs. The Sun is hot and dry, as is Leo, the Moon is cold and humid, as is Cancer. Next comes Mercury, the dual planet that is either melancholic or sanguine depending on its phase, cold and dry when it's after the Sun, and hot and humid when it's before the Sun, as illustrated below. It has domicile in Virgo and Gemini, which are melancholic and sanguine. If it stopped here everything would be already perfect, the Sun, the Moon, Mercury number one and Mercury number two cover all 4 temperaments and make sense in their domiciles.

But things have to change when we get to the malefics and benefics, because they don't work in the same way, because they're not supposed to. They're also 4 planets and in their scheme we have to consider that malefics are malefics because they're considered to be extreme, and benefics are benefics because they're considered moderate; this is one of the few consensus in astrology. Mars is considered mostly too hot and it has one domicile with the same temperament, Aries. And Saturn, considered mostly too dry, has one domicile in Capricorn. Because they're extreme, naturally they should have domicile signs compatible with their natures and other ones that are of the complete opposite nature as theirs. Choleric (hot and dry) is the antithesis of phlegmatic (cold and humid), and melancholic (cold and dry) is the antithesis of sanguine (hot and humid). The fixed water sign is considered the main house of Mars traditionally, while the fixed air sign is considered the main house of Saturn, signs where their natures are alien. This highlights even more their extreme natures, they're either here or way over there.

But benefics are considered moderate, temperate, so it makes sense that their houses correspond to only one of their lords' primary qualities individually. They are always in the same quality of either temperature or humidity when in domicile, never both and never neither. Jupiter as a hot and humid planet has domicile in Sagittarius because that's a hot sign that isn't humid, and in Pisces because it's humid without being hot. They don't need to be in domicile in a place that is of the same nature as them, just one that has one of their primary qualities.

This scheme is also more interesting, because it makes the malefic and benefic of the same sect have opposing natures. Jupiter is hot and humid, contrasting the malefic cold and dry nature of Saturn. Venus is cold and humid, contrasting Mars' hotness and dryness. If Venus is considered sanguine the entire scheme collapses. This is why Venus is phlegmatic in our opinion.

The Ptolemaic view

But why does Ptolemy say Venus is sanguine? Or what do I think is his reason? As we all know, Ptolemy created the geocentric system that defined astrology for centuries and continues to be a reference. Here's what he says about Venus's nature:

Venus has the same powers and tempered nature as Jupiter, but acts in the opposite way; for she warms moderately because of her nearness to the sun, but chiefly humidifies, like the moon, because of the amount of her own light and because she appropriates the exhalations from the moist atmosphere surrounding the earth. (Ptolemy, Tetrabiblos Book I chapter 4)

He gave astronomical rationales for everything, including for the primary qualities of the planets, using his own cosmogony. He's giving his astronomical reasons based on his geocentric system he's created, he's not the one worried about symmetry in this. He gives the nature of the planets based on their distance from the Sun, or from the Earth or Saturn, or based on them being in between two specific other planets etc. And there's nothing wrong with that, of course. He implies he's taking from "the ancients" the idea that Jupiter and Venus are both sanguine (Tetrabiblos, Book I chapter 5), he's following his teachers, he's not building everything from the ground up, obviously, so Ptolemy himself might not have even noticed how a sanguine Venus is the only loose end breaking a pattern. I'm not all against breaking rules, but if we use the Thema Mundi as a reference for everything in Hellenistic astrology, and we use it to justify criticism of modern rulerships, with the argument that those who use them don't know the rules to be breaking them, then I think we could see sanguine Venus in the same light.

part II - More on the temperament of the planets

“The killing of women and children is horrific—but in the reiteration of these disturbing facts there is something missing: the public mourning of Palestinian men killed by Israel’s war machine. In 1990 Cynthia Enloe coined the term “womenandchildren” in order to think about the operationalization of gendered discourses to justify the first Gulf War. Today, we should be aware of how the trope of “womenandchildren” is circulating in relation to Gaza and to Palestine more broadly. This trope accomplishes many discursive feats, two of which are most prominent: The massifying of women and children into an undistinguishable group brought together by the “sameness” of gender and sex, and the reproduction of the male Palestinian body (and the male Arab body more generally) as always already dangerous. Thus the status of male Palestinians (a designation that includes boys aged fifteen and up, and sometimes boys as young as thirteen) as “civilians” is always circumspect. This gendering of Israel’s war on Gaza is conversant with discourses of the War on Terror and, as Laleh Khalili has argued persuasively, counter-insurgency strategy and war-making more broadly. In this framework, the killing of women and girls and pre-teen and under boys is to be marked, but boys and men are presumed guilty of what they might do if allowed to live their lives. Furthermore, these boys and men are potentially dangerous not only to the militaries that occupy them, but to those womenandchildren who actually are civilians. The young boys, after all, may grow up to be violent extremists. Thus, kill the flesh—extinguish the potential. […] The Israeli war machine, much like the US war machine in Afghanistan or Iraq, does not protect Palestinian queers and women and children. It kills them, maims them, and dispossesses them alongside their loved ones—for the simple reason that they are Palestinian, and thus able to be killed with impunity while the world watches. Today, the difference between Palestinian womenandchildren and Palestinian men is not in the production of corpses, but rather in the circulation of those corpses within dominant and mainstream discursive frames that determine who can be publicly mourned as true “victims” of Israel’s war machine. Thus the sheer number of womenandchildren dead are enough to mobilize the US president and the UN to make statements “condemning” the violence—but the killing, imprisonment, and maiming of Palestinian men and boys in times of war and ceasefire goes uncited. In Israel men, settlers, and even soldiers are framed as victims of Palestinian terrorism and aggression. All are publicly mourned. In an almost direct reversal, while Palestinian boys and men have been the primary target of Israel, as evidenced by the population of political prisoners and targeted assassinations, are not seen by western based mainstream media as victims of Israeli terrorism and aggression. Palestinians are put in the self-defeating position of having to fight to be recognized as human, to be recognized in death and in life as victims of Israeli policies and actions.”

— Maya Mikdashi, Can Palestinian Men be Victims? Gendering Israel’s War on Gaza (via globalwarmist)

it's pretty funny to see TERFS fall back upon god and his divinely ordained telos to try and keep their soundbite shibboleths coherent

I know I've been here many times but I'd love to know what specifically stands out to you about mine!

May 16, 2003/12:00PM/Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Thanks babe!

You may overlook this, but Mercury is kinda like a lucky planet for you. It's very strong and evident in your life, not only because it's with the MC, it's also turning direct in a couple days after your birth and coming out of the sun's rays as a morning star. Mercury rules the 11th, it's your 'agathos daimon', your friends, mentors etc. It can make you hopefull most of all, happy, positive and a great optimist despite all the stuff about eclipses and algol.