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#discworld#gnu terry pratchett#meme#discworld meme#created by yours truly#thud!#the watch#vimes#sam vimes#sally#sally von humpeding#vampire#black ribboner#vitally challenged#differently alive#undead#dead rights
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Rereading Night Watch, it's definitely Thin Blue Line-y; there's no getting away from that, as the Discworld Watch series started as a subversion of the 'medieval fantasy guards who immediately get killed' trope. But it's a book about Sam Vimes reforming the police, forcing them to deescalate instead of resorting to violence first, and to support protestors instead of opposing them. And- this is important- he fails. Or rather, he loses- he succeeds for a little while, then his superiors have all the good cops killed. And he reflects that even if he had won in that time and place, the force would have become just another gang. The real success lies in laying the foundation to try again in the future, once they have institutional support and an idealistic new crop of recruits.
I don't know if that makes it okay, but I can't stop thinking about it.
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I somehow never see this quoted when people talk about Terry going loud with the commentary
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You realize that Discworld books are a gift that always keeps on giving when you get reminded about the existence of a famous turn of the century con man Victor Lustig and then you just stare at Going Postal for a really long time.
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I think that the Tiffany Aching books, for all of the crazy Nac Mac Feegle antics, have at least as much that hits hard and makes you think as the main Discworld series. It's crazy that these are children's books, except really it's wonderful that there are children's books like this.
"Ye ken how to be strong, do ye?"
"Yes, I think so."
"Good. D'ye ken how to be weak? Can ye bow to the gale, can ye bend to the storm?"
-- Terry Pratchett, The Wee Free Men
"We dinna mourn like ye do, ye ken. We mourn for them that has tae stay behind."
-- Terry Pratchett, The Wee Free Men
(Actually in large part that's what we mourn for too)
"Ye'll find the way if ye tak' yer time. Just don't stamp yer foot and expect the world to do yer biddin'."
-- Terry Pratchett, The Wee Free Men
"Them as can do has to do for them as can't. And someone has to speak up for them as has no voices."
-- Terry Pratchett, The Wee Free Men
She wasn't being brave or noble or kind. She was doing this because it had to be done, because there was no way that she could not do it.
-- Terry Pratchett, The Wee Free Men
I've been given something for a while, and the price of it is that I have to give it back.
-- Terry Pratchett, The Wee Free Men
He just looked like someone who'd been frightened for so long, it had become part of his life, like freckles.
-- Terry Pratchett, The Wee Free Men
But you had to start small, like oak trees.
-- Terry Pratchett, The Wee Free Men
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Some drawings from today!
#Discworld#fanart#carrot ironfoundersson#Captain Carrot#Commander Vimes#Sam Vimes#John Keel#Dr. Lawn#Mossy Lawn#adora belle dearheart#Rosie Palm#Nobby Nobbs#Fred Colon#Corporal Nobbs#Sergeant Colon#Guards! Guards!#Night Watch#Terry Pratchett#sketches#city watch#jellymish#Going Postal
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Ok so I just came across a what house would Steph be in post and cause I'm facing my discworld collection my brain completely erased Terfy Mc Terf from existence and asked what would Steph be studying at Unseen University. And pretty soon came to the conclusion that both Steph and Jason and possibly Duke (though an argument can be made because of his meta powers) would probably be witches instead of wizards. And maybe not even your traditional ones, like the alley is still very much in a city and city and witches don't really mix do they? But then there's the theory that Vimes is a witch and I would absolutely see at least Jason as that type of witch.
But yes I would think the alley kids are witches.
Not sure about the others, what do you think?
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from what I've observed it seems to be a fairly common practice in star trek fanworks when writing about navigating the galaxy, some people tend to apply a grid system and talk in terms of a "galactic north/south/east/west", which I'll agree makes a deal of narrative sense as the way star trek ships work in the fiction is more akin to naval ships than actual spacecraft.
However, I propose an alternative and think it'd be more sensible (and funnier) if United Earth era Starfleet decided to adopt the system from Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels for mapping the galaxy since it too is a disc, and then come the Federation years everyone else just kinda got stuck with it.
Farewell, galactic north, now Hubward, Rimward, Turnwise, and Widdershins are the official nomenclature of interstellar navigation and cartography!
#also i just think it'd be funny if it spread to other species#and now we've got Gowron and Gul Dukat yelling to plot a course rimward or widdershins#star trek#star trek ds9#star trek humor#discworld#terry pratchett
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What if the characters of Discworld were Avatars of the 15 fears from the Magnus Archives?
Now, just a disclaimer, this is just my personal opinion of which character would best fit the bill. Regardless if you agree or disagree, feel absolutely free to do so either way. Also, obvious spoilers for the books excepting Shepherd's Crown and Raising Steam.
The Web:
This one is obvious and can be no one other than Lord Vetinari himself. An absolute master of subtle manipulation and long term planning, Vetinari is the perfect Avatar of the Web. He creates a reputation of pervasive fear and makes people believe that he could do away with them at a whim, despite him never once killing a single person who wasn't an irredeemable criminal of some sort, and even then usually giving them chances to redeem themselves first. This being the case, I'd say Lady Margolotta is also an Avatar, and the one who exposed Havelock to the Web in the first place.
The Hunt:
The most stereotypical aspect of the Hunt is manifested most by Wolfgang von Uberwald, the textbook Hunter who chases and kills for the thrill of it. Both Sam Vimes and Angua hear the call of the Blood, but both refuse to heed it, and so aren't Avatars. I'd argue that there's another Avatar of the Hunt fulfilling the other role, created by the Hunt to be the perpetually hunted, the never caught but ever pursued white stag/ golden doe, the one, though not only, Rincewind.
The Eye:
One Avatar is Jeannie and every Kelda before and after her. The Kelda sees everything and knows what has happened and what will. The alternate answer is Blind Io, given his literal eyeballs that float around and also that he's cognizant of everything that goes on in the Disc, and that everyone knows he's watching.
The Spiral:
The Elf Queen. The undisputed master of illusion and deception, creating false worlds that operate on her rules, trapping people in unreal dreams they cannot escape, making them see and believe what she wants them to see and believe. Bel Shamharoth is also a possible answer given how he distorts the senses and feeds on those he traps.
The Buried:
Albrecht Albrechtsson. Knockermen are undoubtedly Avatars of the Buried, with the complex stew of fear and reverence they feel for the underground, and Albrecht is the lowest among them. Agi Hammerthief is probably the only fully realised Avatar of the Buried, who dwells beneath the Disc where no one will ever reach him.
The Flesh:
The Igors and Nutt. The Igors for obvious reasons, their affinity for tinkering with bodies, and their indisputable understanding of the fact that meat is meat, and as such can be used for a lot more than its original intention. Nutt because he is a creation of said tinkering, flesh made warped, with a living engine of meat inside him.
The End:
Mort and Bill Door, and possibly every zombie. This really needs no explanation. Mort stepping into his Master's role is the textbook descent of a human into Avatarhood, developing strange powers and slowly becoming Other. I'm not counting Death because he is the personification of the thing and isn't human enough to qualify as an Avatar, and I'm not counting Susan because she never carried out the Duty.
The Slaughter:
Carcer, the Gonne, and Cohen the Barbarian. Carcer killed for the fun of it with no care for reasoning, consequence or morality. He WAS a one man slaughter by himself. Cohen's existence was also very similar to Carcer's, albeit he killed far more people and lived by a Code that ensured that though he mass murdered on the regular, he always did it with the same honesty as a man hunting for his next meal. As such perhaps Cohen was more an impersonal personification of the Slaughter like the Piper rather than an Avatar of it. The Gonne was more an a artifact that channeled the Slaughter into whoever held it, be it D'Eath, Cruces or even Vimes.
The Corruption:
Vorbis and the Cunning Man. Vorbis absolutely embodies the toxicity and insidious creeping infestation of the Corruption. He pollutes organisations and people, changing them and turning them into versions of himself, utilising extremely unhealthy relationship dynamics in order to do so, creating an atmosphere ripe with fear, desperation and despair. The Cunning Man is similar except his method of corruption is more direct than Vorbis's ie literally taking over the body of his victim while subtly influencing the minds of those around him when he's less corporeal. His presence is filth of the mind and stench of the soul, and incites disgust and fear among those aware of his true nature.
The Stranger:
I had some trouble with this but finally decided on Susan and Lu Tze. Although one would intuitively put Susan under The End, in practice the characteristics she actually exhibits line up more with the Stranger. She walks unseen among others, unknown in the places she passes through, never usually staying very long in one place unless that happens to be her dwelling at that time. Her presence unsettles people. She doesn't fit in among others and has always been set apart. She's too undead to be truly alive and too alive to be truly undead. The only people who really know her are Death and Time. To everyone else, she's a stranger they see sometimes.
And Lu Tze, of course, is just the Sweeper. No one knows the first thing about him apart from the fact that he happens to be there. He's a part of the background of whenever he is. If anyone ever truly Looked at him, and actually noticed what they saw, that he's in fact a stranger in their midst, the first words out of their mouths would be "I do not know you"
The Desolation:
Stratford, Spider the Rat King, and Ipslore the Red. Stratford was a motherfucker who would bleed every last drop before abandoning the corpse he created. This was a bastard who, wishing to cause Vimes as much pain as he could, chose to target his son rather than seek him out directly. A man after the Desolation's own heart. Spider was out for everything the humans had. It wanted their utter ruin and destruction and was well on its way to achieving it. And Ipslore attempted to destroy the whole world with his resentment, using and abusing his own son as his instrument to do so, and would have succeeded too, if it weren't for some idiot with a half brick in a sock.
The Extinction:
The Things from the Dungeon Dimensions. The Extinction is the end of the rule of Man and their replacement with the horrifying Other. And there's nothing that fits that description better than the Things from the Dungeon Dimensions, constantly seeking to bring about exactly what the Fear is.
The Lonely:
This was difficult to decide as well, but I believe the First Tooth Fairy might qualify. Living literally locked up in a bubble separate from the rest of reality, it lives apart from everyone and everything else, keeping alone for all eternity. Additionally, I believe that every living witch(with the exception of Nanny Ogg) carries a piece of the Lonely inside them. Its influence never goes away, and those who succumb to it are the ones who become cacklers.
The Vast:
Tiffany Aching and, funnily enough, a Simon once again. Tiffany's primary source of power is that she is, at her core, something far bigger than herself. She may be just Tiffany but she is also Land under Wave, the power and will of millions of years of life before her. At her most powerful she is aware of EVERYTHING, from the bones of the flint beneath the chalk to time itself to the stars being born in the distant sky. She is small but she is also Vast. And Simon sees the whole universe and truly understands what he's looking at. He sees and understands more than he can express and his knowledge of the Vast almost approaches comprehension.
The Dark:
The one, though once again not only, Samuel Vimes. There couldn't be any other answer here. The dark walks with him. He was born in it, moulded by it... By the time he saw the light it was nothing more than BLINDING. But yeah, he is most at peace in the true dark in the pissing rain on the cobbles, even before he was literally possessed by the living darkness itself. The dark aids him and talks to him. The dwarfs and the goblins may live in the dark, but Sam Vimes looked into the Abyss, and he wasn't the one who blinked.
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Lady Ramkin's bosom rose and fell like an empire.
- Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!
There's something about this sentance I love. Whilst on the surface it's talking about a physical feature, the image it evokes just does so much more to describe Sybil as a whole person. And in just nine words! So impressive.
#sybil ramkin#discworld#gnu terry pratchett#the only appropriate male gaze#fangirling over Pratchett
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Discworld themed bumper sticker that says “drive it like you Sto Lat”
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I have a mission for you Discworld fans: reply with the wildest/most confusing/weirdest/ craziest out of context Discworld quotes.
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Yep, Night Watch still makes me cry, checks out.
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I think all women should give Monstrous Regiment a read. It does such a good job of portraying the bullshit that goes into being a woman in a man's world. I don't want to go too deep into discussing the plot so I don't spoil anything. But I do hope he continued the story in a later book.
Up next, we return to Tiffany's world in A Hat Full Of Sky!
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