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I don’t know if this me sounding nitpicky but I really wish Vivziepop gave Pentious a more broader/sturdier figure.
Like, Viv is really trying to tell us that an inventor who lived and died in Victorian Era London and who likely built GIANT DEATH MACHINES, looks like copy and pasted Vivziepop twink #2683728373? I’m not buying it.
And to also add to the “making death machines” point, making machines in general, both back then and now, is extremely GRUELING and takes a ton of effort and strength to do. This art is a good example
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(Artist: GabendSelarom)
Despite this picture being a print more than anything else, this is a perfect example of what I think he should’ve looked like in the series proper. Pentious having a more broader figure makes sense to me because in both life and death, he’s likely spending HOURS making and forging all of his machinery.
This is all really, if you want to give your opinion, comment or reblog below.
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moistrodent · 1 day
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Octavia and Verosika did NOTHING wrong. Octavia has the right to not like her dad who ignored and neglected her in order for his one-sided affair. Verosika has the right to hate Blitzo (to quote my queen Veroska) maxed out her credit card on shitty horse riding lessons and left her to pay for the hotel. Octavia got called a COCK BLOCKING SLUT by one of the CREATORS OF HELLUVA BOSS! And Verosika constantly gets called a bitch, slut, or whore. I love Octavia and Verosika, they have done no wrong and I am taking them from Vivziepop.
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Also Verosika looks so good in the outfits the Helluva Boss team puts her in and I’m supposed to hate her? No fuck that I love her so much and she has probably one of the best or the best design out of all the Helluva Boss characters.
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Octavia also deserves a better dad. She’s also got an actually pretty cool design, she’s just a little silly who has also has a great voice actor!
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Also baby Octavia! She’s so cute :). I love her so much and she deserves so much more than Stolas. AND THEN SHE GETS CALLED A COCK BLOCKING SLUT. SHE’S FUCKING 17. Overall I love them, Octavia is just a little silly and Verosika is my queen.
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art-tea-chill · 2 days
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Sir Pentious redesign I've made. I love him and I hate how Vivziepop treated him in the series.
Design notes under the cut + rewrite
I gave him a broader/sturdier figure to fit his inventor persona more, more info on this post made on my main blog @autumnteawithfriends
Changed his pink to red, I thought it would make him look more intimidating
Made his outfit more Victorian Age accurate
Added more eyes (explained in the lore segment)
Honestly, I didn't want to change much because Sir Pentious to me has one of the better designs to me despite the flaws.
Now time for some rewrite lore
His real name was Sir Arthur Price when alive
He was born on December 1st 1853 and died in 1890, making him 37.
Class 3 Sinner, his sins were Wrath, Envy, and Pride
Is an inventor/machinist who had plans on advancing machines in a way nobody would see coming when alive, he was actively and maliciously jealous of anyone he deemed a rival.
He was not very well liked when alive, not at all. which did not help with his ambitions with wanting to advance the field of machinery.
Arthur went bankrupt one day due to lacking the funds to maintain his machines, meaning he had to marry an aristocrat for money.
He married Marielle Farfalle (OC) on December 13, 1879. Their marriage was neutral at first until Mari discovered his villainy and was ecstatic to learn this. After that, they started to genuinely fall in love.
Arthur snapped the day he tried to launch his first invention to the public. He showcased it only for the public to be interested in his rivals inventions.
He plotted to kill his rivals along with the help of his wife, while they succeeded in doing so. Both of them were ratted out by a house servant who discovered their plans.
Died by electric chair alongside his wife on November 20th 1890
Has hypnosis powers and a deadly poisonous bite, the poison from his bite can immobilize sinners depending on how much poison comes out of his fangs (The poison can last from a day to a few weeks)
I made him a mix between his pilot and show counterparts - A hammy, but dangerous and somewhat competent supervillain sinner who can be caring and affectionate to his loved ones (Mari and the Egg Boiz.)
He's a snake in Hell with tons of eyes because of two reasons. He hated snakes when alive, and he had scopophobia when alive because of the glares he received by bystanders and his rivals alike. Mari helped him grow out of it.
He speaks very fancifully to reference the Victorian age, he also doesn't swear too much aside from referring to Angel and Cherri as whores spitefully
He only keeps up with Technology and Music in Hell, he couldn't care about anything else.
The reason he's not in Purgatory is because he achieved one of his goals in life, which was getting rid of his rivals.
That's all, feel free to give your opinion on the redesign.
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theoddest1 · 1 day
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Hey guys, do you think this is a sensible reason to push back a QnA?
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tocomplainfriend · 4 months
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Hey, hear this!
I'm not black and don't know that much about voodou. There are lots of people ready to talk and explain their concerns about their representation in HH. Please hear them! (the amount of disrespect done by a bunch of non-black people upon the topic is disgusting!)
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The demonizing and villainizing of this religion has existed since the time of slavery. Using this symbols and closed religion to make a character more "edgy demon evil" is awful. This was Viv doing exactly. I do not believe Al was even supposed to be black/mixed until Viv got told about the use of the religion she was using. All of her main black characters have 0 features. They are just black to profit of "diversity" while she makes no effort to show it or be respectful.
To the people being like, "Aren't you also mad about her representing Christianity wrong???" Based on the fact of how she has talked about Christian people before... YES (I have a whole post about worrying it). But the point brought up is about a religion that's under discrimination based on racism and colonizer mindsets. About a problem that existed when slavery started. Viv is not making a critique or tribute of Voodou she is just using it to make Alastor seem "COOL AND EDGY".
I also do worry of the point she is trying to make about Christianity and believing in it. Specially cause that means her story about heaven and hell could be the blandest immature criticism someone could make. -and sell more people into the idea of "all believers of Christianity are bad people". Which I still hope, it doesn't happen directly in the show. Btw, I'm not Christian! I'm queer and have faced a lot of discrimination that a lot of people justified in their Christianism, I know the level of frustration people feel relating to that. But I have grown to realize, not every person that believes in God and Christ is a bad person. And that I don't get to throw all of those people under the umbrella of "bad" because of how I have been treated.
BTW, this person got blocked by Viv:
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ALSO, THIS IS STUPID!
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You are crazy to say this. They are many criticisms of Disney, specially this movie. You just didn't see it and decided to tweet this without even thinking of searching for this? Like, have you never heard of people complaining about how Tiana as the first black princess becoming a fucking frog for most of the movie.
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Dr. Facilier is a demonization of voodou! Also, Mama Odie is the "Good magic" but realize how she doesn't use the symbols or African masks. But only the bad magic, has it? Most of the representation of the religion is Facilier too, and it's wrongly represented.
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NAHHHH. GIRL
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littledemon55 · 1 month
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Justice for these characters! ✊
Justice for Sir Pentious, he deserved to be more than a funny gang r@pe joke and comedic death.
Justice for Vaggie, she deserves a name that isn’t tied to the female genitalia and should be more than an angry latino stereotype.
Justice for Millie, she deserves more character outside of being Moxxie's wife.
Justice for Stella, she was robbed of any depth she had to make Stolas seem innocent.
Justice for Blitz, he should cut contact with Stolas and be in a healthy relationship instead.
Justice for Octavia, she deserves an actual good father figure.
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Just a thing i noticed idk..
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fizzy0bloom · 1 month
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everytime some dickrider start to bitch about redesigns i want you to show them this
did she even try ??
credit : https://x.com/DorozDACL/status/1770193431257616586?s=20
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Does anyone feel like starting an unpopular HH opinion thread here?
To start this off, I prefer Sir Pentious in the pilot over the show. Don’t get me wrong, I still love him and he’s one of the few characters I actually like in this show. It’s just Pentious in the pilot for me is way more enjoyable to me, plus I loved Stumper as him. Not to mention I liked his “Hammy, but dangerous and somewhat competent supervillain” personality in the pilot over the show’s “silly harmless goofball” personality
Also feel free to list your criticisms you have of the show if you do, just don’t harass anyone.
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moistrodent · 3 days
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DUDE the lack of diversity in body types with vivziepop characters is actually impressive.
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What the actual fuck is this take????
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anglercrit · 3 months
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Since Ponett’s Hazbin review’s been gaining traction, I wanna highlight a part of it that really stuck with me:
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This right here. The fact the hotel is so underutilized is the most painful part of the show (that’s not related to its bigotry) to me. You’d expect the first season of this show to be about Charlie getting the hotel off the ground and having to deal with the shenanigans that come with all the different sinners coming to stay, but it just…never happens. It feels like it’d be such an easy way for Viv to get to show off tons of her designs and characters, but nothing…comes of it at all.
Season 1 should’ve ended with the hotel starting to become more popular, a real victory for Charlie and crew as tons of sinners are staying there or at least interested- you could even set up a tease for Heaven in Season 2 by maybe showing Adam and Lute being interested or concerned about the hotel’s potential success. But instead we get a five-month timeskip out of NOWHERE in the middle of the season and we’re already at heaven and Angel and Pent were the hotel’s only guests actually!
This show man…it’s just Frustrating tbh
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azural83 · 3 months
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Cherri was there for angel before he even met husk and I'm supposed to believe that she'd randomly turn into a bad influence? When angel is visibly upset?
They're ruining her just to make husk the voice of reason
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theoddest1 · 2 months
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Notice how Viv will bitch about a 15 year old fan being critical or a 18 or 19 year old critic who made a harmless meme, or be pissy about "My name is Caine, I am your bitch" but will stay DEAD. FUCKING. SILENT about someone in the fandom ending their own life thanks to the shitty people in her fanbase. So, in other words, people being "mean" to her is more worth her time than calling out those who pushed Shay into suicide.
Not surprising tbh. This is the same person who apparently thought karma was awesome when one of the people she had beef with (Dollcreep) was getting mass hate from her fans and was hospitalized for an attempt on their life just to get out of the massive attacks they were facing.
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So yeah...what a kind ass person....
Then there's Tracy
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Who actually addressed and tried to bring awareness to bullying in her community.
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tocomplainfriend · 5 months
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Vivziepop is still Transphobic 10 years later!
(I'm writing this as a trans non-binary person btw)
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Basically: "Transmen are only depressed females who are ashamed of being women" In other screenshots, she has another pfp, which people already knew she had a Blitz pfp, people thought it was fake cause of the moe pfp. But right here there was proved it was her. Dates match up and all. This is all in 2023!
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This is directly from Ken btw, who they were friends with- and worked on Hazbin. Also wrote a most of the fucking pilot and got ""additional writing" credits... plus the Cherry bomb thing too!
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"I honestly believe it's incredibly rare, VALID as hell, but rare"
Based on this few messages alone, you should realize her ""acceptance"" of trans-people is selective as fuck. She also NEEDED to state the trans people are rare, so bad here too. I as a trans person, I have always considered this a BIG red flag! Because people who say that are ready to invalidate others on the idea of "trans people are rare, you must not be trans because you don't fit my standard!"
Here she is using She/Her on Ken who uses only They/Them. She already knew Ken as a friend, so the misgendering here is just rotten.
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All of this is recent as fuck! Since Hazbin was getting made until 2023! This one below, of Salem, shows xe experienced the same thing during the start of Helluva Boss. (Below there is a link to a threat talking about Viv being terrible to xem!)
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Here also seems to be another trans character, from millie's siblings! Designed to be transmasc?
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Oh fuck me, never mind! They changed his design to be a cis male imp.
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I have already talked about how I personally feel about how Sallie may is treated! Viv treats all trans characters and people terrible, and she has something against transmasc people specially. -And for someone so selectively transphobic, with all of her comments-she is transphobic against Non-binary people! I mean, she already didn't respect the usage of them/they pronouns, so... She can not go around saying this shit of telling queer stories and people who critique me are being homophobic WHEN SHE IS LIKE THIS.
This is older, too! Viv has being transphobic back then and still is! Drawing a caricature of a transman you don't like -like this!?
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This is a meme video that Vivziepop did too. This is rotten. People sure can change, but this woman has being transphobic over 10 years, like... I don't know how old is this character but- you can search fan art of this character since 2015...
Again please read:
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habbohotei · 4 months
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they hated jesus bc he told them the truth
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