revised alignment chart

lawful good: neutral good: chaotic good:

lawful neutral: true neutral: chaotic neutral:

lawful evil: ace tumblr neutral evil: ace tumblr chaotic evil: ace tumblr

on another note…. if lgbt people are getting scared that they’ll feel uncomfortable and demonised in lgbt spaces because they don’t prioritise cishets, that’s a problem

hey op let me Die what the fuck

queer alignments

lawful good: asexuals neutral good: non binary chaotic good: aromantics

lawful neutral: bi men true neutral: bi women chaotic neutral: trans men

lawful evil: gay men neutral evil: trans women chaotic evil: lesbians

i’m not an “ace exclusionist”, though?

i don’t care if ace people are in the lgbt community or not. i’m not going to throw out a gay man because he’s ace, and i don’t see why ace trans women couldn’t be here. i’m not at all exclusding ace people.

i am, however, excluding cishets. some of whom are ace. and that’s fantastic for them, but they are not lgbt.

it’s funny that we’re not called “kink exclusionists”. or “mentally ill exclusionists”. or “woman exclusionists”. theoreticallly, we are exclusing people from all of those groups, oppressed or not. 

but we’re not excluding them because they’re women, or kinky, or mentally ill, or whatever. we’re excluding them, because they’re cishets.

so. yes. that’s the view this week from me. i’m sick and tired of this fake term that implies things that are entirely not true about this debate. i don’t care if ace people are in here, i don’t care if lgbt people ID as ace, i don’t care if said ace people have weird discourse opinions.

i’m not excluding ace people. i’m excluding cishet ace people. 

which, i guess, is the same thing as “all ase people” to some :/

concept:

the TABIST+ community (TERF aphobe biphobe intersexist SWERF truscum community), alternative to REG. will probably make REGs even more upset. 

aces are valid but not lgbt. aces are discriminated against in personal relationships but not oppressed, societally or systematically. aces are often made fun of but there is no legislature against them like lgbt people have. by any standard of oppression, from race to sex to gender to sexuality, aphobia isn’t real.

because of that you’d think aces, or any minority group, would be ecstatic to be, you know, NOT oppressed; but aces just…want to be and its so weird. no american politician has ever said the word asexual yet aces fearmongered minors into thinking they’d be electrocuted for being ace. i’m just…what the fuck yall. why are you doing this to yourselves.

if youre straight you dont get to call yourself gay.  ever.  in any circumstance.  and yes this includes straight asexual people and straight aromantic people.

there seems to be a misconception on this website that if your life is made slightly harder because of a trait that isn’t the ‘social norm’, you’re oppressed. oppression is born out of a lack of rights, of violence, of being denied freedom to be yourself or even just be. oppression is when the masses would rather have you dead than you simply being yourself. oppression comes from more than just people being mean.

oddly enough if ur interests are different from ur partners its perfectly reasonable to break up with them. Wild

“Stop breaking up with your partner just because they are ace uwu uwu uwu oowoo”

Look Barbara, maybe you’ve never heard someone tell you “no” before but….people are allowed to leave you. People are allowed to break up with you.

Like it or not, some people need sex as part of their relationship. It’s not “bad” or “shameful”. People have sex drives! People get horny! Sex is just how some people like to bond.

I’m not saying they should force you into it. That’s COMPLETELY unacceptable. But if you don’t like having sex and your partner does, that’s kind of a conflict of interest so they have every right to leave you. Neither of your needs are being met, so what’s the point?

EVERYONE has different relationship needs. Some people only like romantic candlelit dinners, some people prefer to go to bars and then grab some McDonalds. Some people are strictly monogamous, and some people are polyamorous. Some people are physically affectionate, some people aren’t. Some people want kids, other people dont. Some people have a need for sex, and other people don’t want it!

Neither you or your “allosexual” partner are in the wrong, your needs just don’t match up! If your partner isn’t happy with you, they have every right to leave and be with someone that they can work with better, and you can find a partner that suits your needs better too!

Besides, guilt tripping people into staying in relationships they aren’t happy with can quickly turn into abuse.

fuck it

i dont want girls sexualising mlm relationships anymore. at all

i dont want them fetishizing our relationships bc they think it’s sexy

i dont care if its a “way for them to express their sexuality”. that aint right and its messed that they can say that they want men in the porn industry to stop fetishizing wlw relationships, only to do the same bc its “fandom”

Take a drink every time:

Ace people compare sex to a food metaphor

Ace people compare themselves to agender people

Ace people compare aphobia to biphobia

Ace people think LGB aces are really LGB, but straight aces aren’t really straight

Ace people encourage people to have sex with their partners to “make them happy”

Things that will never cease to amaze me

Allosexuals telling asexuals what the real definition of asexuality is and how it doesn’t count as a real orientation because it doesn’t cover all forms of attraction

“asexuals don’t like sex”

the insistence that only “cishet” aces/aros are not allowed when the term is applied to any and everyone who disagrees

the implication that aces don’t deserve to be LGBTQ+ bc some aces have acted shitty

the simultanous sexualization of aces, all while insisting that ace headcannons desexaulize characters

The refusal to listen to aces and their expierences

The overall exclusion of aromantic people from the whole discourse

The utter confusion of people outside the discourse about this whole debacle

the whole fricking mess

not to be ableyist but i legit do not care about your mental disorders, i don’t care about you having a manic episode or a breakdown or whatever. any of that shit does not excuse you for being racist/transphobic/etc etc etc. Saying “oh i was having a [insert mental thing]” as a reason why you said or did something incredibly offensive and thinking that will suffice as an apology is not how that works so either log the fuck off and scream at your wall or get a fucking grip. Giving a reason is not the same thing as an excuse which is not the same thing as an apology. 

Things that will ALWAYS take priority over aces "feeling valid"

-Suicide prevention for LGBT people (especially trans women of color, the group who struggles with this the most!!)

-Helping LGBT teenagers get out of abusive homes

-Providing shelters for homeless LGBT people

-Putting an end to conversion therapy

-Putting an end to corrective rape!!

-Helping LGBT women get out of abusive relationships with men (many of them are lesbians dealing with compulsory heterosexuality)

-Helping trans people get access to HRT or surgery if they want it

-Fighting against laws that oppress trans people such as the bathroom bill and many others

-Fighting against laws that try to oppress rights for SGA people

if you """come out""" as anything besides LGBTPN ur literally gross as hell coming out is such a stressful and scary experiences for uslike we literally have to fear being disowned, kicked out, or fired for it thats just not true for cishet ace people and trying to use such an important term we have to describe such a different and less scary thing is so incredibly insensitive i cant even describe it this also goes for all those cutesy names for coming out as things like furry or wiccam its not the same

im just gonna go point by point here -people who are questioning or unsure are of course welcomed in the community, even if a Q isnt included. no ones debating that questioning people arent LGBTPN -im not sure why this is different from the previous point. if youre sga and/or trans, you are of course LGBTPN, even if youre not sure which specific letter u fall under -how would a queerplatonic relationship make you LGBTPN? that, to my understanding of the term, has nothing to do with same gender attraction, just as being “”“homoplatonic”“” would not make you LGBTPN -unfortunately theres not really an agreed on term for this, but regardless, nonbinary people are included under the N, so its not really an issue. theyre not being excluded from anything -if youre a binary person whos only attracted to nb people, that approaches gross fetishy territory and you should really ask urself why that is -abrosexuality, again to my understanding, has nothing to do with who youre attracted to and same gender attraction, so why would it be LGBTPN? if it has to do with being unsure of your orientation, see previous -quoisexuality also has nothing to do with who youre attracted to, being unable to tell how you feel about someone isnt related to the LGBTPN community -polysexuality is included under the P. inclusionists use an A to mean agender, aromantic, and ace, so again i dont see why this is a problem -neurodivergency isnt a sexuality or gender, and frankly basing ur identity of off your mental illness/neurodivergency is pretty harmful theres really no one who should be in the community (aka sga and/or trans) who gets excluded by LGBTPN, except maybe questioning people but even that is a stretch so

I found it

I found the loophole. If A=ally, and I’m an ally, I’m LGBTQIA+. Checkmate exclistionests.

Hey guys, have you tought, that, if you feel uncomfortbale with PDA maybe, you could not go to gay clubs? It’s not that hard.