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paintingformike · 7 months

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Sir Michael and his Lord William

a byler version of that one post !! tagging @howtobecomeadragon bc I did it (tho i hope u won't die after this <33)

zoom after the cut!

#IM GONNA DIEEE WHY IS THIS THE BEST CLERADIN ART IVE EVER SEEN #byler #art #fave

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paintingformike · 7 months

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i am their biggest fan. i commissioned one of my favorite artists emeriart to create this rovickie masterpiece.

#rovickie #art

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paintingformike · 8 months

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Maya Hawke posing for Celine Sutter - the "Moss" album sessions. Woodstock, NY. 2022.

#maya hawke

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paintingformike · 8 months

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#nancy my first fave

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paintingformike · 8 months

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I honestly didn’t think I’d see people have a problem with the mike driving headcanon but I guess there’ll never be a fits-all headcanon. I just don’t understand where the actual anger comes from, it’s harmless like 😅

#prev yeah i really dont think mike's driving skills affects a significant aspect of his characterization...#people just nitpick anything now like the tiniest silliest headcanons will get you mischaracterization allegations

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paintingformike · 8 months

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It’s because some of us can’t stand fanon mike he’s not will or el at the end of the day it’s not our fault the duffers already messed up his character arc long ago. some of us aren’t really interested in mike like that and to be frank I hate how much trauma people are putting on him as if he isn’t a privileged middle class *maybe cis maybe not* kid with insecurities cause he can’t play hero anymore like he used to. Fanon mike is retaliation to whatever we got the last two season from the character and I get it, but why are we keep acting like he’s important to vecna or the plot like that he’s just els boyfriend and wills crush at this point.

You don’t agree with this most likely but idc I’m just here to let this out for those who sympathize with mike. He’s genuinely not a interesting character and if Will wasn’t in love with him I wouldn’t look his way.

Hello? Will solo stan that doesn't get the show in My asks? more likely than you think

i'm sorry but you clearly sent this knowing i wouldn't agree with you and you don't sound like you want a conversation so... why did you send this? was it just to tell me there's people that don't care about Mike? because shockingly, i know that already, the influx in open Mike hate was why everyone doubled down on his character being important and purposeful last week in the first place

i'm genuinely confused on how you're watching the show, though. i mean, at least you're admitting you're only in it for Will so i guess you're aware of your bias and shortcomings?

also lmao sorry but *maybe cis maybe not*?? are you trying to say being queer in the midwest 80s in a small town with a conservative environment wasn't that bad or damaging or worth elaborating on because he's "probably cis" and the family is middle class? hello? newsflash just in, the queers need to stop complaining about how scared they are of coming out and potential consequences of it, if you're cis you're basically getting cishet privileges anyway. i'm really not sure what you meant to say here, you okay? also, aren't All the characters cis??

the vendetta you have against "fanon Mike" is fascinating tbh. what exactly is "fanon Mike" to you, bc the ask suggests it's just Mike with any motivations and 3dimensional writing orrrr? also thank you for telling me that Mike El and Will are separate characters! i almost forgot! i really needed the reminder that these extremely different characters aren't actually the same person or re-skins. thanks for your service, you really showed the evil Mike-sympathizers today o7

but you know what, sure, i'll indulge this a bit, i like talking about the show after all, you don't have to read this ofc, i feel like we're both aware we won't find common ground here

saying that Mike isn't important to the plot is batshit crazy sorry not sorry. not even talking about s5, it's just plain wrong in general and i'm assuming you haven't seen the show in ages

even right from the beginning Mike is established as the first MC and then proceeds to be the main pov for the entirety of s1. in universe Mike is the parties dm unofficial leader and according to Will "heart of the party", out of universe Mike is the only character that has established relationships and evolving conflicts with every single party member and even most adults like Hopper and Joyce. i don't know how you're watching the show to take away that Mike is unimportant and a support character

ST is an ensemble show and Mike is one of the characters, alongside El, Joyce and Will that consistently fills an MC role. (while also being one of the only ones to outright get referred to as one of the mains by actors and writers) where you got the idea from that Mike is a useless character people are stupid to care about is beyond me

if you're genuinely going into s5 hoping for Mike to be as unimportant and off-your-screen as possible i feel like you're setting yourself up for the disappointment of the century. i feel stupid just listing the reasons for why Mike is clearly going to be an important player in s5 because of how obvious they are but oh well

Mike is the first protagonist ever introduced and the final season that wants to go "full circle" Has to finish his arc satisfyingly for it to work

Mike is Will's love interest, a character that's already confirmed to be more of a main on screen again, so focusing on both parties of the ship is necessary to get them together

also Mike is still in a relationship? if he's supposed to go from dating El to suddenly dating a guy that's also his childhood bff you need to elaborate on his feelings. otherwise Will's romance is also going to fall flat and i'm sure you don't want that anon

Mike is part of the people that only came back to town after everything in s4 went down already and part of the group that seems to be the main focus in s5 (see the hill shot)

also just regarding the hill shot, Mike is center stage here (and also between his two "love interests"), totally accidental i'm sure

also the only character Will told about Vecna being alive in s4 and already swore to kill him with Will, also totally not a s5 set up don't worry

and before i go on here, aside from the writers themselves mentioning Mike as a main in multiple interviews David talked about the s5 mains a few days ago and Obviously Mike is up there along with El, Will and Joyce, exactly the people you'd expect

i don't understand how people are trying so hard to claim that there's nothing interesting about Mike to get into, as if even just s4 itself doesn't go out of it's way to set up an excess of potential conflict for s5

obvious relationship drama with El left hanging after an "i love you" monologue which we didn't see a response to yet

feelings for his best friend while he's still dating his gf

the unresolved painting lie

also the sexuality issue that comes with being queer/gay, that's been going back to s1. also made more severe by the show going out of it's way to repeatedly hammer home that the Wheelers are conservative and don't have close relationships with their kids

"you're the heart", speech about leading the party and bringing everyone together. he can't just face into the bg after Will gave him that talk, there needs to be payoff

the whole hellfire thing that's set up with the members names and faces being broadcast as "satanists" and the potential reason for everything that's been going on ON TV, sure that won't have any consequences am i right?

the Vecna plot itself, s4 makes it a point to have Will tell Mike and only Mike about Vecna being alive and the two of them agree to kill him right before the season ends

and that's just the obvious set ups s4 leaves us with, not even touching on the fact that Mike's pov has been withheld for essentially 2 seasons. which is something you can do and ignore, but only if the characters don't have anything going on during that time. Mike meanwhile changes drastically in these two seasons and we never get to learn what actually happened, why he's suddenly so set on growing up and getting gfs in s3, why he's suddenly such an uninterested bf in s4, why he suddenly feels weird about kissing El in the s3 finale after already having made out with her. there's a lot happening and we only see the fall out of it, we don't get Mike's pov. you call it "bad writing" but that's a picture book writing 101 set up, if you don't see that i don't know what to tell you

but i feel like you said everything already, i'm just rambling because i like talking. we probably won't find any common ground here. you only tolerate Mike because you like Will and that's that. not everyone has to care about every aspect of a show, however, i don't get why you're going to other blogs to tell them about your personal preference and about how you don't like one of the MCs. this is an ensemble show, it's not the El-show, and it's not the Will-show either, both of these takes are equally wrong

i don't know what the ideal s5 would look like to you, but if it turned out Will was the only important thing and the only character we focused on it would be absolute ass and horrible writing

Lucas just lost Max and left him with a shit ton of trauma, also Erica's gone through so much too. Max is still lost in a coma. El is distraught over not being able to save Max and now not find her anymore. Dustin just lost Eddie right in front of him too. there's a military presence in Hawkins now, the hellfire club fallout still hasn't happened, and so on and on. (also things like the "Nancy love triangle" still need time to be resolved too)

there's a lot s5 has to focus on to be a good wrap up for all these arcs. and yes, handling Mike's arc well is also part of that, shockingly

also ending this with a: you know people are allowed to like and care about character even if you don't give a shit about that character, right? claiming a central character with a ton of conflict set up isn't interesting is well withing your right and i won't change your mind on that, i'm aware, but going after people for actually caring about the conflicts the show is setting up isn't the move either. not everyone is obligated to share your views, especially when they're this far out there. and i feel like you knew that going in here

#THE PART ABOUT MIKE HAVING ESTABLISHED CONFLICTS/RELATIONSHIPS WITH EVERY SINGLE PARTY MEMBER EXACTLYYY #like will barely even gets any one-on-one scenes with max or dustin 😭#at the very least mike is the most significant member of the central group of the show (the party)#when i watched s1 the first time i just assumed mike was the main character cause we saw things through his perspective #also the duffers repeatedly emphasizing how hes the heart/leader...bffr #mike wheeler

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paintingformike · 8 months

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michael

#mike wheeler #art

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paintingformike · 8 months

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I honestly didn’t think I’d see people have a problem with the mike driving headcanon but I guess there’ll never be a fits-all headcanon. I just don’t understand where the actual anger comes from, it’s harmless like 😅

#wait is this an actual problem now 😭#ive seen it incorporated in multiple fics already

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paintingformike · 8 months

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only us

I’m touch starved and Mike is clingy af (I am the proof, I accept no other opinion on that)

#just died #byler #art #fave

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paintingformike · 8 months

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because losing you hurts too much

#byler #art

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paintingformike · 8 months

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cant believe i've had this pfp for nearly a year now

#cause if im remembering correctly i've had it since october 2022...which means 10 months of floofy mike. damn #im attached to it now i've never been tempted into changing it

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paintingformike · 8 months

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i think the fact that sttwt is basically dead rn and the only people left are the ones who (sort of) actually care about analyzing the show definitely helps but yeah...i feel a lot more comfortable discussing mike's character there than on here now 😭

havent been active on byler tumblr for a while but ive seen enough posts to notice that yalls takes about mike are starting to sound like twitter will fans who unironically hate him it pains me to witness this in real time

#the annoying ones who were constantly policing other people for the mildest fandom activities have moved on to other things who else cheered

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paintingformike · 8 months

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I am not above wanting Will's vecna vision to have a mean Mike verbalizing his greatest fears the same way Max had Lucas. Like I'm sorry if it's illegal to want vecna!Mike to be an amalgamation of Will's fears after "It's not my fault you don't like girls + We're friends. We're. Friends. + My life started the day we found you in the woods" then lock me tf up 👮🚓

#ohh and i need them to somehow incorporate what difference does it make by the smiths into it

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paintingformike · 8 months

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doubling down, the way some people on here talk about Mike makes me genuinely question why they even ship byler. if Mike is inferior to Will on every level, how is their relationship something you're rooting for?

and with the mindset that Mike can't even have his own feelings, trauma, or thoughts explored in s5 because it would somehow "take away" from Will's trauma... what do you want him to do in s5? just stand next to Will and look pretty? hold his hand a little bit and then leave so Will can have more character growth? might as well dead wife him in the beginning and bring him back in the finale so Will has a guy to kiss 💀

surely, there has to be some self awareness here that both people in a ship should be fleshed out and interesting characters in order for audiences to end up liking it? and that by wanting Mike to stop being a real character, Will would also look worse by ending in the most boring lifeless relationship imaginable? no?

#like i disagree with a lot of theories about mike relative to the supernatural plot #but u literally cant dig a little deeper into his character anymore w/ out getting accused of taking away other characters' trauma 😭#im sorry but someone theorizing about mike getting vecnaed in s5 does not mean theyre “copy and pasting” will's arc to him #this is a take a saw months ago that genuinely baffled me #vecna is gonna psychologically torture these characters regardless of what will's specific experience will be in s5 #you really think they wouldnt take advantage of this plot device to reveal/explore his internal conflict lmfao

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paintingformike · 8 months

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