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buddiesmutslut · 2 months
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BUCK IS THE BEST PERSON TO GIVE DATING ADVICE TO CHRIS, HEAR ME OUT.
Okay, I know we're all laughing about women fleeing Buck and how awful he is at relationships, but I don't feel like that's true.
First of all, just because a relationship ends, doesn't mean that it FAILED. Dating is as much about getting to know YOURSELF, what you want out of a relationship and what your own boundaries are as it is about getting to know the person you're dating. It's about growing, and learning from your mistakes, and I feel like Buck HAS done that. I'm not saying he's a perfect dater (the Taylor/Lucy thing, wtf was that?) but also, he has gotten better.
With Abby, he grew from fuckboy Firehose to someone that is considerate and thoughtful to his partner. (I don't LOVE that we credit Abby for his growth, since he was the one that made the initial boundary to not meet up right away because he didn't want to fall back into that sleep with anything that moves mindset, but she is mostly credited with it canonically, so we're going to use it.) Also, she didn't leave because Buck was a bad boyfriend or anything. She left because she needed to find herself after her mom died, and that's it.
With Ali too, she left because of his job, because she couldn't handle being with a first responder, which is a genuine concern for a LOT of people. It's hard to love someone with a dangerous job like that, and not know if they're going to come home at night. It had nothing to do with who Buck was as a boyfriend.
With Taylor, that whole relationship was a mess, IMO, them getting together when they did was a recipe for disaster. Obviously, Buck shouldn't have asked her to move in because he was scared to tell her about Lucy, but I'm not saying he's a PERFECT dater, I'm saying he's learning, and that's what's important. When he did admit to the kiss, Taylor is the one that decided that it wasn't a hard line for her, or she would have broken up with him, living together or not. It probably would have been awkward and complicated, but it was all of those things when they DID break up later in the series. From this relationship, Buck learned that it's better to be alone than it is to be with someone for the wrong reasons.
He has had a lot of growth from s1 to the end of s6, and that is clear in his dating.
Now, everyone that's saying Eddie should go to Bobby or Chim for advice, I'm going to say this: It's easy to date when you immediately find the person you're going to marry.
Let me be clear, I'm not saying that Madney & Bathena don't have their own struggles within their relationships, but Bobby and Chim got pretty luck, they found women that they clicked with and then eventually fell in love with almost as soon as they went looking.
When Bobby decided he was ready to move on from Marcy, the ONLY person we actually see him dating in the show is Athena, and they end up married.
After Tatiana leaves Chim, and he decides that he's going to be himself and look for a genuine connection, Maddie is conveniently placed in front of him.
I'm not saying that either of them are bad daters, or bad partners or anything, but we don't really SEE them date. Maybe it's because they're older and they already know what they're looking for and what they can and can't accept in a relationship, but realistically, it's wild to think that you're going to fall in love and get married to the first person that you find when you start dating. The majority of people have to date around and actually look to find the person they're meant to be with, not magically find them right out of the gate.
Especially for a FIRST first date, it's all about figuring out how dating works, what is and isn't expected and acceptable and navigating getting to know a new person, as well as yourself, and I think Buck is the clear best option when it comes to experience about women. He's had several girlfriends and also convinced only God knows how many people to sleep with him, so he's obviously charming, and pleasant to spend time within a romantic situation.
Also, God knows nobody is asking Eddie for dating advice, since the man only married his girlfriend bc she was pregnant and then had to be told (BY BUCK) that he deserved to be happy in a relationship instead of sticking it out for everyone else.
Anyway, this has been on my mind ever since that interview came out with everyone making fun of Eddie for going to Buck because he's had (based on what we're reading about Natalia's character) 4 "failed" relationships, but again, I truly believe that a relationship ending does not automatically mean it failed.
Also, Eddie goes to Buck because they're CO-PARENTS & SOULMATES but all of this other stuff too 😂
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wh0re-behavi0r · 2 years
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Hello. I have been seeing so many posts about how the Will™ had the opposite impact on Buck and Eddie's relationship than we were expecting and how it aided in the distance between them this season and now my thoughts are filled with thinking about why it did. this post, this post and this post basically say it all.
So I've just been looking at the progression of their relationship with each other, how they are best friends but many of the boundaries are blurred and have basically been since the beginning. (Best friends is kind of a word that can be used in conjunction with your relationship to someone who means more as well, but in this case the original intent was for them to be platonic best friends. )
In my mind, the will is kind of a boundary. In one sense because they aren't talking about it so it's leaving space between them physically, but also because I think it defines their relationship in a way they never have before.
In our minds and probably in Eddie's mind telling Buck about the will was a good thing. It served the purpose of letting Buck know that he's worth something, that he's not expendable, but I feel like this post illustrates where things kind of go wrong.
It's kind of like all the stuff (see under the cut) that they did before was allowed because no one was stating what each of their places were in each other lives beyond "best friend" though those boundaries were pushed. (Buck refers to Eddie as his best friend during the tsunami arc and Chris refers to Buck as a good friend in s4).
Now that Eddie has defined Buck's place in Chris' life as a "backup plan" (in Buck's mind) and in turn changing the view of their partnership, things are off.
The will sort of implies that Eddie wants/views Buck as a partner and the best thing for Chris, but ig if you have been working under the assumption that your relationship is supposed to be platonic then it just looks like you're the godfather and therefore not seen as a romantic partner or a parent even if you feel like it.
Under the cut is just me discussing how their relationship has not really had any "best friend" boundaries and referencing posts and moments that align with that.
Since season 2, Buck has stepped into a role where he helps Eddie (introducing him to Carla, driving him to see Chris after the earthquake, informing bobby that Chris is coming to the station, etc. there's a gifset I just can't find it) and shows up for him in a way that a great friend should. They are very close even though they just met and they had a rocky start (Buck going with Eddie and Chris to go see Santa).
In season 3, their relationship pushes past platonic. After Buck can't go back to work, Eddie forces him to get out of his bubble of depression by hanging out with Chris "he's hanging out with his Buck today" (when will I not cry over that). (There's a parallel of Chris and Buck/Chris and Shannon in here too). Then Buck jumps back in the water (an acting decision meant to replicate what a parent would do for their kid) to find Chris, he searches all day and ignores his injuries. This all leads to "there's no one in this world I trust with my son more than you". The tsunami arc is when Buck says that they're best friends but this and the lawsuit made it very clear that it's not only that. Eddie, although mad at Buck and using Chris as a proxy, tells Buck about how the lawsuit is affecting Chris.
In what world of best friends is that Buck's business? Of course, cutting off contact without warning isn't something anyone should do, especially to their closest friends but Chris is in no way Buck's responsibility. Buck doesn't even have a problem with that though, instead he wants to arrange a way to see him.
And it doesn't stop there, there's Buck freaking out about Chris going to summer camp, the Kitchen Scene and them playing video games together, and Chris asking to spend Christmas with Buck because he can't spend it with his dad, then Buck and Athena arranging a way so they can spend Christmas together. All of this is family unit behavior!
Season 4 has Chris asking Buck to play video games at his house and a parenting moment between Buck and Chris when Chris runs away to Buck. There's Eddie getting a girlfriend which Buck and Chris have a problem with and the whole home and detour metaphor (4x08 and 5x02 I'm looking at you and you), and Buck rushing to get into a relationship as well. A lot of people were discouraged by this season about Buddie, but I feel like this season highlighted how they made each other the most important person in their lives besides Chris and they can't address that. That was the beginning of things being off between them and s5 is emphasizing that.
I forgot to mention how touchy they've always been but y'all know that already.
The season finale was the biggest moment for them and it's lingering over them now in season 5. Buck saving Eddie's life, Eddie asking are you hurt, Buck taking care of Christopher, and the Will scene were all incredible moments.
Season 5 gave us Chris and Buck and the zoo, Eddie realizing he doesn't want a traditional family (breaking his comphet thinking) (the ready-made family is another negative line for Buck), and a triggering hostage situation with Buck thinking Eddie got shot again (and the balcony scene). There is "did he get to see his kid", and now there's Eddie needing help and Buck not being sure how exactly to show up.
If they were to carry on like before, it would require them to face what The Will really means and what the shooting meant for their relationship (even the hostage situation and Buck not getting to see Chris after all of that) . Those topic can not be broached without them realizing that their relationship being defined as just best friends feel off because they are more than that to each other.
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