Take on the “benevolent forces” mentioned in Ep 13
I think they’re inextricably linked to Jon and Martin’s actions at the end of archives. Old-universe Gerry was *convinced* there are no non-fear entities and I don’t think the answer is simply “oh he was wrong.” I think the old universe really did just have the listed fear gods and nothing else. The new universe however, has benevolent forces because of Jon and Martin’s intervention to reverse the watcher’s crown.
I’m not suggesting every instance of the “benevolent forces” is directly controlled by them - I do think that they are mostly powerless as Chester and Norris. But that doesn’t mean they didn’t cause it inadvertently.
It’s giving real Pandora’s box vibes, Chester and Norris being the “hope” at the bottom of the OIAR’s “box” of evil.
As a side note, just as the entities of the old universe could blend together, I think the good and evil forces in this universe can blend or at least “corrupt”. This is why we get so many statements about people enjoying their contact with the supernatural, even if it seems fucked up to everyone else. As I suspected, the theories about “desire” being this universes new set of entities may not have been entirely wrong, just a much smaller piece of the puzzle than we first thought.
SAM: Uhhh, Alice? // ALICE: Yeah? // SAM: I think the text to speech AIs are in love with each other. // ALICE: Heh. Chester and Norris started flirting mid-paragraph again? // SAM: A-again? // ALICE: Ya, they do that when they get side-tracked by outside data. It's just a bug, wait it out. // SAM: Wha??
So. Norris! Buddy. Is there any particular reason you decided to read that particular file for everyone?
You know, the file about a man consumed by fear and guilt because he murdered the person he loved?
The file about a man who finds himself trapped in a walled garden, cut off from the outside world, with his murdered lover's voice forever whispering in whatever remains of his ears?
The file about a man who finds himself gradually losing his humanity as his new prison transforms him, slowly and painfully, into a part of itself?
The file about a man who finds that even as this transformation ultimately brings him serenity on the surface, even as he can no longer remember what he once was, "deep inside [him] beneath the roots there is something that still shakes with terror"?
Look, I'm just asking, here, but is there anything you'd like to say to the class, Norris?
waiting for the moment one of the text-to-speech voices says something directly to Sam and when he brings it up to the office nobody takes him seriously
Ok I have been workshopping this tmagp theory for a bit because I am very passionate about it and as time goes on I really feel like it could be viable.
Fredi is more important than we think. I mean yeah, you could probably guess that already. However, I think it is important because I think Fredi is pretending to be Chester, Norris, and Augustus. I think Fredi is like a thing that is wearing the remnants of these people. "But the email from Jon," Fredi could easily just pretend to be Jon and send an email, an internal email specifically. I don't think our jmart and Jonah are in the computer, I think the program knows them in some way and is using them as masks. Narratively, I think the fact it's Jon, Martin, and (probably) Jonah's voices is a bit of a red herring. Like it's a misdirection so you focus on "omg it's the blorbos!" and not even consider the thing powering the blorbos.
Think about it, it goes with everything that has been said about this show: It keeps jmart's fate ambiguous, it touches on the idea that this show is about what makes a human a human (Fredi trying to be a person by taking on the identities of real people, would that make it a person?), Fredi could just pull a Jonah voice from thin air or has some outer knowledge about it, it would explain why Fredi has a name (I feel like it having a name gives it some form of character), and it's way less sad than everyone getting sergei ushanka-ed.
This is a bit of a crack theory, it really has no firm evidence, but like it just makes so much sense to me lol.
my personal headcanon about the voices in the computer is that they're voices stolen from the casettes. they're not the actual jon and martin. the reason why it's just jon and martin (and another so far unconfirmed voice who i suspect to be jonah) is because there was enough of their voices on the casettes to create an essence of them within this old tech. the real jon and martin are still lost, maybe Somewhere Else, maybe dead, maybe alive