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tothepointofinsanity · 3 months
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It was all very well to say “Drink me,” but the wise little Alice was not going to do that in a hurry.
“No, I’ll look first,” she said, “and see whether it’s marked ‘poison’ or not.”
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ghst001 · 8 months
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Can't believe Homura actually silenced Sayaka…
Look at sayakas neck…
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In the movie concept art homura detached her bones and reattached them to her cape while sealing her mouth so she couldn’t fight back or say anything about her new world
While the new trailer changed things up so maybe she has a huge scar under her bandages that prevents her from speaking
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cocoa-bird · 8 months
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now that i’m able to pause and look closely it looks like everyone has different outfits in the trailer!! i wonder why?
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dreamerwitches · 8 months
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My screenshots, I'll put them under the cut if you don't want spoils
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The Homura at the beginning is deffo not Devil Homura which is interesting. Though she has the lizard of her..? Maybe she just altered her appearance as a disguise
The bow wielding girl seems like a new magi but the Homu similarities are there. I dunno but she kinda looks like a fusion of Madoka and Homura
The girl jumping off the roof definitely looks like Madoka, that or the new girl
The new uniforms are cute, and yay Hitomi!
Idk why but the magi girls look kinda off? Like, they don't look like they're in the pmmm style and it weirds me out... But I like how Mami's outfit looks. Sayaka though... you going to a Halloween party..?
The final tower is definitely on the school roof PLUS fucking finally some witch content, the Clara dolls are on the tower and at the base
The Soul Gem on Homu's hand seems important cause it's different
I feel like this world is an alternate one made by Devil Homura, but better than she did in Rebellion hence the minor differences in uniforms and such. I wonder if a regular Homura (or more?) are going to invade to stop her schemes. How? Beats me... I'm kinda sad this doesn't seem like the concept movie though... also where's Nagisa you fucks
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aqours · 8 months
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what really got to me in the trailer is how Homura looked so sinister, how genuinely happy she was to see Madoka happy without her being involved, and how. tired she was at the end.
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the first real shot we get of her looking particularly triumphant, asking her opponent if they can shoulder what she now shoulders, immediately followed by a slideshow of Homura's trauma throughout the show and someone telling her (likely Sayaka as she refers to Madoka as "my best friend," or it could be Madoka herself addressing Homura, as she also calls Homura "her very best friend.") to release her as words float on the screen also making it clear how highly Homura thinks of Madoka.
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"This world is for Madoka."
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but she only looks. completely, genuinely happy the whole time in a way that isn't a look of triumph watching Madoka have fun. watching her genuinely enjoy herself in that gilded cage she created.
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and by the end she looks so. tired. like she looks exhausted.
Homura is an evil demon. that's what she became when she committed an unforgivable sin: ripping off the wings of a goddess and dragging them down to earth.
and she did it all for one person and her happiness, even if its unwanted. she's happy when Madoka is happy in her cage, and wants to protect that cage at all costs: even her own happiness. she's clearly not happy with her own situation. being evil sucks. not being close to Madoka sucks. and the only way to ensure what she feels is Madoka's happiness is to be her enemy. it's so tragic, everything she does and ever will do is for Madoka's sake, no matter how twisted and warped it is. the only thing a child who was never allowed to grow up in 10+ years can think of.
the world is for Madoka. that's the crux of everything the devil called Homura Akemi does. it's for Madoka. it's absolutely not for her.
and it makes me. constantly think of that thing that Madoka's seiyuu once said in a Q&A:
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no matter what happens, Homura is Homura, and Madoka will adore her, even if they're now enemies. this is the last thing in the world Madoka would want for her. Madoka would want to save Homura no matter the cost.
i think of Madoka fully realized what was happening, her greatest wish would be for Homura to just have the good night's sleep she clearly desperately needs.
"Falling in love with someone is wonderful, so don't call yourself the devil. I love you."
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niidsch · 8 months
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My best friend.
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burnorgetburned · 8 months
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okay. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO SAY.
NEW MUSIC STYLE. NEW ART STYLE. NEW MAGIC SYSTEM, NEW GIRLS, MORE CLARA DOLLS, MORE HOMURA OUTFITS, MORE EVERYONE OUTFITS, and AAHAHAHAHSGH.
Homura wins by style points alone.
Anyway. Choice screenshots and my thoughts on them. Plus a few wild theories. Replies, tags, and your own reactions are VERY welcome.
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(You're doing great, sweetie!)
First of all, I’ve already said this, but Homura has usurped Kyubey. She is the contractor in this new system. She calls magical girls and asks them if they can bear the responsibility of fighting (LEAGUES better than Kyubey's misleading BE A HERO language), using a magical lizard phone. She knows better than anyone else how heavy this is.
And she looks amazing while doing it. Look at that outfit! Look at her steampunk-esque aesthetic! Her throne. Which, notably, has glowing magenta eyes and her wings as a backrest.
The moon is either actually, physically repurposed, or she’s made something that looks like it. Not only that, but the pins going into the moon are exactly like the pins that went into her soul gem when she was being experimented upon in Rebellion. Those pins, according to the artbook, are for draining her gem of grief to keep her just before the point of witching.
Well, here’s my first wild speculation: Homura has not only taken over Kyubey’s job as a contractor but also its job of disposing of grief. That moon steampunk device is maybe for collecting, concentrating, and distilling grief into energy - hence the strange tesla coils connected to red liquid in the second screenshot above. She's doing what Kyubey says it's doing - turning the grief of people into energy to prolong the universe's lifespan.
I for one support her reality-warping shenanigans.
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Here are some voices over a phone, sometimes speaking over each other, sometimes together. They call Homura “Akuma-sama” (!!!) which is a distinct upgrade from calling her Good-For-Nothing. They say “Just bring hope” like a mission statement. Are these her contracted girls? Or her Clara Dolls? They seem to show her a lot of respect.
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I’ve also said this, but I strongly feel that this and the girl shown later are some of Homura’s new contractees. Their magic is darker. It warps the world around them, even. Their outfits incorporate black a lot more, too, though that might be the lighting.
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Look at the little sigil on the top left-middle! Looks a lot like Homura’s lizard sigil shown when she was consuming the universe, just with a longer lizard.
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And, of course, the image of Madoka throwing herself off of a building. “Wraith” and “Legend of Bestie” (lmao) show up here. I’ve actually been really looking forward to seeing what they’ll do with Madoka’s… self-sacrificial tendencies, so this might be part of that. Or, because of “Wraith”, it’s… well, I’ll get to that later.
On the other hand, it might not be Madoka. It might be the girl who the speaker in the phone call calls her "best friend", jumping to her death because of a wraith, and Homura saving her to fulfill a wish.
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So glad that the insane architecture from Rebellion is making a comeback. Love what you’ve done with the place, Homura. Look at all those cranes!
The outfit changes are very cool to me. I honestly don’t have speculation for why Sayaka is covered in bandages, but I do have speculation for the changes!: they’re older. Years have passed. Since they’ve changed and grown, their outfits have changed, too. I don't have proof of this - I just like the idea.
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Light shines down on Madoka. Petals fall towards her as flowers bloom above. Behold, Homura's extremely subtle and inscrutable feelings. (Sorry for the blurry Madoka, but I am not going through the ordeal of uploading screenshots to my computer again because Tumblr does not like mobile users).
Homura is apparently waiting for Madoka here. She's standing right in the fountain's water and holding a Victorian umbrella like a vampire. Right now we can see that the visuals of this movie will not miss.
Is this a routine thing for them or is Homura just showing up to greet them this one time, for some reason? No clue. Madoka's expression as she notices Homura could indicate either.
Eagle-eyed people on Twitter noticed this, but in these shots, Sayaka already has her bandages.
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Aside from the multiple and/or teleporting Homuras, there's also a Clara Doll in a ballerina dress and a cute Clara Doll peering over the side of the tower like a little kid.
The tower is interesting. It appears to be made of books or pages, and there's chains throughout it. More notably, it's in the shape of a helix - infinity symbols on top of each other.
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Please appreciate these Clara Dolls. I'm sure they're working hard.
But seriously, those Clara Dolls' details. One has a witch's hat. One has an apple on its head. And the one with a teacup appears to have not only a lizard's tail but a replica of Homura's Devil outfit. Appreciate them!
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Here is Homura(?), lounging or trapped on a chair filled with even more of those pins. Look at her closely. She's wearing a strange combination of her magical girl outfit and her Devil outfit - her shoulders are bare, and she has... feathers? She's sitting on a bunch of nails. But she also has two soul gems - one in her hand, and one hanging from her neck.
Is she cleansing them? Eating them? Holding people hostage? I don't know, but I support her completely.
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She looks so tired.
So: here's some of what I think might be going on.
Homura is using wraiths to repress her worst memories. We know already that wraiths take memories and emotions from their victims. Well, there's no reason it can't be used as extremely terrible coping! Homura actually does this in the Wraith Arc, too - she lets a wraith take her feelings for Madoka.
If it is Madoka, it explains the shot with Madoka throwing herself off a builing - what if Homura has seen this happen in the loops, and out of pain lets a wraith pull it right out of her? The shot says "WRAITH" and billows with smoke. A wraith could have taken Madoka's form to act out this memory. And it doesn't need to be a memory - it could also represent Madoka's self-sacrifice and almost suicidal tendencies. This, too, would explain the multiple Homuras. All wraiths using her form.
This puts forward powerful enemies for the plot, as well as an interesting point of literally fighting Homura's demons. Most importantly, this lets everyone see Homura's pain.
Other wild dartboard speculations:
Homura will try and present herself as a villain. This is, honestly, kind of guaranteed, but it bears mentioning that her magical girls will be very likely to try to defend her.
Kyubey may appear to try and turn the girls against Homura.
Homura made the new magical girl who is drawing a bow. She has a lot of design choices from the Quintet, and people have already noticed how much she looks like Madoka. This new girl plays a role of the hero to Homura's pretend-villain, eliminating the risk that her friends will get seriously hurt.
The new magical girl is actually Madoka. Or the Law of Cycles. Or Kriemhild Gretchen.
The girl who jumps from the tower is a contractee being asked to take a leap of faith. She does so, and Homura rewards her with magic.
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ellipsiseffervescent · 7 months
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I am once again going to talk too much about Rebellion
and how people don’t understand Homura. Here I would like to address the reasons why people call Homura evil/the antagonist, which is usually their reason for disliking Rebellion. My blog has basically morphed into an obsessive discussion on why that movie is my favorite and elevates the story, so I’ve covered a lot of these topics before, but I hope to make things more comprehensive here.
I’ve seen some people call Homura “corrupted” by the part of her that is a witch. Two thoughts on that:
Rebellion goes out of its way to show you that witches are not inherently evil. They have experienced serious pain and are spreading that pain before Madoka’s sacrifice. However, if this meant that witches were inherently evil, then why are Sayaka and Nagisa not? They are still witches- that’s why their witch forms are still a part of them.
Also, in Rebellion, Sayaka warns Madoka’s essence to not fear Homura, as “she’s the one who’s most hurt”.
I think that people misunderstand the theme of what a witch is overall. A witch is an inevitable reality of magical girls because being a girl in a patriarchal/Kyubey system is CRUSHING. The transformation into a witch is a coming-of-age step into womanhood. It comes from the culmination of mistreatments and systemic oppression girls inevitably become overwhelmed by. This isn’t to say that all women are forever overwhelmed, but it is an unpleasant reality that most women become awoken to. Think of the resolution of the Barbie movie, for instance, where (BARBIE SPOILERS) the characters need to “wake up” the others to the suffocating reality of living in a patriarchy. Same principle, honestly.
I also think that people sometimes interpret the Christian imagery in a stereotypical “good vs evil” way than looking at the situation, especially when it comes to Homura’s demon label and Madoka’s sacrifice.
I’ve talked about this a lot so I won’t go into too much detail, but I believe that the series is going out of its way to create its themes around the dark reality of the self-sacrificing nature of girls. For a brief recap:
Making wishes for someone else is considered taboo
Madoka mattered as a girl. Throughout all iterations of pmmm and its sequels, Madoka laments on the tragedy of magical girls vanishing from the world without anyone knowing and says in Rebellion that she would never want to go anywhere where she couldn’t be around her friends and family. Her mom had plans for them when Madoka grew up, her brother remembers her, and it drives Homura insane that she’s the only person who remembers the other timeline. Madoka was always worried that she wasn’t good enough at anything to have a place in the world and I truly have a hard time believing that this series is saying that young girls who don’t feel they have value anywhere else are best served to sacrifice themselves into oblivion. That’s basically been the history of women, forever.
Homura calls herself a demon because, “[Madoka] was sacred as a god and I couldn’t help but pull her from heaven and undermine her.” Throughout the Wraith Cycle, Homura commits herself to honoring Madoka’s sacrifice and new world order, so the phrase “and I couldn’t help but pull her from heaven undermine her” is, I think, more of a reflection of her self-loathing for going against Madoka’s wish and less of a true admission of evil, because I don’t think that Madoka’s erasure from the world was ever an okay thing. I think people get too hung up on “demon-bad” without thinking of the nuances of the imagery. I don’t believe that Madoka’s godhood is inherently good, and I don’t believe Homura’s demonhood is inherently bad. I think that Madoka’s godhood is more an alignment with self-sacrifice, and Homura’s demonhood is an alignment with desire, and I think that too much of either is a bad thing. It’s why they both needed to come together to eviscerate the Kyubeys.
I think that the label of “demon” makes Homura irredeemable to people and I think that people are deeply unforgiving of the not so pretty things that make us human. I’ve seen that a lot of what I assume are younger users are completely unforgiving to girl characters who go through things and make mistakes. I’m not even talking about Azula defenders (though I think there is a nuanced conversation there) but the Catra-type haters. As others have pointed out, ya’ll about women’s wrongs until a girl suffers a time loop to try to save the love of her life (who, lest we forget, begs Homura to shoot her in one timeline) and her friends and almost loses her mind by being the only person to remember the love of her life in the timeline that ya’ll think was the good one. I even hesitate to call it “toxic yuri” until the last movie comes out. Now, this isn’t to say that Homura has made no mistakes. I think the fact that her rewriting of the world to include the Kyubeys is going to be a BIG mistake on her part, and she did pull the identity of Madoka away from the Law of the Cycle against her wishes. But I think that to take everything Homura has done to try to save Madoka and even give Madoka the power to become the Law of the Cycle and say that she is irredeemable or toxic because she is traumatized…. It’s heartbreaking to me.
Moreover, this perception of Homura as irredeemable flies in the face of all this Christian imagery. Throughout the entirety of Rebellion’s ending (and as you’ll see further down) Madoka assures Homura that she loves her no matter what, that she is always there for her. Madoka in her fullness can see in intimate detail what Homura endured for her- literal YEARS of suffering yet never giving up- do you really think Goddess Madoka can’t and shouldn’t forgive Homura? Are the “good” guys in Christianity not all about forgiveness?
And finally, the real reason I made this long ass post: Homura and Rue from Princess Tutu are parallels. For those who don’t know: in Princess Tutu, the character Rue transforms into an “evil” persona- Princess Kraehe, daughter of the Crow. While Rue is convinced that she is now an agent of evil, the main character Ahiru/Duck insists that she is not. Also important to note is Rue may not rewrite the universe, but objectively commits more women’s wrongs than Homura. She rips the shards of emotion from her lover’s breast and tries to sacrifice innocent people’s hearts to her father, but the story does not paint her as condemned or irredeemable. She’s been lied to, groomed, and traumatized. She’s not an evil person, she’s a girl trying to navigate horrible circumstances, like Homura. Rebellion creates these parallels because Homura is forgivable and it wants you to know that.
So anyway, first parallel is the outfit. Demon Homura is SOOOOO inspired by Kraehe it HURTS:
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And finally, Rebellion went so hard to reference this scene:
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PLEASE put on sound they translate it differently but here she says "homura chan is homura chan"
so yeah if you stuck around thanks! love u muah
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madokakanamereal · 7 months
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My theory about the new movie
I think that there are two homuras, as we see in the subtle difference in eye and hair color-
One is the real Homura, tasked with managing her new world, and the other is the last Clair doll - Ai, the personification of 'Love'.
I think that Homura tasked her familiars with helping her manage her new labyrinth, and Ai was assigned the duty of keeping an eye on Madoka and protecting her and ensuring she doesnt return to the heavens.
However, I think Ai is rebelling against Homura because of the fact that Homura is denying herself her deepest wishes of being with- truly being with- Madoka, and so Ai will act on her own accoord and start to interact with Madoka more, gaining more of her love by posing as Homura and taking her place.
I think we will see a lot more religious trauma themes and themes of internalized lesbiphobia as Homura is forced to unpack and relearn why she thinks she is evil for loving Madoka and why she thinks she isn't allowed to for fear of dirtying her-
And I think somehow, the plot twist of the movie is going to be that this all somehow culminates in either Homura, a mix of Homura and Madoka, or the main girls being what eventually becomes Walpurgisnacht in a cycle that leads to the worlds creation once more.
That being said, I don't see any of this as being like 'THIS WILL HAPPEN, BECAUSE IM RIGHT-', this is just my little theory poking at straws from the few details we have been given :3
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mayarsh · 8 months
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What if that new girl from the new Walpurgis No Kaiten trailer is Madokami?
So, in Rebellion, Homura splits Madoka into two, separating her away from her goddess side.
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And to think of it, that new girl kinda looks like a fusion of Homura, Mami, and Madoka...
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What if Madokami tries to imitates her friends and reminds everyone about the fact that they're living in Homura's labyrinth? Or maybe she's trying to prevents Homura from succumbing into insanity??
I won't post the image here but maybe, in that scene where she jumped off a building, all the texts around her is her mind thoughts.
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tothepointofinsanity · 6 months
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Packet hero.
Song: Yume Nikki - MOTHER Area
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ghst001 · 8 months
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Bro seeing another post and some art about sayakas movie concept art got me rlly thinking about sealed sayaka (I thought this design was for aesthetic purposes) but it’s not
the white looking things hanging from her cape like curtains those are her freaking actually bones literally detached and dangling from her so she won’t fight back and I think her arms are detached and gone as well? and the mask on her face is for she can’t speak about homura’s new world
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cocoa-bird · 8 months
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hi its pretty hard to tell but i'm certain that madokas dress in the new walpurgis no kaiten poster is this same dress from the concept movie art, or close to it
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dreamerwitches · 8 months
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Tried my best to piece together the Clara dolls seen in the trailer
I'm starving for witch content, this is the best I can do
I'm confident on Usotsuki since she's so clear and Okubyou because she just has such a distinctive hairstyle but a lot of them are kinda shaky...
I'm 90% sure that's Reiketsu because of her hair flick but not at all confident with Wagamama. I thought because of her hair shape and hat but the zoomed in girl especially just kinda doesn't look like any of them?? She seems to have brown/red hair like Usotsuki but then none of the girls with that colour have a hairstyle like that. Warukuchi's hair doesn't match at all with both the style and fringe. I'd say it could be Manuke but she's already got one (and if that's not her the one for Ganko could also be her...)
I'm mildly confident with Noroma's since the hairstyle and colour match. I thought it was Manuke for a second before I realised she had an apple on her head.
Less confident on Yakimochi and Namake and I'm more going on the hair length and vague colours. Same with Mie, I'm mostly going on the centre parting she has but there may be sticky-out hair that could be Wagamama's... hm
Manuke is still a bit eh like I said before. I'm imagining the bit on her head as her bun but it could be an outstretched arm. I know they've got different outfits but the skirt kinda matches too. You can tell with Okubyou their new outfits are still kinda similar to their old ones so this might work if Manuke had a similar skirt shape.
The thing that tipped me on Ganko is the white spots on her hat. I thought it was Manuke but then I realised the bun could be her pompom. The cape matches too.
The girls certainly have a cat (or perhaps Kyubey... ) theme here as seen with a few cat ears and tails which is super adorable. Please give them lots and lots of screentime
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yuriswitch · 8 months
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can't stop thinking about the upcoming Madoka movie and how the trailer goes out of its way to imply a very specific tragic ending. On one hand I'm scared shitless, but on another there's something that just makes me doubt it'll simply go where the symbolism says it will. Not just because Madoka as a whole - and not just the Incubators - is deceptive at its core, but also because every other ending was a sudden flip of the situation at the center of the plot. In the original it's the miraculous rewrite of the universe saving Homura from despair, which was then recontextualized as a temporary and minor victory at best, given that Madoka has to sacrifice her mental health for the sake of everyone else's, forever, and the Incubators can always figure out what's going on and how to revert to the most profitable universe.
This meant that Homura had to do something, and once she realized that they'll keep trying to undo the changes even if she kills every single one of them in the barrier, she came up with a new plan and executed the first step of it by suddenly rewriting the universe again, so if this is anything to go by, as well as the marketing claiming that the movie is a "new beginning" rather than the final battle or something, the Incubators will manipulate everyone into fighting against each other and almost create a tragedy using Homura or Madoka's hands. Which will then be upturned again by another miraculous rewrite, yet again not really solving the issue, but not screwing things in the worst way forever either.
The reason why this makes more sense to me is likely because of the role the Incubators play as the general allegory of systemic issues that is supposed to be applied everywhere it fits, including our economic overlord - capitalism. So since the system they created is at the center of everything that happens in the story, it only makes sense that actually ending it would mean addressing that key issue in one way or another, which Kaiten isn't trying to do, as far as I can tell anyway.
Whether I'm right and how long it might take for the girls to unite and find the solution is still a mystery, but either way it certainly seems much more sensible than simply drowning the audience in a more extreme repeat of how Rebellion felt (rather than what it thematically was).
Ultimately, the crux of the issue lies in the difference between a sequence of events and a story, with the latter being everything that the structure, content and presentation of the former says about the topic at hand. It's about the conversation, not just the plot threads. This means, that since the original presented a problem of exploitation and oppression, the story won't truly be over until the origin, moral implications and solution to the aforementioned is found by the characters.
In Madoka, all of this centers around Kyuubey's powers, so regardless of the events themselves, the thematic conversation won't be complete without presenting some means of taking away the Incubators' ability to do their evil deeds, irreversibly and forever. This is, of course, my understanding, but it's not a given that I'm wrong.
So to wrap up, things don't look particularly well, but I guess there's no reason to give up all hope yet
/Kafuka
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aqours · 8 months
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