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referrix · 6 days

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I'd like to take a moment to talk about the season 8 Alfea refurb.

Season 8 sees not only the largest shift in art direction of any season of Winx, WoW included, it also sees a complete rebuild of Alfea, and while I do like some parts of the refurbishment, it does a couple of things that make me go “hmmmm.”

The biggest one of these is the destruction of the courtyard/quad's baby elephant paths*.

(*Misuse of the term "Baby Elephant paths" here, a Baby Elephant Path, also called a Desire path, is a path that is created by people continuously using what is often the shortest or easiest route regardless of whether or not it is a paved path, often causing dead grass and dirt tracks in lawns as they move across areas or through gardens. The term here is used in place of anything better, because the original Alfea courtyard layout contains paths that would likely be a closer match to the true Baby Elephant Paths if the courtyard wasn't pre-paved.)

In season 8 the 10 panels of grass are swapped out for 16 gardens arranged into a... well I suppose sea shell would be a good word. A dragonfly-wing clam-shell.

And it looks fantastic, but it also completely ruins the path finding of the courtyard.

Chucking it under a cut because it does go on a bit.

While each of the 8 dragonfly wings of this shell allow students to travel from the staircase of the central building outwards towards the two mirrored side buildings, and each wing is segmented into two, in order to allow a squiggly path to cross from one grass display next to the central stairs, around in a horse-shoe-like loop to the other grass display beside the central stairs.

Originally, the staircases that bridge the courtyard's level and the elevated platform in front of the central building are also affected by this renovation. Before season 8, there were 4 staircases.

The original central staircases were separated by a slim garden that rose along the incline like a pretty dividing rail, then two more staircases rose along the sides of the mirrored buildings. These outer staircases were separated by wide steps of grass. Good for sitting, laying, or feral student 'parkour.'

The grass panels that made up the courtyard were (and as of season 8, still are somewhat) surrounded on all four sides by wide paths that allow students to skirt along any of the building, fountain area or outer fence line without stepping on the grass.

Further, the original grass panels, though they did get upgrades like lights and small hedges as the series went on, were easy to walk over or lounge on them between classes, the season 8 grass sections have larger hedges, and a student would either have to put a bit of effort into jumping over them, or access the much smaller grass area through the open side along the squiggly path.

The path finding of the original court yard layout was also much more accommodating.

The original layout had two direct paths intersecting it, one from the front gate to the central building (actually to the wide fountain area where it would be easy to park a bus for students to (dis)embark for school trips,) and one from the central door of one mirrored building to the other across from it.

Further, it has three baby elephant type paths, that accommodate for paths that are likely to see a lot of foot traffic throughout the day.

One from the gate area to the central doors of the mirror building, one from the fountain area to the central doors of the mirrored building, and one from the front of the mirrored buildings (or the front of the covered walkways, not the tower door) to the front gate.

While the season 8 layout allows direct travel from the front gate to the fountain/central building, it has none of the other direct access pathways. The season 8 gardens would enforce circular travel around certain wedges or for the students to jump the hedges as they move from one building to another.

The season 8 gardens assume travel directions to and from the fountain.

So yes, it's pretty, but it's not really functional for a school. It's more the type of fancy garden you'd find at an estate or museum grounds. Something to wow visitors, not something for students to enjoy or use the space.

The court yard's main pathway is also a lot slimmer than the earlier seasons, which makes sense, since season 8 Alfea is overall, much smaller and shorter. But it Boggles me when I stop and really try to compare what that means, visually:

And that's just the courtyards in overlap. Season 8 Alfea's buildings could probably fit (if snuggly) within the season 1-7 courtyard without removing the season 8 courtyard. (The external garden areas (now with pools and gazebos) might not make it though...)

Speaking of the building:

In early seasons, the covered walkways possessed an arched ceiling hidden by facing, but below that it was possible to see a full length door. Basic slap-dash calculations suggest that Alfea's mirrored buildings sit at a height of up to 20 meters, not including the attic peaks on both sides (above the glass domes above the central doors, aka: stella's closet space.) because the space between the ground and the bottom of the balconies of the long windows that line the buildings is at least three-to-four times the height of the doors.

I previously put forward a theory that there were mezzanine levels, and split levels, within the building, but that it was fundamentally 5 floors (not including Stella's attic which would make it 6). And this didn't bother me all that much, we've seen that at least some classrooms have mezzanine walkways, and pretty high ceilings, we often see the high vaulted ceilings in the halls.

And it makes sense, because this is a school for fairies, and fairies fly. So of course they'd have enough room in a classroom to practice something while flying, of course you could fly down some of the halls without buzzing people on the ground, that makes sense with the context.

But season 8 Alfea? Is much, much shorter.

From the ground to the bottom of the balconies? Is two doors if that.

Meaning the height of the externally visible ground and second floor is not between six and nine meters, but four meters tops. Possibly closer to three.

More than that, where once there were three doors and two and a half banks of windows between the central doors and the tower doors that marked the ends of the walkway, there is now only two doors and two large windows on one side of the central doors, and one door and two large windows on the other.

Estimated length of season 8's walkway is around 16m from one end to the edge of the central door's area. My prior season 1 estimate has that same stretch at up to 30 meters.

The upper section and floors of the back towers are missing entirely to make the tower shorter than the main blue roof of the mirrored buildings. In addition the lower floors where the combat exam areas and magical reality chamber outer chambers are suspected to be, are slimmed down to the point I doubt there are any substantial rooms in them.

The front towers are missing external doors because they are now too narrow around.

I honestly don't know that the mirroed buildings are even wide enough, courtyard side to fence side, to hold more than one row of classrooms per floor, let alone two.

In early seasons, counts of students seen in wide shots, like the dining hall, counts of individual classes, and parties, often leave us around 50-70 students. I don't think I'm the only one who assumes that that's not an accurate count, that there's probably some day students (even though it's a boarding school) or seniors out on work experience, or just not everyone is in that one shot, and we're working with a medium that is given to copy-paste crowds, but generally, it feels like Alfea can fit an average student body of 70 and have wiggle room for more.

Season 8 Alfea makes me go "I don't think this place will fit an average body of 60 students."

Season 1 of Winx Club saw Alfea host not just the students but also the teachers of Alfea, Cloud Tower and Red Fountain at the same time during the Trix's siege. Lets assume the schools have a flatline average of students, that's still 150 at a minimum. 210 max if we assume there are no other students who come and go and throw off the numbers.

Plus the staff, which is at least 5 known teachers between Cloud Tower and Red Fountain, and at least 8 for Alfea. So Add in 13 Teachers.

Season 8 Alfea does not have the space, it cannot host that many people.

Maybe it could, maybe it's a more realistic building, maybe the internal structures make sense, but I've spent so long trying to wrap my brain around season 1-7 Alfea that I just... I can't with season 8 Alfea.

The Things about the Season 8 Alfea refurb I do like:

The glass dome on the mirrored buildings has a semi visible interior, which could be used as a green-house/sun room, where the earlier seasons it was just sort of there and high vaulted on the inside up to like, half way the large balcony windows. Like there doesn't look like there's anything in there from the outside, but it could be a good inside green space. or for hanging out washing on rainy days.

The big light under it is also pretty nice, kind of sunny/sunflower aesthetic.

I also love the detailing in the windows and doors, it's super cute and feels like a low-key fairy aesthetic next to basically flat green doors (I've been assuming the early season doors are at least partly green coloured glass paneling in the dorms)

The upside-down flower lights lining the external walkways are life giving, tbh. I need them.

#winx #winx club #alfea #winx season 8 #season 8 refurb #non referential rambles #don't fret I don't hate everything #winx alfea #I have had this sitting in my drafts since march 10th

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winxclubconfessional · 7 months

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“I don’t really get why Sky is accused of cheating on Bloom. While he didn’t even love Diaspro, and to my knowledge they weren’t even dating. Sky was basically forced to hang with her. It was an arranged marriage. This was out of Sky’s control. Did he really have any other choice?” -Anon

#winx #winxclubconfessional #winx club #winx club confessions #bloom #winx 8 #fairy form #stella #tecna #specialists #diaspro #winx diaspro #Winx sky #sky #Winx bloom #Winx season 8

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lunar-and-ardent · 5 months

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everythingpuddle · 12 days

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How much do you know about season 8 if did you watch the Italian dub or the English dub

I watched the English dub a few years ago when it was available on Netflix. The plot was pretty basic so a lot of it just kind of… slid from my brain as soon as the episode was done.

#asks #gloriousdreamunknown #winx #winx club #winx season 8

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raspberrypunk6 · 3 months

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What upset me most about season 8:

To begin with, the scriptwriters suddenly decided to introduce unprecedented ambiguity in the villains. And this sudden backstory about Icy was an even bigger surprise. But the writers didn’t even give the couple Riven and Darcy a chance. Their meeting was a complete disappointment for me. There were no conversations between them, despite the fact that they dated in the first season. But the worst thing is the clown-like light in which Darcy is shown in this episode.

#winx #winx season 8 #trix darcy #trix #winx club #darcy #riven x darcy #riven winx #opinion

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winxclubfangirl · 11 months

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Icy's backstory from s8 is garbage

Icy’s backstory as shown in season 8 is ridiculous and doesn’t make any sense for the real Icy that we saw from season 1 up to 3.

Firstly, was she a witch or a fairy? Remember that in season 1, when the Trix broke into Alfea to look for the Dragon’s Flame, they mentioned that fairies are the ones who are royalties. In other words, if Icy was a witch, there’s no way she was ever royalty. Yet, in season 8, her backstory claims that she was a princess of a realm called Dyamond. If we are to accept and believe that, it would imply that she was a fairy who became a witch later on. Now listen, I know that the interconversion between fairies and witches exists in the Winx universe (even though it’s silly). But in this case, it’s not possible to assume that Icy was a royal fairy with a fairy family and became a witch when she swore to free her family from the “powerful witch’s spell.” Why? Well, I’ll tell you why.

In the earlier seasons it was mentioned that Icy, Darcy and Stormy were the direct descendants of the three ancestral witches. In other words, Icy was definitely a witch. Always has been. So, it contradicts her backstory of being a princess. Also, this is exactly why those three witches call each other ‘sisters’. They are related. Yet, in s8, Icy acts like she isn’t related to Darcy and Stormy at all but to some Sapphire who just materialized out of nowhere. Just weird.

Now, in her backstory she was portrayed as a poor, wronged girl who wanted to avenge a family. Okay? Now kindly recollect the Icy up to season 3 or even up to season 7. Avenger? What a joke! A dominant, power-thirsty, cold-hearted, purely evil witch! Before anyone says – “She wanted power to free her family!” – listen up first! Think about how she showed no sympathy or understanding for Bloom and Domino even though the situation is basically the same for them in the first 3 seasons. Isn’t that weird?? Also, Icy was not only hungry for power but world domination – something clearly not needed if saving her family was her goal. She and her sisters tried to take over the Magic Universe several times. Also remember again that she is the descendent of Belladonna, one of the 3 Ancestral Witches – beings of pure evil. She definitely could not have been the cinnamon roll she was shown to be in her s8 backstory.

Another thing. Hair colour. Lol, wth!? Icy always had white hair. In s3, the black willow episode showed how the Trix looked like when they were young. Icy had white hair and looked very different from the blonde-haired princess we saw in her backstory in s8. In fact, changing her hair colour from blonde to white is meaningless and … like, why would anyone want to do that? She’s supposed to be some panic-stricken princess in her backstory… not some fashion-crazy girl. Nothing makes sense. Absolutely nothing!

Last but not the least, the Trix were arguably the most powerful witches after their ancestors in the series. So, who is this mysterious witch seemingly stronger than Icy, who destroyed Dyamond or whatever? This is stupid as hell.

Anyway, thanks for listening to my rants. Byeee!!

#winx club #winx icy #trix #winx season 8

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darlenicy · 3 months

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Rainbow, you can't be serious about this. It looks like the Powerranger kindergarten.

And look at Timmy's ass 😂😂😂😂

nice booty lmao 🍎

#leni watches winx #winx club #winx specialists #winx season 8

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no-white-dress · 10 months

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Icy's season 8 backstory is fine, actually

Let me start off by saying that IT IS TRUE that the execution could have been better, that it's a huge retcon on the character, that it came really late in the series. On the other hand, nothing after the first movie was exactly in the plans so the last two points are sort of weak.

Nearly every fanfiction I've read has a better backstory for the Trix (allow me a moment of self-appreciation, even mine does). I am not fond of Icy and Bloom having specular stories (Roxy was enough), although I see why the writers thought it was a good idea. However, that is not what I want to discuss.

Generally people complain about 4 things:

1) the Trix's sisterhood

2) Icy's connection to the Ancestral Witches

3) the fact that the Trix keep coming back

4) how out of the blue the backstory is

While point 4 is legit for the reasons listed above, the others are not.

1) The only evidence of the Trix being blood sisters comes from something Straffi said once like a decade ago.

The series (pre s8) goes against the Trix being blood sisters in s3, when they don't recognize each other after falling in the waters of the Black Willow.

The comics go against the Trix being blood sisters as well: in number 27 Icy recalls her childhood, saying that she used to play with Darcy, Stormy and Darko in a park where their babysitters brought them. They grew up together, but as friends.

Their design and characterization goes against them being blood sisters too: how are they all enrolled in Cloudtower at the same year if they have different ages (which is a very common headcanon)? Plus, their physical appearance tells clearly enough that they're not twins, since they would at least share some traits.

Not to mention that Darcy and Stormy could still be blood sisters.

The fact that they call each other sisters is irrelevant because there are several contexts where people call each other "brother" or "sister" but aren't siblings.

2) Icy's backstory does not contradict the fact that she is the descendant of Belladonna.

The Ancestral Witches are older than Valtor. This means that their bloodline crosses millennia. Consequently, they can be the ancestors of the Trix and not be their grandmas. Icy being a princess doesn't mean she can't have an infamous ancestor somewhere up her family tree (quite the contrary).

Realistically speaking, the Ancestors are so old that their family tree is probably forgotten by many for the most part.

Also, nowhere in the series was said that the Ancestors themselves were blood sisters either.

And I need someone to explain to me how, if the Trix are blood sisters, they can descend from their matching Ancestral Witch and not the other two. That is not how family trees work, folks.

Icy being a princess doesn't mean she can't be a witch either, as some suggest, because we see clearly with Faragonda, Mirta and Selina that you CHOOSE whether you are a fairy or a witch. Her decision of becoming a witch may be counterintuitive, but that's on the writing and I already said I have bones to pick with the writing itself.

3) I understand that the Trix constantly coming back can be boring given their underwhelming performances in s5-7 compared to the first 3 seasons, but despite everything they're the most recognizable villains, as said by @/UnicornOfWar.

4) As I said, the story IS out of the blue. But it's pointless to complain about how late in the series it came, because it's a retcon that was clearly, obviously planned when it was too late to insert hints in the previous seasons. Bad writing? Yes. Are we used to it? Also yes.

Besides, it all began with the Trix and if any season is really going to be the last, it's fair that it is one that wraps up their story as well.

I am sure that if Tecna or Flora got a backstory, a proper one, that late, people would complain about that too.

#winx club #winx trix #winx season 8 #winx icy #ancestral witches

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